JJ2WC II - Match Logs

[Nielsje]

This is the topic for match logs of matches in JJ2WC II.

Cracco Clan vs. Guru's of Proactive Warfare

Finally, the day came today. R3ptile already announced this to be the match of the week, and in my eyes it will also end up in the top 3 of the most interesting JJ2WC2 matches. Why? Because this is the first official encounter between the two senior JJ2 clans: the Cracco Clan (C-C) and the Guru's of Proactive Warfare (GpW) Both clans are over 5 years old and the last war was years ago. Well, let's see how the titans clash….

The excitement was huge already when the Pre-game server went up in the air, around 19:30 (all times are GMT +1) and many players from C-C and officials joined it. GpW however had only two or three people in the server (Urbs and Keleet). The general problem was that SuperJazz didn’t show up. Minutes passed by, but still no sign of him. Just when the time limit was 3 minutes passed and Urbs considered a forfeit loss, SuperJazz showed up (he couldn’t come because his sister was using the PC) and the day was saved. I immediately launched the server, first private, later public. After some fussing, the teams we're well divided and the match could start, at 20:30. 15 minutes over time.

Round 1
C-C = Vegito, Chiyu, Grytolle (blue)
GpW = Urbs, Keleet, SuperJazz (red)

Vegito from C-C directly captured the flag, and later GpW reacted. The first goal of the match took long to come, because both teams managed to keep alive for a very long time, and the backup positions by players at the enemy base were almost always excellent, however there were several flag gaps (moments in which a team didn't have the flag) The five minutes mark passed by, without any score. Many scoring possibilities came for C-C, with some huge gaps around minute 7. But nothing happened, and GpW managed to keep the flag in play. Right after the ten minute mark, C-C broke open the fame with two quick scores by Grytolle. Many kills followed each other up and after about 20 seconds the game returned to be stable. Then, Chiyu scored point 3, after 12 minutes. Things were starting to look darker and darker for the Gurus of Proactive Warfare.
After a time-out of about 30 seconds (Vegito crashed and had no teamchat) the game continued. At 14:30, another time-out came because Superjazz was away for a few seoncds. He was directly killed after his return. Keleet made the first goal for GpW after 16 minutes. More goals seemed to follow, but C-C didn't give in, and they kept the game stable. The game seemed to stabilize and not many kills were made during this period. C-C had the chance to score again at 19 minutes, but they didn't suC-Ceed.
The game was played, and all players agreed that this first round was a good game.

http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/images/jjccvsgpw1.PNG

Results: 3-1 for Cracco Clan

Round 2
C-C = Yasco, Chiyu, Grytolle (red)
GpW = Urbs, Keleet, SuperJazz (blue)

The first round ended at 20:52 GMT +1, and the next round started a few minutes later. This time, C-C played as red and GpW as blue. C-C did a slight change in members (Vegito was replaced by Yasco) and GpW decided to game on with the same line-up.
After all players collected coins and stuff, the game started at exactly 21:00. GpW started with renewed hope, and they started quite good. Grytolle had some small problems in the beginning (stuck in wall) but after that the game started off smoothly.
GpW showed some better team play in the first minutes than in the first round, and every lost flag was quite soon recaptured. C-C scored the first point after 2.45 minutes (thanks to Grytolle) which was a lot sooner then the previous round. Quickly, a second goal for C-C followed scored by Chiyu, at 3.20 to be precise. Another short timeout at 4:40 because Keleet got stuck. Yasco, C-C's flag carrier, got a 3hk at 5.30 (one of the rare cases of lag during this game) but Chiyu quickly recaptured. C-C's team play remained still very good, as they also showed in the war versus the Total Freaks, a few weeks ago.
The minutes passed by, but no-one scored. It was similar to the first round, in which it took 10 minutes before the first goal was made. At 12.45, Chiyu scored the third goal for C-C. Internal struggles started to happen at GpW. A pause came at 13.37 (lol) because Urbs got stuck, and a small fight broke out in GpW: SuperJazz accsed Keleet for not reacting in teamchat. After the fight was over, SuperJazz scored for GpW at 14.25, the fourth goal in this round. C-C came back with a nice goal by Chiyu at 16.00, making the total 4-1 and the match total 7-2 for C-C. C-C even made a 5th goal at 19.10 by Gry.
The last minute was very hectical and hard to follow for an official like me, because the goals followed quickly. Grytolle made a sixth goal for C-C around 19.30, and Chiyu added cream to the pie by making a 7th goal for C-C in the last ten seconds of the game. It was a very good second round, with some more short breaks because many people got stuck in walls (this didn't happen during round 1)

http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/images/jjccvsgpw2.PNG

Round Results: 7-1 for Cracco Clan

Closing comments
And so the clash of the titans ended in a smashing victory for the Cracco's. The final score was 10-2 for the clan lead by Chiyu, which proves again how strong the clan has grown recently. Beating GpW, which played really good despite the low score, will be counted as a crucial move and C-C proved with this match that they are one of the favourites for the first place of this tournament.

Final Score: 10-2 for Cracco Clan

Top Scorers
C-C
Chiyu (6x)
Grytolle (4x)

GpW
Keleet (1x)
SuperJazz (1x)

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[shaney]

GG CC

[Sasik]

Originally Posted by ChippieBW
C-C
Why not 'CC' ? =P

[Anakin[CC]]

Why not 'CC' ? =P

my qeustion, nice work still Chippie, seriously gj !!!

I didnt play the match, it was basicly a CraccoClan B-Team line up in this match :P. gg i guess.

[Nielsje]

It gives an error somehow. It has something to do wih the fact that if you type 'CC' with a space in front of it, it doesn't work. Weird bug.

[Grytolle]

Wow, what can I add?:P

Uhm, let's see... Yeah, Yasco and Veg didnt score, since they were always R... And I sort of expected this, although I wouldnt say it out loud before game:)

As the score shows the POTM was Chiyu, but I did excellent too. Really sick timing w/ Tom =) An eloge to Veg and Yasco too, who played better than all GpWers :)

And finally, ++Urbs.

The Imperial March has Begun!

[Chiyu]

As I said before, this match means more to me than JJ2WC itself. Since our encounter way back in 1999 or 2000, we have been enemies. ÇC and GpW members could never get along and we were always flaming eachother. My Co-Leader COOLM@N and I were always on the front row with these fights, usually facing Shadow and Newspaz. After the years, things have cooled down and we became rivals rather than enemies. Shadow and I have admitted to eachother that we were acting really childish and stupid back then. But since early 2002, we have always been hoping to get a clanwar ÇC vs. GpW to fight it out once and for all. Even although ÇC'ers and GpW'ers are getting along really nicely nowadays, the strong desire to face my old rivals never faded away.

And there was our chance in 2005; JJ2WCII. Originally, the warteam was going to be Grytolle - Sephiroth - Squirrel, simply because they were supposed to be the best players in Nuclear Afterblast in ÇC. Both Sephiroth and Squirrel were unable to play at the arranged time though. A good thing about ÇC is that we have enough warteam players (7) to fall in for people who can't play. This was my chance. I had taken a rest from JJ2 about three weeks ago, but I decided to come back earlier than planned. I found myself better and more motivated than ever before. Monday and Tuesday I didn't play any other level than Nuclear Afterblast. And out of the about seven training matches I played, I didn't lose a single one. And so I was able to force my way into the warteam.

In the 20 minutes before the game began, I had to pee three times. I was that nervous. This was going to be "IT", my most important hour at JJ2 ever. I felt so different than I normally would, about to start a match or clanwar. Something inside of me told me that I just "HAD" to win this match, and give everything I have. Then the game began, after a bit of waiting for SuperJazz. It took us some time (about 10 minutes) to really get into the game, and I was happy to reach a 3-1 lead in the first round. All three of us did a good job. But the second round, was just amazing. After a while I expected that we'd get 3-1 again, but in a relatively short time, Gry and I were able to score four more points to add to our total. Our teamplay and our timing were great! Yasco did well too. 10-2, what a result. A deserved victory for the Cracco Clan, but more than that, a personal victory for myself. If ÇC gets far this tournament, that's nice, but having defeated GpW is already the ultimate victory for myself. The old rivalry between the Cracco's and the Guru's has finally been settled. I'm happy. I have reached my goal on JJ2...

On a sidenote, I'd like to dedicate this victory to my old best friend and Co-Leader COOLM@N (aka HikariCM), for the reason mentioned above.
GG.

[Vegito]

"Uhm, let's see... Yeah, Yasco and Veg didnt score, since they were always R... And I sort of expected this, although I wouldnt say it out loud before game" ~ Gry.

I just played my own game :P was R when I had to be R, killed when I had to kill...
I am not a very well NA player though.. It isn't my fave level...
the last time I played a clanwar (Vs. TF) it was Semi. The best level I have atm.. well yea, then it goes lots of better than this.. ;)
Anyway, I still think I am not good in NA.. just normal :P
I am a better player in MS and Sacr.. :O

Funny that 3 players which even werent in the warteam played and still beated them like this.. :P

[Superjazz]

After the fight was over, Keleet scored for GpW at 14.25, the fourth goal in this match.

It was actually me who scored this time. Keleet probably just thought he scored as he passed through our base at the same time when I scored.

[SquirreL]

akkuDAVA !!!

[COOLM@N CC]

On a sidenote, I'd like to dedicate this victory to my old best friend and Co-Leader COOLM@N (aka HikariCM), for the reason mentioned above.
GG.

Thanks. It means a lot to me ;'|

[Grytolle]

Sweet *sentimental* ^^

[Ragnarok!]

Well, to be honest, both clans were a BIT big-headed before the game, but what happened happened ;l

[White Rabbit]

But CC's victory has only made them swell up more (to normal size - this is to avoid flaming). And what about GpW?

[Ragnarok!]

"But camping IS a tactic" - WhiteRabbit

[Grytolle]

I cant remember camping much =S

[Ragnarok!]

Nah, I just have to pwn WR with that.

[Grytolle]

o :P

[Anakin[CC]]

Legends Reborn VS Legendary Blades
Replay
http://www.craccoclan.com/downloads/LRvsLB_round1.rar (Round 1)
http://www.craccoclan.com/downloads/LRvsLB_round2.rar (Round 2)
Gry maked the movies, hosted the game and will post a report soon, i uploaded the movies. 8 MB each. ( boring parts are cutted out )

[Grytolle]

Legendary Blades vs. Legends Reborn
Date: 9 April 2005
Score: 27 - 4
Gamemode: Capture The Flag
Rounds: 2

I won't bother writing a report, but I did record it, so if anyone feel like counting scorers, do that, and I shall add it to this.

Round 1:
Host: GrytolleCC
Blue Team: Stunner[LB] - Saddam[LB] - Criss[LB]
Red Team: PieLR - BlastFireLR - CrusaderLR
Level: Quasar Quandry
Score: 19 - 0

Round 2:
Host: GrytolleCC
Blue Team: PieLR - BlastFireLR - CrusaderLR
Red Team: Stunner[LB] - Vector[LB] - Criss[LB]
Level: Quasar Quandry
Score: 8 - 4

Comments:
Jurgen[LB]:
The clanwar was easy. Just as I expected. Saddam and me eat noobs ;/.
Anyway, the first round went perfect. Since IronLight is gone till Sunday, we
couldn't use our best warteam. We had to replace him with Criss.
We managed to get 19-0.
Sadly, Saddam had to go before the second round started, so we had to replace him with
Shaney ;/. I still did a good job and got 8-4, even with this team. Haha. Total score, 27-4. Yawn ;/.

CrusaderLR:
This was my 2nd cw and was really disappointed by the final score. The 2nd round was easier probably because saddam was not there, replaced by shaney. This would have been easier with Cräft LR here too.

GrytolleCC
It was GG. LR sucked in round1, never RTS and seldom R. Also they didnt use the right weapons. In round2 the used gun2 more. Which made the game a roastingfest! Anyways, I feel proud about my ex-clanmates that managed to get 8-4 in one round (eventhough saddam was replaced that sure wasn't expected).

Replay
http://www.craccoclan.com/downloads/LRvsLB_round1.rar
http://www.craccoclan.com/downloads/LRvsLB_round2.rar
Boring stuff are cut out. Thanks to Anakin for hosting them on craccoclan.com

[Chiyu]

Hmmm, gg. Nice of you to record the match on a movie. 27-4 is quite an impressing score.

[Grytolle]

I think 19-0 was impressing.
8-4 was a great comeback of LR.

[White Rabbit]

Come on! TF vs DM results! I don't even know what happened in that game! Show us, Chippie! ;)

[Nielsje]

Dark Mercenaries vs. Total Freaks

Well, it's time for another "Match of the week" after this second playday of JJ2WC Season 2 (actually, it's the third playday, since the match between C-C and GpW was played on Tuesday instead of Saturday on which the other matches we're played/forfeited) Anyway, let's give out the logs, shall we?

I felt like an early pre-game today (mainly because I didn't know for sure if I was going to host it) so the server was up already at 17:55, which was 35 minutes before the actual match started. The server was almost directly heavily crowded, with (surprisingly) a very high number of DM-ers (Spotty, Everett, AvK, FireSworD and DizZy were in the same server, and some others were around too). TF however wasn't really represented very well, only White Rabbit and Enigma showed up in the first place. Unhit promised to come but because he didn't appear at the matchtime, Dalspots was summoned to play. Unhit appeared finally during the first minutes of the actual match (while others were collection ammo) so TF decided to play with him after all. The match could begin!

Round 1
DM: FireSworD, AvK, DizZy (in red)
TF: Enigma, White Rabbit, Unhit (he replaced Dalspots after a few minutes)(in blue)

The pre-match went pretty fast and thanks to extreme coincidence, all players had the right colour directly! Anyhow, after collecting ammo, the game started, at 18:40. It took only about 10 seconds before the first goal was made by DizZy for DM, and it was a rather questionable one (I don't exactly know how it happened, but it appears to be that DizZy died on the enemy base, took the flag with him while another team member killed the enemy flag carrier) anyway, the official (me) decided to declare the goal as legitimate, and the game went on with a 1-0 advantage for DM. For a few minutes the game was pretty much balanced but the second goal came at 2.20, when DizZy scored the 2-0. He did this again at 3.50 and 5.05, making the round total 4-0 for DM then. FireSworD scored his first one at 5.55. For a moment, TF seemed to be doomed but Unhit saved the day at 6.05 with the first goal for the Freaks. After another short pause, White Rabbit scored at 7.50 – his first goal of this match. Before the halfway mark, DM took revenge with two goals: AvK scored his first one at 9.10, and DizZy scored a few seconds later the 7-2. For another period of about 3 minutes the game was stable again, but then DM raised their score with one point thanks to a nice goal of FireSworD (his second). The third and final goal for TF was made by Enigma at 13.15, which made that all players scored one goal in this round. After that, DM started with their final assault and they managed to pump up the score with a few goals (FireSworD scored 9-3 at 14.05, AvK scored at 14.40 and 15.20) Finally, DizZy, the first and last scorer of this round, scored the final point of the game at 12-3. The last minutes of the game were better for the Total Freaks, but they didn't manage to score. So, after 20 minutes of playing time, the final score was set at 12-3 in advantage of DM.

http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/images/jjdmvstf1.PNG

Round Results: 12-3 for Dark Mercenaries

Round 2
DM: FireSworD, AvK, DizZy (in blue)
TF: Enigma, White Rabbit, Unhit (in red)

After some cuddling about the results and changes in strategy and colour, both teams started bravely with the second round of this Match of the Week. Both teams contined with the same line-up (DM probably because the "never change a winning team"-reason and TF probably because not many other players were available). 8 minutes after the ending of round 1, round 2 started.
Round 2 was clearly a lot more defensive than round 1. In round 1, a lot of goals were made during the first minutes already, and the teams played much more on the attack. This didn’t happen in round 2 at all: both teams preferred to stay near base and flag losses were recaptured quickly. However, TF couldn’t prevent to quick goals of DM during the fourth minute (AvK at 3.10 and DizZy at 4.00). After these goals a long period of silence followed, which was broken by a goal of DizZy around 9.15. At the halfway mark, the score was still 3-0 in advantage of the Mercenaries. The next goal took again long to come, it was made by FireSworD at exactly 13 minutes of playtime. A few seconds later DizZy pulled another one of, making the score 5-0 for DM.
After 75% of the round, both teams started to play more and more offensive, which resulted in a lot of kills and quick flag changes. TF, however they played quite good during the last 5 minutes, couldn't find a way to score a point in this round. The last two goals of the match were made by DM: AvK scored one around 17.30 and FireSworD did it around 19.02. After the minutes were over, all players agreed it was a nice game.

http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/images/jjdmvstf2.PNG

Round Results: 7-0 for Dark Mercenaries


Closing comments
The second "Match of the Week" ended, as already was expected by some people, in a victory for last years' champion, the Dark Mercenaries. Overall they showed very good teamplay and quick manoeuvres in a hectical map like Quasar Quandary. The final total of 19-3 was not really representative, however DM was truly a lot better than TF. There was, unfortunately, some more lag than with C-C vs. GpW last week, but it still wasn't as much that it would be unplayable.

Final Score: 19-3 for Dark Mercenaries

[u]Top Scorers
DM
DizZy (10x)
AvK (5x)
FireSworD (4x)

TF
Enigma (1x)
Unhit (1x)
White Rabbit (1x)

©2004-2005 JJ2WC (http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/)

Free for distribution purposes.

[DarkSonic]

Haha. In your pictures, it seems Enigma is the only one that's not saying gg.

[DoubleGJ]

JSZ vs GpW will be finished tomorrow, due to today's problems with hosts. However, round 1 was somehow finished and the current score is JSZ 3:5 GpW. =O I didn't expect us to be so close after. Hope luck will still be with us in round 2.

[Unhit]

GG. Once again sorry for being late, I had read a wrong time...thought it was 19:30, not 18:30 GMT :(. Thanks to Nigma and WR who played really good although they had such a bad mate, and gg DM of course :)

[ShadowGPW]

rotfl, can't believe your still taking this all serieusly man. Especially in a dead game, if it was for me we wouldn't even play a single war anymore, never mind a tournament. But that story you've written about rivals and settle things down. Dude, get real the game is dead and there isn't any major prizes on stack.

And to react on my own clanmates, can't believe you guys fought. Thats the worst thing you could do. Perhaps it was a stupid idea to continue wars in JJ2 for this clan. Should have listened to Gummy and disguise ;p

But GG

[blurredd]

Oooo, Mr. Pro-Gamer wants to run other people's fun.

Reply to SJ's comment: Touché.

[Superjazz]

Probably too late to cancel a tournament unless we gave all matches a forfeit loss by purpose. So, we shouldn't play jj2 for GpW because we suck in it? Ha? Or whatever you're meaning with that...

No major prizes? Should a game with the main purpose of fun, to be based as a very serious game ruining all the fun of it?
Come and play yourself at our next round against JSZ then, Ins. ;)

[White Rabbit]

Round 1: DM in red. TF in red. :lol:

But still, great, er, logging, Chip. :)

Enigma, Unhit and I sucked equally bad but DM clearly relied on Bob more than on AvK and FS. :D

[Grytolle]

Such spirit you have, Shadow. ;/

[R3ptile]

rotfl, can't believe your still taking this all serieusly man. Especially in a dead game, if it was for me we wouldn't even play a single war anymore, never mind a tournament. But that story you've written about rivals and settle things down. Dude, get real the game is dead and there isn't any major prizes on stack.

And to react on my own clanmates, can't believe you guys fought. Thats the worst thing you could do. Perhaps it was a stupid idea to continue wars in JJ2 for this clan. Should have listened to Gummy and disguise ;p

But GG
<s>You're right. I should stop playing this game because it's old and there aren't any major prizes on stack, and start playing Painkiller though I don't like it at all and I still think that a game like Jazz Jackrabbit 2 is more enjoyable.</s>

No.

[Nielsje]

rotfl, can't believe your still taking this all serieusly man. Especially in a dead game, if it was for me we wouldn't even play a single war anymore, never mind a tournament. But that story you've written about rivals and settle things down. Dude, get real the game is dead and there isn't any major prizes on stack.

So the only reason for playing game is winning prizes? I mean, you suggest the only reason for gaming is winning cash. The original reason for the creation of games was to make fun. If you want to win prizes, go play some stupid-shooting "professional game", but don't tell us to stop with it please.
By the way, why you think the game's dead? I agree it's not really alive like it was before, but the number of players didn't really decrease during the last 2 years and if you look at the enthousiasm for tournaments like JJ2WC, I can't say the game is dead.

And to react on my own clanmates, can't believe you guys fought. Thats the worst thing you could do. Perhaps it was a stupid idea to continue wars in JJ2 for this clan. Should have listened to Gummy and disguise ;p

But GG

This doesn't make any sense. You started this clan yourself a long time ago and now you're saying it's dumb to go on with it? Well, you're a bit too late, since you also could have said this BEFORE the tournament started. Such comments are not only unthankful to your warteam, but it's also betraying your own roots.

[Enigma]

DM > us =D

Still, it was a pretty enjoyable game, and I'd like to thank everyone for playing (including Dal even though Unhit showed up in the last second).

[ShadowGPW]

Oooo, Mr. Pro-Gamer wants to run other people's fun.

Reply to SJ's comment: Touché.

no, i just dont like darn stories about nothing. Jezus we lost so what. you dont have to make a whole soap opera about it.

This doesn't make any sense. You started this clan yourself a long time ago and now you're saying it's dumb to go on with it? Well, you're a bit too late, since you also could have said this BEFORE the tournament started. Such comments are not only unthankful to your warteam, but it's also betraying your own roots.

Ive stated this to the team before, if you lack a pro attitude to each other or lack to show up for any reason. Then don't bother to play the tournament, it is only annoying for the supervisor and admins to stay than. Not to mention yourself. Besides we can always drop out...

[Gr33n Pl4nt]

Enigma, Unhit and I sucked equally bad but DM clearly relied on Bob more than on AvK and FS. :D

It must be good to have the answers

[Gr33n Pl4nt]

rotfl, can't believe your still taking this all serieusly man. Especially in a dead game, if it was for me we wouldn't even play a single war anymore, never mind a tournament. But that story you've written about rivals and settle things down. Dude, get real the game is dead and there isn't any major prizes on stack.

And to react on my own clanmates, can't believe you guys fought. Thats the worst thing you could do. Perhaps it was a stupid idea to continue wars in JJ2 for this clan. Should have listened to Gummy and disguise ;p

But GG

G-unit

[Trafton]

Shadow, for someone complaining this is being taken too seriously, you're taking this rather seriously with your whole "pro attitude" thing (whatever that means.)

[Anakin[CC]]

Hah! nice reply Trafton :P

[ShadowGPW]

Shadow, for someone complaining this is being taken too seriously, you're taking this rather seriously with your whole "pro attitude" thing (whatever that means.)

rotfl no man i just dont want clan members to flame each other during the match and that they have to show up before a match. Also that some feelings here are so deep about it that its laughable, everytime i re-read the statement by CraccoBoy gets me a big laughter. If you conclude "pro attitude" out of it is also pretty humor aint it? So shut it before i die of laughing.

[[GpW]Urbs]

I think the reason why Shad is so angry is because CB really made this
into a clash of god knows what. I mean for gods sake, he went to the toilet
for like xxx times before the match, and their team played os much as if
there actually was any prize money(had they played painkiller I think
even voo or fat would be afraid of em;))). But heck I wont complain,
know why? Cuz i got us into this mess, and I wont give up before I
give it my all, cuz thats how we always played, and gods willing thats
how we'll always play. It's not over till the fat man sings. I kinda
agree with shad that this was a bit too much like a soap opera, thats
why I refrained from posting earlier, since I knew I'd have written
something that would on the end turn into an argument. As far as C-C vs
GpW is concerned, well we sucked, and gave in at the end, so GG C-C, if
you're willing to put so much effort in JJ2 u deserved to win. Our
warteam on the other hand was very busy with school, or other goals in
life(u'd be surprised how industrious keleet is...). Plus we couldn't
have fought C-C on a worse level, NA was just the level we hated the
most and still do.
After the C-C match I reacted rather swiftly(should have done this
earlier...), replacin myself as GL and putting SJ(vivando) in my
stead. Why? Simply cuz I believe the GL should be active, cuz he owes
it to the active part of the clan. One thing is for sure though, we
had a bad start, but as I said, we can only get better, at least we'll
go down like lions in battle, rather than cravens watching the battle
from afar. Uhm just one more thing, I would like to admit, ; I've not judged correctly the readiness of the GpW warteam before jj2wc2. Our form wasn't on the level of last years competition and for that I have only myself to blame.
The imperial march might have begun, but still, ours is the fury, hear
us roar!!!!

[Superjazz]

We have become a lot weaker since last jj2wc-season. Nowadays we cannot even wash JSZ 40-1 like we did last season. And I really expected more like a close game of the match with C-C but we lost our powers and everything. Although I don't really hate any levels atm so much I would mind playing in one, still this mappool isn't really my favor for a competition.
Well, you can take this as a complaint but it admits mostly to Urbs' reply.

So, I say this to you teammates, after you've done all important...homework/school, most exams, stuff...Please, likely spend a while with jj2 to train yourself and make the warteam better, especially with better teamwork. I am going to do so as well. Well, I also doubt we will hardly even qualify to knock-out this season, but hopefully we could do better at the next season, if there will be one and if we have enough motivated/non-busy people to play at all and if Shadow will let us play once again. It would feel weird if he's suddenly hating jj2 so much he doesn't even let his other clanmates play. At least I see no reason why we shouldn't play.

[cooba]

rotfl no man i just dont want clan members to flame each other during the match and that they have to show up before a match.You said something else. <do me a favor and ban yourself>

[Gr33n Pl4nt]

.........but we lost our powers and everything.

Power rangers O+

[White Rabbit]

The GpW lion still roars.

[Nielsje]

Pageclaim.

[Chiyu]

Cracco Clan vs. VerSus

Date: 17 April 2005
Score: 13 - 4
Gamemode: Capture The Flag
Rounds: 2

Round 1:
Host: ChippieBW [Si]
Blue Team: Chiyu ÇC - Grytolle ÇC - Vegito ÇC
Red Team: Sasik VS - Sylver VS - CrushWurst VS
Level: Jungle's Edge
Score: 8 for blue, 2 for red

Round 2:
Host: ChippieBW [Si]
Blue Team: Sasik VS - Sylver VS - CrushWurst VS
Red Team: Chiyu ÇC - Grytolle ÇC - Yasco ÇC
Level: Jungle's Edge
Score: 2 for blue, 5 for red

http://www.craccoclan.com/Scoring1.jpg

Comments by Grytolle will be posted soon.

[Grytolle]

Round I: Vegito played, and luckily his teamchat worked today, which made it possible for us to play really good. VS got 2 points. One because I was RTS1 and just had killed both enemies, and screamed "NOW!!!", which resulted in both my teammates going for the kill :p . And one VS point was because of me getting a 3hk.

Round II: Me and Chiyu continued playing very well. But Yasco had some technical problems so he couldnt teamchat enough, which resulted in a few scores still it wasnt a close race. ;)

Overall, GG! GJ team, and ofcourse some credits go to Anakin and Squirrel for training a lot.

Lastly, I would like to second what Chip said in half time. "ÇC will have to do a bloodtest after this." 8D

[White Rabbit]

Chippie beats Gry sooo much when it comes to match reporting. :) And no, you can't disagree Gry. :p

[Sasik]

Well, Congratulation.
We haven't trained lately at all, you are much more active than we, so you won. I've played first time with Sylver & Crush together since many, many months ;P
I think we could beat you, if we would train 3v3 but we didn't =P Also, not everything was fair, and you were quite lucky, but I won't complain, I will say just 'gg'.

[Grytolle]

Correct, you had a fb ;P
GG.
@WR: er? ;P My recordings look better tho ;D

[Anakin[CC]]

GG :P JSZ is next, please show up !

[Nielsje]

Legends Reborn vs. Total Freaks

Hey, hey, another match report by me! As promised (although it's a bit very late) here are the match reports from Legends Reborn versus the Total Freaks, the match which was played last Friday. Ah well, let's start, shall we?

Anyway, at first I wasn't actually going to report this match at all but I was kind of bored (parents away, no friends at home, so I was kinda alone at home) so I joined the pre-game server hosted by Grytolle and I asked (really) if I could do the logging for this one. Of course this was really appreciated, so I got in. Surprisingly, this match started on a decent time: TF was already fully present 10 minutes before the match started! If their results are as good as their timing for this match, they'll pass the group round easily. Anyway, time to start the match…

Round 1
LR = Bspaz, Cruk, Puffie40 (red)
TF = Unhit, Enigma, White Rabbit (blue)

Grytolle decided to do the time recording for this round, so don't blame me if the times are a bit unsharp. Anyway, the match server went up ten minutes before the actual starting time, but thanks to lots of "brb, toilet" and "phone" it took 10 minutes before the actual game could start.

The game started quite good. Both teams were playing very accurate, and flag losses were kept low to the minimum. Both teams played quite defensive, and first 3 minutes went by without scoring. Then, during the fourth minute, LR surprisingly broke open the match with two quick goals by Cruk and Bspaz. After these goals, TF desperately asked for a small time-out, mainly because of lag. The next minutes went by very confusing (Grytolle went brb, and no-one actually knew what to do) but after about 4 minutes, the host returned and the game went on with less lag (maybe that was thanks to me realizing I had three P2P-programmes on, sorry for that) After the time-out, I didn't take long before LR managed to score a third goal by Cruk, and many chances followed without goals. Just before halftime of round 1, LR pulled another one off, thanks to Bspaz again. After 10 minutes of playtime, the score was 4-0 in advantage of LR, breaking all expectations.
For a moment it seemed that the flame of TF was going to die a silent death, but around minute 12, Enigma made the opening goal for TF. A few minutes later, Unhit even managed o make 4-2. Just when it seemed like the match could become quite exciting after all, LR added another goal, thanks to Cruk again. The round seemed to be played for a long time, but during the last 40 seconds Bspaz scored another goal for LR and Enigma did this for TF, about 8 seconds before the end.

http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/images/jjlrvstf.PNG

Results: 6-3 for Legends Reborn

Round 2
LR = Bspaz, Cruk, Puffie40 (blue)
TF = Unhit, Enigma, White Rabbit (red)

Grytolle and me decided to make a small change in the tasks for this match, because (in my honest opinion, of course) the time recording during round 1 wasn't very accurate (was the duration of the time-out 2 minutes? Or 5) so I searched for my stopwatch and we decided to both keep time.

The second round of this match started without much trouble, the only thing that occurred was a time-out of Puffie40 but it didn't really matter after all. The round started at exactly 18:32 GMT, which was 8 minutes after the end of round 1. The match started quite calm again and both teams were playing very defensive. In contrary to round 1, the opening goal wasn't made by someone from LR – it was Enigma again who opened the round by scoring 1-0 for TF, around 3:10. After that, many minues of silence followed due to very defensive play on both sides. The end of this equilibrium came around minute 9, when Cruk scored the first one for LR. The halfway mark passed by, and the total score was 7-4. Thanks to good work of Cruk, LR managed to score 2-1 around minute 11, but this would be also the last goal for LR in the match – however they didn't know it by then. After this goal, I guess TF started to realize what a loss would mean for them and so they started to play much more on the attack. And with results: White Rabbit scored his first goal in this match at 12:20, and Unhit made 3-2 for TF at 14:15. Many minutes of silence followed after this, and it seemed like the game was over and played.
Then suddenly, in the beginning of the 20th minute, Enigma scored again for TF! The total score was 8-7 for LR at that moment, so if TF would manage to score again they would end the game with a tie, which is of course better than a loss. However, LR kept defending their base very well and TF saw no way to score.

http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/images/jjlrvstf2.PNG

Round Results: 4-2 for Total Freaks

Comments by Chips:
"Every round has one match which doesn't seem really interesting in advance. In my opinion, TF vs. LR would be the 'anti-Match of the week' this time. However, it turned out to be a quite nice match after all. The teams were about equal, which resulted in a nice game which became better to watch every minute. The last minute even contained a cliff-hanger which I didn't see in any match of this season before! LR played really good in comparison with earlier matches, and TF, well, they did their best, but I guess their best wasn't simply good enough."

Final Score: 8-7 for Legends Reborn

Top Scorers
LR
Cruk (5x)
Bspaz (3x)

TF
Enigma (4x)
Unhit (2x)
White Rabbit (1x)

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Cracco Clan vs. VerSus
Because I was too lazy to write a whole report for ÇC vs. VS, I'll just stick to a short match-commentary by myself for this one. And I made some screenies too at the end of each round, so let them speak for me…

http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/images/jjccvsvs.PNG

http://jj2wc.ncmv.net/images/jjccvsvs2.PNG

Comments by Chips:
"I heard ÇC say before this match that it would become one of great importance to them. Although I doubt that is true (I don't think JSZ would become a real thread for them and FoR has FoRfeited the first match and I don't know for sure if they'll show up in later matches) this match would certainly be a good one in ÇC's poule. Both clans are in a really good shape recently, and VS has very well shaken off it's image of 'Polish n00b clan' over time. Before the match started, I didn't really expect a really spectacular match and a semi-easy victory for ÇC. During the match, I saw that my expectations were coming true and that ÇC was going to win from VS without much trouble. However, at the end the ÇC members complained that they sucked during the match! I didn't really notice that, because the game went quite smoothly for the Cracco's. However, such statements indicate that ÇC is becoming an overwhelming power force in JJ2 and that they are getting seen as finalist clan more and more. As they like to say, the 'Imperial march' has really begun and it'll take much power from big guys (read: DM) to stop it. To be continued."

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[Grytolle]

Hehe, you are the best reporter without doubt chip =)

[Chiyu]

Agreed.

[Grytolle]

Chip, ÇC needs to win all matches so we don't risk a knockout against DM in semi-finals. Eventhough [si] is a strong clan we still prefer semi-finals against them before against DM. Anyways, that is why our match vs. VS was very important to us. :)

Ohyes, and in that timeout during TF vs LR I removed like 1 GB of music to lessen the lag :roll:

[ShadowGPW]

i'm farting to much

[White Rabbit]

Foo, we SOO did not do our best. ;P

[DarkSonic]

One comment on your long post, Chip :
You said it was 8-7 for Total Freaks but, of course it has to be Legends Reborn. Hehe. =P

[Nielsje]

One comment on your long post, Chip :
You said it was 8-7 for Total Freaks but, of course it has to be Legends Reborn. Hehe. =P

Fixed ;-)

[$tilettø]

i dunno why tf still play this game only ruining a good reputation imo same with gpw -_-

[Superjazz]

Would say that worse reputation is quitting this game for no reason than playing it still...doh.

[Grytolle]

Right SJ.

[Grytolle]

Chippie beats Gry sooo much when it comes to match reporting. And no, you can't disagree Gry. Ohyeah?! Well, maybe you are right... But I'll do my best to prove you wrong. :) Here follows the report for the JJ2WCII match:

VerSus vs. Gurus of proactive Warfare
ChippeBW was supposed to host this clanwar from the beginning, but when I joined the pregame-server, it appeared that R3ptile hadn't managed to get a host, or perhaps that he hadn't informed Chip about the changes in the hosting-schedule (same thing with the match I was supposed to host this weekend, LB vs. DM). Anyways, the game started pretty much on the scheduled time, though Messiah joined the pregame a little too late. When all players, including R3ptile had joined the server, the lineups were as follows:

Round I
http://img256.echo.cx/img256/7043/blueedited7ap.gif [GpW]Urbs, Messiah[GpW] and V!V@ND0[GpW]
http://img214.echo.cx/img214/7813/rededited5ys.gif CloudVS, Sasik[VS] and Nunez VS

Sooner or later the game started off, today with a host equipped with a stopwatch. No scores came immidiatly. It took until 1:27 (min:sec) 'til the first score was made, for VS, by Sasik. VS didn't manage to seriously alter the game-balance, though, so the game kept going without any scores, a few E-kills but no real chances.

At 3:47 a spambug (no, I won't call it flagbug, that is what happens when you die at base) occured, I was too sloppy to note for whom, but the player rejoined and I counted off again.

Only a few seconds after the game had begun, once again, the next score was done, this time by Nunez. Cloud was ready at GpW's base. and thus managed to get the flag immidiatly after Nunez had scored, so Sasik and Nunez had an easy time defending base the short time needed (already at 4:35 this was scored) for Cloud to run through the level and score and thus making the total score 3-0 for VS.

The game went on smoothly for a while, with one major chance for GpW, through Messiah, to score, where it took about 3 seconds for VS to recapture. At 7:02 Messiah had to rejoin, due to another Spambug (this is a level-bug, according to the players at the time in my server). And not too soon after (7:43) Sasik scored 4-0 for VS, but the game remained relatively stabile, and it took until 9:03 for the next score to come, once again by Sasik. VS defended their base well, and Cloud quickly followed with another score at 09:53, making the total score 6-0. Things were indeed looking dark for the Gurus, that seem to have fallen behind a lot since last season where they managed to get to playoffs.

However, the Gurus are still a good clan, and never give up without a fight. They struggled on bravely and a few minutes later (at 11:00) Messiah made his first score ever in JJ2WC, litting new hope for GpW. Urbs and Messiah managed to keep the upper hand long enough for Vivando to make the score 6-2 at 11:50.

At 12:25 the game had to stop for a while, since Urbs got stuck at start and Nunez had to answer his phone. I counted off and the game was on again for about a minute (actually at 13:05), when Vivando had to answer his phone (keep them turned off (-)(-)(-), or let your parents take the call! :roll: ).

Almost exactly one minute after the game had started off again (14:03) Nunez scored for VS and 16 seconds later R3ptile left the server saying he would be back about 30 minutes later. Four seconds after that, at 16:23, one player from each team got stuck at their starting positions and had to rejoin.

The whole period between 14:03, when Nunez had scored, and 17:03, where he scored again was very hectical but noone managed to get the upper hand and score. As I mentioned, though, Nunez did score at 17:03 making the score 8-2. And at 18:15 Sasik scored another point for VS followed by a counter-strike by Urbs, evening the score out a little to 9-3, at 19:29. And a at 19:36 Messiah completed the score, making it 9-4 at 19:36, whereafter the game was stopped for a few seconds (someone had to brb or something... whatever! ;)), and the last 20 seconds passed after another count-off.

Top Scorers, round I:
1. Sasik[VS] with 4 scores.
2. Nunez VS with 3 scores.
3. Messiah[GpW] with 2 scores.
3. CloudVS with 2 scores.
4. SuperJazz aka. V!V@ND0[GpW] with 1 score.
4. [GpW]Urbs with 1 score.

Screenshots:
Right before the start of round I
http://img10.echo.cx/img10/1107/startround18ho.png


Round II
http://img256.echo.cx/img256/7043/blueedited7ap.gif Nunez VS, Sasik[VS] and CloudVS
http://img214.echo.cx/img214/7813/rededited5ys.gif[GpW]Urbs, SuperJazz[GpW] and Messiah[GpW]

Round II started off in R3ptile's absence a little later than I had hoped, since lots of people had to "go"...

However, I counted off and a fast first score was done, opening the round, by Sasik at 00:35 quickly followed by another score by Cloud, due to a flagbug. The score was counted though, in the name of justice, since Messiah had done the same somewhere in round I.

At 1:39 Urbs got stuck so the game paused, and I suspect that GpW took the opportunity of discussing some tactics, slash giving some orders, because shortly after the game had started again (at 2:02), SuperJazz (yes, he changed nick in the pause :+ ), scored 2-1. Which was quickly followed by a nice comeback for VS, through Sasik, increasing VS's lead to 12-5 in total. Nunez rapidly scored another point at 2:54.

The game stabilized itself for a while and the time passed until 5:10, when Cloud scored 5-1 for VS, thus making the total score 14-5. And once again VS proved their good teamwork by letting another score be made shortly after, this time by Sasik (time: 05:30).

After this followed a short period of more lag than before, where people complained about a few 3hk's et cetera. Luckliy none of those had any particuliar impact on the outcome af the game, since no scores were made, so I stopped the game for a while, to remove som lag by setting a higher process priority for Jazz2.exe, which seemed to have done its job well, becasue after that noone complained about lag again. This, however, made my Cataclysm stopping to work fully, so I had to move away from the base I was spectating from down to a more... not-in-action sort of area, since I seemed to spontaneoulsy attract seekers from the red team.

After the two minutes of pause, I counted off again and 6 seconds later, at 06:50, Nunez scored 7-1 (roundscore), quickly followed by a nice comeback by Messiah making the roundscore 7-2 at 07:29. However, Sasik made a comeback on the comeback( :7) at 07:47, regaining the lead by 11 points.

Overall, this period of the game was very hectical and very nice to spectate. There was lots of scores and both teams seemed to play an entertaining, offensive game.

About a minute after Sasik's latest score, at 08:50, Nunez made another one that was quickly followed by a comeback for GpW, by Superjazz, making the roundscore 10-3. However, it took but 1 minute for Sasik to reply at 10:36, and 20 seconds later another score, by Nunez followed making the total score 21-7, in other words a lead by 14 points for VS.

An, under the conditions, long period of pointlessness (never mind correcting me, you know it is possible to say it that way ;)) followed, until Nunez scored again at 12:42. Superjazz scored at 13:24 and Urbs at 15:02, proving that there still be some strength in the Gurus. Anyways, Sasik quickly replied at 15:20, making the roundscore 14-5.

At 16:00, sharp, R3ptile entered the server to check how much time that was left (the pregame for GpW vs. FoR was already up!) and disappeared again quickly after. At 16:12 Sasik got a Spambug and had to rejoin and shortly after Sasik, the same one(!!), scored 15-5 at 16:40. Nunez quickly scored another point at 17:03, making the score 16-5. But after that something quite, under the circumstances, unexpected happened... GpW made 3 scores in a row, and hadn't the lead been so overwhelming, or the time so short, I would have started to believe GpW were gonna manage to make an amazing comeback and win the game, because it really did look promising when Messiah scored 16-6 at 17:40, Superjazz 16-7 at 18:45 and Messiah (he did well today =O) at 19:12, making the roundscore 16-8 and the total score 25-12. However, GpW ran out of time, and VS managed to regain the upper hand and Sasik completed the, not totally expected, victory at 19:50, making the final roundscore 17-8 and the total score 26-12. (I needen't say that the last 10 seconds passed without any real action, now do I? :))

Top Scorers, round II:
1. Sasik[VS] with 8 scores.
2. Nunez VS with 7 scores.
3. Superjazz[GpW] with 4 scores.
4. Messiah[GpW] with 3 scores.
5. CloudVS with 2 scores.
6. [GpW]Urbs with 1 score.

Screenshots:
The start of round II
http://img209.echo.cx/img209/5010/startofround29bq.png

End of the game
http://img223.echo.cx/img223/7093/lastgg8xw.png

Top Scorers, the entire game
1. Sasik[VS] with 12 scores.
2. Nunez VS with 10 scores.
3. Messiah[GpW] with 5 scores.
3. SuperJazz aka. V!V@ND0[GpW] with 5 scores.
4. CloudVS with 4 scores.
5. [GpW]Urbs with 2 scores.

Closing comments:
Thus ended the JJ2WCII-match between the polish noob-clan VerSus ( ;-)) and the oldest, or second oldest, noone really seem to know the truth, clan on jj2 - the Gurus of proactive Warfare. It might appear that this would be the end of an era, but judging from GpW's performaces against FoR later the same evening, the question what clans are the best seems to have to remain unanswered. Good game.

[Nielsje]

gg no re. :p

By the way, I did inform R3ptile about the fact that I was gone (I believe I did that Tuesday already) and I won't be able to host/comment matches from the fifth round anyway.

[Sasik]

We pwned GpW & Gry pwned Chip XD
gg.

[White Rabbit]

<s>Nah, Chippie pwns Gry. Gry's comments are sterile, uninspired, hardly exciting and he mentions so many boring stuff. Yawn.</s>

This is the best Grytolle commentary ever!!!!! :D :D :lol:


I'm sry to hear about GpW's loss...

[R3ptile]

By the way, you aren't supposed mention stuff like "R3ptile suddenly disappeared" or "collecting ammo took ages" in your reports.

[Grytolle]

Why not?
Everyone cares about you, you know ;) They wanna hear it :p

EDIT: Do all the reports by yourself then :7

[R3ptile]

Do all the reports by yourself then :7
Nah, that's the cup admins' job ;)

[Grytolle]

My point exactly ;-D

[Gr33n Pl4nt]

Inactivity, idling, sleeping owns jj2

[Nielsje]

Cracco Clan vs. Legendary Blades

The second semi-finals, of the second season of JJ2WC. How nice. This match would be played between LB (who did a surprising good job by defeating clans like [si] in the group round, thus placing itself in the semi-finals) and C'C, the Cracco's, who are on their way to the final part of their "Imperial March". Anyway, it's time to start off with this report…

First about the pregame, as usual. About 25 minutes before the actual game time I launched the pregame server, with the level "Security Breach v2" by BlurredD as war map (the same map as DM vs. VS) One by one, the players entered the server and a few minutes before 18:00 GMT everyone was gathered, including the supervisor for this match, R3ptile. Thanks to the fact that everyone was in before time, the match could begin a little earlier.

Round 1
LB = Shaney, Master Sven, IronLight (red)
C'C = Anakin, Yasco, Chiyu (blue)

It took however a while before everyone was in place. Many wrong joiners and unclearness about who would play for C'C (alright, it was also a bit my fault…) and several disputes between C'C and LB members (mostly in Dutch, so I could actually post it here without getting it removed probably :p) the game could finally begin at 18:09, after several warnings by the cupadmin and supervisor.
R3ptile wanred my several times to not ask who scored during the match, but insubordinate as I am (hehe) I asked it anyway, and most of the time I got response, although I couldn't identify every single one of the many goals. Indeed, "many". This game turned real soon into a complete fragfest for both clans, because both clans decided to work with an offensive strategy (C'C probably mainly because they didn't see any thread from their enemy so they could play pretty offensive, and LB because… well, just because they're LB)

The first minute went by pretty balanced, however Chiyu opened the game pretty quickly with a goal after 58 seconds of playtime. Yasco then again scored 2-0 at 1.35, and another one at 2.30, quickly followed by Anakin's first goal at 2.55. It already started to look like the Cracco's would rage over the Blades like a rhino over a cream pie, but the game seemed to stabilize for a while. Then again, Chiyu and Anakin scored their second goal at 5.00 and 5.15, making the total already 6-0 in advance of the Cracco's. A while later, the only goals of LB were scored: two quick ones by IronLight. After that, C'C quickly reformed and they started to continue their offensive albeit alert strategy. This neat combination resulted in a goal by Yasco at 7.20, followed by a hattrick of Chiyu (7.35 – 8.01 – 8.44, and even a fourth one at 9.10) C'C seemed to be unstoppable because Yasco and Chiyu scored AGAIN even before halftime, making it 13-2. I started to wonder and realise that this could actually become the first match with a victory before endtime. Thanks to another goal from Yasco at 10.15, this feeling even got stronger. Chiyu scored another one at 11.27, but from then the game became quite stable again (if you can call 15-2 "stable") Anyway, the next C'C goals came at 14.04 and 14.42, scored by Yasco and Chiyu again.

Then, the trouble started. It happened very fast, so I couldn't completely follow it myself (I was too busy writing all the goals of C'C down, to be honest) but for some reason Chiyu managed to stuck himself around 15.30 and the game was paused. According to the rules of JJ2WC, players can't move in a paused situation except when it's really necessary. Master Sven of LB however moved on so Shaney asked him polite on teamchat to stop moving. R3ptile, the supervisor, didn’t get this completely and asked in public "Who was moving?" Shaney answered too quickly and, probably accidentally, used to word "idiot" in his answer to R3ptile, thus insulting the supervisor. R3ptile asked him to apologize a few times, and Shaney agreed to do this directly after the match, which seems a logical solution (Chiyu even confirmed he said "I do apologize" during the actual match) The match went on, but R3ptile wasn't satisfied with this so he decided to abort the match at 16.20, giving C'C a forfeit win with 20-2. After this, serious fights started inside the server (mostly in Dutch again) first against Shaney's stupidity, but later on also about the supervisor and between the two clans. R3ptile wanted to start the second round (I was unable to host the second round) but LB wasn't able to find a third player because Shaney was kicked.

The results? LB left the tournament, and a few minutes later the staff of LB decided to shut down to whole clan. Most of the LB members already decided to move over to C'C and some stopped. C'C leaves this match with mixed feelings: happy because of the fact that they reached the finals and unhappy about the way how they did this. LB is dead, and DM automatically wins the third place in JJ2WC2. Congratulations.

Match comments by players:
Shaney: "This is a sad day for our clan. Not only we lost the first round of the match due to a forfeit loss, but because of this the clan is unable to stay alive any longer. This is already the third time R3ptile gives us something like this: in the first match Saddam was banned because R3p thought he was Vegito, although it later appeared he wasn't a faker. We would have won that match, but now it was an equal score. Later, a match was postponed 30 minutes because [si] didn't show up although we should have won by forfeit. And now this! This season is tinted with power abuse. We don't really care about a loss from C'C, but in this way, we lost without honour."

Chiyu: "I have mixed feelings about this victory. Of course it's logical that you don't insult a supervisor during a match, but Shaney offered to apologize after the match. The way things went during this match wasn't smooth and especially if you look at the things that happened with LB before during this JJ2WC it's sad that they leave the tournament like this. I'm happy that C'C can advance to the finals, but it was definitely a victory with a bitter taste."

ChippieBW: "This is surely a black day in the history books of JJ2WC. While all the group matches went smoothly and without any major problems (except some logical forfeit losses and some lag) this is truly an embarrassing match for the whole JJ2WC organization. Sure, it was stupid to say "idiot" to a supervisor but I don't think a match should be cancelled directly. It shows that such a tournament can be based on emotional reactions, which it shouldn’t be. It's sad that it happened to LB again, and that the clan is now dead because of it. I already expected C'C to fight VS finals, but not this way."

Results: 17-2 for Cracco Clan, due to a forfeit loss raised to 20-2.

Top Scorers
C'C
Chiyu (9x)
Yasco (6x)
Anakin (2x)

LB
IronLight (2x)

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Free for distribution purposes.

[Chiyu]

Hmmm... Although we weren't using our best SBv2 team, we did pretty well (hooray I'm topscorer ;D). I admit that we already expected to win this clanwar, but I didn't expect <b>this</b>.

I'm disappointed. Chippie has pretty much summed up my thoughts about this. Sure, LB wasn't the most popular clan around but they were one of the oldest (I believe right after CÇ and GpW) and it sucks to see them disolve because of this. Although I can completely understand and respect their decision. 'Tis a black day in the history books of JJ2WC indeed.

Congrats to DM for getting the third place I guess... But even a bigger congratulation for the Legendary Blades, one of the underdogs of the tournament that made it all the way to the semi-finals with all odds against them and <b>still</b> get the fourth place on JJ2WCII.

[R3ptile]

Shaney's comment: [si] didn't show up? Wow dude that's a lie. You weren't even presented in that match, don't make up things now.

Chippie's comment: Trust me, in other cups like Clanbase, CAL and GGL, Shaney would most likely get banned forever after attacking a cup admin (or in this case the supervisior, which is even worse). "A black day"? You're too dramatic man, such things always happen in online tournaments, and however the match was very one-sided assuming LB didn't use their best lineup.

Cursing and flaming are not acceptable. If I were Shaney, I would apologize and stay quiet after his abusive behavior.

[SkulL]

I have a thing to say about this as well, although you may think I'm not involved but since this is JJ2WC related thing.

Chippie: R3ptile is right,and I agree with him, I might not know so much about online pro cups like he does but flaming a cupadmin?! the one who does that must have some big nuts over there, Besides, R3p has done fair judgement of shaney.

and Shaney you asked me to ban Spybunny? are you sure he's the one deserve to be banned or you are? I find your attiude very rude,please apologize.

[Enigma]

Geez, people. Less hatred, more love. This is just a game, remember? Lots of people participating in this tournament have seemed so nervous and touchy for its duration. Calm down a bit, will you?

[[GpW]Urbs]

Ehh well, as usual there is more ways to view at the matter at hand. I gues shaney should have apologized, and if he did, reptile should have forgiven him and let him play.... But heck, I gues the perfect scenario never works now does it?

[Superjazz]

Not a really wise idea to flame someone who has created something to give yourself honor, Shaney. I mean that Rep mainly created JJ2wc after Ins0mnia got tired on the idea and as the whole tournament has given a couple of victories for Shaney's clan and all, why did Shaney begin a personal attack against Rep. However, I wonder that if Shaney already apologized, then what was still wrong there he couldn't continue playing?

Something additional I even remember LB was about to challenge GpW into a clanwar but as GpW itself is already half-dead and LB 100% dead due to the things at their last match, this match will surely not be played, duh. Although I don't find a cw necessary atm.

[Superjazz]

Pageclaim. 8D

[Nielsje]

Chippie: R3ptile is right,and I agree with him

No way!! Really? :rolleyes:

Anyway, this was just my view on the match and I see no reason to edit/remove it. Thank you. :)

[R3ptile]

Chippie and I had some disagreements and he decided to turn http://jj2wc.ncmv.net off (or at least remove my FTP access). Yell at him if you have any complaints.

[FQuist]

It's his decision wether to extend the courtesy of hosting your website to you, I take. However, taking your access down like this is not very transparant of Chippie. There's no notice on the site that it's not supported officially anymore (which I assume) and people are used to going to that domain name, which may confuse people a lot. At least add a redirect to another site or something, or an explaination of the situation. This serves no-one.

[Nimrod]

Chippie and I had some disagreements and he decided to turn http://jj2wc.ncmv.net off (or at least remove my FTP access). Yell at him if you have any complaints.

I'm not surprised he did, the way you treated a good team member who’s a great asset to the tournament.

Perhaps consider keeping valuable team members in the team, and keep your personal feelings to yourself.

Or......

Perhaps consider resigning and letting someone else have a go.


R3ptile is right,and I agree with him
(Bloody hell, who would have expected that! :o )

Yep and the fact that you always agree with him is exactly the reason why he chose you to be his co-supervisor.




(Oh and people, dont yell at Chippie about the site, Yell at Reptile)

[FQuist]

(Warning: everyone, keep it civil. No swearing or personal attacks, or flame tags. You can consider yourselves warned, and cannot plead ignorance of this rule when posting.)

[Grytolle]

I don't know really... Rep was a great suervisor to keep everything going for this long, but on the other hand, Chip was the best cupadmin he had, I think he was the one to host the most matches, and playing with him as referee was always very enjoyable. The guy even made a report for one of the matches that I hosted. Sad thing they can't get along - about as sad as disqualifying Shaney.

[R3ptile]

Well, I asked Bobby if J2O could host JJ2WC instead of Chip... *crosses his fingers*

[Vegito]

I missed something, I guess.. :|
I agree that Chip was the best cupadmin this tournament had...
but omg, who cares, its only my opinion.

And I think that R3ptile WAS a good supervisor..
but things can go wrong.
actually, you shouldn't have ANY personal feelings when your a supervisor or cupadmin.
Best thing was that the one who made this tournament, did not play at all in the tournament, nor his clan. (Its no pa.)
omg but what the hell. then the organizer can think "hmm, I like that clan, so I give that clan some advantage"
It's no use to discuss this..

To many things can happen..

YaY for internet tournaments.. >_< I am sure one will go fine though.
and omg (-)(-)(-)? lets just play the final, end the tournament, nobody will care anymore. :P

Just ignore my post :P .... And love and peace to everyone =P

[Nielsje]

I posted some news at the JJ2WC site to clear things up.

[R3ptile]

What? Personal feelings? What are you talking about? I had my own reasons to kick Chippie out of JJ2WC's crew and only various people know them. I thank Chippie for being a great cup admin and spending lots of time with his match logs, but we simply didn't get along.

About the match between LR and [si]: Don't you people get it? Both teams didn't have three available players after 15 minutes and the match admin was gone, then we simply had to wait couple of minutes untill all those problems were solved. Now stop spreading rumors about me being a power-abuser or something like that.

[Vegito]

People should know the truth, R3ptile.
thats all I can say. The rest is up to you.

[Sasik]

Looks like everything is going to crash. However, JJ2WC is a good tournament, I know that it is hard to organize clan tournament, but I hope that Rep will manage with troubles and everything will go fine...
Also I hope that the final will be a fair match -_-'...

[White Rabbit]

It's disappointing to see yet another clan die as a result of a JJ2WC tournament.