Well Tournaments

[shaney]

So building a tournament looks sounds good and easy but it isnt you must build and design a kind of qualifying like jdcseason the rankings 1 to 30 join the tournament and then we will see who will win it sounds great it may look great but is not

[Stijn]

...okay.

[blurredd]

I like how that post has no punctuation whatsoever.

[Radium]

Mkay.

[Violet CLM]

So if you don't like the idea, why did you bother posting it?

[Risp_old]

Let's have a well tournament! Which well do <u>you</u> think will win?

[Radium]

I like the one with the wooden bucket.

[Strato]

Steel bucket all the way.

[Fawriel]

Haven't you listened to him? We're supposed to play inside the wells!
Or we have four seperate wells that collect points. Like in Harry Potter.

[Blackraptor]

FAW! ME VS YOU! DUEL IN WELL! NOW!
WE SHALL SOON SEE WHO IS THE WELLMASTER CHAMPION! >D

[blurredd]

I think I'll officially start this "Well Tournament" since everyone seems so interested in it. All we need to do is establish official rules.

[Tik]

Rule #1
No correct English grammar or punctuation is ever to be used.

[Fawriel]

YOU CANNOT DEFEAT ME! FOR I HAFF THE HEART OF THE WELL!
"Trust the well."
YEAH!

[Strato]

Rule #2
The ground is lava and you can't call it because I said so.

[blurredd]

I decided for no apparent reason to make a Well Tournament. I made a Well Level to go with the Well Tournament. Four players participated. The results:

1st Place: CanadianDR
2nd Place: Strato
3rd Place: Labratkid TF
DQ'd from idling: Blacky[Si]

CanadianDR gets to see new stuff. Congratulations.

[blurredd]

I made a second Well Tournament with a slightly improved level. It went pretty well IMO. The participants:

Dizzy DM
CanadianDR
blur[si]
Strato
Blacky[Si]
FireSworD DM
EvilMike DM
ThO_Odin314

The results:

1st Place: Dizzy DM
2nd Place: EvilMike DM
3rd Place: blur[si]
4th Place: FireSworD DM

Everyone else got knocked out in the first round. Dizzy wins the prize. Watch out for more spontaneous Well Tournaments in the near future.

[FireSworD]

'Twas Very fun.

Bob simply won't win next time. =P

[Lark]

I just realized that he meant 'good tournaments,' and 'well' as in 'good.' =P

[Blackraptor]

uhh...not really, no.
Well as in well, the stuff where you get water from.

[blurredd]

LRK was probably referring to Shaney's original post. But anyway, I hosted the third WT today with the most players yet. This 16 player tourney didn't go nearly as well as the other Well Tournaments, but it shows that it is possible and it can work with a bit of tweaking. In the latest version of the WT level, I added a spectating area, which meant a lot of bomb scenary, which resulted in the powerups not showing up--at least this is what I think. I'll be sure to fix all the problems I found for the next tournament I host spontaneously.

The participants:

FireSworD DM
R3ptile TF
AvKCC
Enigma TF
CanadianÐR
Pyromanus GpW
Blacky[Si]
Strato
dalspots
CYRO
Thunder TF
Satan [si]
SuperJazz GpW
the WINNER
Skull[TF]
CCDarkSonicXSD

The Results:

1st Place: FireSworD DM
2nd Place: the WINNER
3rd Place: Strato
4th Place: dalspots

And that's the tournament. FS wins free BlurredD merchandise. I'll considering giving 2nd and 3rd place something for the next 16 player tournament if it goes well.

[Iam Canadian]

Yeah, we had some problems in that one. I pwned Pyro badly in round 1, but lost to Strato in round 2.

[Strato]

'twas interesting none the less for the disadvantaged ones power up wise. Regardless it was fun all around. gg Canadian.

I really enjoyed the WINNER vrs. Skull pre round match up.

[Enigma]

Haha, indeed Strato. It was a bad idea of Blur to let those two fight against each other.

Maybe you should take the power ups out Blur. Or at least make a bigger waiting room. If people don't have room to move while they're waiting, they'll get nervous (not to say stupid) and probably start pushing each other into the arena.

<s>*glares at FS for using power ups in our matchup while I had none*</s> :D

Oh, and I still think dalspots should've won this.

[blurredd]

I've already made two versions of the WT level: one has powerups, carrots, and no spectating room, while the other has a spectating room with no powerups or carrots. I'll be hosting the latter for the next tourney to see how it plays.

[Fawriel]

*waves a Dal flag*

[blurredd]

This Well Tournament was a little... different. It didn't go exactly as planned so I improvised.

The Participants:

Salamander DM
Strato
Blacky[Si]
CanadianÐR
GenEx


The Results:

1st Place: Strato
2nd Place: Blacky[Si]
3rd Place: CanadianÐR
4th Place: Salamander DM

The thing with GenEx is he went idle when it was his turn, so I decided to keep the tournament going without him, hoping that a few others would join. Turns out it was just the six of us. So the tourney went on, the four others players were placed, and then I decided to do something new: let 2nd and 3rd place get a chance to win a prize. What I planned was 2nd place had to beat me once and 3rd place had to beat me two out of three times. BR beat me, then I beat Canadian. I owed BR a prize, but next came my idea of double or nothing. BR accepted the challenge. I ended up beating him the second time around so Blacky ended up with nothing. I offered the same double or nothing proposal to Strato, he accepted, and he lost as well. But this time it was close--very close. I killed Strato while I fell down the well the last time with one heart left. I decided to be nice and let him keep the one level he earned. Then there was GenEx. I remembered that I didn't give him a chance to play in the WT, so I decided to give him one chance to win a prize if he could beat me. GenEx didn't win, which meant Strato was the only person to walk away with the prize he earned. And so that's how the tournament went. Most likely I'll let 2nd and 3rd get a chance to win something again next time, as well as the double or nothing thing. BTW, this version of WT had no powerups or carrots. I liked it after I got used to it. Feel free to voice your opinion.

[Risp_old]

I wish I could have seen the well tournaments ;(

[Nielsje]

Blur, can you make a list of times when you hold a Well Tournament? More players will be able to join that way, because we all like yer goodies :p

[blurredd]

I could, but that would ruin the spontaneity. Plus I don't know when the next time WT will be hosted myself. But I am trying to diversify the players who play in the tourney, so you'll get your chance sooner or later.

[blurredd]

Aside from some of the last players that joined my server not being able to play in the tourney, I think this Well Tournament wasn't bad at all. In this version of WT, there were powerups and a spectating room. I forgot to add two +1 carrots in the arena, but I'll make sure I'll do that for the next tourney.

The Participants:

Enigma TF
dalspots
ChippieCCXSD
the WINNER
R3ptile TF
sNooZe XSD
CelL FoR
AvK CC

The Results:

1st Place: Enigma TF
2nd Place: R3ptile TF
3rd Place: CelL FoR
4th Place: the WINNER

As for the Bonus Round, as I'm now calling it, CelL won once but lost twice, and Reptile lost both tries, so second and third place did't get a prize. Enigma refused the Double or Nothing, therefore he just keeps his prize.

Also, since Reptile didn't know beforehand that second place doesn't automatically win a prize in an 8 player WT, I will list how the prizes work for each type of tournament.

4 player WT:
• Only 1st place wins a prize.

8 player WT:
• 1st place wins a prize.
• 2nd place must beat the server 1 out of 2 tries to win a prize.
• 3rd place must beat the server 2 out of 3 tries to win a prize.
• Double or Nothing for anyone who wins a prize.

16 player WT:
• 1st place wins 3 prizes.
• 2nd place wins 2 prizes.
• 3rd place wins 1 prize.

32 player WT:
• Tentative, but you can imagine there will be a lot of prizes.

So now it's official. If anyone can give me a good enough reason to change these standards, then I'll make some amendments. Next Well Tournament will be for 16 players, so if I host a server and not enough players join, I won't have a WT on that day.

[R3ptile]

What are the prizes?

[blurredd]

The prizes are mostly free previews of my secret never-before-publicly-hosted levels which I hold in high regard. One of the prizes could be a free preview of my latest tileset, although that would be pretty lame.

[Risp_old]

Why? The tileset is lame?

[blurredd]

It's not the tileset. It's just that I let three people see the set when they asked on #JCStalk.

[R3ptile]

The prizes are mostly free previews of my secret never-before-publicly-hosted levels which I hold in high regard. One of the prizes could be a free preview of my latest tileset, although that would be pretty lame.
If they are secrets so they're probaly bad.

[blurredd]

Nice reasoning. Actually, I tend to host old levels that I think are second rate, like Backwash and Air Base VII, and on occasion a few new levels right after I make them, such as Anarchy Inn and Roastathon JTF, just to see how people react. But I prefer testing out levels I think may be good with JDC events since a lot players will be forced to play to win. Most of the unhosted levels I have left are decent in my opinion.

[blurredd]

This was the first 16 player Well Tournament that actually wasn't too bad. The only thing that could be considered a problem was the two forfeits with Kakashi and CelL I had to make to keep the tournament going, but other than that, everything went alright.

The Participants:

Snooze XSD
SkulL TF
R3ptile XSD
DizZy DM
Dalspots
CelL FoR
the WINNER
Sabaspaz
AvK
FireSworD DM
Green Plant
EvilSpaz
ironlightTF
DarkSonicXSD
Kakashi[GpW]
Gummi[GpW]

The Results:

1st Place: FireSworD DM
2nd Place: Snooze XSD
3rd Place: DarkSonicXSD
4th Place: the WINNER

First place gets three prizes; second place, two; and third place, one prize. They can choose from the nine prizes I've listed.

The Prizes:

1.) Secret CTF Level #1
2.) Secret CTF Level #2
3.) Secret SP Level #1
4.) Secret SP Level #2
5.) Secret Concept Level #1
6.) Secret Concept Level #2
7.) Secret Unfinished Level
8.) Secret Secret Level
9.) Super Secret Secret Secret (Worth 3 prizes)

I intend to do something extra different for the next tourney, so watch out for the next spontaneous WT.

[blurredd]

In this WT (version 3), I changed the rules so that players win by pushing their opponent out of the well twice. Any player who is roasted gets his or her extra life back, which is with a coin in this level. The level didn't play exactly how I wanted it to, but it wasn't a big deal. I pretty much enjoyed this version.

The Participants:

AvK DM
FireSworD DM
Green Plant
Sciz CT [si]
Blacky[si]
Silly Knight
RAGNAROK DR
ThO_Odin314

The Results:

1st Place: Blacky[si]
2nd Place: FireSworD DM
3rd Place: RAGNAROK DR
4th Place: Green Plant

In the Bonus Round, FireSworD and Ragnarok lost in all of their tries, so no prize for them. Blacky[si] avoided the Double or Nothing challenge, so he keeps the one prize he won. So that's the Well Tournament. I can't guarantee something new for the next WT.

[$n00z]

Im sad, because i missed WT7. well, ill hope there will be more WT's. they rock.

[Keleet]

Silly Knight?! }> lmfao.

[blurredd]

The Results (http://www.jazz2online.com/d3/wt/wt8.htm)

This Well Tournament could've gone better, but it was alright for a 16 player tourney. This was the first WT for JDC points in the soon-to-be weekly Tournament Tuesday. Next week there may be two servers for a Euro and a North American tournament; I'll see what I can do. In addition, I'll probably be cruel and make it so that only 8 players can join a single tournament since that will be a lot easier to manage. The event could last as long as an hour, so make sure you'll be able to stay the whole time if you join.

[Strato]

v3 can be easily cheated on. Very very easily.

[blurredd]

It would be noticeable though, and then I'd have to kick someone out of the tournament.

[blurredd]

The Results (http://www.jazz2online.com/d3/wt/wt9.htm)

This tournament went a little better than last week's, which probably had something to do with a better WT level. Congrats to FireSworD for winning WT9. For the next tournament, I might arrange matchups between players by rank or something like that.

[FireSworD]

This WT was very intense, well at least for me anyways. I got the scariest players during the whole tournament :P

[R3ptile]

FS, you won't beat me next time! >(

[blurredd]

The Results (http://www.jazz2online.com/d3/wt/wt10.htm)

For this tournament I used WTv3, which is my favorite version mainly because people can't really complain about lag or 5hks or whatnot. I enjoyed the tournament even though I didn't actually get to play in it. And for those who were wondering, I didn't implement the matchups according to Player Quality since that would've been a mess to set up with people leaving and joining. I might do use it if there's ever an 8 player tournament, though.

[Blackraptor]

Yay! I overslept the WT! Again!

[shaney]

i never knew WT would be such a great concept it is cool really

[Anakin[CC]]

Well tournaments are cool ;D
O and btw Shaney, i give the jcf admins 2 days most and then they will have edited your signature since its way to big :--------P

[Tubz]

I still don't get what a 'Well' tournament is..

[blurredd]

No one can be told what the Well Tournament is... you have to see it for yourself.

[Tubz]

^^^

Is there a website for this thing or something?

[blurredd]

Actually, there is (http://www.jazz2online.com/d3/wt), but it was made primarily for JDC.

[Tubz]

It sounds cool, now how can I participate in the next Well Tourney?

[Violet CLM]

Step 1: Be in JDC.
Step 2: Join a Well Tournament server when it comes up.