Boss Contest

[Violet CLM]

Okay, I'm sure I'm not the only one who groans when they have to fight Devan Shell in yet another completely bare arena with no obstacles of any kind. Or when a Tuf Boss has its difficulty increased by throwing three thousand generating Tuf Turtle enemies in with it. And has anyone ever shown any interest in fighting the Queen?
These kind of things can be JJNXT fodder.

What I want to see are bosses which make me raise an eyebrow, smile, and maybe mentally raise someone's rating a little. Something awesome. So I'm giving you all a week - the time is short but it's not like you have to make a whole level or anything - to create a boss that I like. Any boss at all. Even a tile boss. Those are cool. Eyecandy isn't required but it makes things better.

I have basically two options for the winner... either I mention your name somewhere (don't know where, I'll give you a list of things I'm working on and you can choose one), or I turn you into a sprite. Your choice. But first you have to win. And all you have to do to win is create a single boss. (You can make more if you like but only one can win.)


Even if you don't take part in this contest, please heed the message. Boss battles are boring by themselves. Make them interesting!




EDIT: By the way, my definition of a boss is fairly loose. Defeating the boss does not have to automatically end the level, nor do you have to actually kill anything.

[Odin]

Question 1: Could we enter multiple times?

Question 2: If 1 = yes, then could we enter in something already uploaded to J2O?

[Violet CLM]

Question 1: Could we enter multiple times?
"(You can make more if you like but only one can win.)"
Question 2: If 1 = yes, then could we enter in something already uploaded to J2O?
Stuff already on J2O will only win if everything else absolutely sucks, sorry.

[Odin]

"(You can make more if you like but only one can win.)"

I know, but I didn't know if that meant simply more than one boss event, or a whole new boss level. Thanks for clarifying.

Also, the Bilsy boss in HH05 I made just for you (I recall you complaining that Bilsy was rarely challenging) :).

[Black Ninja]

Hmm, I think I'll make something.

[Risp_old]

I would make something if I wasn't so busy with... well, not actually too much.

[Violet CLM]

<a href="http://www.tachyonlabs.com/sam/SpilledIcecream.zip">Here's a little something to start you off with.</a> Yes, it's evil. No, I'm not going to judge myself the winner.

[Iam Canadian]

Ooh. I have a soft spot for boss battles, so this is something I'll likely enter.

[n00b]

n00b's Entry (http://kylebackstrom.tripod.com/n00bbosscontestentry.rar)
Doesn't really raise the difficulty of the boss that much, but I thought the concept was pretty neat.

[Sacrush]

You mean something like This (www.freewebs.com/satanjazz2/Customboss.zip)

Edit: Im not using this level for the contest, just so you know. I might make a real boss level ofr this contest.

[Xobim]

I'm thinking of a nice idea, I think I'll join this contest. :)
But do I have to mail it or post a link?

[NinJazz]

I want a Bass Contest.

[Fawriel]

http://www.a1asportfishing.com/bass/peacock_bass.jpg




*ahem*
Sorry, UR.
Hm. I'd enter, but I don't even currently have Windows on my computer.. don't know when I'll get it back. Levels are not an option till then.

[ThunderPX]

Couldn't you have done this BEFORE I uploaded the boss pit?


Wait, if I change the tileset, then it technically isn't something uploaded on J2O!

[Xobim]

OW, come on! Inventing something new is better!

[NinJazz]

Ingredients:
- 1 Community
- 1 Community Icon
- Any fantasy you can get
Have fun! (http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/ccboss.zip)
That guy can not be defeated :(

[CrimiClown]

UNRELEASED TILESET USE
You're right. Sorry about that. I'll wait another short time if Voilet is okay with that.

[ThunderPX]

Is there seriously no easier way of pasting events than to right-click and pick Paste Event for every tile?

[BattleSpaz]

Yeah.. Im actually gonna make something for this one..

EDIT: And hope that my idea works.

[Xobim]

Is there seriously no easier way of pasting events than to right-click and pick Paste Event for every tile?
Shift + e :)

[CrimiClown]

Shift + e :)
Don't forget that you can also block tiles using the B button, but remember the tiles will also be pasted. Events will only come on your tiles if they are attached to a tile or if you hold SHIFT when placing them.

[ThunderPX]

THANK YOU. God bless.

[NovaStar]

I don't quite get this. Isn't making a new boss making a new event? :s I cannot understand this truffle one bit.

[CrimiClown]

I don't quite get this. Isn't making a new boss making a new event? :s I cannot understand this truffle one bit.
Well, you see, there are a few possibilities in making a new boss.

1) You can make an animation which will hurt you if you touch it. You must destroy a trigger crate to open the 'door' to the ending. Just evade it all the time... Could be quite boring to make, but it works.
2) Have an original boss, put it behind some layer3 stuff and shoot it with Seekers, ElectroBlasters, Bouncers, etc.
3) Be creative! Respawning baddies could also make good bosses, if you do it right.

[n00b]

Well, you see, there are a few possibilities in making a new boss.

1) You can make an animation which will hurt you if you touch it. You must destroy a trigger crate to open the 'door' to the ending. Just evade it all the time... Could be quite boring to make, but it works.
2) Have an original boss, put it behind some layer3 stuff and shoot it with Seekers, ElectroBlasters, Bouncers, etc.
3) Be creative! Respawning baddies could also make good bosses, if you do it right.
Or
4)Have an original boss, and force the player to solve a puzzle which leads to the boss' demise upon the puzzle's completion

[ThunderPX]

Am I allowed to use an old boss, but make an entirely new and challenging arena that totally changes the concept?

[n00b]

Am I allowed to use an old boss, but make an entirely new and challenging arena that totally changes the concept?
Define Old Boss.

[CrimiClown]

I think he means originally put in the game... :P

[n00b]

I think he means originally put in the game... :P
Well then yes, since I beileve that was the whole point of the contest.

[Xobim]

Weird question:
Am I also allowed for a multiplayer boss?

[Fawriel]

You mean, like, Bobby aka Dizzy? ;o

[CrimiClown]

Or... A schitzophrenic boss!

[NinJazz]

Or... A schitzophrenic boss!
Or a mushroom boss ;)

[CrimiClown]

YES! We need a mushroom boss for NinJazz's skin problems! =D

[NinJazz]

YES! We need a mushroom boss for NinJazz's skin problems! =D
What? Where?

[CrimiClown]

Your armpits, in particular.

[Violet CLM]

Whoa, stuff piles up at night.

Yes, of course you can have a real boss event. That's the point.
I have no idea what a multiplayer boss is but yes, you can have that too.
I don't care about Ninjazz' armpits and it has nothing to do with the topic. Please stop or I'll report it.

[NinJazz]

Your armpits, in particular.
No mushrooms there...are you sure you have checked your own armpits?

[ThunderPX]

Aw (-)it >_< I can't make a proper boss with belts because the boss keeps going off-screen too far and the game resets his life. It's pretty funny to play though. Oh, and is there any way to stop things from... well, stopping at the end of a row of belt events? As in, Jazz falls off the tiles with belt events instead of stopping on the edge?

[n00b]

No mushrooms there...are you sure you have checked your own armpits?
I don't care about Ninjazz' armpits and it has nothing to do with the topic. Please stop or I'll report it.

Ninjazz, please read the topic creator's posts.

[NinJazz]

Ninjazz, please read the topic creator's posts.
What? Mine post was meant at Crimi, what's the prob?

[n00b]

What? Mine post was meant at Crimi, what's the prob?*Sigh* What Violet was saying is to stop going off-topic.
Yet you still do. It doesn't matter whos armpits you're talking about, what matters is that you're spamming.

[NinJazz]

*Sigh* What Violet was saying is to stop going off-topic.
Yet you still do. It doesn't matter whos armpits you're talking about, what matters is that you're spamming.
Me is spamming? and Crimi ain't???????

[CrimiClown]

I agree with n00b.

Now, anyway, my boss is completely done. I'll send it in as soon as Cooba releases the tileset.

[n00b]

Me is spamming? and Crimi ain't???????
You spammed AFTER Violet told you not too.
Now please stop.

[Grytolle]

http://www.a1asportfishing.com/bass/peacock_bass.jpg




*ahem*
Sorry, UR.
Hm. I'd enter, but I don't even currently have Windows on my computer.. don't know when I'll get it back. Levels are not an option till then.Can't you emulate JCS? :S It's not THAT advanced of a program, right? =O

[White Rabbit]

Can't you emulate JCS? :S It's not THAT advanced of a program, right? =O
Haha... :cool:

[Violet CLM]

Aw (-)it >_< I can't make a proper boss with belts because the boss keeps going off-screen too far and the game resets his life. It's pretty funny to play though. Oh, and is there any way to stop things from... well, stopping at the end of a row of belt events? As in, Jazz falls off the tiles with belt events instead of stopping on the edge?
You can either put another belt event on the end, or increase the speed of the last one.

[Birdie]

You can either put another belt event on the end, or increase the speed of the last one.
wind would also work

[cooba]

wind would also workActually it wouldn't.

[ThunderPX]

Well, I found that the Robot boss was probably the worst boss to use for my idea. I found a bug where the camera would lock itself forever until Jazz came back to the area where the robot is. Because of the belts, Jazz is moved out of the screen before the camera unlocks. =p

[Xobim]

My boss is done, but I'm getting the feeling that it's too easy....

[n00b]

My boss is done, but I'm getting the feeling that it's too easy....
So is mine, it's ok.

[Odin]

Ugh, I can't come up with a good idea. Could the time be extended to next tuesday, or at least next monday?

[cooba]

Ugh, I can't come up with a good idea. Could the time be extended to next tuesday, or at least next monday?Next monday is the deadline actually =D.

[Odin]

Oh, goody goody gumdrop! Ignore the above statement then.

[Violet CLM]

If your bosses are done, there is really no reason not to submit them. It's not like entering a boss means you can't have any other better ideas later on.

[LittleFreak]

Aw. D=

I'd like to participate. Too bad I can't anymore. =/

[Xobim]

I still want to know if I have to post a link or mail it or something else!

[Violet CLM]

I don't care what method you use as long as I end up having access to the .j2l file.

[Radium]

<s>Do you accept fax?</s>

[Violet CLM]

<strike>It depends on how recognizable the characters are. The problem is, a lot of them look identical. Were you to fax me a list of the byte values of the characters, then I could compile them into a .j2l file, but visually is somewhat harder.</strike>

[Odin]

Contest entry. (http://www.citlink.net/~dennismac/bosscontest.j2l)

Requires Diamondus Beta Lava by Pyromanus. But you should have that.

[NovaStar]

I still don't get this...:(

[Xobim]

I've mailed the file, (-)ing freewebs...

[Violet CLM]

Oh, it's been a week. Uh, entries are few and I don't feel like judging right now, so have another twenty-four hours.

[n00b]

Too bad I'm at my grandparent's.
I could have made use of those 24 hours to make something, ah well.

[Violet CLM]

<b>No rest for the wicked</b>
First, I would have liked to have known this was a TSF file beforehand... oh well.
This level is somewhat related to the idea of a boss... it's a random cooperative level (again, information not given), with enemies, and there are a couple places where some bosses attack you and you don't kill them. It's pretty Spaz biased in one place and the eyecandy is minimal.
I can't manage to envision this level as a boss, though. It just feels like a level.

<b>Demonic Diamonds</b>
First off, this level gets yay points for taking advantage of the greater power offered by 8-bit color.
Anyway, this pits you against Uterus underwater, which has been done before, except this time there are spinning spike bolls and small tunnels and ammo and carrots and food dropping from the sky. So you take advantage of Uterus' initial slow mode to get rid of the spike bolls, and then attack him.
Unfortunately, the level is made a whole lot easier by the fact that you can just lure Uterus out of the water and battle him there, at which point the fight is over in a couple seconds because you have Toaster.
This level looks cool, and it has some good concepts, but then the gameplay ends up being somewhat imperfect.

<b>Boss Conest Entry</b>
I question whether this entry was tested, because you are in no danger for practically the whole of the level. The idea is simple - push a Big Rock far enough that you can pick up a TNT ammo, while the Tuf Boss attacks you. Then use the TNT to blow up a trigger crate which eventually kills the Tuf Boss, but sends some tuf turtles at you.
The execution, unfortunately, is horribly flawed, as I shall demonstrate with this list:

An ice pickup is in the level, so you can freeze the rock and let it move by itself, while staying far enough away from the boss that he doesn't attack you.
By being hurt by the boss's attack in the right place, you can bounce up into the ceiling and pick up the TNT ammo without even going near the big rock.
The tuf turtles are unlikely to cause any harm to you, as you can hide on a vine or the far left side of the level.

The level reminds me of part of some other pack, I think it was RHG.

<b>Unknown entry using Kansas</b>
Given that Kansas has not been released, and the entry has been removed from the internet, I have no way of knowing what this level was like.


And because I can...
<b>Bilsy's Lair</b>
Odin advertises this as having been made for me, so I thought I'd mention it. This pits you against Bilsy (no surprise), but with a sloped floor and a strange [ tunnel thing on the left. However, it fails to increase Bilsy's difficulty or add any particular twist, as you can still just stomp and be immune to all of his fireballs.



Out of those, I guess Demonic Diamonds is the winner. It feels like it has some thought put into it, and it would probably play pretty insanely if you couldn't get back out of the water. Odin, do you have any interest in any of the stuff I mentioned in the first post, or should I just do you-know-what?

[n00b]

I didn't test mine at all, it was something I slapped together to get the ball of entries rolling. Too bad that ball didn't roll to far.

[Odin]

Woah, I didn't think I'd win! Cool.

I would like to be sprited in a 48x48 square (doesn't have to be that big horizontally, but i'd like it that big vertically. Draw me as an anthropomorphic penguin wielding dual swords, with a bright blue bandana.

And yes, Demonic Diamonds had some thought in it. I had several rough drafts of it (one making you swim away from a Bolly Boss while you fought him off) before I settled with this.

[Violet CLM]

When you say swords what sort of swords do you mean?

[Odin]

I dunno, maybe a Shamshir (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Scimitar_thin.png).

[Iam Canadian]

Aw, the contest is over already? Darn it, I was almost finished my boss too...oh, well.

[Violet CLM]

<img src="http://www.tachyonlabs.com/sam/Odinpenguin.png">
It's shiny, if not perfect.

[Odin]

<img src="http://www.tachyonlabs.com/sam/Odinpenguin.png">
It's shiny, if not perfect.

Most excellent. *saves to hard drive, drinks tea, cleans mouth*

Oh yes, very good...

[acid]

Aw, dangit! I totally missed this! Plus I had 2 things that would be perfect for this lying around on my computer (Not uploaded to J2O). Anyways, cool contest, I just wish I could've participated.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Aw, dangit! I totally missed this! Plus I had 2 things that would be perfect for this lying around on my computer (Not uploaded to J2O). Anyways, cool contest, I just wish I could've participated.
I know! I also missed it and I had an awesome idea.