Clan that is lying to people

[shaney]

VS clan is a lyin cheatin and stealing clan


ever since my baby nice clan LB legendary blades clan died in jj2wc2 i wanted to join VS they told me we aint recruiting an this thing is what happend today in the lying part of them


(log)



after that i had a word with sasik and then i cought him in a lie of hi own

(log)


the cheating part well nunez VS cheating the jdc system to get points very sad


stealing well sasik and maverick were only ''dueling'' Adding each other on jdc and that was strange oh well see about this lying stealing and cheating clan its not worthy your honour to join them


they can even be honest if they dont want a member

[Removed private logs from a private conversation. Please do only post them with permission of the original participants. If these post in this thread not objecting to this, the logs can be placed back. But do remove all the insults and swear words and offensive acronyms before doing so, your post violated the rules in many ways. - FQuist]

[R3ptile]

hell yeah (-)

[Stijn]

:H 

[Chiyu]

"my baby nice clan LB" :d

Great thread. :)

[Ragnarok!]

Ye, even though there isnt a NO. ;] HELL YE (-)

[Blackraptor]

i love waking up in the morning and reading threads like this.

[Gr33n Pl4nt]

The art of Musou owns you

[Nielsje]

I miss a "No" option

[Fawriel]

Well, that's kind of mean.

[White Rabbit]

I saw these logs before Shaney posted here. I don't really want to judge anyone, but I do think it's quite rude to refuse entryship into a clan this way. If they don't want Shaney, they should've said 'no'.

[Vegito]

indeed.
but at the other side...
why making a topic like this?? -.-
this is kind of lame. whatever.

[R3ptile]

indeed.
but at the other side...
why making a topic like this?? -.-
this is kind of lame. whatever.
He's just (-) because Sasik didn't let him in.. :p

[Newspaz]

If the administration removes the vital parts of the topic, they might as well close it.

I mean, what's the point of this now?

[Radium]

http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/
For whenever it just becomes too much for you.

[Blackraptor]

Yeah, this topic was rather butchered up and a lot of vital content removed. I'd suggest closing this since the people who read this now wont have a full idea of whats going on.

[Sasik]

Ehh Shaney, you are 20 (PA)
If we didn’t want you in our clan, isn’t it better to leave us alone (FTG) and try to join some other clan? ;D
And we really weren’t recruiting any members when you wanted to join us. Did I lie? I don’t think so. We just decided that recruiting more members would be useless.

If they don't want Shaney, they should've said 'no'
I think that saying ‘We aren’t recruiting now’ means ‘NO’ and it is more polite than saying: ‘NO, YOU SUCK, GO AWAY etc.’. Feel free to call it diplomacy.
I hope we still can select people, who wants to join our clan.

[Personal attack and flame tag removal - FQuist]

[White Rabbit]

...are you then saying that the only alternative to lying to him is 'NO, YOU SUCK, GO AWAY'? What a friendly clan.... :p Is lying then good diplomacy? Hm..lemme think... 1917: 'Bread, peace and land!' 1936: 'Germany agrees to guarantee independence for the rest of Czechoslovakia.' 1949: 'All road and rail links to Berlin has been closed due to technical difficulties.' 1960: 'Our U2 strayed off course. It was there to monitor the weather anyway.' 1961: 'No one has any intention of building a wall.'

The only reason Shaney is accusing you of lying is because Sperry and Titan did join shortly, at least from what Shaney told me, after you told Shaney that you weren't recruiting.

I think an apology is in store. :p

[Sasik]

...are you then saying that the only alternative to lying to him is 'NO, YOU SUCK, GO AWAY'? What a friendyl clan.... :p

No. It was just an example.

[White Rabbit]

No. It was just an example.

That example would then probably be the worst thing you could've said to Shaney, and since it wasn't the only thing, why did you have to pick the next worst thing and lie?

I still press my case. :rolleyes:

[FQuist]

Because the logs were removed, a summary of the issue (since otherwise the topic has no use left): Shaney asked to join VS but was refused by its leaders who said they weren't recruiting. Other people, however, were recruited around the time.

[Sasik]

Is lying then good diplomacy?
No. It isn't. But I did not lie. I've just refused Shaney in other way.
The only reason Shaney is accusing you of lying is because Sperry and Titan did join shortly, at least from what Shaney told me, after you told Shaney that you weren't recruiting.
They had joined before Shaney asked us if he can join.

At first, this topic made me laugh, but now I am just tired of it -_-'

[Enigma]

Methinks this sounds like something the people involved should sort out by themselves. I fail to see the use of posting this at the forums, and don't believe any good can come from this. If you want to get issues like this resolved, have a chat with each other. Preferably without resorting to a swearfest.

[Chiyu]

I fully agree.
But that's what Shaney loves to do.. Takes personal fights/problems up to a public forum. He did it with Nimrod, he did it with Spybunny, he did it with Grytolle, and he won't stop doing it either. Someone should explain him that this is not the best solution.

[Grytolle]

Ok, this thread is a good one. However, I don't see why Shaney is trying to force himself into a clan that doesn't want him - where he won't be welcome.

[Raven aka StL]

People that cheat in JDC... BURN TO OBLIVION

[White Rabbit]

...what are you talking about?

[Raven aka StL]

...what are you talking about?

oh... that's old...
Vs members duel each other and give each other points in that manner...
they have "underdogs" that aren't known to be VS members that do that and they acquire points JUST like that...

That is to be stopped or JDC is ruined! :(

[cooba]

Vs members duel each other and give each other points in that manner...
they have "underdogs" that aren't known to be VS members that do that and they acquire points JUST like that...And you're 100% sure that everyone in VS still does that?

[Sasik]

ehh... or hhh...

Vs members duel each other and give each other points in that manner...
they have "underdogs" that aren't known to be VS members that do that and they acquire points JUST like that...
Yes, we are cheaters etc.

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And now, really. I wonder how a man who hasn't ever participated in JDC can say something about it? If you want to know, my all duels were fair and I think I am allowed to duel whoever I want to. In JDC there is no partition for clans etc. I don't understand why I have to excuse myself for anything here.
I don’t know you, and you probably don’t know me or any VS Member either, how can you say something about us then? So please, (-).

Btw. Shaney apologized me for what he has said. Yay(?).

[Filter bypass edit. Subwarning given. - FQuist]

[cooba]

So please, (-).Filter bypass or not, I got to agree on this one with Sasik.

[MoonBlazE]

Have you ever considered the possibility of they are lying to you is because they do not wish to have you in your clan, precisely because of the way you act (like starting this topic)?

I thought it was rather obvious that they did simply not want you into the clan by your very own post, that they did not have the courage to be honest to you.

Although I'm not aware of the detailed story (mostly because dear Frank Quist deleted the whole), after reading this topic I would not want to have you in any clan either.

[Vegito]

And now, really. I wonder how a man who hasn't ever participated in JDC can say something about it? If you want to know, my all duels were fair and I think I am allowed to duel whoever I want to. In JDC there is no partition for clans etc. I don't understand why I have to excuse myself for anything here.
I don’t know you, and you probably don’t know me or any VS Member either, how can you say something about us then? So please, (-).

U probably know him, at least, I do.
And I have to agree with what Emperor said, though I can't count it "cheating" but laming.

[Stijn]

Who are you talking to?

[Grytolle]

Everyone of course. It's a public board, isn't it?

[R3ptile]

Learn how to quote, Vegito. Your post are extremely confusing.

[Anubis]

How can you prove that VS members are cheating?

[n00b]

Learn how to quote, Vegito. Your post are extremely confusing.
Come now, if one had a knowledge of the posts in the topic, it is not confusing at all.

[shaney]

since i consider my own topic old news delete it please

[Vegito]

Learn how to quote, Vegito. Your post are extremely confusing.

It sometimes doesn't work, (R3ptile)

[Personal attack edit - FQuist]