Icy towers character. [Archive] - JazzJackrabbit Community Forums

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 17, 2005, 02:16 PM

John Beaks has decided he will work on my project (MINE) himself because Cooba (WITHOUT PERMISSION, SHAME ON YOU!) decided to give him MY beta. So I am not doing this project anymore. It is mainly because of the lack of support, the annoying posts of 2 certain users, and John Beak who had no right to say trash about a beta he wasn't supposed to see yet. So, sorry fans, It just won't happen.

And once again,
SHAME ON YOU COOBA! You didn't have any right to give him the beta. You don't respect me, and I am never letting you see my episode until it is done. Because I just can't trust you.
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...

Violet CLM

Sep 17, 2005, 10:26 PM

cooba

Sep 18, 2005, 01:14 AM

Icy Tower!!! =O

I will try to do my best and supply you with lots of stuff. And I will be happy if you let me test Jazz =D

*is rather surprised that no one tried to do this sort of thing yet*

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 18, 2005, 05:24 AM

Thanks Cooba!

n00b

Sep 18, 2005, 05:51 AM

I will try my best to rip the sounds, the process I am forced to use is somewhat tedious.
Which idle sound would like from Spaz? (His Burp, laugh, or shooting the UFO)

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 18, 2005, 05:53 AM

His burp. Thanks!

DanYjel

Sep 18, 2005, 09:53 AM

Hello. My classmate, John Beak champion of the world in this game, he has 6121 floors, 1016 combo and 3026 n00b league. He made quantum (52) of the characters, suprisingly he tried to do the same stuff. And suprisingly, he also didn't have the sprites. LoL, I suppose.

And by the way, I have those sounds.

And YaY for registering of Zapper at the FreeLunchDesign forum :D :D :D

cooba

Sep 18, 2005, 10:43 AM

he has 6121 floors and 1016 combo=O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for sounds, Zapper, you could try asking Dr. Eggman. He's got them extracted in .wav format, and that's what you were probably looking for.

n00b

Sep 18, 2005, 10:52 AM

It's deffently a better idea to go ask Luigi.

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 18, 2005, 01:49 PM

I actually recorded them from the game, and I could do the same with spaz. What I really need is the sprites for spaz and lori, plus the sounds for lori.

DanYjel

Sep 21, 2005, 08:10 AM

ZAPPER, how is it with your palette knowledges? Do you know it really, really well?

Stijn

Sep 21, 2005, 10:18 AM

Heh, I remember trying that a few years ago. Never got around finishing it though, I probably was too lazy. Good luck :)

[GpW]Urbs

Sep 21, 2005, 10:51 AM

Eya!!!!! Could I be on your beta tester list??? This game pwns so much:) It's addictive...

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 21, 2005, 02:40 PM

@[GpW]Urbs: Sure. PM me.
@Stijn:Thanks
@DanYjel:Enough, jazz's fur changes colours when you are doing a combo but I like it. :H

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 27, 2005, 02:13 PM

@Cooba: Have you got the the Beta Character yet? If you haven't, I'll send it to [GpW]Urbs.

DanYjel

Sep 28, 2005, 07:49 AM

Gimme the sprites, you'll get much, much better character. Truly.

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 28, 2005, 04:31 PM

No. I am working on this and want to see it done my way. It's a developer thing that I have. Called:
MypersonalprojectthatIneedhelpwithyetwon'tgivethep rojectawayis.
Lol. Just kidding. But still, no. Sorry.

DanYjel

Sep 28, 2005, 08:41 PM

@DanYjel:Enough, jazz's fur changes colours when you are doing a combo but I like it.

LOL, LOL I must say. This is not called enough.

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 29, 2005, 12:10 PM

You call it not enough, yet I call it enough. And that's final.

DanYjel

Sep 30, 2005, 06:15 AM

You call it not enough, yet I call it enough. And that's final.
Yeah, you call it enough, but you are blocking me to do anything with that it's really not enough.

Stijn

Sep 30, 2005, 09:39 AM

Just shut up about it Danyjel, ok? I think Zapper has made his point now.

ShadeJackrabbit

Sep 30, 2005, 05:06 PM

Thank you. And does anybody have a list of each spaz sprite that can be viewed?

DanYjel

Oct 1, 2005, 01:59 PM

Just shut up about it Danyjel, ok? I think Zapper has made his point now.
...I am just sad that we'll never have some good Jazz character in IcyTower ;(

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 1, 2005, 02:19 PM

It is good! I'll even take 10 screenshots to show you! And If you've got a problem, make your own Jazz sprite from the start like I did!

cooba

Oct 2, 2005, 02:32 AM

*rips the sprites for Dan*

Stijn

Oct 2, 2005, 04:11 AM

...I am just sad that we'll never have some good Jazz character in IcyTower ;(
How do you know? Have you seen Zapper's sprites? Why don't you just make your own character if you think this all sucks so much?

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 2, 2005, 06:39 AM

Only Jazz' chest fur changes. And it looks really cool.

cooba

Oct 2, 2005, 09:44 AM

And it looks really cool.If awful.

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 2, 2005, 12:06 PM

:rolleyes:
So you got it then. I don't give a dead monkey carcass what you think. I'm making them. And I need some Spaz Sprites.

DanYjel

Oct 6, 2005, 05:38 AM

*rips the sprites for Dan*
hehe :D

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 10, 2005, 04:13 PM

Dumdedum

NEED SPAZ SPRITES

Dumdedum

fire_byrd08

Oct 10, 2005, 06:43 PM

http://web.archive.org/web/20040926125405/http://www.loricentral.com Here's animations of Lori They're a bit large but you should be able to modify them with a GIF editor.

Violet CLM

Oct 10, 2005, 11:03 PM

http://web.archive.org/web/20040106063548/http://www.noogy.com/noogy/lori.html

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 11, 2005, 03:02 PM

I'll have to re-state this. Hold on...

EDIT:
Read my note way above. And technically, sprites and animations are different. An animation of a sprite is made up of sprites. (Check out The Spriters Resource (http://sprites.fireball20xl.com/) if you want exampes.)

Violet CLM

Oct 11, 2005, 08:53 PM

Yes, we know. Fortunately, it is extremely possible to download an animation and extract the individual frames from it!

cooba

Oct 12, 2005, 10:34 AM

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/2054/tower0027co.png

Stijn

Oct 12, 2005, 11:07 AM

I like how you completely ruined the colors of the text.

cooba

Oct 12, 2005, 11:12 AM

I like how you completely ruined the colors of the text.Pyromanus' character, not mine ;)

Stijn

Oct 12, 2005, 11:21 AM

He probably wanted the text colors to be like JJ2's text colors, but that doesn't work for text that's shaded like this.

DanYjel

Oct 12, 2005, 02:53 PM

Yes, we know. Fortunately, it is extremely possible to download an animation and extract the individual frames from it!
The problem is that he could use one more sophisticated method (I will not write about it here because of some bright reasons). But I am almost sure he will not do it. Just because he sucks at making characters. But okay.

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 12, 2005, 04:19 PM

We all know you're just jealous. I could make better characters than you with enough time. And I don't have a palette editor so either shut up or somebody close this thread. I don't need unwanted criticism about something only Cooba has seen. So either help, or go away.

(I am really getting annoyed yet I'm mature enough not to keep fighting like a kid, I hope you can find that you can do the same.) (Lemme guess. PA. If it is, PA DanYjel. Becuase he said what he means outright.)

And I know you can extract individual frames, but I like it when I have what I need laid out in front of me. It makes it possible to find what I need. (And who thinks I should be a lawyer?)

Pageclaim in the name of my Lawyerness!

Derby: Flame tag removal. Avoid coaxing others into fighting you.

EDIT:I don't get where exactly I was, "coaxing others into fighting you," or where I flamed.

Violet CLM

Oct 12, 2005, 08:37 PM

And I know you can extract individual frames, but I like it when I have what I need laid out in front of me.
...it is!
Honestly, this is your project, so you should expect to actually put a little work into it, even if that work is nothing more than taking frames out of .gif animations.
And why don't you have a palette editor exactly?

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 15, 2005, 05:25 AM

Because the only one I could find that isn't trial and has a very bad layout of tools has a broken download that nobody has!

And I spent 3 days just fixing one bug!

(And how did I coax and flame in my previous message?)

MSB3000

Oct 15, 2005, 10:05 AM

http://www.irfanview.com/

Has palette editor and opens just about anything.

+ a working download link and plugins:lori:

Stijn

Oct 15, 2005, 11:22 AM

www.just(-)inggoogleit.com

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 15, 2005, 01:19 PM

www.just(-)inggoogleit.com
And I voted for you...
Come on! I've worked hard on little details for this, and you think I wouldn't google palette editors? I did! People are just trying to (-) me off. Well it ain't working.

I didn't know Irfan view has a palette editor. Thanks MSB3000!

cooba

Oct 15, 2005, 01:25 PM

www.just(-)inggoogleit.comAnd I voted for you...:lol:

MSB3000

Oct 15, 2005, 04:16 PM

Thanks MSB3000!

Finally! Appreciation!

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 16, 2005, 05:33 PM

www.just(-)inggoogleit.com
And I voted for you...
:lol:
Back at ya!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stijn

Oct 17, 2005, 12:51 AM

There is a Palette Editor at J2O (-)!!!

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 17, 2005, 11:37 AM

Thanks for the palette editor info! Enough of it please. I just need those sprites so I can make Spaz and Lori.

EDIT: I also found out my image editor can't look at each frame in an animation (since nobody will help) so tell me one please! (I have Corel Photopaint 6 if you must know.)

n00b

Oct 17, 2005, 12:31 PM

Dear ZAPPER: If you have version 1.23, then please download a copy of FeindMM's wonderful Sprite Viewer and rip the sprites for Spaz yourself.
If you do not wish to, then why should anyone else wish to rip them for you?
Ripping takes no skill at all and the program only makes it easier.
EDIT- Gamemaker allows you to look at each individual frame, and with some copy and pasting you can reassemble the sprites into a sheet.

Radium

Oct 17, 2005, 12:47 PM

Gamemaker allows you to look at each individual frame, and with some copy and pasting you can reassemble the sprites into a sheet.If you have the sprites as an animation, why on earth would you want to put them into a sheet? Sheets just meen you have to copy, paste, and align each frame.

n00b

Oct 17, 2005, 01:12 PM

If you have the sprites as an animation, why on earth would you want to put them into a sheet? Sheets just meen you have to copy, paste, and align each frame.
Apparently Icy Towers does not use animations, which is why Zapper has been asking for sprites.

n00b

Oct 17, 2005, 02:12 PM

We all know you're just jealous. I could make better characters than you with enough time.
Funny, I don't recall you having seen any of his work ZAPPER.
How can you automatically assume that you can make better characters than him?

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 17, 2005, 02:25 PM

(So that's where I "coaxed into fighting".)
Why would he make such comments unless he though he could do better? And that was a double post. Oh, and nOOb, maybe you should pay attention now because I'm only saying it now:

I COULD USE SOME SPRITE REFERENCES FOR THE SPRITE EXTRACTER

It's in bold so people can see it.

Violet CLM

Oct 17, 2005, 08:31 PM

1373 - Marks the beginning of the Spaz sprites.
2050 - Last of the Spaz sprites, only to begin the sprites of the small songbird that Spaz eats and the small spaceship that he shoots. For those that have never stood still for more than a few seconds, they're used in idle animations for Spaz.

~Minmay

John Beak

Oct 18, 2005, 08:01 AM

Hi there :) To introduce myself (well, some ppl already know). I finally registered here. I wanted to do it liek 2 years before, but I didn't. I turned away Jazz and lived another live. Well, this topic has brought me "back", so go to it.

Well, what I've seen, the Jazz character is... bad? Is it the right word? In English? Actually, sounds are so-so. Music is quite good. Jazz lost his color, his fur. The flashing colors are true flash of noobishness (is that a word?) (everyone experienced that, even I did). I don't really care. It's one of the better half of IT chars ever made. Anyway, it's the big Jazz, so I wanted it to be better. Dunno if it's really THAT better, at least, it's loseless. Here it comes, my version of Jazz Jackrabbit character (92 kB):
http://www.icytower.cz/download/postavicky/jb_jazz_jackrabbit.zip
I'm using the same sounds and music as Zapper's character. I'll change them if I get better ones. Gimme if you desire so.

As far as I've seen the Spaz screenshot, it looks nice. I like it. It'll stay untouched.

Making Lori character is in my might, I just have to grab some time to make her (* wonders how Dan will read this sentence ;) *). I have the sprites in a quite unfriendly way, exporting is no problem.

Long for first post. Sorry if I insulted someone, I surely didn't want to. Believe or not, I do.

Looks like I'll have to float around and make soem posts, if I'll have something to say.

See ya guys (and gals). I press the button now.

cooba

Oct 18, 2005, 08:15 AM

Gimme if you desire so.In a while. =)

DanYjel

Oct 18, 2005, 09:04 AM

Making Lori character is in my might, I just have to grab some time to make her (* wonders how Dan will read this sentence ;) *).
(*wonders how do you want to do it... *)

John Beak

Oct 18, 2005, 09:38 AM

Cooba: Waiting in progress http://johnbeak.site.cz/smileys/clock.gif
DanYjel: I have the sprites, remeber the page at web archive? (reading this thread properly, the link is there) I have the animations, but ripping the sprites off them is easy as pie. Or you wonder how can I wonder?

Stijn

Oct 18, 2005, 10:01 AM

DanYjel

Oct 18, 2005, 10:01 AM

DanYjel: I have the sprites, remeber the page at web archive? (reading this thread properly, the link is there) I have the animations, but ripping the sprites off them is easy as pie. Or you wonder how can I wonder?
I just can't imagine how are you making... err... her..?

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 20, 2005, 04:07 PM

Yay! Now this project isn't mine because everybody wants to steal it. And who gave johan my character! I didn't give any permisiion!!!

n00b

Oct 20, 2005, 05:00 PM

Zapper, you don't have a copyright on 'Icy Towers Character deveolpment'
It's like saying "Great, everyone else is making JJ2 levels. Now mine is ruined."
Also, I beilve Pyro's spaz character was made before you even started.
And it seems in a short while John is farther along in progress, and showing the public his character so they can actually judge it. Sorry if that sounds discouraging
Good work John.

John Beak

Oct 21, 2005, 03:40 AM

n00b is right. btw, Thanks ^^

My character is separate from your project. It's reasonable that popular characters have more remakes. I saw at least 5 Sonic the Hedgehogs (and made one) and at least 20 different Marios! It's up to you to choose who-to-play-with.

Once the school part of the week is over, I can continue the progress of making Lori (that reminds me, Dan, how I'll make her ;) ). I planned lots of work this weekend, though. It's not that I'll have so much work, I'm rather lazy ;) Well, expect another release this weekend.

Cooba: Are the sounds coming? I can't hear them.

DanYjel

Oct 21, 2005, 05:56 AM

Yay! Now this project isn't mine because everybody wants to steal it. And who gave johan my character! I didn't give any permisiion!!!
yay for stup noobs :D :D :D.
You just got what you want, so shut up, please :D. If you think you made it better, don't be afraid, cause nobody will use John's char. But you didn't.

John Beak

Oct 21, 2005, 12:35 PM

OK, as I promised, I made some work on Lori character. I am terribly low on resourced and will to get new. I really didn't have any jump frames :lol:

Lori Jackrabbit (beta 1) (http://mini.johnbeak.cz/junk/jb_lori_jackrabbit_b1.zip)
First my public beta of Lori. No sound, strange frames. I really don't know if the text palette is good. I think the violet part is way too aggressive to the orange part.
I'd be pleased if someone could support me with sounds/bgm. I'll add credit ^^

I'll delete all the beta files after the char will be finished. This is first time I'm making a character in this way. Before, I was always the only tester ;)

If you want more of my characters, you can get all the officially released ones here (http://www.icytower.cz/?page=postavicky).

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 21, 2005, 12:49 PM

And I liked Icy Towers. But Cooba had no right to give it to John, because it was a beta. NOT PUBLICE BETA. I hate a lot of you, and that's too bad. Yet what is with everybody!? The project is now officially John's because of 2 particular users. So, darn it. I hate this.

John Beak

Oct 21, 2005, 12:55 PM

Hey, don't give up yet. You can still make rest of your characters, and make them better than I. I dunno. If I knew it was a beta the time I asked for it, I wouldn't ask for it. All I knew was the the char was flashing (I read it somewhere), and that was enough for me.
I'm really sorry for that.

I'm shutting up till next release or next post or something like that.

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 21, 2005, 12:58 PM

Oh, I'm not working on it, thank DanYjel and Cooba for that. Cooba should have informed you that it was beta like I told him. It wasn't publisher's beta which I would've sent you. I've had bad expieriences on this thread. If you're polite, kind, helpful, and do things differently, watch your step... cause this place is a minefield.

Stijn

Oct 21, 2005, 01:04 PM

Zapper, something makes me think that you spend more thime arguing with others about your project than on actually working on it. How about just finishing it and not caring about the rest?

n00b

Oct 21, 2005, 01:08 PM

I can hear the sounds from the Jazz character, John.

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 21, 2005, 01:21 PM

n00b

Oct 21, 2005, 03:01 PM

Because why finish it if others will do so! And why finish it when others don't want it? I only started it to keep Jazz alive. And I succeded. If John finishes it. I don't get personal satisfaction from it. And that's that.
What is your malfunction? It doesn't matter if John has a Jazz character done, you can still have a second Jazz. As John said, there are 50 mario charatcers for icy tower. Did the creator of the first mario icy tower character shoot himself when he found out someone else made another mario? NO! So don't give up, you'll only be commiting creative suicide and you'll gain nothing more than an imcomplete life!
EDIT- And f you give up now, you'll only be letting Dan and Cooba win! What, let the commies win soildier?! Don't die for china! Do it for America!
-Note: I was only impersonating a stereotypical general, and do not mean anything against commies, dan, cooba, or china. I do however, have an extreme dislike for general's socks. Smelly things those are.

R3ptile

Oct 22, 2005, 01:15 AM

I only started it to keep Jazz alive.
Haha how dramatic :lol: KEEPING JAZZ ALIVE BY CREATING AN ICY TOWER CHARACTER!

Trust me, Jazz won't die. With, or without your character.

John Beak

Oct 22, 2005, 01:36 AM

Zapper, I didn't finish your character. I just made another one. Look at the frames - they're almost all different. One the other hand, I am not going to make Spaz unless I'll be forced to. I saw the screenshot, it rocked. Wish I had the char ;)
I'm trying to keep Icy Tower alive... And it won't die with or without Jazz. It just rock a lil more with Jazz.

blah-blah.

cooba

Oct 22, 2005, 07:42 AM

Also, I beilve Pyro's spaz character was made before you even started.Nope.

Besides, Zapper, I gave JB the Jazz character because he was curious about. After a while he decided to make a new one and I gave him sprites. So there.

DanYjel

Oct 23, 2005, 06:09 AM

Oh, I'm not working on it, thank DanYjel and Cooba for that.
Thanx for creditting me a lot!!!

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 23, 2005, 12:50 PM

I don't get it? YOU guys don't get it. I never really liked the project. I did it to keep this alive. I get no personal satisfaction from doing it. So I wait for John's to be done.

n00b

Oct 23, 2005, 01:03 PM

Dangit Zapper, this is why people dont like you.
You spend a month complaining that you need this and that, arguing with people about how good it's going to be. and then you pull the plug and saying "I've just decided i (FTG) about this. I've wasted your time because i never LIKED A (-) PROJECT I FRIGGIN STARTED"
WHY DID YOU WASTE OUR TIME IF YOU NEVER LIKED IT IN THE FIRST (-) PLACE?
No one forced you to do this, you instead pestered us to do this for you, and to what extent? We get you whining some more about how you never wanted to do this and how much you hated working on it. If you never liked it, then why the hack did you make a big deal about John making his own character?
Is it because in about 2 days John completed a character it took you one month to pull the plug on?

[Flame tag removal - FQuist]
EDIT- You can now play as Zapper in Icy Towers. Get it here (http://savefile.com/files.php?fid=6084749)

John Beak

Oct 24, 2005, 05:41 AM

lol. I really like the Zapper character. (and it's comments)
btw, if DanYjel will support me with his kinda photo, I would really like to make him as an Icy Tower character - the Rabbit 182. Drunk Jazz for walking... ;)
I am still waiting for any support. I should maybe get a nice BGM for Lori by myself and merge the other sounds from what I have... I'm not really skilled with making sounds...
Cooba: You spoke about some better sounds and music for Jazz, where it is? How long should I wait? (I am patient, just asking)

P.S.: I just got an idea of a character. Possibly coming this week ;)

cooba

Oct 24, 2005, 05:45 AM

You spoke about some better sounds and music for Jazz, where it is? How long should I wait? (I am patient, just asking)As soon as my PC gets a new motherboard.

I seem to be unable to download the Zapper character. Could someone send (coobshop@gmail.com) the .zip to me?

ShadeJackrabbit

Oct 24, 2005, 12:04 PM

EDIT- You can now play as Zapper in Icy Towers. Get it here

At least I got something out of this thread. My own Icy Towers character! And why is everybody angry at me? I understand what n00b said. kinda. But the logic was flawed. I gotta play this character now...

EDIT:Nope. I ain't sending you nothing Cooba. HAHAHAhaHAHA!!! Cause I don't want spam. (*cough*) (That laughing is hard on the throat.)