Future of JJ2 [Archive] - JazzJackrabbit Community Forums

R3ptile

Dec 14, 2005, 05:16 AM

Well, this topic (http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14321) made me wonder if some community members still care about this game... if enough people vote yes, I could try and organize some public events like King of the Hill and Last Rabbit Standing once a week or so.....

BattleSpaz

Dec 14, 2005, 05:57 AM

I'm not gonna say anything, because i will just be ignored.

Super_Jarno

Dec 14, 2005, 06:10 AM

ehmm this isnt a thread from General jazz talk replace to the Future Of Jazz

R3ptile

Dec 14, 2005, 06:13 AM

Nah... by the way, keep in mind that in case you vote for yes, you are also willing to participate at those events...

Grytolle

Dec 14, 2005, 06:16 AM

Sure, this game needs some activeness again. I still love it^^

Fawriel

Dec 14, 2005, 06:48 AM

I can't really say anything about the game ( being unable to play and all ), but don't you guys DARE leave me alone in this forum. I LIVE HERE, darnit. >O

LittleFreak

Dec 14, 2005, 06:54 AM

Nah... by the way, keep in mind that in case you vote for yes, you are also willing to participate at those events...

Couldn't you have said this before I voted? =/

I can't play JJ2, but I still voted yes.

cooba

Dec 14, 2005, 07:14 AM

the last JDC season was a total failureThat was due to a great lack of event and with no one really willing to have a JDC right after the previous one ended, rather than anything. Also, school began for lots of people that time.

FQuist

Dec 14, 2005, 07:32 AM

The double meaning of the yes vote is a bit silly..

Sucer

Dec 14, 2005, 07:59 AM

Check the starter. Snooze!! I know he speaks tru as he says he dislikes 80% of the jcf community people.

R3ptile

Dec 14, 2005, 08:05 AM

Starter? I started this thread..

FireSworD

Dec 14, 2005, 08:37 AM

I don't believe the community at this time has full control of wether it dies or not. New players seem to keep coming often. Everytime I join a server I almost always find someone I've never heard of before.

CrimiClown

Dec 14, 2005, 08:42 AM

I play online (FINALLY AGAIN!), I make levels, I'm active in the community, I got some great projects ahead... Ofcourse I voted 'no'!

...

:p

R3ptile

Dec 14, 2005, 11:07 AM

Only 15 players still play this game? C'mon, I know you can do better than that...

@FQ: Well, if many people who want this game to be kept alive but don't play regulary vote yes, this thread would've simply lost it's meaning.

Ðx

Dec 14, 2005, 11:13 AM

keep the game alive plz

Vegito

Dec 14, 2005, 11:18 AM

I'll still play from time to time. maybe.
I dont know. I wont be in for duels or whatsoever anymore though.
you might caught me in some neutral server sometime ;o
So, I'll help keeping the game alife, a bit. =P

Ðx

Dec 14, 2005, 11:19 AM

i love to play duels with quickz, also just hosting for fun with new ppl is cool :) Still i miss the ppl from 2000 like Grazzkiddy Spazzy Vera, Lisa etc..

Vegito

Dec 14, 2005, 11:21 AM

<s>Which are unknown for most of us</s> ;P

Ðx

Dec 14, 2005, 09:12 PM

and veg, next time i'll pwn you in my level ;P

Grytolle

Dec 14, 2005, 10:12 PM

Sucer

Dec 15, 2005, 03:55 AM

Starter? I started this thread..

I mean the thread you reffer in your starting message.

Grytolle

Dec 23, 2005, 02:56 AM

ehmm this isnt a thread from General jazz talk replace to the Future Of Jazzehem LOL :H

DarkSonic

Dec 23, 2005, 03:56 AM

I still play this game, and I like it. But at the moment I'm playing for fun, not for duels. And to test some levels probably. Just playing in open servers.. and making levels with JCS(Yes, I returned)

R3ptile

Dec 23, 2005, 04:19 AM

Duels are much funner than just playing on a public server that is full of noobs, noob idlers and noob chat spammers.

Grytolle

Dec 23, 2005, 04:55 AM

Word

Chiyu

Dec 23, 2005, 06:15 AM

I voted no.. There's nothing you can do to make it active again, the game is practically dead already imo.

n00b

Dec 23, 2005, 06:34 AM

Count my Yes twice.

Grytolle

Dec 23, 2005, 06:51 AM

What we could to is give out more warez

n00b

Dec 23, 2005, 06:58 AM

Everyone I know at school remembers the original game(Or atleast the shareware copy), even people I never met before.
They had no idea a sequel was made. There's the solution: Handout as many copies of the shareware demo as possible.

Fawriel

Dec 23, 2005, 07:32 AM

Yes!

Grytolle

Dec 23, 2005, 08:19 AM

Yes!!! And also warez for xmas-present!!!!

UNKNOWNFILE

Dec 23, 2005, 08:48 AM

JJ2 is pretty much dead now, and what's left of it is being swarmed by TSF users.

Blackraptor

Dec 23, 2005, 09:04 AM

JJ2 tends to be rather dead around this time except for holiday servers.

n00b

Dec 23, 2005, 09:05 AM

I love it when people say "It's dead" but then don't give any suggestions to fix that.

It's a game not a lifeform, we can, if we weren't a bunch of negative naysayers *Looks at chiyu*, bring this game back to life.
I suggest making a bunch of 'Shareware CDs' ,which should include an install for the demo and .txt file explaining where to get the patches, to hand out to freinds, people on the street, and hide them around the mall and stores. This is using a tactic known as "Guerilla Marketing" and AFIAK works everytime it's used.

ThunderPX

Dec 23, 2005, 10:02 AM

I just give my friends the full version. ;)

Sonyk

Dec 23, 2005, 10:22 AM

I don't think we should be trying to revive JJ2, but instead just support community projects whose aim is to become better than JJ2 ever was. We get a better game and a more active community, and we wouldn't have to deal with the constant hastle of people who like to ruin our game with their lasers and such.

White Rabbit

Dec 23, 2005, 10:45 AM

I voted no.. There's nothing you can do to make it active again, the game is practically dead already imo.
Without CC, JJ2 IS dead. D:
I don't need to write more, since thankfully most people also don't share your opinion.

Duels are much funner than just playing on a public server that is full of noobs, noob idlers and noob chat spammers.
Did you know??
Don't be harsh on newbies. Everyone was a newbie once. Even you!

Public servers are the heart and soul of the game.

Also, funnier*. Who's the noob now? :lol:

JJ2 is pretty much dead now, and what's left of it is being swarmed by TSF users.
How come nobody is joining my 1.24 game when the only 1.23 game up is a pinging Battle Server? What IS wrong with TSF users? I am a TSF user. YOU are a TSF user. Almost half the community started as TSF users!

R3ptile

Dec 23, 2005, 10:58 AM

.. what

There's nothing wrong with public servers that are full of noobs. I just find them less challanging and boring, that's all. :o

cooba

Dec 23, 2005, 11:34 AM

Also, funnier*. :lol:*more fun

White Rabbit

Dec 23, 2005, 11:44 AM

No, funnier and funniest are both perfectly correct. :p

cooba

Dec 23, 2005, 11:53 AM

R3p, however, meant "funner" as in the superior form of "fun", not "funny".

Whatever. stop spamming kthxz

Odin

Dec 23, 2005, 12:24 PM

R3p, however, meant "funner" as in the superior form of "fun", not "funny".

Whatever. stop spamming kthxz

Except the word "funner" doesn't exist.

cooba

Dec 23, 2005, 12:35 PM

Which is why I pointed out it should be changed to "more fun".Whatever. stop spamming kthxz

Grytolle

Dec 23, 2005, 02:38 PM

I thought it was called comparative form(/tense?) =O!

Black Ninja

Dec 23, 2005, 04:01 PM

JJ2? Who cares. The community? YES.

I've met some of the coolest people in the world here, and if it died I wouldn't know what to do with myself. If it takes a stupid bunny game to keep us all together, then keep the bunny game alive forever!

UNKNOWNFILE

Dec 23, 2005, 04:12 PM

Odin

Dec 23, 2005, 05:49 PM

I've come up with something that will be able to get some attention:

Make a JJ2 1.25 patch.

And *no*, you do NOT need the source code! In fact, I've been doing a bit of modding to my JJ2 with IDA Pro, Hex Workshop and TSearch.

I've been taking a look at stuff, and have so far found out what causes the game to crash when a Spike Boll is shot at and falls down. This is because the sound effect system eats a bad alist, then the game just screws up and crashes. In theory, I'd need to set a breakpoint at the SFX processor's address and see what is causing the crashes.

So, I bet you didn't know that!

Despite all the forking you have done before, my approval rating for you has shot up through the roof. You are actually commited to doing this crap while the people we really need are just sitting on their butts.]

I'd thought i've never see the day, but ++UNKNOWNFILE.

UNKNOWNFILE

Dec 23, 2005, 06:58 PM

I've actually been hacking JJ2 for quite some while, really. It's mostly some experimental tools, and with them I found out some bugs that could be fixed. I'll first need to find out the offsets and do some xreffing and stuff.

And that divide-by-zero error scares me. ;(

Here's the tool that can kill sound effects: AVKill (still in preliminary, do NOT trust this!) (http://unknown.halleyscometsoftware.com/jj2/avkill.exe)

The above tool has been tested on a level with spike balls, but if the code is patched onto the game, the whole thing will crash a few seconds after the level loads. Oh well.
(I'm more familiar with MIPS r3k, though)

EDIT: Carp, I just can't win. JJ2's strict in checking its gameloop, so even the slightest modification sets it off:

Jazz Jackrabbit 2 has caused an access violation at 0x00 by attempting to read from address 0x00.

niek

Dec 24, 2005, 02:22 AM

Jazz could still be alive after years if we keep supporting the game. I voted for yes, not for the event reasons, but just because I think we'll have to keep Jazz alive. We just need to play the game often and also make some levels or websites.