FSP: Rent Collection

[Violet CLM]

http://www.tachyonlabs.com/sam/FSP.png
Coming in about a week. Probably.

[Radium]

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was about Jazz music.

[Blackraptor]

Yay monkeys

[Iam Canadian]

Uh.....oooooh?

[Black Ninja]

It's good to see people all excited about this big thing finally being in the state of nearly being prepared to almost be ready to come out.

[Ðx]

Cant wait for it.

[cooba]

"Seriously, this isn't all that impressive pack as someone might think, we're just having fun with putting Fooruman and such." ~Violet

[Fawriel]

I like the bottom left screeny.

[Blackraptor]

I get to betatest =D.

[Spotty]

Looks interesting ...I forgot these even existed for awhile

[Tubz]

Remix to Hocus Pocus tileset? Or a new level pack?

[Violet CLM]

"Seriously, this isn't all that impressive pack as someone might think, we're just having fun with putting Fooruman and such." ~Violet
Cooba must hush. ;( my grammar is not that bad.

[cooba]

I got that quote wrong. =(

BTW I tested it and I found ONE BUG =DD

[Ðx]

I hope it will be better then Hocus Pocus episode one?

[Blackraptor]

As a tester of FSP, I can tell you to expect levels which are well designed, contain generally well done eyecandy, and are fun enough to keep you hooked to them. Personally, I preferred playing FSP over Time Tripping, plus FSP uses DIFFICULTY =D. FSP also has a relatively simple story, and a bunch of original and new stuff.



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[Violet CLM]

Final Update!

FSP is all but complete. It is undergoing "final testing" (for lack of a better name), and will probably be uploaded soon after we figure out how to get 2.54 MB under the J2O filesize limit. Release date is today, if you didn't guess.

[Odin]

awesome. But I just had an idea:

What about a .rar inside a .zip?

[Blackraptor]

Tried that, odin. Doesnt work that well.


Edit: Plus .RAR's arent allowed on j2o last time I checked.

[Odin]

Tried that, odin. Doesnt work that well.


Edit: Plus .RAR's arent allowed on j2o last time I checked.

1. The rar would be inside the zip.

2. See my post in the WinRAR thread in Misc.

[Risp_old]

Host it somewhere else and just provide a link on J2O instead of the actual file? Split it into two seperate uploads?

[Odin]

If the download is under 4 megs, i'll host it on my webspace. :)

[Blackraptor]

1. The rar would be inside the zip.

2. See my post in the WinRAR thread in Misc.

You're probably just thinking its compressed due to that, are you sure you're just not forgetting to take in account that a .RAR compresses better then a zip, so if you have a zip with a file, and a rar with a file that you put into a zip, the rar-zip will obviously be smaller because of the .rar? I could be wrong, but I haven't found any proof that this works.

[Violet CLM]

It's out! (http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=3482)

[Black Ninja]

Hoorah, it's finally out. Now it's time for me to test it again and find all kinds of bugs that magically appeared after the release.

Have fun, people.

[Iam Canadian]

Looks like fun. Now if I could only find time to play it, we might get somewhere.

[LittleFreak]

I played through the first levels, it's amazing what I've seen so far. I got stuck at the fight with Black Ninja though. :(

[cooba]

I got stuck at the fight with Black Ninja though. :(You don't fight Black Ninja. You must smash the crate so his "weird hackingness" will be gone. ;p

[LittleFreak]

@ Cooba: I already know what to do, the problem is that I always get killed by either the bats or Black Ninja running around.

[White Rabbit]

Posted my review at J2o.

PHT2, try completing Rent Collection on easy or medium first. There are only bats on easy and medium so all you have to do is dodge Black Ninja and kill bats by firing up. Timing is critical but it's a very systematic process so once you got the hang of it you can easily get Black Ninja's silver coin.

I want to know how to defeat Fooruman. He's the one that's truly hard. :p

[cooba]

I want to know how to defeat Fooruman. He's the one that's truly hard. :pShoot him. A crate will fall, and he will die. ;p

[Black Ninja]

Indeed, Fooruman is difficult. The way I go about defeating him is this:

Stand on the ground and get hit by spikes. That takes off one heart. Let the tube turtles fall. That takes off one heart. Immediately after they hit you, jump up and grab a cheshire cat on the side they fell on. As soon as you start falling, get yourself over to the other side of Fooruman. Rinse and repeat.

It works for me.

[Violet CLM]

Here is my main strategy. I don't think it works on hard, but it does work on the other difficulties.

There are six cats. 123 on the left, 456 on the right.

Wait until Fooruman unleashes some tube turtles. Let's say he does it on the left. Grab cat 1, go up to the top, shoot. Fall down. Cat 3. When you are just below Fooruman's blue platform, jump off and grab cat 4. Shoot Fooruman. Cat 6. Shoot Fooruman. Cat 5. Cat 4 as soon as it respawns. Up to the blue platform, cat 3. Shoot Fooruman. Cat 1. Shoot Fooruman. Cat 2. Cat 3 when it respawns. Up to the blue platform, cat 4. Repeat.
This doesn't always work, and can be very easy to mess up, but it's what I use. Plenty of room for discovering other patterns, of course.

[White Rabbit]

Both of your strategies seem very complicated and I haven't been able to pull them off, at least not with ease. I'll keep trying though, so thanks for your advice.

My way: type jjammo and spam TNT around the annoying wizard. :p

[Black Ninja]

Both of your strategies seem very complicated and I haven't been able to pull them off, at least not with ease. I'll keep trying though, so thanks for your advice.

My way: type jjammo and spam TNT around the annoying wizard. :p
White Rabbit, I must admit that that's the strategy I used when I played him on hard mode ;p

[White Rabbit]

Wait, wait, I see ppl rating the lvl pack 9.6 and 9.9 while I'm stuck with 9.2, 9.5 and 9.7! How did they do it?! :(

[Blackraptor]

@WR: Textbox review

@Fooruman: I just jumped side to side on the cats avoiding falling turtles. When I screwed up in balance (didnt have enough time to jump/whatever) I'd go to the cats on the very far left/right because tube turtles dont fall there, and you could still hit the block where fooruman is.

[Violet CLM]

If you edit your profile, you'll see a number of ways you can rate levels. "Textbox" allows fancy ratings like 9.9 or 3.4.

[Risp_old]

I found Fooruman was the easiest. I had no trouble with him once I realized that I was suppost to shoot him and not that little wall next to him.

[White Rabbit]

Rent Collection is now at the top of the single player lvl list. It beats RHG (in terms of ratings only because RHG is all the way over at Multiple), Tomb Rabbit, the Lost World and Time Tripping. IMO, the only lvl pack not better than Rent Collection is the Lost World.

[Violet CLM]

Maybe I'm reading your post wrong, but it looks like you're saying that the only pack worse than Rent Collection is Lost World? That's not a good thing, right?

[White Rabbit]

I'm saying that Rent Collection is good, but not better than the lvl packs I mentioned, despite Rent Collection's higher average rating. If Rent Collection deserves a 9.6, then RHG and Tomb Rabbit would deserve 9.7s or 9.8s.

I claim and eat page 2.

[Iam Canadian]

I've started it, and I'm up to the Black Ninja battle. I'm being macho, so I'm on Hard. Ironically, Black Ninja is the least of my worries in that battle. Stupid Fencers.

[DoubleGJ]

I reached Black Ninja's castle and my save got corrupt. I played again and reached that monk level - save corrupt again. This is annoying.

[White Rabbit]

Yes Jazz! That happened with me too! Argh! %#%#$$&$@@#7*********%3...

[Violet CLM]

Huh. Well, that went unnoticed - I guess none of the design/testing team bother with saving. I know the only times I ever save are if I'm in the middle of RHG or something and have to leave.

[cooba]

I guess none of the design/testing team bother with saving.It happened to me just after the final release and I forgot to tell about it. dsadsadsdsdf ;p

[LittleFreak]

Maybe I'm reading your post wrong, but it looks like you're saying that the only pack worse than Rent Collection is Lost World? That's not a good thing, right?

ROFL! :lol:

You're right! :D lol

I guess he meant that lwe is the only one BETTER than Rent Collection. ;)

In my opinion Tomb Rabbit is an unbeatable masterpiece, while I don't like Lost World that much. It's cool of course, but I dislike the difficulty level and the length of lvls.

[cooba]

And what it has to do with FSP?

[White Rabbit]

Actually Violet was right, PHT2. TR and RHG is better than FSP. TT is also slightly better than FSP. LWE is not. LWE is the only one worse than FSP. I.e. FSP is overrated.

[Violet CLM]

You know, after a certain point, it's not so much "I hope it's better than this or that other upload" and more "wow, that is a really high rating".

[LittleFreak]

I don't really care if it's better than other stuff or not, I just like it. However, I died in Fooruman's Hologram Machine and because I'm playing with only 1 continue (makes the game a lot harder) I lost. :(
However, great pack!
I had the saving error in Black Ninja's castle too, but I could save in Mellenwah. :-I

[Blobby]

It looks cool, I'll probably download it.

[LittleFreak]

It looks cool, I'll probably download it.

Does that mean you DIDN'T ALREADY? :O

[cooba]

Yeah, he didn't. What's wrong with that?

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

Yes, she didn't. What's right with that?

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[cooba]

Yes, she didn't. What's right with that?Now THAT is spam.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

Now THAT is spam.

What? It's just a correction!

[cooba]

Wrongly made one, too.

Now, if possible, discuss FSP here.

[LittleFreak]

Hmm... he might not be that much of a SP-fan as I am. :)

@ Bjarni/Blaziken/Who-orWhatever: I don't really understand your correction. :-I

[White Rabbit]

FSP is still on top of the SP "chart". :p Maybe we should take into account the number of DLs when judging lvl packs, not just their ratings? It doesn't matter if something is rated better than everything else because it has only 1/5 of their total DL count. :p

[Violet CLM]

Kejero already does, for obvious reasons. Of course, counting downloads is not a totally fair estimate, either, as some packs have been available for longer then other packs, and people have left JJ2 since certain other uploads with higher download counts.

[LittleFreak]

I agree to what Violet says. It would be a bit unfair. However, I also feel FSP is a bit overrated. It's really great work, and I liked playing it, but a 9.6 is a bit too much for it I think. I would've given it a 9.2, but I'm too lazy to review. (THAT'S A RHIME! YAIH! 8D )