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Ðx
Jun 21, 2005, 11:22 AM
again 2 new screens.

Check them here:

http://jjforum.stools.net/index.php?showtopic=63&pid=430&st=0&#entry430

Register ther, so you can see more when i post ( i will prob post it here )

Fawriel
Jun 21, 2005, 11:24 AM
..looks awesome.

Iam Canadian
Jun 21, 2005, 11:25 AM
I likes what I sees.

Ðx
Jun 21, 2005, 11:39 PM
new ones : http://jjforum.stools.net/index.php?showtopic=71

LittleFreak
Jun 22, 2005, 03:39 AM
Cool stuff. =D

Violet CLM
Jun 22, 2005, 11:59 AM
It would be nicer if all that stuff could do anything, of course.

ShadeJackrabbit
Jun 22, 2005, 12:35 PM
(*drools*) :H

Yay! A new idea for an episode! Tons of non-boss bosses!

CrimiClown
Jun 24, 2005, 02:48 AM
really nice, man. Keep it up.

Can't wait for the episode... :)

Ðx
Jun 25, 2005, 09:47 AM
Unknown Rabbit, its moves shoots and hits you

Sacrush
Jun 25, 2005, 10:00 AM
Yeah, but will it all be animated? or it will all look weird. Havent seen it in action yet. ;)

Ðx
Jun 26, 2005, 12:44 AM
yes it moves >_>

Nick [PoL]
Jun 26, 2005, 01:34 AM
Ugh...
You have to use big tilesets if all that stuff is animated :confused:
But it looks very cool!
I'm looking forward to it!!!
Maybe I should start working on my lvls again, too... I didn't work on them for three weeks

ShadeJackrabbit
Jun 26, 2005, 08:08 AM
Is it gonna be 1.23 or 1.24?

Ðx
Jun 26, 2005, 08:37 AM
1.23

ask more ( list )

FoxBlitzz
Jun 26, 2005, 09:21 AM
http://www.freewebs.com/jazzx1/XjazzPn17.PNG

I have doubts about that picture being genuine. Look at that colored block around Jazz. He could have easily pasted it in. Also note how he jumps incredibly high with a standard jump on the other screenshots.

NinJazz
Jun 26, 2005, 10:03 AM
http://www.freewebs.com/jazzx1/XjazzPn17.PNG

I have doubts about that picture being genuine. Look at that colored block around Jazz. He could have easily pasted it in. Also note how he jumps incredibly high with a standard jump on the other screenshots.

maybe the floor is invisible? so you can not see the real floor, so it can be near Jazz anyway! or then we are both stupid (I mean me too)

snzspeed
Jun 26, 2005, 10:18 AM
nice screens.. though they might be hoaxes

cooba
Jun 26, 2005, 10:30 AM
They use more than 256 colors. So ha.

Ðx
Jun 26, 2005, 11:06 AM
(-)

ow woops pressed CTRL V

anyway too lazy too remove

but just wait

[Deleted private conversation posted without permission of all the participants. It's recommendable that you take a different attitude to conversation than breaking the rules to make points to embarrass people who disagree with you. - FQuist]

Fawriel
Jun 26, 2005, 12:31 PM
...uh-huh.

Violet CLM
Jun 26, 2005, 01:24 PM
EvilMonkey makes a valid point. What's with the areas of different color around Jazz and the ammo readout? And there is no way the background could be 0,0,0, not without everything leaving trails, which wouldn't be good as you just said things would be animated.

FQuist
Jun 27, 2005, 07:24 AM
I assume the high position of Jazz in some of the screens could have been caused by float ups (seems to not be a possible explaination for one of them, though).

The ammo fired by the enemies I would consider almost impossible to make like that. Look at how big the (I'd assume) animated fires are. They'd require an extremely huge amount of animations. Some of the shots even seem to go diagonally, in different angles (are they going to home in on the player?) which requires even more animations. You'd have to put the tileset full of animations for this to work, and I wonder if you'd have enough animation slots. Even if that's possible, that seems to be bad design - it's probably possible to make challenging and visually appealing custom enemy animations without all this excess that seems out of place and just takes up space which could've been used for other things. The levels also seem to be rather.. flat. The ground's just a straight line without any slopes or obstacles, and the background is pure black.

And then there's what Cooba mentioned, the top screenshot on the other forum uses way more than 256 colours. Is Jazz X a new JJ2 client?

If you post screenshots, you should be willing to expect not only positive remarks but also criticism. If you appreciate quality you should be able to stand feedback so you can improve your levels.

ShadeJackrabbit
Jun 27, 2005, 01:47 PM
Here are my questions:
-How many tilesets?
-Is it just bosses?
-Is there a storyline?
-Did you make a program to allow Jazz 2 to use more memmory?
-^ ^ colour?
-How well done is the animation?

EvilMike
Jun 27, 2005, 05:51 PM
There's also the fact that some of the earlier screenshots had no heads up display, and were in bizarre resolutions like 600x700 or something.

This can only mean one thing.

This is clearly such a good level pack that it is beyond comprehension. Clearly.

snzspeed
Jun 27, 2005, 08:55 PM
Here are my questions:
-How many tilesets?
-Is it just bosses?
-Is there a storyline?
-Did you make a program to allow Jazz 2 to use more memmory?
-^ ^ colour?
-How well done is the animation?

those screens are still hoaxes. and ofcourse there is a storyline.

R3ptile
Jun 28, 2005, 12:03 AM
Hoaxes or not, I still don't like them.. they don't fit the JJ2'ish style in my opinion.

Ðx
Jun 29, 2005, 10:13 PM
if you guys just wait for it

CrimiClown
Jun 30, 2005, 06:11 AM
Still can't wait... :)

minmay
Jun 30, 2005, 07:02 AM
I'm waiting, especially since you're probably just using the 1.25 JCS.

cooba
Jun 30, 2005, 07:03 AM
I'm waiting, especially since you're probably just using the 1.25 JCS....You all deserve a gruesome death. W/o a respawn.

CrimiClown
Jun 30, 2005, 08:58 AM
...You all deserve a gruesome death. W/o a respawn.

Lol, in 1.25 I'll just respawn when I type it in the console! 8D

minmay
Jun 30, 2005, 11:38 AM
...You all deserve a gruesome death. W/o a respawn.

Aww.

ShadeJackrabbit
Jun 30, 2005, 04:22 PM
And it's not even April.

DarkSonic
Jul 1, 2005, 04:50 AM
I have to say that talking about 1.25 is useless here. The patch isn't released and so you can't use the 1.25 JCS or other stuff.
The screenshots are quite good, and we'll find out if they're hoaxes or not.

cooba
Jul 1, 2005, 04:53 AM
The screenshots are quite good, and we'll find out if they're hoaxes or not.It would be hard to make a not-a-hoax screenshot in a 633x476 resolution.

Ðx
Jul 1, 2005, 05:46 AM
i copy't a part of the screen ( windowed ) cooba

cooba
Jul 1, 2005, 06:06 AM
i copy't a part of the screen ( windowed ) coobaUse F12.

Ðx
Jul 1, 2005, 06:44 AM
i know but why would i?

n00b
Jul 1, 2005, 07:00 AM
Because
A) It will make less people think you have hoaxes.
B) It will give us a direct screenshot from the game, also disproving it as a hoax.

cooba
Jul 1, 2005, 07:02 AM
i knowSeeing as you presumably had to cut out a part of the window display, I have doubts that you knew about F12.

Ðx
Jul 1, 2005, 07:12 AM
n00b: Because
A) It will make less people think you have hoaxes.
B) It will give us a direct screenshot from the game, also disproving it as a hoax.

so they can think its a hoax, its not my problem in my option

cooba
Jul 1, 2005, 07:17 AM
so they can think its a hoax, its not my problem in my optionThey as in a grand part of the active community?

Ðx
Jul 1, 2005, 07:24 AM
for your option possible

blurredd
Jul 1, 2005, 09:23 AM
I'm not entirely convinced either way. On one hand, there's the screenshot EvilMonkey pointed out with the weird color block around Jazz. But on the other hand, it wouldn't be impossible to create some of the things seen in those screenshots (assuming the animations aren't more complex than I think they are). Of course it would be easier to believe if Dx said the levels would be TSF, but he could've also tried going above the animation limit of 1.23 (I still have to test the effects of this myself, and I wouldn't recommend going over the limit without extensive testing). But that's all just speculation.

NinJazz
Jul 1, 2005, 09:28 AM
Hey, the black box around Jazz, can be caused of weird transparency colors also I guess?

Ðx
Jul 1, 2005, 09:35 AM
i made it black in paint ( i said it before )

cooba
Jul 1, 2005, 09:40 AM
i made it black in paint ( i said it before )And WHY?

Ðx
Jul 1, 2005, 09:45 AM
looks better?

NinJazz
Jul 1, 2005, 09:53 AM
LOL DX LOL...

By the way I just registered to your forum, that JJF or something. Your Jazz X is interesting :)

cooba
Jul 1, 2005, 09:58 AM
looks better?You have edited a screenshot! That makes it a hoax ;P!

ShadeJackrabbit
Jul 1, 2005, 10:46 AM
It would be hard to make a not-a-hoax screenshot in a 633x476 resolution.
Uhhh..... that resolution is impossible. Both numbers are not multiples of 4 or 8.

cooba
Jul 1, 2005, 10:56 AM
Uhhh..... that resolution is impossible. Both numbers are not multiples of 4 or 8.I suppose you haven't checked resolutions of Dx's "screenshots"?

blurredd
Jul 1, 2005, 12:02 PM
Ugh, I'm back on the skeptical side after examining this screenshot (http://www.freewebs.com/jazzx1/JazzXnewscreen18.PNG). Not only does it contain way too many colors as it is (16356 from what I tested), but the colors can't possibly be reduced to retain the same look. It looks like Dx needs to give a really good explanation for this. I'm not saying that all of Dx's screenshots are fake or couldn't be achieved in JJ2, but this one seems like a definite leap of faith.

n00b
Jul 1, 2005, 12:52 PM
Hmm, and reading the pack's features is like reading the features of some crappy DVD.
* New Level Expierince
* New Villians
* New Friends
* New Tilesets
* Meet Mario And The Lost Vikings
* Big Levels
* And Some Crazy Bosses

The only thing missing is *Interactive menus
EDIT- However, Big Levels would be something put on a fancy DVD feature list, let's just hpe they have good/fun content.

Violet CLM
Jul 1, 2005, 02:51 PM
They're not "hoaxes" so much as "mockups". Dx has already admitted to editing the screenshots, that colorful fire is just another example. It's the "idea" of the levels rather than the atual content.
(which is not to say I approve. I mean, even the FSP2/3/4 screenshots were unedited!)

LittleFreak
Jul 2, 2005, 02:37 AM
looks better?

Well, but showing screenshots that are NOT like the true game itself won't help you to promote your episode. That's just like if Epic would show screenshots of a 3D Jazz game and in the end it's just a few TSF-like JJ2 levels.

Ðx
Jul 2, 2005, 02:59 AM
the fire is real from jazz x, but i changes the black colour

cooba
Jul 2, 2005, 04:17 AM
the fire is real from jazz xHow can it be real while it uses something like 500 colors?