Jazz 2 Episodes

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I've been wondering something:
How do you make episodes for Jazz 2? I've wanted to know for a while yet can't find the answer?
EDIT: Answers found.

[cooba]

With a SUPER SECRET PROGRAM.

[JelZe GoldRabbit]

I've been wondering something:
How do you make episodes for Jazz 2? I've wanted to know for a while yet can't find the answer?

I assume you're talking about how to make them like the official ones. There's a special tool for that, unfortunately the name and who may own it both escape me. All you need is a logo and a big picture for it. However, JJ2 can only handle so many episode files before it crashes.

You're better off just linking the levels with eachother and setting the last one to "endepis".

- JelZe GoldRabbit =:3

[Violet CLM]

http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/articles/view.php?articleID=145

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I read that. I just need the program. I thought someone here might have it. I mean, I got Jazz Ski Rabbit from here. :cool:
EDIT:I got it, thanks everybody!

[n00b]

Well Jazz Ski Rabbit was a fangame, this is a program which few have and do not want wish to distribute, otherwise we'd have 2000 episode files running around when jazz2 can only use so many)

[EvilMike]

I've been wondering something:
How do you make episodes for Jazz 2? I've wanted to know for a while yet can't find the answer?

How about you don't.

[Blade Nightflame]

Sometimes, you're better off if you don't make a .J2E files, if I remember correctly. Only CERTAIN authors get that program if they have made an excellent level. Lost World for example, one of them..

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I don't care why I should or shouldn't get it. I've thought it over and this is what I want. So can somebody post it on J2O or something? (Thanks)

[LittleFreak]

No.

J2E files are more annoying than helpful, like it or not.

[blurredd]

I like the high quality policy. I can't really argue with it, as unfair as it sounds to newer JCS users.

[LittleFreak]

It's maybe unfair, but if it wasn't there J2O would get flooded with thousands of episodes with j2e files.

@ Zapper: The problem is, if you are given the programm, everyone else wants it too.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Then why don't we just make a "no posting J2E files" rule for J2O? And I've had Jazz 2 since I was about 8, been making ok levels since I was 9, and I've played J2E's worse than my episode I am making right now. (At least from my point of view.) So, why not give it out? It makes perfect sense to me.

[cooba]

WHY do you need it anyway? Most good levelpacks out there do not use a .j2e.

[Blackraptor]

I dont even care much about J2Es either. Most of the time I delete them cause they clog up the episode list.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Why do I care about Jazz 2? Why care about this forum? Because I like them. They give me easy acess to level packs without trying to go, "Is this the starting level?" That's really it. I delete them myself too, but I would still like to get the program to make them. (Besides, if I'm correct, you can make your own version of JJ2 with your own level packs.)

[WvA]

will be cool... my episode is bigger than 8 levels i must say :p

[n00b]

Can't you just make an external launcher ala FSP?

[Ðx]

ask violet for i i guess..

WvA, my episode has over the 30 levels with 300-200

[Violet CLM]

ask violet for i i guess..

It's a .bat file. Open it in notepad and make one yourself.

[Torkell]

I think one of the main reasons against episode files is they can be confusing for new users, when after unzipping the 4th (or whatever the limit is) level pack with a j2e file inside JJ2 starts crashing on the episode screen. It's probably good enough to *sensibly* use the home-cooked level list (i.e. have only the first level of your episode appear in it, name that file according to 8.3 conventions and give it a good name so people know what it is).

[Violet CLM]

It's probably good enough to *sensibly* use the home-cooked level list (i.e. have only the first level of your episode appear in it, name that file according to 8.3 conventions and give it a good name so people know what it is).
Which is a good idea, except I think my list was full back in 2001.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I've been using this game for a while. How bout this:
1.You guys give me the episode maker.
2.You make a "no posting episode" thing.
3.I don't post episodes.

I really just want it for personal use. That's all. So can somebody please give me the episode maker?

P.S. Thanks > DX < for offering.

[Baggers]

If your episode is quality then sell it to us
What i mean by that is tell use more, post screenshots and videos; Show us whats really cool and inovitive about it.
Thats the only way this side of hell your going to get it from these guys.

[ThunderPX]

It's a .bat file. Open it in notepad and make one yourself.

Something like "jazz2.exe blah.j2l"?

[Torkell]

I've been using this game for a while. How bout this:
1.You guys give me the episode maker.
2.You make a "no posting episode" thing.
3.I don't post episodes.

I really just want it for personal use. That's all. So can somebody please give me the episode maker?

P.S. Thanks > DX < for offering.
Ah, I see now. I've got nothing against you using it for private use only, but remember that there is a limit on how many episode files you can have in the JJ2 folder (I think it's 8 for 1.21-1.23, might be more for TSF).

If you want to upload a single player levelpack here with an episode file, then it should be worthy of having its own episode file. It's not up to me to decide that, but I'd guess if you're levelpack gets rated above 9 on average then you'd get away with it.

[NeonPSY]

What those a-people said. Although, I realy wish someone made a Tomb Rabbit one. Maybe there will be one after Tomb Rabbit 2?

[ShadeJackrabbit]

So will I get it? Or not? I might bring out a video of the bosses soon. Even though they are really bad. But as I said, I only want the episode maker for personal use.

[ThunderPX]

I can't reply anymore for some reason! o_O

EDIT: Ah, it works now. Weird. Never mind.

EDIT2: There's something about my question I want to ask that it doesn't work! (-)?

EDIT3: Whoa, this is weird. Let me try again:
Is it possible to edit existing episode files?

[Violet CLM]

EDIT3: Whoa, this is weird. Let me try again:
Is it possible to edit existing episode files?
It's easy enough to edit which level they point to... like 5Alive.

[ThunderPX]

Yes, but is it possible to edit the order of the episodes, like for example: put TSF after Funky Monkeys or after HCL instead of at the top?

[ShadeJackrabbit]

So, does anybody have the JJ2 Episode Maker?

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I would like to remind everybody I am still here. I would apreciate even a "I had it but lost it," or maybe a "I don't know where to put." I just want to know who has this and who can get it to me!

[LittleFreak]

I don't have it nor do I know who you could get it from. Sorry.

[n00b]

I once knew the name of who had it, but I forgot all knowledge from August-Early october 2004 except Jazz and Spaz in: Time Warp!

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Does anyone know what it is called?

[Violet CLM]

Please pay attention when we say that almost nobody has it.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I am paying attention! Just most of you are acting like you have it or know everything about it!

[CrimiClown]

I am sorry, I know <s>a lot</s> nothing about it and <s> have it somewhere in my main folder</s> don't have it.

:) Am I confusing enough? :p

[blurredd]

You could also try directly asking those who have custom j2e files.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I already asked authors of Putrid Monkey Strikes Back! And The Lost World episode yet neither have given it to me. Who else has it?

EDIT:Pageclaim!

[blurredd]

Try asking the author of Time Tripping, but if he can't <!-- or won't --> help you, then you might be out of luck.

[LittleFreak]

I don't think Violet will give it to you, but you could at least try.

[cooba]

I don't think Violet will give it to you, but you could at least try.Seeing as he doesn't have it, I doubt it as well.

.j2e2 files > all.

[LittleFreak]

If he doesn't have it, how could he make the j2e-file for Time Tripping?

[cooba]

Who says that he was the one to make a .j2e?

[LittleFreak]

I asumed so.

[Stijn]

I find it wonderful how you always talk in riddles and need several posts to share a small piece of information with your fellow forum visitors. At least you give the impression to know everything but don't want to share tour intel.

Anyway, Cell has it too, I believe.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Is it possible to PM every single user of J20 and JCF?

[Stijn]

Is it possible to PM every single user of J20 and JCF?
If you'd do that I hope you'd get banned.

No, it isn't, unless you want to send (total number of JCF users/5) PMs with the same text.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

DX did it. (If he was the one PMing about his forum.)

EDIT: Now here's a real question: Why won't people give it out? Even if we made tons of rules like getting banned if you hosted a J2E of rating less than 8. It makes no sense. :confused:

[LittleFreak]

DX did it. (If he was the one PMing about his forum.)

You mean on J2O? It's possible to select as many users as you want there. It's not as easy on the JCF though.

Now here's a real question: Why won't people give it out? Even if we made tons of rules like getting banned if you hosted a J2E of rating less than 8. It makes no sense. :confused:

If they give it to you, others want it aswell.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

So what!? If others want it, let them have it!

[LittleFreak]

If everybody has it J2O will get flooded with bad packs using custom j2e files.

[n00b]

We're going around in circles here. And pretty soon ZAPPER will reply with:
"Have a rule that bans .j2e packs on J2O!" or some rule like that.

[LittleFreak]

You're right. It won't lead to anything, thus I'll stop argueing. I don't have the programm anyways.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

2 nOOb: Did you read the previous posts? I already said that!

All right, If I post my pack, and it deserves a custom J2E file, (for whatever reason), will you give it to me? I would then rerelease it as a J2E. Deal?

P.S. My levelpack will be over 30 levels most likely because of switching between planets.

[n00b]

EXACTLY! What I'm saying is we're going in circles, because someone has ALREADY said that everyone will want the .j2e creator and flood the J2O downloads the .j2e files!
MAN! People need to pay attention.

[Sonyk]

Zapper, odds are you will never get this J2E creator. Mainly because of the fact that no one has it.

Yes, that's right. No one has it. The really nice levels go to Epic, and they make it for us. And then, they make all these JJ2 patches you hear so much about.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

@ nOOb: And you need to listen to me!

EDIT: And I think nobody else wants it because I am the only one who asked for it.

[n00b]

It's maybe unfair, but if it wasn't there J2O would get flooded with thousands of episodes with j2e files.

@ Zapper: The problem is, if you are given the programm, everyone else wants it too.

Then why don't we just make a "no posting J2E files" rule for J2O? And I've had Jazz 2 since I was about 8, been making ok levels since I was 9, and I've played J2E's worse than my episode I am making right now. (At least from my point of view.) So, why not give it out? It makes perfect sense to me.

And recently:
If everybody has it J2O will get flooded with bad packs using custom j2e files.

Which is why I said you'd post something like that because obviously we are running in circles.

And finnaly: Give up. I had reasons here but they may offend you, and NO ONE wants to read that many caps locked letters in a row about something relating to a bunny game.

[Violet CLM]

I do not have the episode maker program. If you can wait a few days, I will try to help you - and everyone else, I guess - with this, but I can't promise anything.

[White Rabbit]

I think the idea that withholding a JJ2 episode creating program is a bit selfish (at the exact same level as withholding the automated foo hotel program). How much harm does it actually do?

This program has nothing to do with me. I don't even want it and I can't think up a reason why I should want it. Zapper's need for this program has also got nothing to do with me, but I am too shocked and angered by what I've seen you guys write in this thread that I have no choice but to defend Zapper's request. I know this is program is copyrighted by someone, and I know that it is up its creator to choose who gets his program. However, if this program is supposed to be in such few hands, the situation is in desperate need for a change.

'The pen can be used for such a wide variety of beautiful writing, but few ppl can actually write well with it. The rest just use it to doodle on their exercise books and write total crap and nonsense. To prevent this, the freely available pen should now be exclusively available only for good writers, and those who do own one are encouraged to protect it, for personal use only, at all times.'

This is ridiculous. If the program is legal and not used for, say, cheating in multiplayer, distribute it, don't keep it to yourself. The community is small enough as it is, and these programs are only drawing useless boundaries between its members: those who have it, and those who don't. So what, if the episodes people release is soooo awfully, awfully bad? I think some of the newer lvls are of pretty disgusting quality too, but they are not mine, they are someone else's, someone who deserves a right to do what they want to do. Some newer lvl creators are so worried that what they do is not good enough, that they actually steal good ideas, and even lvls, from others rather than make their own. If they think that these tools help them, then let them have what they want. If someone won't stand up for them, who will? Me? What can I do? This is a fundamental problem that needs to be amended by, and for, the community, and it's not just something lying there, waiting for some individual to come and solve it.

[LittleFreak]

^^^

Agreed. I still don't have it though.

[Torkell]

The main arguement I've heard against distributing the episode maker is that JJ2 can only handle a small amount of episodes before it crashes (8 I think). This would be very confusing for people new to the game, when after unzipping another level pack JJ2 refuses to work properly.

Then again, you get people who upload levels to J2O and mark them all as "hide from home cooked levels", or even worse, mark none of them as "hide from home cooked levels" and use great big 50-character filenames. And then password them, so you can't clean up the mess without deleting the levels. Oh, and then they forget some tilesets, but don't tell you, so you only find out when you're halfway through the pack and JJ2 dies on you.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

To White Rabbit and LittleFreak: Thanks for actually sticking up for me.

EDIT: To BoggyB: I completely agree. I've had problems like that.

To all: The point is, White Rabbit is right. Just because someones not good doesn't mean that they shouldn't get something. This reminds me of my school. I'm not good at say.... baseball, so nobody wants me to play and everybody wants to point that out. Nobody wants to help though. To put it more extreme then with pens, heres another scenario:

A guy is bad at keeping his house clean, so the government takes it away, and now he is homeless, sleeping in a box, scrounging for fries in a garbage can.

Extreme, yet getting the point across. And if someone has special needs, you don't leave them in the dark and surround those with good gestures who are completely fine. That's mean. I know I am just repeating White Rabbit but he's got a good point!

[Violet CLM]

It's hard not to withhold a program you don't have, White Rabbit. And I had no idea announcer was being private. I send it to anyone who aks me for it... which, admittedly, is nobody.

*doesn't read the foo products forums very often*

[White Rabbit]

There was a whole thread, with screenshots just to make ppl drool, about the Announcer in the Fooproducts forums, before it got updated or something.

And besides, I was really writing for everyone and for all JJ-related programs, not simply trying to convince a select few to make their .j2e creators more easily available.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

What's the Announcer?

[cooba]

What's the Announcer?The Announcer.

[LittleFreak]

You're telling me.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Stop talking riddles!

EDIT: I think there should be a rule about talking in riddles. DON'T

[Sonyk]

The announcer is a program developed by people who I will kepe names withheld. It's a program that simply tracks when rabbits reach a certain set of coordinates. It then logs it, and if you have the option set, will announce it in game. (Through the player who is using it.) However, the logs it makes are rather buggy and are often inaccurate.

And if anyone bothered to read that article, they would see the argument about why it's a good idea to keep it under wraps. In fact, I shall quote it.

Well, we can only hope not. Think about all the bad ideas and hopes and dreams it would spawn.

The hotel version, if released, would do just as Black Ninja said. So, would you want a buch of **** hotels made from a Hotel Heroes tileset + the announcer, or would you just rather see a few good hotels using the program with their own tilesets, original ideas, etc? I personally, vote the latter.

Heck, just think on what would happen to the already disliked TSF community. I can see a downward spiral on people's liking of TSF already. Oh, the humanity.

And if anyone cares to see it, you're welcome to right here: http://fooproducts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=102

[LittleFreak]

Stop talking riddles!

EDIT: I think there should be a rule about talking in riddles. DON'T

Cooba always speaks like that. No one ever figured out why though.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I'm going away for 2 weeks, so please don't expect an answer.

[n00b]

I think there should be a rule about talking in riddles. DON'T
That would be the dumbest rule ever.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

No, it would make things easier. (And I meant excluding the War Tavern and miscellaneous and forum games sections.)

[NeonPSY]

What we realy need is like..the source code for jazz 2 then have like a scroll bar for episodes, and then fix up the bugs.

Anyways, I think this community has some "Mine and not yours" problem. If something is good or fun or something they tend to spread it to thier friends.

Like the Jazz 3 Demo. People who have it say "It's warez" but they still own it. It's like saying "You shouldn't burn CDs" but still own a couple of your own.

Although, the J2e. maker thing isn't warez they still won't give it out. How's about people make it so the first level is in the Homecooked list AND the regular list, so if you delete the J2e. file it will be fine. And if the level won't let you do that....delete it all.

P.S. THis post probably won't change anything. I'm just saying what I think.

[FQuist]

I'm one of the people most avidly opposed to spreading the Jazz 3 demo, and one of the most militant about it, and I do not have it, nor have I ever had it. I've once seen it from afar with people in front of it, but have gone no further.

[n00b]

No, it would make things easier. (And I meant excluding the War Tavern and miscellaneous and forum games sections.)
Ah, well it may make an ok rule, I'm still not fond of the idea.

[Newspaz]

Although, the J2e. maker thing isn't warez they still won't give it out. How's about people make it so the first level is in the Homecooked list AND the regular list, so if you delete the J2e. file it will be fine. And if the level won't let you do that....delete it all.

That's because it was given out in trust to Shadow. And Shadow gave it to some people who couldn't be trusted sadly, and those people did the same.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

What? Okay. That still doesn't answer my question. So, I guess we shall just wait for a final admin statement and then I am doomed to lie and wait and make my own JJ2-Freeware Edition! (In Gamemaker.) Or I'll just sob sadly :(

[TaZaR]

I dunno why episode thingie couldn't be free. Dunno if somebody remembers, but I've been worked on a Sonic & Jazz episode for JJ2. I've been uploaded some levels of it, for preview, and people liked it. (dunno if they still likes it) I was about 2 levels to finish to release it, and I was needed to get that j2e maker, to make my own episode file, as I imagined when I started the whole thing. But I wasn't get it, and slowly my mood went away about finish my episode. And I'm still not finished.
Well, okay, that's sounds ridicolous, but I'm talking about that, it's pretty annoying. And I dunno why is it a problem, that JJ2 crashes by much episodes. People just don't need to put all the episodes to it, and if somebody reads the level's readme file he'll know about this problem, and will be careful. If he not even care about to read it, and he's JJ2 goes wrong, who cares? It's not the people's fault. Actually that episode thing only would be bad for the leechers, not for the creators. :p
That JJ3D thing is a different one. Everybody says, it's not allowed, but you just need to ask the right person. :p
By the way I've been tought on, I think there's not a thing like that J2E editor. I think there's some way, to extract the stuffs with a hex editor, or something other. I've got a program long ago, which one was like this...

[minmay]

I dunno why episode thingie couldn't be free. Dunno if somebody remembers, but I've been worked on a Sonic & Jazz episode for JJ2. I've been uploaded some levels of it, for preview, and people liked it. (dunno if they still likes it) I was about 2 levels to finish to release it, and I was needed to get that j2e maker, to make my own episode file, as I imagined when I started the whole thing. But I wasn't get it, and slowly my mood went away about finish my episode. And I'm still not finished.
Well, okay, that's sounds ridicolous, but I'm talking about that, it's pretty annoying. And I dunno why is it a problem, that JJ2 crashes by much episodes. People just don't need to put all the episodes to it, and if somebody reads the level's readme file he'll know about this problem, and will be careful. If he not even care about to read it, and he's JJ2 goes wrong, who cares? It's not the people's fault. Actually that episode thing only would be bad for the leechers, not for the creators. :p
That JJ3D thing is a different one. Everybody says, it's not allowed, but you just need to ask the right person. :p
By the way I've been tought on, I think there's not a thing like that J2E editor. I think there's some way, to extract the stuffs with a hex editor, or something other. I've got a program long ago, which one was like this...

I downloaded that "preview." I failed to review it, but I did hate it.

[Violet CLM]

Here's an admin response, assuming you'll accept a J2O admin on the JCF.

You are not going to get the episode maker. Regardless of logic, morality, etc, even if there is no good reason you should not get it, nobody is going to give it to you. In fact, the few people who do have it probably haven't even read this topic.
I was/am working on a solution to your problem, but I have very little spare time at the moment, so it may take a while. In any case, you can feel confident that something will be done that should satisfy you... spend the time creating/improving your episode.

[TaZaR]

I downloaded that "preview." I failed to review it, but I did hate it
Great.
Otherwise, I will never finish that stuff, but I'm curious about that j2e thing.
The one thing I've been always asked, who was the one, who made that j2e editor. But I've been never get an answer for it.

[Galavant]

But, we can still make episodes for home cook Level's :)

[Stijn]

...a Sonic & Jazz episode for JJ2...
I remember that. I think I gave it a high rating :)

I agree that it's somewhat ridiculous that it's easier to get the JJ3 demo than the J2E maker. Though Unknown has no influence on that.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Okay, that means the J2E maker must not exist. (This joke only makes sense because of my 21 hours of searching for the Jazz 3D demo and my 19 hours of searching for the J2E maker on google.)
But I've been wating for 2-3 years and I can wait longer.

[TaZaR]

You will never find JJ3d in google, but there are always other ways for search files... ;-)
I'm sure J2E editor does not exist. There's just a way, to modify the already maded J2E files. For example, you can make a copy one of them, renami it, and change the name of it, in hex editor, and the filename of the starting level. That's pretty easy. And I know there must be a way to change pictures in the J2E too.
These are the stuffs I'm already been tried to open it, and didn't worked:
- Renamed it to zip, and tried to extract.
- Try to open as an image with Ifranview
- The same, but before it, I've removed the first few rows with hex editor.
- Renamed it to j2t.

There must be an other way, and I'm sure, that's an easy way, just needs to find out... And maybe I'm not right, and was a j2e editor, for private release, but I'm not sure about it, since none from the community able to tell who made that j2e editor...

[cooba]

I'm sure J2E editor does not exist.So wrong.

[n00b]

You will never find JJ3d in google
Once again, you are so wrong.

[WvA]

it is also used in last world so it have to exist? Or at least a way of making them

@unknow rabbit

i am looking forward to it. Still busy with episode but will be great to add that when it is done.

[TaZaR]

So wrong.
Show me a screenshot about that program, and I will believe it. ;)

[Sonyk]

Show me how J2Es were made by someone in this community, and I will stop believing it.

Wow, this is going in circles.

[Black Ninja]

Ok, I'm fed up with all this nonsense. The J2E maker exists. I HAVE IT. It's a simple program. You make a .ini containing all the relevent episode info, you run the program, it reads the .ini, and it creates your episode(s). Will I distribute it? No. Will I make your life miserable if you PM me asking for it? Yes.

Wait for Violet's rux thing he's making.

[n00b]

Yes, violet's thing will reimagine(or rethink) .j2es, or at least thats what his MSN title thing said.

[TaZaR]

Ok, I'm fed up with all this nonsense. The J2E maker exists. I HAVE IT. It's a simple program. You make a .ini containing all the relevent episode info, you run the program, it reads the .ini, and it creates your episode(s). Will I distribute it? No. Will I make your life miserable if you PM me asking for it? Yes.
I've asked for one screenshot & the name of the creator of that program, and there's one reason why nobody showed it yet: This is not a special j2e creator, but a common program, which one could be easy to get for everyone.. If not, there's no reason, to keep it in that much secret, I mean, one screenshot could be nice. So please somebody make one, and I won't asking more. Thanks.

[Black Ninja]

There can't be a screenshot because the program has no interface. Doesn't my post make that clear enough? It reads from the .ini and creates the .j2e files. That's all.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Nononono. Black Ninja, we mean the PROGRAM. Not the .ini thing. Those are both methods. Can somebody tell me the name of the .exe file for making episodes? Not where to get it, I'll spend my own time on that. I just want the .exe file name for the J2E maker.

[n00b]

Zapper (and TaZaR), I think it works like the mod to .j2b converter. You just drag the .ini over the dos program, it flashes up and then it churns a .j2e. A screenshot would be pointless.
*Note- I am crazy man who has no idea what he is talking about so please prove me wrong if neccesary BN.
EDIT- And the mod-j2b converter has been called a "program" as well. That main point was missing in the original writing. So your mythical 'program' and .ini method of BN are one and the same! LE GASP!

[Black Ninja]

n00b is exactly right. Praise him.

[Sonyk]

And once again, we say it. With a community as small as this, the odds of you finding this program on a website or FTP server are extremely slim.

But sure, I'll play along. It's called Episode.exe

[Birdie]

or is it?

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Episode.exe, yah, good one. Give me the name of a scanner driver. You guys are making me sick. You guys get fun for making others miserable. Well you know what? I might just keep my episodes to myself and feed you rumour by rumour and screenshot by screenshot and then dash those rumours to pieces!! HAHAHA!!! (From my eyes this is exactly like the J2E maker thing. And yes, I will make this go in circles unless everyone who has it admits so and those who don't say they don't and people stop talking in riddles.) (NOTE:This is an opinion, not a threat. It may seem like a threat but it isn't. And my level pack at this rate will have more storyline than Rabbit Honor Gaurd: The fortress. But this is not about my level pack so never mind.)

EDIT:Black Ninja: You can press ctrl-alt-Prt Screen and copy it into paint.

[Sonyk]

Okay, before you get all testy, I'm NOT lying about the program's name.. Even though, if you get the program, you'd need the INI more.

[Torkell]

I get it. It's a program that reads in an INI file (probably called Episode.ini) which tells it what files to use. There's no UI in it because whoever wrote it couldn't be bothered/didn't see a need. And it's called Episode.exe as that's the most logical name for it in the absence of something like "KeWl Jj2 EpIsOdE MaKeR v1.33.7.exe".

[Stijn]

And my level pack at this rate will have more storyline than Rabbit Honor Gaurd: The fortress.
Did RHG:TF have any storyline besides "devan on wants to destroy stuff kill him"?

[White Rabbit]

It was also about saving your honour, enforcing justice in the galaxy, hunting down a wanted criminal, deal with personal vendettas and watch big explosions. It's not much different from Die Hard 2 (which, btw, I thought was pretty good :p).

[Black Ninja]

OMG at the ignorance.

It IS called Episode.exe. By default, it reads from Episode.ini. OMG HOW HARD TO UNDERSTAND ROFL

[n00b]

Black Ninja: You can press ctrl-alt-Prt Screen and copy it into paint.
Zapper, have you EVER used the Mod-J2B converter? A Black Dos prompt flashes for less than a second. It says something along the lines of
"Reading mod file....
j2b created"
(I'm just guessing) Now since the Episode maker works along the same lines, just replace mod with "episode.ini" and j2b with "episode".
Getting a screenshot of something like that would mean having to slow down time.

[Sonyk]

http://home.ripway.com/2005-7/355605/j2emaker.bmp

There. Enjoy it. Cherish it. It's all you're probably ever going to get. And no, I will not reveal how it is I got it.

[TaZaR]

It's all you're probably ever going to get.
Don't be so sure about it.
And no, I will not reveal how it is I got it.
I've been not asked for it. And thanks for the picture.
EDIT: I'd like to ask something other. What kind of image the program is using? I mean BMP or PNG or GIF or anything other? And how to add the image, if it's only asking for the INI file?

[Violet CLM]

.pcx.

[MSB3000]

is it illegal?

[Sonyk]

Yes. It's very illegal. Just like the announcer, Overlord's program dubbed the console, and any and all cheating programs.

Don't be so sure about it.Oh, but I am very sure about that.

[Black Ninja]

Good job getting that screen, SonyK. BUT HOW DID YOU GET TEH PROGRAM OMG ROFL

[MoonBlazE]

... This "Give me give me!" topic makes me sick.

Have you ever considered that the reasons for that this program is not uploaded on Jazz2online for public download is because there are CONSEQUENCES? Heck, it has been stated multiply times that the game has _limits_ and will crash if too many episode files are created. It has only been shared to those who are responsible enough to ensure that every single stupid level now days wouldn't require you to delete one of your current episode files.

If you want something so bad, why don't you prove yourself worthy of it by bringing up a super good episode to use it with?

- If anyone gives you the program they are a fool with no responsibility.

Directed to White Rabbit, more certain is it that although this community is *small* (in your opinion), 40-50 people having this program is STILL TOO MUCH. It would be the same as sharing a cheat program out to everyone: They will abuse it, and it will ruin the game for everyone. It is why that only the best and most creative episodes have gotten it.

I beg to differ that the program will not go future now. For the future of the JJ2 community and safety of every upload on the site.

Derby: Flame tag removal. Avoid coaxing others into fighting you.

[Stijn]

It really isn't so hard to get this program. Just ask people for it. There's a difference between asking for something and demanding to have it, you know.

And I don't get this "oh no the game will crash" problem. Modern technology allows you to extract only certain files out of a zip file! Problem solved.

[Torkell]

It really isn't so hard to get this program. Just ask people for it. There's a difference between asking for something and demanding to have it, you know.

And I don't get this "oh no the game will crash" problem. Modern technology allows you to extract only certain files out of a zip file! Problem solved.
Yes, but does Joe Random User a) know how to do that or b) care about it? All he wants to do is to unzip the whole thing somewhere and then go play. He doesn't want to have to monkey around with multiple versions of the same tileset, idiots who set their level to "hide from hcl", idiots who set all their levels to "show in hcl" so he doesn't know where to start, idiots who use massive filenames so you cant read the levelname in the hcl list, and then suddenly have jazz crashing? If J.R.U. downloaded a new level pack, and then straight after jazz started crashing for no good reason, I'd bet that he would go and delete all the files from that levelpack and not play it (and probably leave a review saying "omg this crases jj2 dont play it").

Wow, that was a bit of a rant. I've had all of those except for JJ2 crashing happen to me. And don't get me started about people that don't include tilesets "because everyone will have them" and for some obscure reason fail to mention this in the readme.

BTW, that wasn't directed at anyone here (except for the first couple of sentences). Just about everything I've downlaoded from here has behaved itself.

[TaZaR]

Nobody tought on that, to make a rule against uploading j2es, expect with permission from the admin, and release that program? Just asking. That would be a good solution to everybody, but if not than sorry.

[Firewall]

j2e makers... why do SOME guys need it anyway?

[Violet CLM]

Nobody tought on that, to make a rule against uploading j2es, expect with permission from the admin, and release that program? Just asking. That would be a good solution to everybody, but if not than sorry.
The only thing about this is that it puts a lot of power in the hands of the J2O admins, and the community in the past has been not too appreciative of such a thing. It is quite likely we would be biased towards episode files created by our friends. As it is now, .j2e making is more or less decided by the community at large.
(who would you get to release it publically, btw? The people who actually have the program don't seem too inclined to give it out.)

[Black Ninja]

I'll give it out to anyone who makes a $50 or more donation to Foo Products.

Yes, seriously. ;p

[Firewall]

alright, i give it too 2 people with a GOOD reason WHY they need it

[ThunderPX]

alright, i give it too 2 people with a GOOD reason WHY they need it

To be cooler then other people and say "HA HA!". Come on, you know that's a good reason. Right?










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Right...?

[Stijn]

I'll give it out to anyone who asks for it politely, as long as I feel like the person who asks it is a nice person.

*waits for hundreds of PM's to arrive*

[Galavant]

I have good idea. For example: If I will bulid the perfect levels(with super storyline, heroes, tileset's) send it to somebody who have this program with image.pcx, he or she can make for me episod? Somebody can do this?

[n00b]

Galavant, that's exactly what we used to do in the first place(I skimmed however).

[blurredd]

It wouldn't be so bad to continue that process either. It's just a program with no interface anyway.

[MSB3000]

someone should just make it themselves...

haha

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Yay! I have no more need for this thread. I would like to thank all those who helped, offered to, and enlightened me. If I sound too annoying then burninate me online. But thanks everybody!

[Firewall]

well, if everybody gets the program and everybody use's the program for every episode he made ( also N/A and bad one's ) then you must delete it every time. Also its ieritating too use sometimes

[White Rabbit]

You under-estimate the stupidity of the general public.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Wait a minute.
You under-estimate the stupidity of the general public.
Okay. So, if I'm part of the general public... Be thankful I haven't reported you. Cause that is very close to a personal attack and yet since it isn't I can't count it.

[Fawriel]

We <i>all</i> are the general public. WR wasn't being offensive, just cynical.

[Sonyk]

Calling someone stupid really isn't a personal attack. Even if you were specific. I could call a lot of people stupid and they would be indifferent about it. Using a stronger word with the same meaning, however, would be an attack.

[Black Ninja]

Wow, I hate this topic so much. SO MUCH.

This topic represents all that is horrible in the world today. It represents the fact that someone thought giving ZAPPER the episode creator would be a good idea. It represents the fact that people feel the need to distribute programs that shouldn't exist in the first place. It represents all versions of IE prior to 7. All of the things I just mentioned can be defined by one word.

EVIL.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Uhhhhhhh..... actually, if anybody notices, I haven't post any episodes up, yet I got the maker about a month ago, so doesn't that prove that I can be trusted? (For now at least.) Oh, and this thread can be closed.

[Sonyk]

Admins and moderators don't close topics just because the maker has no more use for it. And, the problem here is that you will make episodes eventually, instead of waiting for J2E2 like you should.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I already made an episode! And if the attachment post thing would work I could prove it! And I didn't mean that this Had to be closed, I just meant that if somebody was keeping it open for me, they don't have to anymore. And why does everybody hate me? I haven't done anything "wrong."

[Fawriel]

We're a society of cynics. I guess it cannot be helped. I'm sorry.

[Torkell]

I already made an episode! And if the attachment post thing would work I could prove it! And I didn't mean that this Had to be closed, I just meant that if somebody was keeping it open for me, they don't have to anymore. And why does everybody hate me? I haven't done anything "wrong."
You can't post attachments here. Or rather, you can, but they've got to be no more than 0 bytes in size :P

You could always upload it to J2O instead.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

But that's what you don't want me to do!

[Stijn]

Touché.

[Sonyk]

Looks like you will have to find webhosting.

<font size="1">...Duh.</font>

[Black Ninja]

Looks like I love the edit to my signature. ;p

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Unless somebody has something I would find useful to say, I am ignorring this thread.

[Hellomoto]

Acutally, I think some of you guys are right. I think people should distribute it (put it on J2O) and just don't allow anyone to include a j2e file with it without an admins permission. Oh, and yes, did read the last post.

[LittleFreak]

Erm, what's the point of giving it out, when it's not allowed to put it into a zip and upload it? :7

[Hellomoto]

Erm, what's the point of giving it out, when it's not allowed to put it into a zip and upload it? :7
Oh, good point. :rolleyes:

[CrimiClown]

SWEET POINT, you mean! :D

[Hellomoto]

SWEET POINT, you mean! :D
I like sweets too! (especially fudge..)

[CrimiClown]

*Cough* You HAD to revive the freaking topic, didn't you?!

*Looks at quote*

Oh, it's MY quote... Ok, go ahead. I prefer chocolate.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Fudge....
My sweeet fudge...
Wow. Somebody revived one of my forums! Wow! I am impressed that I made such a meaningful contribution! (*cough*)

[CrimiClown]

*shoots ZAPPER*

;_;

[ShadeJackrabbit]

?_?
What? I don't see...
*looks down*
Oh...


I'm not dead yet! And I still haven't released any episodes so yay!

[n00b]

Was this only 4 pages? wow I remember it having alot more.

[LittleFreak]

Maybe it was longer because a lot of flaming got deleted? :confused:

Just a wild guess.