Queen of Board

[Rogier]

Hi everyone, I'm new to these forums and I only signed up to ask stuff about that level will probably all know about, QoB. I find it an amazing level, yet I'm stuck. Horribly stuck, that is. At the beginning. Is anyone able to help me out? I would love it if someone could provide me with any information, Or even better, a walkthrough.

I have opened the first door once, but I didn't save and I forgot how I opened it. That was about 3 years ago though. I haven't played the game since, and I'm starting to pick it up again. So, once again, I started all over, and I have NO CLUE what do to.

Can anyone help? Walkthroughs/FAQS? Hints? Tips?

(oh, and I did search (with google and on these forums) about how-to-complete/continue on QoB. No clear results)

[Ðx]

* Points to Cooba *

[Rogier]

I suppose Cooba is a member who can help me out?

[cooba]

Cooba is your local smart(-), for your knowledge.

In any case...
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/1760/qobmap16dx.png

After unlocking door 1, you should go back to the starting spot (1). Then you should make your way to point (2). There's a tricky sucker tube on your way though, you should approach it slowly so you can pass. Anyway, you should end up in a place with a lot of warps. Play around with them (their order doesn't matter) until you get to point (3). When there, you should go right (unless there's a door there, it's there if you didn't unlock door 1) and then door 2 should be open, and so should be the Tzar Caves door. Have fun exploring the large maze, by the way.

[Rogier]

Yeah I've been in that large maze before, couple of years back. I forgot how to do that so I don't know how to open door 1.

Thanks for the explaination, much appreciated. I only need to know how/where the trigger to door one is =P

By the way, I am just wondering here.. How the HELL do you open QoB in JCS? I mean, that would help me out, for sure. Only that password.. I don't you are going to post it right here, can you either PM or email it by any change?
I found the 'Spaz' space, with the guided missiles, and I found the icers more east of the level.

[cooba]

Yeah I've been in that large maze before, couple of years back. I forgot how to do that so I don't know how to open door 1.Oooh, you want to open the first door, not the second one. In that case:

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3899/qobmap06lr.png

Just go where the green circle is. Simple.

[Rogier]

Thanks, got it.

I'm still wondering about that password for jcs. Can you at least tell me how or where you got it? I soo want it :(

[White Rabbit]

Rogier, try saving the level (at any point). If you can, it'll make life much easier in QoB. :)

[Rogier]

I saved right before the doors of Tzar's maze or whatever it's called but I got that 'No Memory Left' error :( No saving for me...

[White Rabbit]

Darn, too bad. That often happens with huge lvls (few ppl, if any, can save in QoB).

[Rogier]

Yeah, I guess.

I found that invisible maze, and that was where I stopped aswell. Man, That is like impossible. I seem to be stuck in serveral ways, I can't get 'out' of a certain area. Any suggestions?

Coopa still hasn't replied to my question about that password :(

[Grytolle]

cough TECJCS. Please note that I dont add a link.

[Rogier]

Hmm Okay. I don't get it.

[Ðx]

Gry, the level is 1.24 and TECJCS= 1.23 JCS so it can't open it

[Grytolle]

o, poop. ;p

[n0]

...I have a 1.23 QOB. The ERE links to it.

-=Edit=-
QOB

[Ðx]

There is a JCS 1.24 cracker but its very rare

[Ðx]

There is a JCS 1.24 cracker but its very rare ;<

[Cpp]

The TECJCS really is a ripped version of (myname).exe as I compared the file with my own and got a full match.
On a sub-related thing, it isn't so hard to manually remove lvl passwords.

EDIT: Considering the fact that TECJCS came out later, I couldn't have possibly ripped it.

[Grytolle]

Or you ripped it? 8D Or maybe there is even the slight chance that it wasn't a very hard thing to do, and could pretty much only be done in one way?

[White Rabbit]

Funny, I open password-protected lvls with OL's JCS, rather than TEC JCS. ;p I think I only have TEC JJ2.

[Cpp]

There is a JCS 1.24 cracker but its very rareThe first one that came out was (myname).exe for 1.23. I remember that day when I made a level for it and put the news all over it. The level also had a WinZip username/serial inside it. Was funny to watch people try it and be astonished once they figured that it actually worked. There really was no 1.24 JCS release. But there were 2 patches (one for 1.23 and other for 1.24) that came out later. These were about 15 KB each and they modified a user's JCS to ignore level passwords. I think I still have them on a CD somewhere, but don't ask me for them as I'm not supposed to spread them.
Nagging me will not get you anywhere... else than in my ignore list ;)

Funny, I open password-protected lvls with OL's JCS, rather than TEC JCS. ;p I think I only have TEC JJ2.There is no TEC JCS. It's all just an illusion. Always has been.

[cooba]

On a sub-related thing, it isn't so hard to manually remove lvl passwords.Which is what I have been doing since I lost your version of JCS, by the way.

[Slaz]

Yay, this sort of thing wondered me for long. So now, what is the best way to open the QoB level in JCS?

[LittleFreak]

I can't say. But it's probably the easiest to download one of those JCS edits that ignore passwords. I have never tried opening passworded levels without though.

[Rogier]

Yay, completed the level. I used JCS in the background for the 'map' of the invisible maze though. So I guess I cheated. But it was hard anyway.

[Slaz]

The invisible maze you are talking about is axactly the place where i'm stuck, don't forgot to thank DethMan for this great level! :god: :god:

[Rogier]

Yeah, he should make more of these, They're the best

[White Rabbit]

Bad news for you: Dethman left the JJ2 community over 3 years ago. :(

[Slaz]

I still wonder why he left. He was my favorite Jazzer when I visited Jazz2City long ago...

[R3ptile]

I still wonder why he left. He was my favorite Jazzer when I visited Jazz2City long ago...
Favorite Jazzer? o.O

[LittleFreak]

By the way, does anyone know why it is named Queen of Board after all? There is neither a queen, nor a board of some sort. :rolleyes:

[White Rabbit]

Queen, because of Tzar and Tzarin (although technically it should be Tzarina ;().

[Azonixmaestro]

Cooba is your local smart(-), for your knowledge.

In any case...
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/1760/qobmap16dx.png

After unlocking door 1, you should go back to the starting spot (1).

Hang on...I'm probably being really stupid here, but...how do you unlock Door 1 in the first place?!

[Fawriel]

Good job reading the topic. Try the second post right after that one.

[Iam Canadian]

Almost eight years later, and people <s>such as myself</s> STILL can't beat QoB.

[necrisj]

Oooh, you want to open the first door, not the second one. In that case:

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3899/qobmap06lr.png

Just go where the green circle is. Simple.

Hei

The picture isn't available anymoe, can you be more specific?
THanks in advance

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

[Ninja]

i'm 22 now, and I still remember beating overlord's test, where you would get link to overlord's website, where you could download overlord.exe and access any password-protected level. I was 9 or 10. :(

[MrAlextov]

http://web.archive.org/web/20050321120623/http://www.geocities.com/atlastsome/jj2/shj2.htm Overlord Website. It is archived at Web Archive.

[!Tman!]

This reminds me of a level Craccoboy made back in the day. You had to find the different enviromentals. Nice...

Let me know if anyone still has this level

[Violet CLM]

<a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/downloads/795/cracco-land-of-coins-loc/">This one?</a>

[ShadowGPW]

I still wonder why he left. He was my favorite Jazzer when I visited Jazz2City long ago...

He just moved on to other things, some now and then he still peeks the boards.

[Slaz]

He just moved on to other things, some now and then he still peeks the boards.

I was wondering that. In 2005... Still thanks for the answer. ;-)

DethMan's levels always popped out with something unusual, like Queen of Board. TSF made him an idol, haha. It made me search the net for more of his stuff. :p

[!Tman!]

Nice, thanks Violet.

[!Tman!]

Also, do you have the level called The Ride? It was a huge roller coaster and another level that was two spaceships?

[Violet CLM]

Nope, sorry, couldn't find it on J2O or with Captain Cook.

[!Tman!]

Captain cook?

[minmay]

http://www.jazz2online.com/downloads/3316/captain-cook-both-versions-v12/

[!Tman!]

Very nice, good to see people adding to JJ2 after all these years. Heard someone was working on JJ3 completion but haven't looked into it. Some sort of JJ3 demo fix up I guess. If so please post and let me know.

[Toni_]

http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=19325

This is just one of much more tries to make, finish or edit JJ3.

[Lithium]

http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=19325

This is just one of much more tries to make, finish or edit JJ3.

But the most successful one, I think... though I haven't been following the attempts at all :c

[burnout92]

But the most successful one, I think... though I haven't been following the attempts at all :c

You're right Lithium, but I hope that will be done in the development of Jazz 3 and shall not be aborted, such as by Epic Games. Otherwise this development is a very good try, I completely surprised when I tried this awesome this unoffical patch for Jazz 3. I think they can be done someday.

[Louis K]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1619478_1376436139292794_462814835_n.jpg

Now, I can open the door 1,2 on 'queen of board' without cheat.
so I go to the T'Zarin crystal cave...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1653466_1376436142626127_1347024195_n.jpg

I know that blue block is not T'Zarin crystal.
so I keep going..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1901307_1376436182626123_529636783_n.jpg

Oh.. I found some useful hidden way. Good!..
(And his Headbanging also..)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1795514_1376436202626121_1973695191_n.jpg

Yay.. I found the crystyal room, but the only thing I can shoot/buttstomp there is the green half of the half green-half blue ball.
BUt!.. Jazz can only break green half one, and he can't break other blue half one..

so I use the cheat code : JJMORPH.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1794702_1376436205959454_864797621_n.jpg

Yeah. Spaz can break that blue half one with his great kicking skill.

But..

After break the crystal, I go out of the caves, but again there are a blue and a red block when I fall down the hallway, I shoot the wall again and it again teleports me to my death. NOOOO!
Is there anything else to destroy in the crystal room, and how do I go about that?

now what?..

you said just 'now what?'?

how do I know that?! I don't have any other answer to you! why are you question to me huh?
NOW WHAT?!

And several times later, I found someone's walkthrough.

Got to point 1 on the map and get some ice powerups (roughly 304, 241) {press f9 for coordinates}

Go to point 2 on the map (roughly 292, 251) and shoot the block(maybe TNT?) then freeze the spring to get by. If you waste your freezers more are avaiable at the very far right zagged silver wall of the main QoB area (roughly 451, 340)

http://img169.yfrog.com/img169/5460/qob.png

well.. Ok..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/1620640_1376436145959460_710318958_n.jpg

I follow the plunK's walkthrough, but there is nothing on there I can activate or break somethings..
Is there any something I missed? I don't thing so..
there's nothing happend even I shoot/buttstomp all blocks in that area.

then.. where should I go now?
Please give me some information!

[Violet CLM]

Two bits of information:
1) Jazz 2 has a screenshot key! It's F12. Or if that doesn't work for you because you don't have any programs that read .pcx or .tga images, you can use print screen instead. Point is, taking photos of your computer screen is a bit silly.
2) If all else fails, you can watch someone else play it up to that part.

[Louis K]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1896720_1376512992618442_1659238038_n.jpg

Thanks to violet CLM, I found QOB macro data.
It will be very helpful to clear the QOB without cheats!

So I looked at the file to download and run it.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1797563_1376512985951776_1860965553_n.jpg

Oops?..
tileset has been damaged?..
well.. Let's run to JCS..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1609870_1376512975951777_372877251_n.jpg

What the.. what is the problem exactly?
what should I do now?

P.S. My progress is..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1660381_1376514922618249_1450158912_n.jpg

Hmm.. Now, I can open the door 3 also, but one thing were not resolved..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/1623781_1376514919284916_1185365996_n.jpg

Where to I go now?..
I can't find the exit..

[Violet CLM]

.j2m files are macros (demos). They play when you open JJ2 to the main menu and don't press anything for a while.

[Louis K]

.j2m files are macros (demos). They play when you open JJ2 to the main menu and don't press anything for a while.

Ah.. I didn't know that.

Thanks O+

[Slaz]

In all those years, I've totally missed the existence of that macro file. :eek:

So yesterday I tried running it in JJ2. But for some reason the Jazz sprite got all goofed up and eventually gets stuck in a platform as an airboarding sprite right after returning from the first AreaID trigger room. Both the tileset and the level are original, and the problem happens with both plussified and non-plussified TSF.

Anyone knows how and why this happens?

[ShadowGPW]

amazing that people are still struggling over this map :D

[Violet CLM]

TSF has problems with macros, or at least macros recorded in 1.23 (don't remember which).

[Slaz]

Ahh, I didn't knew that. ;)

I've tried running this macro file in 1.23 now. In Plus, it got 'out of sync' while the player was on it's way to the 2nd AreaID. The macro kept playing alright, the player just went back and forth mindlessly in one area.

Then I tried it non-plussified. The player got a lot further, all the way into the Tzarin maze! However, at the beginning of the maze it took a wrong turn on the upper-left and that's where it goes cuckoo. It got stuck in a pattern spazzing out as if all buttons were pressed at once at a slight interval of a few seconds. Then at last I tried playing it windowed (non-plussified) to check if framerate somehow interferes, but it does exactly the same getting stuck at the Tzarin maze.

So in short:
The Macro gets out of sync in Plus. And gets stuck in a pattern in non-Plus.

Has anyone ever played this macro successfully from the beginning to the end? I doubt it. :p

[Treylina]

One day I'd like to see plus have its own improved macro format, that could be user friendly, not buggy as hell and do so much more.

Oops that's kind of off-topic. But kind of relevant to the discussion of the mess that is JJ2 macros.

[Love & Thunder]

What do you mean? Jazz 2 macros work just fine...
<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/tHStO3Q0Q6s?feature=player_detailpage" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="480" width="640"></iframe>

On a less sarcastic note, I agree with Treylina -- it would be nice for Plus to fix macros.

Anyway, on a more on-topic note, I haven't actually played QoB in a long time, and I've never actually completed it, either. I guess I should do that...

[proud2beamerican]

Hey, is there any walkthrough video for the first level (Queen of B o a r d)? I couldn't find it on YouTube :(

I just found this level pack which was not included in the version (1.00g) I've originally played back in the days... and I found these levels extremely fascinating!

Also, now I know from where the name Puke Nukem comes from :D

[Violet CLM]

Well, you know, <em>most</em> level packs weren't included in 1.00g, because it had levels made by the game's developers only.

In any case, this purports to show you the way through, though I haven't tried it myself

[proud2beamerican]

Well, you know, <em>most</em> level packs weren't included in 1.00g, because it had levels made by the game's developers only.

In any case, this purports to show you the way through, though I haven't tried it myself

Yeah, thx, I've seen that link already somewhere in this thread but Macros work really weird on my Jazz. I was hoping there is somewhere a video made by some kind guy who shows step by step how to beat the level while entertaining with some funny comments and throwing a lot of "did you know that..." comments. But maybe I'm too demanding.

[Violet CLM]

Maybe someday you can make that video!

[proud2beamerican]

Maybe someday you can make that video!

Yeah.... This level was definitely not made to be beaten by a random dumb redneck. So I don't see that coming ever.

[Love & Thunder]

That's what they said to Galileo.

[Eaggra]

Well...
it seems like it is my task to end this story.
Queen of Board is really a hard level. I dont know if anyone was able to solve this without hacking it with jcs or the tileset. You can solve all the stuff, the labyrint of tzar and the other parts that names I forget. Dont ask me how much time I spent with qob. The first time I played it was probaply more than 15 years ago. I managed to solve this a first time I think in 2016. So the basic question for everyone who spent many hours with that level is how to go trough the hidden labyrinth. The answer is really simple and I'm wondering why noone hasn't done it the way I did. Just make a drawing of that labyrinth on squared paper. It took me several evenings until I had the full labyrinth. You also need to consider that you cant just save the level and you have to do all things each time until you get to the labyrinth! Even with the finished drawing I was not able to finish the level because there was still some detial missing. You have to find at least three super secrets. I only had two or one of them, I can't remember. To find the last one it was necessary to walk on every field and check if theres something hidden. Well the result of all is a video of a full walkthrough of the level on youtube that I have uploaded already in 2016.
https://youtu.be/dPi7JTtHgIk
At 11:19 theres a bottom stomp. That was the last detail that was missing and really (!) hard to find. At least you can use the tnt also.
Oh and at that moment I dont feel to publish the drawing of the labyrinth. Maybe later :D;)