This really is getting pathetic.

[Nimrod]

http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=11950

I mean, what the hell??? What is wrong with that image?

If its about the second comment that begins with a W and ends in a F, jesus christ stop being so pathetic.

And please stop with the "ITS THERE FORUM ITS THERE RIGHT!". This is a forum questions & feedback section and this is my question/feedback to them.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

This ISN'T feedback that's why!

[Tubz]

You know the rules man, the only offensive thing you can seem to get away with on here is at most a non-explicit religion joke or a picture like a dopefish and the towers from 9/11. And that is much worse, imo, then your picture. I agree with you, if I ran the forums, it would not have been edited by me. But I don't run the forums...

Masta, It's not Feedback but It's the first part, Forum Questions.

[LittleFreak]

I also don't really understand what's wrong with it. I like it though. :)

@ Blaziken: The forum is called "Site and Forum Questions & Feedback". That means, members can post feedback ASWELL as questions about the forums or the site, and I think Nim's question is also a bit about the forums, as the admins and mods belong to it.

[FQuist]

What exactly is the problem with an image being replaced with a link..? It's still accessible fine. And what exactly is weird about that since the image contained a word otherwise filtered at the JCF? That word has been filtered for a long time. Nothing changed, why was it not pathetic and is it suddenly pathetic?

If you want the image to display directly you can always edit it to contain another acronym that doesn't contain a swear word.

[Nimrod]

Because I never noticed the word was ever filtered, and now I do, I wish to comment on it and I do believe this has gone from protecting younger users, to something even more pathetic.

[FQuist]

Well, that's another discussion then. Why do you think it's pathetic? It's meant for making the board all-ages.

I do not see why we should not allow the use of the f word but at the same time allow people to say the word anyways by using it in an acronym the majority of the people here know to be meaning "what the (-)".

[MaGoo]

Meh, if you're desperate to use potentially offensive acronyms just be like "(-)"

Derby: Filter bypass removal. The filter was bypassed.

[Nimrod]

go to the url below, but remove the spacing at the end (The Stupid JCF Filter even blocks legit URL's, way to go JCF admins)

http://tinyurl.com/6zddc

"What the Freak"
"Way to Fail"

:7

Derby: Acronym removal. Making a case against a rule does not exempt the case from the rules.

FQuist: Putting the post back, which can stand without being against the rules. I also changed the url into something working. In the future, if you have an url with a filtered thing in it you could try tinyurl.com to indirectly link to it.

[Stijn]

go to the url below, but remove the spacing at the end (The Stupid JCF Filter even blocks legit URL's, way to go JCF admins)

http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact&Acronym=(-)

"(-)"
"(-)"

:7
thats the second worst argument I ever heard -_-

Derby: Previous quotation edit.

[Torkell]

...the JCF Filter even blocks legit URL's...
I've run into that one as well, when linking to the BOFH section on The Register

[LittleFreak]

thats the second worst argument I ever heard -_-

What's the first worst?

[FQuist]

Throwing around with definitions doesn't work. Everyone know what that abbreviation usually stands for.

Filtered words are blocked in urls too. The filter's purpose is to block swearing. If everyone could swear just by posting urls containing swear words, that would kind of be defeating the purpose of having a filter.

The acronym filtered generally does not mean "What the Freak" or any of the others the page mentions. It generally means "What the (expletive)" and that is how most people interpret it, and how we do that. The other interpretations are ones barely ever used. "Way to fail" or "Where's the Fridge?" isn't exactly what people usually mean when they use it.

There would be no reason to have a censor if people used acronyms to say exactly the same. Which is why they're blocked.

[Tubz]

Everyone knows the censorship here is out of hand, who cares though, It's not going to change, I've tried and tried again.

I agree it is pathetic Nimrod, but oh well.

Magoo...Quist, umm personally I think those suggestions defeat the purpose of the joke.

[Radium]

I understand the reason the picture was sesored, but personally I see nothing wrong with profane acronyms.

[Violet CLM]

What I don't see is why this is "pathetic" NOW. Why is December 2004 any different from the entire time the JCF has been running?

[Odin]

What I don't see is why this is "pathetic" NOW. Why is December 2004 any different from the entire time the JCF has been running?

The forums have much worse members.

[Radium]

UR, I demand you remove the acronym FSP from your signature, or link to it with a warning.

[MoonBlazE]

It's always been pathetic. It's just now that someone in charge realized it.

If the filter is meant to protect younger users and keep the forums clean, then why does the filter replace a swearing word with (-)? It's obvious that the user swear and in most cases you can guess what was filtered. That doesn't seen very clean to me.

In the TWC community, www.thewarcenter.com, our filter replaces swearing words with funny and hilarious words, so if someone freaks out swearing it would turn into one of Tickbot's RSG messages as their swearings are replaced with sentences like "Evil kitty" and "Wild monkey love". Also, words are NOT filtered in URLS.

It would also be nice if the moderation would stop filtering examples in such discussion. It's really stupid and makes the subject harder to discuss.

[MaGoo]

Wow.. I can't believe that was actually filtered out.

EDIT: Again, filtered out. DERBY STOP >III!!!!!

Okay, let's see here..

Derby: Filter bypass removal. If you continue this, you will receive a warning for reinitializing an offense.

[Blackraptor]

Any acronym can be used as a bad word.

I could pretend FB means something bad or ADIDAS really stands for something else, big deal.

I think filtering acronyms is taking it way over the extreme.


Oh yeah, if a '"little kid" comes here, I dont think s/he would really know what it stands for..

Derby: Filter bypass/acronym removal. This is the last time bypassing the filter will be tolerated in this topic. Discussing a rule does not exempt one from the rules.

[Nimrod]

Derby: Filter bypass/acronym removal. This is the last time bypassing the filter will be tolerated in this topic. Discussing a rule does not exempt one from the rules.

It makes it almost impossible to discuss the rule, if we cant even mention it without getting moaned at...

[Tubz]

Lol, you can only anger Derby long enough before he starts punishing.

[MaGoo]

What if I were to use... WTS?

Or maybe WTA?
WTB?
WTC?
WTD?
WTE
WTG
WTH
WTI
WTJ
WTL
WTM
WTN
WTO
WTP
WTQ
WTR
WTS
WTT
WTU
WTV
WTW
WTX
WTY
WTZ

Are any of those acronyms acceptable?

[Torkell]

I suppose it would depend on the most common expansion of them.

Speaking of the abbreviation in question, I once heard of a time when someone said "What the (-) is (-)". I'm sure you can all guess what's going on (assuming you know what the previously mentnioned abbreviation stands for).

Out of curosity, is (-) filtered? (similar to (-) and (-))

Edit: looks like they aren't. I assume the admins know what they stand for...

Derby: Acronym removal. Those were not filtered. On the other hand, they are uncommon here. An acronym cannot be made offensive by declaration. It requires frequent use before that happens.

[Odin]

WTC

WORLD TRADE CENTER OMG

Also, I think that the filtering of acronyms is really stupid. I know that a little kid could use a search engine and easily find out what the acronym means, but if he does, let him.

Also, I believe that the website shouldn't be responsible for stuff like filtering acronyms. If a parent has a problem with whar a person said, take it up with that person.

Also, for some time i've had an idea of an 'JCF Adult', or JCF for people who don't want the exsessive filtering. In order to be a member of JCF Adult (JCFA going forward), you must prove that you are 13 years of age or older. Some exceptions can be made (Blacky is 12, I think).

[cooba]

Blacky turned 13 recently, and so did I.

Magoo, WTA, WTB and WTC could consist of swear word.

[Odin]

Blacky turned 13 recently, and so did I.

Magoo, WTA, WTB and WTC could consist of swear word.

Oh.

Well, i'm older than you! NAYH NAYH.

[Blackraptor]

Eh....if you consider 6 months ago recently..

[MaGoo]

Blacky turned 13 recently, and so did I.

Magoo, WTA, WTB and WTC could consist of swear word.

They could all consist of a swear word, which is why filtering acronyms is stupid.

[Torkell]

I did wonder if that post was going to get edited.

The JCF adult thing sounds nice, but it's unenforcable. Someone who is only 10 could easily claim to be 20 or 40.

Generally, people can get their point across without swearing, though some tend to use the abbreviations much like they'd use "lol". But the filtering (and admins) here could be worse. Fancy having "homosexual" filtered, for example?

[Odin]

The JCF adult thing sounds nice, but it's unenforcable. Someone who is only 10 could easily claim to be 20 or 40.

Yeah. That's the one wrinkle in the sheet that I saw. I guess you could have proof from your parents or something.

Also, if a 10-year-old claims to be 20 or 40, he can, but he'll just go way over his head in stuff. He probably wouldn't like what would be going on in that forum and leave. And if he did, good for him.

[Stijn]

I did wonder if that post was going to get edited.

The JCF adult thing sounds nice, but it's unenforcable. Someone who is only 10 could easily claim to be 20 or 40.

Generally, people can get their point across without swearing, though some tend to use the abbreviations much like they'd use "lol". But the filtering (and admins) here could be worse. Fancy having "homosexual" filtered, for example?
"homo" was filtered some time ago.

[Tubz]

At least with the JCF Adult idea, people who don't like profanity could join the normal JCF. I would say instead of that, just have a checkbox when you join, and that would be all profanity would be filtered if you checked the check box.