Jazz-in-a-box

[CrimiClown]

Try using any crate with the Crab Event (196) and tell me what you see... I don't believe it... Do you?

[cooba]

It's just an MCE. Nothing special at all.

Put a Crab itself anywhere else to fix it, btw.

[Radium]

I just got this screenshot. I'm proud of it. I call it "Game Over". And poor airboarding Jazz was only worth 300 points D=
http://foxmage.com/OhBobMyMolecules.gif

[CrimiClown]

Man, I still don't get what MCE is and I am proud of what I invented :P

It just mixes some sprites... That's all... But I feel proud :P

[Strato]

Firstly, that's an SCE, not an MCE.

Secondly, both are well documented, so even if you "invented" it, it's very possible that they were discovered far before you did. They've been known about since back in the times of Jazz2 City, and on a personal note, I used that SCE in a level about 2 years ago.

[Risp_old]

Look, ma! I invented the wheel!

[Radium]

Look, ma! I invented the wheel!
Hey, I DID invent the wheel )<

[minmay]

NO, I INVENTED THE WHEEL!

[EnergyClock]

NO, I'M SPARTICUS!

[Violet CLM]

Firstly, that's an SCE, not an MCE.
I would disagree. An SCE is nothing more than a generator event. An MCE is other events combined to create an event which does not actually exist in the level. They're really the same thing, the only differences being method of creation and whether the sprites are loaded with the event or not.

What tileset is that?

[minmay]

What tileset is that?

Art Tileset.

[CrimiClown]

YAY! I like the airboard-jazz-crab-thingy... :)

Like, even though almost everyone exept me knew this...

! ~ ]=--=[OWNED]=--=[ ~ !

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Pageclaim.
Looks cool to me. And I didn't know this, really cool! Could use this in a level...

[CrimiClown]

Little early for a pageclaim... :)

Glad you like it (Although almost everyone knew already... Thanks for spoiling my fun when I invent something :D)

[CrimiClown]

Don't you guys miss Odin? :)

[cooba]

(Although almost everyone knew already... Thanks for spoiling my fun when I invent something :D)It has been stated already that you did not invent it.

And I doubt that you could do any good with MCE's at this stage of level creation skill, anyway.

[CrimiClown]

... at this stage of level creation skill...

Always stay positive... I CAN create levels, I am too impatient to do so... :r

:p

[cooba]

I CAN create levelsThe way your levels turn out is a major factor, though.

[CrimiClown]

*Holds temper*

:p

Ok, I am not 'that good'... :p

[Violet CLM]

Always stay positive... I CAN create levels, I am too impatient to do so... :r

:p
Somehow I read that as "too important to do so" at first.

Anyway... hey, people, calm down. Crates can hold events, and the sprites aren't loaded automatically. We've established that. No need to start talking about the quality of peoples' previous creations.

[minmay]

Don't you guys miss Odin? :)

I miss the days when people didn't make double posts.

[Xobim]

Would it be fun if the 1.25 Patch holds all the MCE's and SCE's as events instead of combo's and generators?
(e.g. "floating jj2 sign" as an event)

[CrimiClown]

Would it be fun if the 1.25 Patch holds all the MCE's and SCE's as events instead of combo's and generators?
(e.g. "floating jj2 sign" as an event)

That'd be cool. And Unknown Rabbit is right, don't argue over my levels. :p

[minmay]

Would it be fun if the 1.25 Patch holds all the MCE's and SCE's as events instead of combo's and generators?
(e.g. "floating jj2 sign" as an event)

It does.

[cooba]

It does.Die?

[NinJazz]

Don't you guys miss Odin? :)
Sure I do, I wanna again read his spam posts in this kind of smart threads.

[CrimiClown]

Sure I do, I wanna again read his spam posts in this kind of smart threads.

Lol :7

[minmay]

Die?

No, thanks.

[Xobim]

And is he going to be back or not?

[LittleFreak]

Would it be fun if the 1.25 Patch holds all the MCE's and SCE's as events instead of combo's and generators?
(e.g. "floating jj2 sign" as an event)

No. If everybody could create MCEs, then those who put hard work into trying out all that stuff to make cool levels would feel really stupid.

[Xobim]

So why is it applied in the 1.25 patch? Like Nimmay said?

[cooba]

So why is it applied in the 1.25 patch?Let me rephrase it...

1.25 patch was an April Fools joke.

[CrimiClown]

... Yep... Sadly enough...

[blurredd]

So why is it applied in the 1.25 patch? Like Nimmay said?
I don't recall Nimrod saying anything like that in that thread though.

[n00b]

Nimmay could be a mispelling of Minmay.

[minmay]

Nimmay could be a mispelling of Minmay.

How correct you are.

[cooba]

How correct you are.No need to be an (-) you know ;)

[CrimiClown]

=) Still talking MCE's, guys? :p

[minmay]

Noo, we're having fun with off topic discussion!

[CrimiClown]

OK...


GOGO GADGET DERBY!
(Gogo gadget Derby appears courtesy of Odin -banned-)

[Xobim]

Got a pic? :7

[CrimiClown]

Check page 1, at the top... :)

[Xobim]

CRC ERROR! Pic not found! Selfdestruct immiment! :+

[CrimiClown]

I just got this screenshot. I'm proud of it. I call it "Game Over". And poor airboarding Jazz was only worth 300 points D=
http://foxmage.com/OhBobMyMolecules.gif


Here, JazzMusic. This is a picture of a pre=blown up event 196 in a crate. An airboarding Jazz comes out, and act's like the crab enemy. 3 Hp, slow walking... 300 points... Meh...

[LittleFreak]

I think I've used that thing in one of my crappy levelpacks (one of the less crappy ones though).

[cooba]

I say you try to find out an actual use for your "invention".

[LittleFreak]

It's kind of a new enemy. Simple as that.

[cooba]

It's kind of a new enemy. Simple as that.Good job on misunderstanding me, mr. "I-know-everything-about-JCS".

[LittleFreak]

I never said I knew everything about JCS.

[Xobim]

Here, JazzMusic. This is a picture of a pre=blown up event 196 in a crate. An airboarding Jazz comes out, and act's like the crab enemy. 3 Hp, slow walking... 300 points... Meh...

I mean a pic from Gogo gadget Derby! :)

[CrimiClown]

I mean a pic from Gogo gadget Derby! :)


Oh, lol. No, don't have it. Try looking up his PROFILE

:p

[CrimiClown]

And, by the way, I found a good use for it already. You come out of a 'machine-like-construction' and another Jazz (MCE 196) comes out with you. Anyone know, by the way, what is the MCE for an ordinairy blaster shot being shot right out of a crate? Just like I've seen wind right + Electro Blaster and Bomb Crate with a Lighting Shield shot out of it.

[Violet CLM]

And, by the way, I found a good use for it already. You come out of a 'machine-like-construction' and another Jazz (MCE 196) comes out with you. Anyone know, by the way, what is the MCE for an ordinairy blaster shot being shot right out of a crate? Just like I've seen wind right + Electro Blaster and Bomb Crate with a Lighting Shield shot out of it.
Try #1. Or maybe look at Stronghold Jazz. Or an MCE list. Or any of the existing body of information.

[CrimiClown]

:) I'll try :p

[Xobim]

Top Secret 1, made by Overlord has <u>clear</u> instructions how to make MCE's. You can find them below in the tileset.

And you must download RHG for that tileset...... :-\

[cooba]

Top Secret 1, made by Overlord has <u>clear</u> instructions how to make MCE's.His instructions are outdated. Those (http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/articles/view.php?articleID=280) are superior.

[LittleFreak]

And you must download RHG for that tileset...... :-\

... which you can't because the link is broken. At least for me.

[blurredd]

The article Cooba linked to is actually slightly inferior to the one Violet has on JCSref (http://www.jazz2online.com/jcsref/node.php?node=65&mode=id&menu=topics) (See Modifying your newly understood MCE under GENERATOR). I still don't see the purpose of having both the JCS article section on J2O and the JCSref website. If you ask me, instead of JCS articles on J2O, there should just be a link to JCSref where anyone with J2O membership can post an article (or I should say "a tutorial" since it's a little more than an article). But... that's probably asking for too much.

[CrimiClown]

@BlurredD:
Do you have a mod for that PWN pic, by the way? Like being able to play Devan? Or is it a hoax?

[cooba]

@BlurredD:
Do you have a mod for that pwn pic, by the way? Like being able to play Devan? Or is it a hoax?A hoax.
Why not use private messages for things like this, anyway...

[CrimiClown]

Aww.... I wish I could play as Devan... :p

[Xobim]

You truly need to have the sourcecode of jj2 for that. : - /

[CrimiClown]

Hello, Epic, GIVE US THE (-) (-) (-) (-) ing sourcecode!

[Xobim]

NO, you god(-) (-)s have been trying this for years! We Won't give that (-)ing courcecode! Now (-) off! -EPIC-

I think that's a very common answer..... :lol:

[CrimiClown]

Yea... I know... Let's send hatemail! *Write write*

[LittleFreak]

Hello, Epic, GIVE US THE (yay! I'm saving FQuist some work by deleting the filtered words myself! What good person I am!) ing sourcecode!

Having the source code would make everyone change the game until it wasn't JJ2 anymore.

[CrimiClown]

Yeah, I guess you're right... People would add all pokemon and DBZ characters and other worthless junk...

[Xobim]

Having the source code would make everyone change the game until it wasn't JJ2 anymore.

Well, I haven't thought about it that way.

I think we must capture all EPIC programmers and use them as slaves to program jj2 patches and stuff! 8D

[CrimiClown]

8D I'll grab the ropes!

[minmay]

Having the source code would make everyone change the game until it wasn't JJ2 anymore.

...which is a good thing, because it's getting very old.

[LittleFreak]

I disagree. Simply because I can.

[Xobim]

...which is a good thing, because it's getting very old.

Nice idea for a poll in the future forum: If EPIC would give us the sourcecode, what kind of game would you make of JJ2?

But JJ2 would lose it's shine if EPIC would do that, that could be a reason why EPIC won't give away the sourcecode.(Is my grammar correct? :confused: )

[ThunderPX]

People would add all pokemon and DBZ characters and other worthless junk...

And nobody would play those mods. OMGENDOFSTORY

Derby: Acronym removal.

[Xobim]

Only the creators.(this is the most useless post I ever made, don't read it)

[Strato]

We don't really have to worry about pokemon or DBZ characters in the game, considering the people who can actually read and understand the source code are probably too smart to do stupid things like that.

Imagine a Jazz 2 SDK. *shudders*

[CrimiClown]

We don't really have to worry about pokemon or DBZ characters in the game, considering the people who can actually read and understand the source code are probably too smart to do stupid things like that.

Pfew... Had me concerned for a minute

[Xobim]

And I don't think that many people want to modify the sourcecode, it's dang hard and confusing writing in C++!

And someone could modify the sourcecode in such a way that it can be used to as some sort of spyware.

And the servers will get problems with players who have different mods.

And BTW; PAGECLAIM! In the name of err.... ehm..... eh... :p

[minmay]

PAGECLAIM! In the name of err.... ehm..... eh... :p



NO.

[Sonyk]

If not that many people wanted to edit it, why are we so concerned with getting it then?

[Xobim]

Jazz2 simply needs some patches and we all want some extra functions in the game. And if we would be in the posession of the sourcecode, then those ideas could be realised. That's the drive behind it.


NO.

no?

[LittleFreak]

Jazz2 simply needs some patches and we all want some extra functions in the game. And if we would be in the posession of the sourcecode, then those ideas could be realised. That's the drive behind it.

Do I want the source code?

No.

Do I want an official JJ2 addon with bug fixes and whatever else?

Yes.

Is this going to happen?

No.

Will the source code ruin all levels that profit from bugs that were fixed?

Yes.

[blurredd]

Will the source code ruin all levels that profit from bugs that were fixed?

Yes.
That depends on what bugs get fixed. It wouldn't be so hard to fix popular levels that run into problems anyway.

Or... I suppose after new versions of JJ2 are created with the source, it could be made so that JJ2 could run older levels as if it was still 1.23/TSF and whatnot. But that's just a thought.

Nevertheless, I agree it's somewhat pointless to want the source at this point, especially since there are other more realistic projects around like a scripting language.