1.25 Beta Is Here!

[Violet CLM]

No layer would be able to cover up water, water is in front of everything. Therefore water is layer 0.
What about the HUD and the F3 stuff?

[Risp_old]

YES WE MUST HACK THE HUD TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE ROCKS.

[PhAyzoN]

Nobody did this yet. I CLAIM PAGE 7!!!

[MSB3000]

Whiterabbit why did you eat BlurredD?

THAT'S IMPOLITE

[PhAyzoN]

Dude... You're such a nay-sayer... Or a whistle-blower... Or something... I bet if we looked up your post history, it'd all be like you saying, "stupid stupid stupid"...

Get off it, please.

Go ahead. Look it up. Thats about my 3rd stupid post,and my 4th is a bit below, the rest are decent, i dont post much. besides, whats wrong w/ having a little fun?

[Skeven]

YES WE MUST HACK THE HUD TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE ROCKS.

HAHAHAHA! LOL! OMG! Sorry... I just found that quite funny. ... ...

[n00b]

Go ahead. Look it up. Thats about my 3rd stupid post,and my 4th is a bit below, the rest are decent, i dont post much. besides, whats wrong w/ having a little fun?
I did, the post history is pretty standard for a JCF minio-... member.

[fiendmm++]

Yes Haxessorize the HUD with all sorts of Hax. 1337. :Z

[Tubz]

Dude... You're such a nay-sayer... Or a whistle-blower... Or something... I bet if we looked up your post history, it'd all be like you saying, "stupid stupid stupid"...

Get off it, please.

Would you like some kettle-cooked food? Or what is a whistle doodle. How about some rice-a-roony. You can thank your mother-in-law for that.

[Melissa0]

Is this a trick/hoax or a real thing.. because all I hear from people is that the guy who made this post is a quote:

"April the first crack head jj2 hater dll *****"

Correct me if im wrong, and I don't remember who told me that :O

[blurredd]

It's both.

[PhAyzoN]

Both as in Real and Fake or Trick and Hoax :P ?

[cooba]

Both as in three at time.

[Bjossi]

Are Epic ever going to release the source code so we can make our own 1.25?

[Nielsje]

That is not likely to happen very soon.

[TaZaR]

It was a cruel joke, heh... :) I had just back weeks ago for Aniversity Bash, and I've seen that topic. I was really happy, till I figured out, that's a hoax. Pretty cruel, hehe. :D I've never tought on it, it's not real, cuz I'm out from jazz community since a year, and I tought it should be possible, that source code is released after a year.
Well, is there any reason for it, that Epic will ever release the source code? Could we try to ask it somehow, or dunno. They haven't got any more profit from that game, the source code should be free... :(

[DarkJazz23]

I guess I'll wait 'till it's done... Could you guys tell me where to get Jazz 2 (Not TSF!!!)? Thnx anyways!

[TaZaR]

I've just seen that anim here:
http://users.pandora.be/pyromanus/JJ2/boss-tweedle-spinkick.gif
How is that made? Is it a fan draw, or is it somehow ripped from jazz2?

[cooba]

Ripped, by exploiting a hole in Anims.j2a coding and a few C++ programs.

[TaZaR]

Oh. :eek:
Is there other sprites extracted from the j2a file? :rolleyes:

[Bjossi]

I don´t see the reason for not releasing the source code. The game is almost as old as Quake 2...

[TaZaR]

Is it possible to ask epic somehow to release source code? Well, I know that's sounds stupid, but I don't think if epic still not released the source code, that they ever will...

[WaterRabbit]

It is also impossible for us to get the source code ourseleves because you would have to decompile or disassemble JJ2 which is prevented by a law saying you cannot reverse engineer, decomplie or disassemble JJ2.

"YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO REVERSE ENGINEER, DECOMPILE OR DISASSEMBLE THE SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY." - the JJ2 Readme "from Legal Stuff and Waranty Info"

(Tell me if this in the wrong thread or not.)

[MSB3000]

THIS THREAD IS LIKE 4 WEEKS OLD!!!!
thats got to be a record or something

and i heard on jj2 channel that epic probably doesn't even have the source code anymore.
or its probably lost on some CD burried in some drawer in an abandoned part of the building haunted by ghosts or David Letterman clones.

[TaZaR]

So, there's not any chance, we'll ever have a source code? :confused:

[blurredd]

Long live the 1.25 Beta thread.

[PhAyzoN]

Could always see if Mich is still around. michiel@epicgames.com ask him about it

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Even if they don't have the source, it could be possible for them to make Jazz 2 freeware (1.24 please!) and then aloow us to change the source. Just like Id Soft.

[PhAyzoN]

Darker's Dad has the source somewhere on an old harddrive. Ask him to find it.

[BattleSpaz]

So, there's not any chance, we'll ever have a source code? :confused:

Uh, i give an idea that we would collect lots of jazzplayers names and clan names and site names and say we want continue jazz jackrabbit 2 but noone took it to hearing ears.

[Superjazz]

Pageclaim. :D

[BattleSpaz]

as i said, noone takes my things to hearing ears ;-)

[TaZaR]

Maybe, that not a good idea, but why don't the community collect money and buy the rights of jj2 include the source code, and after the community got it, they can make it free. :lol:
Ok, I've said nothin. :Z

[Hybrid]

can i have that beta?
it looks sooooo cool!!
plz send it 2 me!!!!

[blurredd]

8 pages and the replies to this topic still amuse me.

[PhAyzoN]

@BlurredD
LOL Same here

@jWLKR

We've been through this, most of us are sure it dont exist

[Hybrid]

lol im joking

or am i....

[Black Ninja]

You know what's really strange? Although Epic won't release the JJ2 source code, they already released the Unreal Tournament source code to a group of talented coders in the community. Look at this: http://www.utpg.org/
If someone were to send them a polite email saying "You released the source for one of your most popular games, why not JJ2?" There might be half of almost nearly partly a chance that Epic would even READ IT.

It says this on that site I mentioned. Quite interesting:

We are a group of programmers and server admins from the UT community who got together and approached Epic about the possibility of maintaining the Unreal Tournament code base. Since our goal of maintaining the game and fixing obvious problems, while keeping all the major game-play systems 100% intact, were right along with Epic's goals, Epic granted us access to the source which allows us to undertake this project. Our focus is general maintenance with some of our time spent dealing with security issues in the Unreal Tournament engine.

Annoying, eh? Oh well.

[Sonyk]

It's almost as though Epic denies ever making JJ2. They no longer have any official JJ2 webpages, and as far as my knowledge is aware, there has only been 1 JJ easter egg in the Unreal games.

The problem is how easy it is for a game like Unreal to be popular, and how easy it is for a game like JJ2 to not be (aside from us, of course, but we don't count in Epic's eyes, for some reason).

[Murderbeam]

It's as if epic WANTED to make jazz fail :O . If that is true, then they are all sick minded Idiots. It's like they intended to do this. This is a BIG consparicy about Epic and Making jazz dead!

If what i said is true, then epic is *EVIL*

That is all i have to say for now.

[Blade Nightflame]

I ain't surprised, while it was granted a very good idea, and possibly had some of my requests taken it. I have a feeling it'd be an "April Fools" joke. The screenshots were pretty cool, but it didn't look offical enough, making it less credible in my eyes.

Yes, somehow I do have a feeling that Epic doesn't even take care about Jazz Jackrabbit, only for their piffling Unreal Tournament games, which, are getting old. FAST. If they can't focus ONE second of their lives on their older games, than they shouldn't even be a company to begin with. I swear if all they think is "OMG, LETS MAKE ANOTHER UNREAL WITH 00BER GRAFICS!", then god bless them if they ever think about fun and gameplay, ala JJ2 for once!

[Sacrush]

Mastercheater: Although I really want a new jazzjackrabbit, it is no reason to say that the unreal series sucks, because it doesnt.

[Jerrythabest]

Tell them, that Jazz Jackrabbit 2 is one of THEIR games, they HAVE TO care about it too. So many people are trying to change JJ2 so that it's even better, and if they don't care at all, why would they ever keep the source code secret? Dreams are fine, but reality is what we want to see! (Well, I do, and I think most of you want to build 1.25 too) And if they really don't have it any more, there has to be ANY way to get that code? And if they want JJ2 to die just like everyone is dying to get this, then let JJ2 live with our own 1.25! Please, make them give that code! I've seen that most people want 1.25 since 2002, and they still haven't gave us the code. Just ask them one LITTLE thing:


WHY?



So, I think that's enough.

// Jerry //

[cooba]

Tell them, that Jazz Jackrabbit 2 is one of THEIR games, they HAVE TO care about it too. So many people are trying to change JJ2 so that it's even better, and if they don't care at all, why would they ever keep the source code secret? Dreams are fine, but reality is what we want to see! (Well, I do, and I think most of you want to build 1.25 too) And if they really don't have it any more, there has to be ANY way to get that code? And if they want JJ2 to die just like everyone is dying to get this, then let JJ2 live with our own 1.25! Please, make them give that code! I've seen that most people want 1.25 since 2002, and they still haven't gave us the code. Just ask them one LITTLE thing: WHY?Why don't YOU ask them =\

[Jerrythabest]

i knew someone would ask that, well, that isn't too complicated: I am just helping you to make tham give the code, i don't even know what i have to do with that code!:roll: it sounds stupid, i know, but saying that is just a way to find out why (i think you noticed the word WHY?, or didn't you;))...

[Sacrush]

Or they dont give the source code cause they maybe they still wanna start a new Jazz game. There was nothing in the planning so there is a little change.

[Bliss AKA Blink]

You guys really have no lives

[Sonyk]

You guys really have no lives
As do you, for posting on a message board where we live less people exist.

[Black Ninja]

Although it's totally unfair that Epic released the source for UT and not JJ2, that's not any kind of reason to say Unreal sucks. In many ways, it's similar to JJ2. Think about it. There's a reason the original JJ3 demo used the Unreal engine. It's the closest thing to a 3D JJ2 there is. Also, UT2K4 > *.

[Blade Nightflame]

Mastercheater: Although I really want a new jazzjackrabbit, it is no reason to say that the unreal series sucks, because it doesnt.

Well, it doesn't suck exactly, I like the first two Unreal games, Unreal 1 and UT classic. The other games however, sucked.

[Black Ninja]

Incorrect.

The only people who say that the modern Unreal games suck usually say that because their PC sucks and can't play them at full detail.

[n00b]

Unreal Championship 2 is also a good Unreal game.

[Nielsje]

Uhm, a small question to the J2O Admins: when are you going to allow 1.25 levels as uploads? Since I got the patch a few weeks ago, I already made a few levels, but I'm not sure how to upload them.

[cooba]

ahahhahahahahahaha no plzkthx <hidden personal attack>

[Blade Nightflame]

Incorrect.

The only people who say that the modern Unreal games suck usually say that because their PC sucks and can't play them at full detail.


Hahah, well. Usually for some people it's like that, but I assure you, my PC is not that weak to run UT2003/04. Usually, it just doesn't have the same "fun" and "gameplay" in my view, as the old UT games. Even though it's nearly, if not mostly the same, it's just too diffrent for my taste. (No, I do not mean the new game modes.)

But, putting aside those UT chats..

[Jerrythabest]

Uhm, a small question to the J2O Admins: when are you going to allow 1.25 levels as uploads? Since I got the patch a few weeks ago, I already made a few levels, but I'm not sure how to upload them.

is there a patch? I tought they couldn't create a 1.25 patch! tell me all about it!!:P

[cooba]

is there a patch? I tought they couldn't create a 1.25 patch! tell me all about it!!:POR MAYBE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PATCH <s>IS NOT FOR COMMUNITY NEWCOMERS WITHOUT ENGLISH GRAMMAR SKILLS</s> DOES NOT EXIST

[Blade Nightflame]

is there a patch? I tought they couldn't create a 1.25 patch! tell me all about it!!:P

It was confirmed that there is NO 1.25 patch at the current time, maybe somewhere in the distant, DISTANT future, but not now. At best if anyone was talking about a 1.25 patch, saying they had it. It was a lie, an April Fools joke. Geez. =/

[DarkSonic]

OR MAYBE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PATCH <s>IS NOT FOR COMMUNITY NEWCOMERS WITHOUT ENGLISH GRAMMAR SKILLS</s> DOES NOT EXIST
Everybody's English sucked once. So did yours. Now stop posting insulting things, ok?
Back to topic, I can't believe that there is still being posted in this topic while we all know that it was a joke. At least alot of us know.

[Jerrythabest]

what is a resource code anyway?

[Blade Nightflame]

what is a resource code anyway?

Somehow, simply put, it's the "Source Code"

.. What's a Source Code you ask? Well, think of it as a lot of text-type files (.c, .h like), with code in them? Still don't understand? Eh, basicly, a Source Code is where ALL the coding for the entire game, that means Enemy A.I., player movement, paralax coding, all there. That's in the source code, but it does not include Sprites, graphics and such things though. That's what a "Source Code" is.

[BattleSpaz]

OR maybe epic is scared to give us the jazz 2 source code if we make it good again. :P
Or then they just makes a ne jazz.
I like UT. But i hate Epic because they dont give us the source code. But WHY!? or is the ansver only that noone havent asked yet? -.-

[White Rabbit]

*chokes*

We've asked a bit more than once, John.

[Sonyk]

is the ansver only that noone havent asked yet? -.-You've been really inactive, havn't you?

[TaZaR]

I've sent an email to this adress: michiel@epicgames.com
I dunno it's a fake or a not fake email, or something, and I don't think he'll answer, but I'm still hoping... :roll:

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I would've sent a message if I knew that there was an e-mail address.

[sickn3ss]

ur mom

[MSB3000]

i know

[dalisene]

Somebody send that patch to me! I NEED IT! lol :r

[FQuist]

This was an april fools joke, Dalisene..

[Ðx]

well lets hope ther will come a ''REAL'' patch

[NinJazz]

bet this can be fake as long also. but wish it is true.

[minmay]

This was an april fools joke, Dalisene..

You failed to capitalize April Fools, meaning that the patch is real. However, I must say that it does not meet my needs.

[blurredd]

Your standards are too high.

[minmay]

TOO BAD.

[Tubz]

A joke of this magnitude should really not be repeated because at least to me it was a cruel punt.

[blurredd]

I don't know, it could've been much bigger if I started it even sooner and involved a lot more people. So many ideas wasted.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Good did come out of this; JJ2 Hoaxes thread.

[cooba]

Good did come out of this; JJ2 Hoaxes thread.I do not appreciate (-)kissing, sorry.

[Monolith]

Hasn't this been the traditional April Fools joke for several years? Why did people get all worked up about it this time?

[BattleSpaz]

Im waiting 1.25 just because there MAY be addet support to join to servers EVEN with ROUTER, so joining wont need sending stuff. and also, i hope it will be 1000000Xcoolerthantheoldcrappyepicgamesversion.

[blurredd]

Hasn't this been the traditional April Fools joke for several years? Why did people get all worked up about it this time?More "proof" than usual, I guess.

[ThunderPX]

Can't someone close this thing already?

[CrimiClown]

Gogo gadget Derby!
(Gogo gadget Derby appears courtesy of Odin, who was recently banned for saying this and many many other stuff...)

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Can somebody give me a link to the thing about what you want implemented in 1.25?

[Monolith]

Can somebody give me a link to the thing about what you want implemented in 1.25?
Try looking in the Future of Jazz forum. I think there might be multiple topics on that in there.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I looked in every one but couldn't find it.

[minmay]

...1.25 is so outta here. 4.73 is what it's all about now!

[Tubz]

Gogo gadget Derby!
(Gogo gadget Derby appears courtesy of Odin, who was recently banned for saying this and many many other stuff...)
I know why the Odin was banned, and that's not why. BTW, if you what you said could you be interpreted as an insult, then that's ok, first grader insults are fine here. And statements like that are ok, I insult Derby all the time because I disagree with the majority of his actions.

[n00b]

...1.25 is so outta here. 4.73 is what it's all about now!
You just don't know when to quit do you?

[minmay]

I know why the Odin was banned, and that's not why. BTW, if you what you said could you be interpreted as an insult, then that's ok, first grader insults are fine here. And statements like that are ok, I insult Derby all the time because I disagree with the majority of his actions.

Stop hating Derby, plzthx.

[Black Ninja]

Who's the foo that revived this topic?

Once and for all: it's a joke. There is no 1.25 patch. There is no (legal) patch to patch your game above 1.23. Also, Firefox is better than IE.

[Super_Jarno]

Oh please sign me up!!

[cooba]

oh plz sign me up lol!!Once and for all: it's a joke. There is no 1.25 patch. There is no (legal) patch to patch your game above 1.23. Also, Firefox is better than IE.&nbsp;

[Slaz]

Jarno, please stop bumping old topics, post in the new ones to have the most fun.

[Super_Jarno]

Sign me uP!!!!

[Gizmaluke]

Sign me uP!!!!
LOL this is joke

[Grytolle]

Lol Gizmo u thought of perhaps he did kn ow and siad that as joke LOL??????