Sprite Rips

[TaZaR]

Well, I think this topic should be a place where everyone should post his/her ripped sprites from JJ1 or 2, or even from JJA. So, if someone would like to use them for a game or something, they could find it here. (this is why I posted this into the community game development section)
Okay, here are the stuffs I've been ripped from JJ1 today.
http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/9395/jjenemiesspritesheet1jt.png
I'm not sure, but maybe the little turtle is incorrect. (I mean maybe has some mixing pixels, or has some not needed ones, not sure. This is because of the background... I'll find a better way to rip)
More will come later, hopefully.
And here's the JJ2 turtle again, to let every spritesheets being in one place. See the difference beetwen this and JJ1's? ;-)
http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/6256/jj2turtle6fk.png

[Violet CLM]

Every sprite from Episodes 1-6 has already been ripped. A-C/X would be more useful.

[TaZaR]

Every sprite from Episodes 1-6 has already been ripped. A-C/X would be more useful.
Oops, I've been missed something! :eek: Could you tell me, where I can get them?
And okay, next time I'll work on HH94/95 & A/B/C episodes. ;-)

[n00b]

First off, HH'94 has been ripped.
Second, Any chance you will continue the upright turtle walking animation(As I'm positive it's not in the game)?

[TaZaR]

Okay, I've found the JJ sprites link, ripped by Double Dutch. I post it here, so if anyone needs it, he won't need to search. ;-)
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=13532&highlight=sprite
Any chance you will continue the upright turtle walking animation(As I'm positive it's not in the game)?
I don't think so... That should be a lot of time, if I want to keep JJ2s animation & frame quality. If there will be JJ2 source one day, I'll make this turtle's sprites for an addon to JJ2. ;-) But if you would like to continue, or using it somewhere, just feel free. :cool:

[Odin]

I don't really like the upright turtle's gun. It looks too large and un-detailed.

[TaZaR]

I know, I know, I've been did it years ago. :p
To Double Dutch: What program did you used to rip those sprites, or how? That sprite extractor that you mentoined before? I've even seen a snake-like turtle beetwen the sprites, is it from a secret level, or what, because I've been never seen it before. :eek:

[Sciz CT]

The fact that the JJ2 turtle was drawn on top of the JJ1 turtle fascinates me for some reason.

[Pako]

I know, I know, I've been did it years ago. :p
To Double Dutch: What program did you used to rip those sprites, or how? That sprite extractor that you mentoined before? I've even seen a snake-like turtle beetwen the sprites, is it from a secret level, or what, because I've been never seen it before. :eek:
post an screenshot of that turtle, please!

[TaZaR]

I have no screenshot, cuz as I said, I didn't seen him in the game. :p
But here are the sprites by Double Dutch.
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/5447/drag4wi.png
He must be on a secret level, or even not in the game. Or maybe I'm just don't remember. :rolleyes:

[n00b]

Thats a Dragoon. He was on Marbella. Jeez, how can you forget that guy?
Everyone, go replay JJ1.

[TaZaR]

Ouch, I'm still not sure, I've been seen it. I gonna replay JJ1 again, after the exam period. :D

[n00b]

Here are some* of my rips from JJ2:
Tuf Boss (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/tufboss.bmp)
Rocket Turtle (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/rocketturtle.bmp)
Norm Turtle (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/turtle.bmp)
Bubba (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/bubbasheet.png)

*The others are either lost or incomplete.

[TaZaR]

You're sprite rips are much more complete/detialed than mine. :cool: Thanks for posting them here.
By the way, where is that angelic Bubba came from? Ripped with that sprite viewer? (If you'll say it's in the game, I'll replay JJ2 again, too :p )

[Super_Jarno]

ZOMG!
BubbaAngelSprite!?
lol!_______
:lol: :lol: /
--_--_--_--/

[n00b]

By the way, where is that angelic Bubba came from? Ripped with that sprite viewer? (If you'll say it's in the game, I'll replay JJ2 again, too :p )
Ripped with Sprite Viewer.

[TaZaR]

n00b, could you post here the sprites, that you've been ripped from JJ Advance? I've been seen 2 sheets in a topic, and the 3rd one had broken link. :I
Thank!

[n00b]

Post the ones from the topic, my Harddrive died so I don';t any thing else.

[TaZaR]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/lijik/jjasheet1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/lijik/jjasheet2.png
And that one didn't worked:
http://www.vipir.com/haiku/phil-bin/jazzsprites3.PNG
You said in that topic, that you used some emustuff to get them from the rom, not ripping them with screenshots. Could you tell me more?

[n00b]

The third one is linked to a dead server, so it won't work.

I used the OAM viewer in Visual Boy Advance.

[TaZaR]

Thanks much! ;) I'll see how it works...

[ThunderPX]

OMG, Spaz was supposed to be playable?

[Violet CLM]

...no, those are pretty obvious looking sprite edits.

[n00b]

Violet is right.
I was screwing around with Spaz since his hand looked like it was supposed to hold a gun(shortly after I realized he was pulling his ear). I left those in there for the heck of it.

EDIT-Jeez, I did a weak ripping job.

[Murderbeam]

What the Heck is with the turtle holding a gun?

Sprite edit?

[TaZaR]

What the Heck is with the turtle holding a gun?

Sprite edit?
Which one? Darkshell or the troops?

[Murderbeam]

The one on the first post.
The jj2 normal turtle sprites.

[n00b]

That was an obviously done edit Twinsoul.

[Odin]

That was an obviously done edit Twinsoul.

Twinsoul isn't exactly the brightest Jazzer. In fact, he's not even average there. Just forgive him.

And JJA looks like it was drawn in MSPaint.

[n00b]

Thats one advanced MS Paint-er

[ThunderPX]

Twinsoul isn't exactly the brightest Jazzer. In fact, he's not even average there. Just forgive him.

And JJA looks like it was drawn in MSPaint.

I wish people would stop saying you can't make good things in MS Paint.

[n00b]

I wish people would stop saying you can't make good things in MS Paint.
Seriously.
Any good peice of pixel art came from MS Paint.(as always there are exceptions)

[Violet CLM]

JJ2.

[TaZaR]

You can done everything in mspaint expect the few things about the palettes. You don't need 250 effects to make a nice sprite.

[aokmaniac13]

But you do need 250 effect to make nice sprites... faster.

[n00b]

250 effects cant even make sprites.
AT ALL.
EDIT- Or increase the speed for that matter.

[TaZaR]

250 effects cant even make sprites.
AT ALL.
Agree, if you use for example PSP's brush, the sprite will be too much blurry, and not every pixel will be at the place, where you want. Of course maybe it could work for bigger sprites with bigger color depth, but not with 8-bit sprites for 320x240 resolution.

[Odin]

I wish people would stop saying you can't make good things in MS Paint.

I didn't. I simply stated that JJA looked like it was made in MSPaint. I use MSPaint for all my picture editing/pixeling needs, so I can't really say that I don't think anything good can come out of MSPaint.

What I should've said was that JJA's sprites (more notably the larger ones) have bad shading/coloring. I've been pixeling for only the past six months (in MSPaint, even, not a program meant for pixeling like GraphicsGale), and even I could do a better job.

[Violet CLM]

Agree, if you use for example PSP's brush, the sprite will be too much blurry, and not every pixel will be at the place, where you want. Of course maybe it could work for bigger sprites with bigger color depth, but not with 8-bit sprites for 320x240 resolution.
Uhhh... if you zoom in, just like in Paint but better, you can tell where the pixels go, and PSP doesn't blur things.

[n00b]

Paint supports up to 10x, which is a fairly good zoom.
I really don't see the point in zooming in so far that you can barely see what you're working with.

[Odin]

Paint supports up to 10x, which is a fairly good zoom.
I really don't see the point in zooming in so far that you can barely see what you're working with.

Paint can only zoom up to to 8x. And in a high resolution, 8x can be used to tweak "hidden" pixels that, while the eye is unable to easily distinguish, can change the way a sprite looks.

[n00b]

Paint can only zoom up to to 8x. And in a high resolution, 8x can be used to tweak "hidden" pixels that, while the eye is unable to easily distinguish, can change the way a sprite looks.
Wrong. Click slightly below 8x to use the hidden 10x zoom.

[Black Ninja]

I never knew about that, n00b. I just learned during my winter break. IT BURNS!

[Radium]

Agree, if you use for example PSP's brush, the sprite will be too much blurry, and not every pixel will be at the place, where you want. Of course maybe it could work for bigger sprites with bigger color depth, but not with 8-bit sprites for 320x240 resolution.You can just turn the blur off.

I don't see how people can seriously use MSPaint for spriting. Three undos, hardly any zooming functions, no layers, and no pallettes. I mean, I'm not denying that it's possible to make good sprites in Paint, it's just akin to painting a fence with a ballpoint pen. There are plenty of programs that are both better and free.

[Odin]

Wrong. Click slightly below 8x to use the hidden 10x zoom.

I knew that, I just don't count it because I don't feel like putting effort into clicking a 2-pixel-wide space.

[n00b]

Spriting doesn't need layers.
I tried spriting with layers, and everything became over complicated.
You don't have undos in real life drawing, you just erase. You dont ussualy work with anything terribly big when spriting so you can just erase like everyone else.
The pallete is the only thing you're right about.
EDIT- @odin-And the space is two pixels high. It's as wide as the zoom select box.

[Odin]

As for zooms, zooming up to 8x is all you really need unless your resolution is around 2048x1536.

[TaZaR]

Uhhh... if you zoom in, just like in Paint but better, you can tell where the pixels go, and PSP doesn't blur things.
Yes, if you don't use antialiasing. But with that, you can just do the same thing as in MSPaint, and if MSPaint is able to do the same, I have no reason to launch a program which one uses much more system resources than it. Of course, if I'm coloring a drawing or foto-editing, or retouch a scanned image, etc. I'll use PSP or PS. The only problem with paint, it's hard to edit palettes, and it's unable to do some palette things. So I make them in PS, but the pixeling for me is comfortable with MSPaint. For creating new colors, I'm using iDraw, and for palette swapping / color replacing I'm using PS.

[n00b]

You can also replace colors in MS paint but it's not so effective

[Violet CLM]

TaZaR: Let me see if I understand. One of your arguments is as follows:
MSPaint is better than PSP because it doesn't blur things. I know PSP doesn't have to blur things, but then it's just as functional as MSPaint.

Yeah, I don't have much of a use for layers, but I know I'd have a lot of trouble doing anything at all if I was limited to three undos. I imagine it would be a complicated process of saving and reloading the image every time I thought about adding anything. And not having a palette or a simple "replace color" function would be pretty painful.

[Odin]

There's a replace color function in MSPaint. Select the color you want to replace, right-click select on the color you want to replace with, sselect eraser, and right-click drag over the part you want to replace.

[Violet CLM]

I said "simple".

[Odin]

It's easier done than said.

And while I agree that MSPaint isn't that great of a tool, I don't feel like learning GraphicsGale.

[Birdie]

Wrong. Click slightly below 8x to use the hidden 10x zoom.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
woah! i didn't know that

EDIT:
i just memory edited the zoom ;) ms paint has some pretty high zoom like this :lol:

[TaZaR]

TaZaR: Let me see if I understand. One of your arguments is as follows:
MSPaint is better than PSP because it doesn't blur things. I know PSP doesn't have to blur things, but then it's just as functional as MSPaint.

Hmm? Wait, maybe I'm explained myself incorrectly. So my statement is that, PSP is better the almost everything than PSP, but if you spriting you won't need those things (for example it's not good if you use that brush for pixeling, it's not even pixeling), just the ones Paint can do (with few exeptions), and it's even faster, because it's not using so much system resources, and even loads faster. This is why I prefer MSPaint for sprite editing. (not for every drawing method)
Yeah, I don't have much of a use for layers, but I know I'd have a lot of trouble doing anything at all if I was limited to three undos.
I'm always copy paste the sprite before I start to make some huge chances. By the way, why more than 1-2 undo is needed? You placing every pixel where you want, so you can't make big mistakes, not like with freehand drawn. And even if you make one, you can reload, which is not much time in mspaint.

I imagine it would be a complicated process of saving and reloading the image every time I thought about adding anything. And not having a palette or a simple "replace color" function would be pretty painful.
I'm using idraw for it. And even opening mspaint & idraw is much faster for me, than PSP. I'm drawing the palette to the picture, so I can use it in paint something like in psp.
By the way, I'm still not saying MSPaint is better than PSP. My point is MSPaint has enough stuffs to make good sprites (with a little help of some other programs), and it's faster than PSP.


There's a replace color function in MSPaint. Select the color you want to replace, right-click select on the color you want to replace with, sselect eraser, and right-click drag over the part you want to replace.
I ment replacing the colors in a palette, not in the drawing.

[n00b]

Double-click any color you have in Paint's color-selector to change it.
Man thats the oldest trick in th' book.

[Birdie]

Hmm? Wait, maybe I'm explained myself incorrectly. So my statement is that, PSP is better the almost everything than PSP, but if you spriting you won't need those things (for example it's not good if you use that brush for pixeling, it's not even pixeling), just the ones Paint can do (with few exeptions), and it's even faster, because it's not using so much system resources, and even loads faster. This is why I prefer MSPaint for sprite editing. (not for every drawing method)
... did you set the brush size to 1 pixel? :p

[TaZaR]

Double-click any color you have in Paint's color-selector to change it.
It won't change the colors on the picture. :(
... did you set the brush size to 1 pixel?
Yes, and it's the same when you drawing with paint. :p

[n00b]

Use Odin's technique.
Heh, I remember when I found out about Paint's tricks a year ago. I was recoloring stuff in 10x veiw for a week straight.

[Birdie]

Yes, and it's the same when you drawing with paint. :p
EXACTLY, so you can't complain it's worse :p
i did my avatar in psp too =D

[TaZaR]

I didn't.
So my statement is that, PSP is better the almost everything than PSP
I wanted to wrote PSP is better in almost everything than MSPaint. (Just MSPaint is faster)

[Birdie]

=o what if you have leet ruxor super computer? and psp is as fast as paint (haha your right paint is a load faster, also i don't have a leet ruxor super computer)

[TaZaR]

=o what if you have leet ruxor super computer?
Certainly, I'll use psp or some other skilled programs like psp. ;-)

[Doubble Dutch]

Well, getting back to the subject of ripping sprites; I have added episodes A-C and HH95, as well as some other junk to my sprite rip. You can get it here: http://www.freewebs.com/gannalev/sprites.zip

[n00b]

Well, getting back to the subject of ripping sprites; I have added episodes A-C and HH95, as well as some other junk to my sprite rip. You can get it here: http://www.freewebs.com/gannalev/sprites.zip
SAVIOR! SAVIOR!
I can finnaly stop trying to rip Zoonik's sprites!

[Violet CLM]

Ah, Doubble Dutch. While I prefer to have sole access to this sort of thing because I'm a selfish little hoarding (individual with unmarried parents - it's a WORD), your work is still stellar and useful and I appreciate you for that. Three cheers.

[DoubleGJ]

<a href="http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/6425/jj2tstrflm2hj.gif">JJ2 toaster flame (normal)</a>
<a href="http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2747/jj2fontbig4nb.gif">JJ2 big font</a>
<a href="http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/1630/jj2fontmed7vu.gif">JJ2 medium font</a>

The small font has been already ripped by Luigi Elettrico (a.k.a. Dr. Eggman) and is available <a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=3820">here</a>.

[TaZaR]

Thanks for ripping the remained jj1 sprites, they're great! :)
It should be (-) hard work, to rip them with dosbox.

[DoubleGJ]

How did you download it? It won't work for me no matter which way I try...

[TaZaR]

Copy / paste the link into you're browser's address bar. If it won't work the link must be broken...

[Doubble Dutch]

Behold the evil rabbit queen!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/kongin.png

[n00b]

I've got Bilsy almost fully ripped. Apparently his Fireballs won't show up in sprite viewer so I'll have to rip that the old fashioned way.

[Violet CLM]

Yeah, the fish object doesn't supply an angle to display the sprite at, so it won't show the rotatable sprites very well.

[n00b]

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/bilsy.png
And for comparison purposes:
Older sheet that was ripped about a year ago of Bilsy. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/lijik/incompletebilsy.png)

EDIT- The spawn time of the fire attack seems a little off =P. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Runescapephotos/jazz0001.png)

EDIT2- Am I the only one who thinks The Queen's eyes in her idle pose look like Taz's(from Looney Tunes of course).

[n00b]

Sorry for the DP, but here's a link to rips of the Character Select screen(missing a few frames. I know I missed a frame for Spaz, which means I missed a frame for Jazz. Lori on the other hand seems to have less frames. I may be dead wrong however.)
Sheet (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/JazzCinemaGrabs/charselectsheetcomplete.png)

[n00b]

Erm, sorry for the Triple Post, but I submitted my rips to a site called The Spriter's resource (sprites.fireball20xl.com)

You should too, submissions can be done at the Pixeltendo forums:
Which is found here (http://pt.uga-q.net)

[Doubble Dutch]

Meh, someone else can submit my sheet, and take crdit if they want.


Well, we seem to have a lot of boss rips; nobody focuses on the enemy-in-the-street.

Like the rats for example; dilligent hardworking loyal defender of Devans lab, even after he mutated them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/rat.png

[n00b]

I was planning on ripping the Psych enemies. Once,I had a complete hatter sheet done before my hardrive went on the fritz.

[Doubble Dutch]

a few miniutes spare; here's the spark:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/spark.png

And here's pretty much all of the menu pictures including the character select with the missing animations. The images aren't vertically distorted like in the game though.

http://levellord.toxicsheep.com/menu.zip

[Violet CLM]

The images aren't vertically distorted like in the game though.
Have you tried viewing them in lower resolutions?

[Doubble Dutch]

Whatever for? Vertical distortion is easily corrected for.

Pageclaim

[Baggers]

Keep up the good work guys, any chance people have the full animations of the faces that sit in the corner of the screen ? It would be (-) useful.
Thanks guys

Baggers

[n00b]

Hm, I'll rip those tomorrow. Don't have much time tonight for ripping.

[UNKNOWNFILE]

I've got a treat for you guys. I'll post it tommorow.

[Doubble Dutch]

Oooh! The suspense!

any chance people have the full animations of the faces that sit in the corner of the screen ?

Well, here's the bird one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/birdhead.png

[Baggers]

Thanks double...If the bird ever maks it in that will be invaluable !looking forward to UNKNOWNFILE's suprise aswell.
And nOOb as ever you are a star, nice to still see you around !

[UNKNOWNFILE]

To spoil the surprise: I managed to create a program that works in the exact same way as the Sprite Ripper by ViperMM, but it's made to work with screen capturing software like HyperCam or Camtasia Recorder. I made it work by doing the following things:


I did a Tspy on the existing program
I added a "set to one" option to get the below-mentioned option to work
I added an "increment" option to my program which simulates the actual animation
I removed the text that says "Pause" when the window is inactive from the English.j2s file


This will increase the automation it takes to create sprite sheets. I'll post a copy and an example video (with sprites! =O) at around 5 PM EDT this afternoon.

[Odin]

This will increase the automation it takes to create sprite sheets. I'll post a copy and an example video (with sprites! =O) at around 5 PM EDT this afternoon.

Wait, did you mean 5 PM EST, or that you're releasing it at 6 PM EST?

[n00b]

You forgot the fact that the game darkens a bit when paused.

[UNKNOWNFILE]

OK, here's the sample video. You will need the DivX codec installed to view it.

bleh (http://rapidshare.de/files/11671877/spriterip.avi.html)

As for the program (which I have kindly named The Anally Complete Sprite Ripper), that will be released later due to bugs in the program.

[Doubble Dutch]

Hmmm, it *does* darken when paused. That could be a real problem.

Oh well, I see someone else is ripping the character's heads. [Sounds gruesome]

So here's the hatter:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/hatter.png

[Pako]

can someone rip Fish sprites?

[Doubble Dutch]

No, on account of that I can't swim.

Here's the caterpillar though. [Immortal too, pity Devan didn't enlist some of them to actualy *fight* Jazz.]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/caterpillar.png

[The smoke rings change color depending on the background behind them. This is their defaut color for this plain background]

[Doubble Dutch]

Whee! Doubble post to match my dutchness!

N00b, where are the four remaining heads? I wanna see Jazz's disembodied head!

In the meantime here's:

The bat (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/bat.png)

The bee (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/bee.png)

The crab (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/crab.png)

The demon (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/demon.png)

The dog (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/dog.png)

The dragon [Its fire is the toaster animations] (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/dragon.png)

And some tiny bees! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/swarm.png)

[DoubleGJ]

Wow, I'd never guess the Bee has only 2 frames.

[n00b]

@DD, I'm trying to find a time where I can rip all the sprites at once.
And you ripped all of the stuff I was going to rip when I got bored while looking at Jazz's head 20 minutes D=.
EDIT- Ha, DD missed the Bee's turning sprites =D

[Violet CLM]

You should have gotten the Crab out of Uterus instead... doesn't it drop down in a ball form?

[Doubble Dutch]

Yeah, but I was going to include that with the Uterus boss rip.

EDIT- Ha, DD missed the Bee's turning sprites =D

D'OH! Sorry, uploaded a beta of the bee and didn't notice! *sigh* I'll have dinner, see if I can fight my brother for the computer and upload the fixed images of the crab and bee.

[Baggers]

Wow great stuff guys, thatll make the plaeholders i use for enemies a bit more interesting.
Ta

[cooba]

EDIT- Ha, DD missed the Bee's turning sprites =DAll of JJ2's turning sprites are done by just flipping the original one, I think.

[Kuraj]

<snip>

[n00b]

All of JJ2's turning sprites are done by just flipping the original one, I think.
Wrong. The Bee, and Devil Devan have their own turning sprites.

[Doubble Dutch]

Yeah, a few of the enemies in JJ1 also have different sprites for walking left and right.

I noticed that Character Select animations are adjusted for 640x400 resolution, so they're vertically disorted when displaying in 640x480. I know im a lil too late, dont blame me please.

I already ripped most of the menu sprites including character select as vertically undistorted.

Drat! Forgot to rip the crab and bee! Oh well, here's some other junk I ripped before n00b [Tell you what, you can rip the bee's turning sprites, I'll leave em for ya]

Feuer frei!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/toaster.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/TNT.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/sphere.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/seeker.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/frezer.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/electric.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/bouncer.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/3way.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/blasterpower.png

Oooh, its a bug! [Yes, I KNOW I missed some frames, so sue me]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/dragonfly.png

Mmmm, tasty
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/food.png

And a snack for our red friend;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/spazbird.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/crate.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/barrel.png

[Birdie]

:O nice sprite rips, but you forgot the TNT crate :p

[Doubble Dutch]

Of course I did! Geez, I was concentrating on the ammo, not the crate! [And besides, someone's already ripped the crate]

Besides, I fixed it didn't I?


EDIT: Now the crabs fixed; and since n00b is still busy; here's Jazz's head:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/jazzhead.png


EDIT 2: I've collected all the ripped sprites posted here [and a few that aren't] and uploaded them as one neat lil package. (http://www.freewebs.com/trixicentral/jj2spr.zip)

[Doubble Dutch]

Whee! Doubble post!

Whats taking so long n00b?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/blaster.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/shieldclock.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Nevad/spazhead.png

[n00b]

The past two weeks included many problems such as writing an essay, completing an art project, and then theres the fact I found Jazz Y more interesting than staring at the Frog's head.
And you keep ripping things, giving me less incentive to do so. Why should I rip something when I know that by the time I have enough free time, DD will have ripped that and twice as much stuff?
EDIT- I never want to see the frog's head again. EVER. 38 frames of boring sprites. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/Jazz2rips/froghead.png)

Man if the head sprites were a tad bit more animated than "Eyes turn around, blink" I'd have gotten them done alot faster.

[Ice M A N]

This past week I've been looking at the J2A, J2T, J2B, etc... files..

I came up with a sprite (and sound effects and tileset) extractor..

example: 698 Jazz sprites: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/jj2-jazz/ (in an archive: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/jj2-jazz.zip )

a few things.. lots of overhead for filesize since each frame is in it's own BMP (the palette is just Diam2's palette...) I'll see about putting everything in a grid later..

once I work out how to nicely group things in a grid, I'll run it on all the anims.. once I get that done we'll have a lot of sprites really quickly :p

Any comments/complaints (like what color the background/transparency should be, if anyone is interested in sound effects, if you see a sprite is messed up a bit, etc)..?

[Birdie]

:O does it extract the palette from the tilesets aswell?

[Ice M A N]

:O does it extract the palette from the tilesets aswell?
My J2T extracter? yeah, graphics, palette, mask, and some more data that isn't particularly useful (like masks for the files when flipped, ...) Although it isn't really useful to the community at large IMO..

[n00b]

I'd imagine it's as important as sprite rips.
How can you make a fangame without tilesets?

[Ice M A N]

I'd imagine it's as important as sprite rips.
How can you make a fangame without tilesets?
This is true...

anyway.. I'll work on my sprite ripper tomorrow to get sprite sheets instead of individual bitmaps and then see about polishing up the tileset ripper..

poorly-named, individual frames of those character heads:
http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/jj-heads/
http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/jj-heads.zip

[Radium]

Didn't someone claim once there were cool things in the J2A that we'd never be able to find?

[Monolith]

Ice M A N: Before you start churning out more bitmaps, you might want to fix your compliance with the bitmap file format. Windows Explorer and MS Paint seem to not like them very much.

bfSize in the BITMAPFILEHEADER looks way off.
You may want to set biSizeImage.
You should probably set dwColorUsed and dwColorImportant to both 256.
You may want to set both biXPelsPerMeter and biYPelsPerMeter to something other than 0.
And if all that doesn't work, maybe you should flip them over and use bottom-up bitmaps.

[UNKNOWNFILE]

This past week I've been looking at the J2A, J2T, J2B, etc... files..

I came up with a sprite (and sound effects and tileset) extractor..

example: 698 Jazz sprites: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/jj2-jazz/ (in an archive: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/jj2-jazz.zip )

a few things.. lots of overhead for filesize since each frame is in it's own BMP (the palette is just Diam2's palette...) I'll see about putting everything in a grid later..

once I work out how to nicely group things in a grid, I'll run it on all the anims.. once I get that done we'll have a lot of sprites really quickly :p

Any comments/complaints (like what color the background/transparency should be, if anyone is interested in sound effects, if you see a sprite is messed up a bit, etc)..?

hooray for zlib parsers =D

[Ice M A N]

Ice M A N: Before you start churning out more bitmaps, you might want to fix your compliance with the bitmap file format. Windows Explorer and MS Paint seem to not like them very much.

bfSize in the BITMAPFILEHEADER looks way off.
You may want to set biSizeImage.
You should probably set dwColorUsed and dwColorImportant to both 256.
You may want to set both biXPelsPerMeter and biYPelsPerMeter to something other than 0.
And if all that doesn't work, maybe you should flip them over and use bottom-up bitmaps.

OK. Thanks for that. I'll fix all the zero things (http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/windows/364/bmpffrmt.html was my reference for thinking they should be OK), and bfsize is off because I had to pad the image to be a multiple of 4 bytes wide.. I was reusing old code which I used for tilesets (where I didn't have to worry about that).. and I didn't update bfsize accordingly. I didn't notice since OSX's finder, Photoshop, and Camino (mozilla-derived OSX browser) all rendered them right... <b>EDIT</b>: well, in addition to the pad by 4 thing, bfSize was way off because I had bfOffBits in the calculation, but it was endian swapped, which made the outrageous result.. Anyway, they may be fixed now (I redid all that I had up previously.. took about a minute includeing zipping and uploading..)

and UF, zlib is just the compression thrown over a custom format... there's more to figureing out the file format than just being able to use the zlib library...

[Bobby aka Dizzy]

That's pretty sweet Ice M A N.

[aokmaniac13]

Does it get sprites in 8-bit color?

[Ice M A N]

uh.. yeah. Of course. after zlib+my descrambling it's a raw image that references palette indicies, but no palette. That's why I just threw the Diam2 palette on there. (Bear in mind some of the tileset-specific sprites (like pinball bumpers) come out looking weirdish in that palette, and the menu sprites look especially bad ;p)

on that note, can someone take an 8bit screenshot of the menu so I can get it's palette (Is it even possible? I tried on the mac version and I don't think I could..)? It very well may be somewhere else in the anims file or whatever, but I have no problems with taking the easy way out for now..

[UNKNOWNFILE]

Could you post some specifications on how JJ2 stores its stuff in zlib? This intrigues me.

[Violet CLM]

<a href="http://www.tachyonlabs.com/sam/menu.pal">menu.pal</a>. Don't remember where I got it from or if it was from a screenshot or what.

[Birdie]

:o ...

EDIT:

the smiley isn't working =\

[Ice M A N]

OK.. so I didn't get around to doing the grid thing today..

I worked on a PHP J2T->PNG converter.. perhaps J2O can let you preview tileset downloads? Bobby and I will be discussing, I'm sure.

[Baggers]

Um..wow !...these collections are great guys. Nullified alot of my by-hand-ripping but never mind !

[Doubble Dutch]

The era of ripping is over, the era of extraction has begun.

I can now retire from sprite ripping and work on my toenail art.

[n00b]

I shall retire form procrastinating on ripping, and go work on Jazz Y some more instead.

[Birdie]

:O your really gonna fisnish jazz Y :p

[n00b]

I've already mentioned 2-3 times I am INDEED WORKING ON JAZZ Y.

People stop treating Jazz Y news(whereever I slip it in) as Christmas Day. "Wow he's actually working on it? Goodgollygosh!"

[Ice M A N]

Anyone want to suggest the best system for putting sprites on a sprite sheet?

Ways I can think of:

1) find the max width and height of any frame of a set of anims (e.g. the "jazz" set, the "bilsy" set, the "weapons" set..) and make a grid of cells that size.

or

2) place a sprite in the top left, gap of like a pixel, next sprite, repeat, until the width is filled, then start on next line down far enough that it won't touch the above sprites (i.e. a crude closest packed system..)


Other questions:
How much padding between sprites?
Should the sprites be centered in the imaginary cells, or aligned to top-left or whatever corner?
Should there be bounding boxes drawn around them?
What color background?
How wide should the sprite sheet be? A constant, or around the width to make the entire sheet close to a square?
Should I also export a txt file giving the coordinates of each sprite? What format would be useful to fangame programmers?

Last night I ripped close to all of the sprites I had (only the anims in the shareware version, I don't have access to the full version at school (I'll get my brother to send it to me from home though)).. (like 3500+) and it took around 20 seconds.. certainly makes the by hand ripping look slow.. ;p

[n00b]

I think 1 would be a pretty good system.

[Sonyk]

1 would probably be best for when people use it and make animations and whatnot.

[Ice M A N]

I could probably also string all the frames of a set together into an animated gif.. the format doesn't look too hard, especially since we did the LZW algorithm in school a while back, so...

But then again each set has a number of sequences.. maybe if I get around to finishing the rest of the J2A file I'll find where the beginnings/ends of these sequences are...

Oh well.. I'm getting ahead of myself again.

[Monolith]

Anyone want to suggest the best system for putting sprites on a sprite sheet?

Ways I can think of:

1) find the max width and height of any frame of a set of anims (e.g. the "jazz" set, the "bilsy" set, the "weapons" set..) and make a grid of cells that size.

or

2) place a sprite in the top left, gap of like a pixel, next sprite, repeat, until the width is filled, then start on next line down far enough that it won't touch the above sprites (i.e. a crude closest packed system..)


Other questions:
How much padding between sprites?
Should the sprites be centered in the imaginary cells, or aligned to top-left or whatever corner?
Should there be bounding boxes drawn around them?
What color background?
How wide should the sprite sheet be? A constant, or around the width to make the entire sheet close to a square?
Should I also export a txt file giving the coordinates of each sprite? What format would be useful to fangame programmers?

Last night I ripped close to all of the sprites I had (only the anims in the shareware version, I don't have access to the full version at school (I'll get my brother to send it to me from home though)).. (like 3500+) and it took around 20 seconds.. certainly makes the by hand ripping look slow.. ;p
Sprite sheets are more useful to work with manually when frames of a particular animation are grouped together and seperated from other animations -- like one animation sequence on a row. Optimizing your extraction for fangames to use would be different because you want to try to pack them in as tightly as possible, and also have a way to lookup the animation set, locations, sizes, and offsets for all of the frames. It might be best to let fangames deal with how to arrange that themselves. Maybe just make a text file with any of that data that exists in the j2a file. Background should be color index 0, I think. I don't know about padding between frames.

Windows Explorer now generates thumbnails for the bitmaps, which is nice. Paint still can't open them, but I suspect that's because it just doesn't support top-down bitmaps. They seem fine in most everything else.

[Ice M A N]

Sprite sheets are more useful to work with manually when frames of a particular animation are grouped together and seperated from other animations -- like one animation sequence on a row. Optimizing your extraction for fangames to use would be different because you want to try to pack them in as tightly as possible, and also have a way to lookup the animation set, locations, sizes, and offsets for all of the frames. It might be best to let fangames deal with how to arrange that themselves. Maybe just make a text file with any of that data that exists in the j2a file. Background should be color index 0, I think. I don't know about padding between frames.

Windows Explorer now generates thumbnails for the bitmaps, which is nice. Paint still can't open them, but I suspect that's because it just doesn't support top-down bitmaps. They seem fine in most everything else.

OK. I'll take all of this stuff into account.

And note that I've located how to tell how to separate the sets of anims into sequences (e.g. instead of just the "dog" set, there is dog-attack and dog-walk... ), so that's a step in the right direction..

EDIT: and... I found a little bug in the code.. was incrementing a variable twice, so now I have roughly double the number of frames I had before (on the order of 6500..) (note that the jazz frames and heads I uploaded earlier are unaffected by this.. they're all there)

EDIT2: and thanks for the palette unknown. worked great.

[Doubble Dutch]

6500 frames?

Dear lord, if anyone ever customizes them all I'll eat my hat!

[Stijn]

I worked on a PHP J2T->PNG converter...
That would be SO useful for a certain project I'm working on at the moment. Will it be open-source?

[Ice M A N]

6500 frames?

Dear lord, if anyone ever customizes them all I'll eat my hat!

TSF brings the total to 7090.. I'll try to release sprite sheets by the end of the week, but I make no guarantees...

That would be SO useful for a certain project I'm working on at the moment. Will it be open-source?

I dunno.. I'll probably follow Dr. Eggman's lead with his J2B file work by documenting the file format and providing only really basic code so that only people who know what they're doing will be able to make use of it. PM me if you think I may be able to help you with your project though..

[Birdie]

:O wow lots of frames

[Doubble Dutch]

By the end of the week? O.o

[Ice M A N]

By the end of the week? O.o

yeah.. I already had all of the sprites extracted in 1 frame per BMP (like the Jazz and "Heads" bitmaps I linked to earlier).. it was fun scrolling through the thumbnails of them.. fake animation ;p I just need to write some code to lay them out nicely. It's not difficult.. I can probably reuse code I made to rearrange tiles in tilesets/level previews for this purpose.. it's just I don't have a ton of free time to sit down and get it done for the next couple days..

<strike>Anyway, for like 24 hours I'll leave this up: zip file of <a href="">all JJ2 TSF frames</a> (9.4 MB), and an extracted <a href="">directory of them</a> (LARGE listing..).. Please don't link to these from anywhere.. and if you actually look at them, tell me if anything is messed up in the slightest. The only think I noticed is the Suckers (?) have green spots.. possibly because of the Diam2 palette, possibly because of a bug on my part.. also things like the pinball bumpers which are tileset dependant look funky.. but whatever..

note that they haven't been broken up into "sequences" (walk, attack, ..) yet, just "sets" (bilsy, jazz, weapons, ..) and are still top-down bitmaps.. the "real" release won't have these problems.</strike>

[Stijn]

...Whoa. There are a lot of things I never expected JJ2 to have... for example the doors (set 122), a cheering Eva (177) or an EXPANDING CIRCLE (182).

And before Cooba comes in, yes, I realise others may have known about them.

EDIT: Also check out 202, 306 (which seems to contain lots of sprites I've never seen) and 406 frame 27 (Koopa shield!).

[Ðx]

i saw then. =D

[cooba]

And before Cooba comes in, yes, I realise others may have known about them.hilarious

[White Rabbit]

There is no set 177. >o

[Jerrythabest]

<blink>418</blink>
These rule the world!! WHEE!!!!!!!!!!!! YAYAYAYAYYAAAYAYYAYY!!!!!!


TWEEDLE WILL NEVER EVER DIE!!!!!!!!

[Pako]

What about the boxing globe? That one could be the non-working weapon 0 what you get with the All Ammo cheat in Jazz Advantage!

[Grytolle]

Cheeeter Booo >o

EdiT: (-) u FilTeR AlL CapS

[Violet CLM]

A fair amount of that stuff was already viewable with just sprite ripper. Anyway, the expanding circle is most probably some sort of blast/hurt radius, probably from RF's, though I haven't compared the sizes.

[Jerrythabest]

u mean its something like masks for the eplosion?

[n00b]

I think it's fairly funny that when lori morph's back from the frog, the sprites used are just a poor recolor of Jazz's.

[Pako]

Cheeeter Booo >o I got Jazz Advantage to see that weird hidden uncomplete weapon, what, as I said, can be that boxing globe.
EDIT: It can be the weapon used to defeat Tweedle without gun!

[n00b]

You know, I have a sneaking suspicion the Boxing Glove is what the unworking spring event is

[Grytolle]

I got Jazz Advantage to see that weird hidden uncomplete weapon, what, as I said, can be that boxing globe.
EDIT: It can be the weapon used to defeat Tweedle without gun!However, JA doesn't show it.

[Doubble Dutch]

Lets haer it for hidden stuuf! [Some of which can go into the ripped from other games thread]

[Pako]

However, JA doesn't show it.
BECAUSE they removed that weapon, but not the weapon place, thats why it is there but doesn't show.

[Jerrythabest]

I wonder why there are these 1x1 pictures in the font.

[Grytolle]

BECAUSE they removed that weapon, but not the weapon place, thats why it is there but doesn't show.Why would the author of JA make it that way?

[Doubble Dutch]

I wonder why there are these 1x1 pictures in the font.

They are the ghosts of characters never drawn.

[Birdie]

:O ghosts

[Ice M A N]

little update.. I threw some rearrangeing code together in the last half hour.. the results aren't too great with the current system (although using a new one won't be bad.. I can reuse most of the code)

A few randomly selected sheets: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/

I don't think I'll be able to keep 1 sequence per row and same space taken up per sprite, as some sprite sheets get HUGE (jazz=50MB!, all=~250MB total).. I'll probably just switch to closest packing or something, but I'll try a few other things including a batch PNG or GIF conversion...

[Monolith]

You're spacing all the frames in the sprite sheet at the same width. I suggest using the same spacing only within the same animation sequence (row).

And I would also suggest converting the images to something compressed like indexed PNGs before putting them on the web.

..although that's kind of what you already said you would do.

[Ice M A N]

yeah.. I was just converting them to GIFs.. was just about to upload a few.. I'll try PNGs too..

using the same spacing within the same sequence will definitely make it more pleasing to look at, but there's still a ton of wasted space because of usually one exceptionally long sequence. but I guess the GIF/PNG thing makes that a moot point.

hmm.. I could probably fix all this stuff in under 10 minutes, but I have an early class tomorrow and need to get some reading done for it.. I guess programming time is over. Updates tomorrow! ;p

[Doubble Dutch]

Yeah; with something like this you'd want GIF or PNG format; bmp's are just too big, and PNG's really start to save space when you go from lots of small bitmaps to a few larger ones.

[Jerrythabest]

Looks like we have programs for J2B (well, thats still not good enaugh) and now for J2A too! Good job, go on and release soon ;) then we only gotta get the structures of J2D, E, H, L, M, S, T and V figured out and then it's the exe file's turn!

[cooba]

then we only gotta get the structures of J2D, E, H, L, M, S, T and V figured outJCS being insufficient for you?

[Jerrythabest]

we havent figured them out, yes, ok we can use them:) just not figured out how they work.

[Ice M A N]

Actually, I know J2T better than J2A, and I've gotten some useful stuff out of J2D..

1 sequence per row with constant horizontal spacing within a sequence + minimal vertical spacing: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/ all the old ones plus a few new ones, now in PNG..

a few more things I want to do before I release the bunch of them...

[Odin]

May I ask what J2D is?

Also, nice sprites. I like the jumping Eva <3

[Stijn]

The only J2D file around is "data.j2d", IIRC. If that's true j2d would probably stand for "Jazz 2 data".

[Ice M A N]

OK. I put them all up even though there is still work to be done. I still have to find a way to position them nicely so that, for example, the bottoms of springs all line up, etc.. I'm pretty sure I saw this kind of data in the J2A file somewhere, but I won't get a chance to go digging for it for some time, so this is what you're stuck with for a while (weeks?) (unless someone proposes an easy-to-make change..)..

enjoy?

EDIT:
may as well throw out a few thankyous at this point:

dr eggman: for his work on j2b format and code for getting raw data that was a starting point/inspiration
doubble dutch + n00b: for their hand ripped sprites which I used for comparison when extraction wasn't 100% accurate
mono: for technical advice
unknown: for menu palette and hand ripped sprites

[Bobby aka Dizzy]

That's so amazing. You rock Ice M A N.
And this one is rather interesting: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/TSF-SET122-iceman.png

[Doubble Dutch]

Brilliant; absolutely brilliant; it puts our hand ripping efforts to shame, oh the shame!

I'm going to hide in the corner now.

[Monolith]

This is amazing. Definitely great work!

[cooba]

Icey wins at the internet D;.

[White Rabbit]

Wow, I can't believe I just viewed every single animation frame of JJ2. :O

[Jerrythabest]

I still wonder what is the use of the door!

[DoubleGJ]

To go into them! :O

[Jerrythabest]

when were they supposed to appear, what was their use in the game etc.:P

[ThunderPX]

To go through =P

Also, the "jumping" Eva sprites look more like hurt sprites...

and I wonder what this would've done... (http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/TSF-SET202-iceman.png)

[cooba]

..seems familiar to anyone? ;)

<img src="http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/TSF-SET106-iceman.png">

Also, it's probably worth mentioning that the sprites in Anims.j2a are sorted by <a href=http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=13205>this order</a>. Therefore, set 202 wouldn't possibly be the Springcord (should start with a G), and 026 would be Big Tree (as opposed to the Small Tree event).

[ThunderPX]

G for glove =D

[n00b]

If I change my JCS.ini to say "McBurger" instead of "Norm Turtle", does it automatically mean the turtle is called "McBurger"?

[DoubleGJ]

Yes. Because all these turtles are nameless.

[n00b]

I meant the event itself.

[cooba]

Uh, no. JCS.ini changes the event names, rather than the object names in Anims.j2a.

[n00b]

Exactly. Just because Springcord is called Springcord in the JCS doesn't automatically mean that the animation set it uses is called 'springcord'. just the same as if the turtle is called 'McBurger' in the jcs, it's set isn't automatically called 'McBurger'.

[cooba]

Exactly. Just because Springcord is called Springcord in the JCS doesn't automatically mean that the animation set it uses is called 'springcord'. just the same as if the turtle is called 'McBurger' in the jcs, it's set isn't automatically called 'McBurger'.Same goes for the CTF Base (object called Flag).

[Jerrythabest]

so this weird boxing thing is the springcord :o

[n00b]

You know, I have a sneaking suspicion the Boxing Glove is what the unworking spring event is
Thanks for reading my posts, Jerry.

[Jerrythabest]

I read it! I read it! lol, its just so not-sure! Dont worry, I read yours too:)

[Ice M A N]

This doesn't help the discussion much/any, but yeah, the sets are in alphabetical order.. there are a bunch of identifiers in the executable that correspond to the sets:
(but note that there are other identifiers intermixed refering to other stuff, removed from this list..)

AMMO
BAT
BEEBOY
BEES
BIGBOX
BIGROCK
BIGTREE
BILSBOSS
BIRD
BIRD3D
BOLLPLAT
BONUS
BOSS
BRIDGE
BUBBA
BUMBEE
BUTTERFLY
CARROTPOLE
CAT
CAT2
CATERPIL
CHUCK
COMMON
CONTINUE
DEMON
DESTSCEN
DEVAN
DEVILDEVAN
DIAMPOLE
DOG
DOOR
DRAGFLY
DRAGON
EVA
FACES
FATCHK
FENCER
FISH
FLAG
FLARE
FONT
FROG
FRUITPLANT
GEMRING
GLOVE
GRASSPLAT
HATTER
HELMUT
JAZZ
JAZZ3D
JUNGPOLE
LABRAT
LIZARD
LORI
LORI2
MENU
MENUFONT
MONKEY
MOTH
PICKUPS
PINBALL
PINKPLAT
PSYCHPOLE
QUEEN
RAPIER
RAVEN
ROBOT
ROCK
ROCKTURT
SKELETON
SMALTREE
SNOW
SONCSHIP
SONICPLAT
SPARK
SPAZ
SPAZ2
SPAZ3D
SPIKEBOLL
SPIKEBOLL3D
SPIKEPLAT
SPRING
STEAM
SUCKER
TUBETURT
TUFBOSS
TUFTURT
TURTLE
TWEEDLE
UTERUS
VINE
WARP10
WARP100
WARP20
WARP50
WITCH
XBILSY
XLIZARD
XTURTLE
ZDOG
ZSPARK

[Jerrythabest]

can you include set numbers in that list? Then I know which set to click on... easier. Yes, I know its just lazy-ness. Thanks in advance.

[ThunderPX]

Is it possible that there are unused sprites in 1.23 that aren't in TSF, ex. removed to save space?

Also, the door might've been a bonus level entrance, otherwise the door could've been in tilesets instead of in Anims.j2a to have it fit in with the tileset more.

[cooba]

Is it possible that there are unused sprites in 1.23 that aren't in TSF, ex. removed to save space?Indeed there are. After all, there are no sprites of Jazz and Spaz shooting diagonally in what Icey extracted.

[TaZaR]

Great sprites, and lot of new stuffs I've been never seen before. :) What for that 8-axis Devan falling should be for?
By the way, are there any chance, to extract sprites from the OEM version? Maybe there are some more unused stuffs, or interesting béta sprites.

[Ice M A N]

Indeed there are. After all, there are no sprites of Jazz and Spaz shooting diagonally in what Icey extracted.

Hmmm.. that's a good point. I'll put 1.23's stuff up tonight.

Great sprites, and lot of new stuffs I've been never seen before. :) What for that 8-axis Devan falling should be for?
By the way, are there any chance, to extract sprites from the OEM version? Maybe there are some more unused stuffs, or interesting béta sprites.

Also a good point, I'll look into that as well..

[Baggers]

are there any chance, to extract sprites from the OEM version? Thats a grand idea!...I look forward to that.
Great work as usual guys.

[Ice M A N]

hurray for exactly the same file format! ;p OEM stuff will also be up tonight/tomorrow.. just a FYI, I'm going to only put up the zip files now instead of both zip + uncompressed..

EDIT: and after a quick look, I didn't see anything particularly amazing... but I don't remember seeing a few things including jazz pulling himself up on a ledge..

[TaZaR]

Thanks much, IM! :)

[aokmaniac13]

EDIT: and after a quick look, I didn't see anything particularly amazing... but I don't remember seeing a few things including jazz pulling himself up on a ledge..

I smell a Commander Keen mod in the near future ^_^
(It's my idea don't steal it >_< )

[Ice M A N]

I smell a Commander Keen mod in the near future ^_^
(It's my idea don't steal it >_< )

Well.. it WAS the first thing I thought of when I saw the anim. :p but I never had any intention of making it..

It looks like one(?) animation set didn't extract right, so I'm going to look into that before I upload everything.. but first.. off to get some food. If I can't fix that set, I'll at least upload everything else sometime tonight..

[Doubble Dutch]

Yoink!

Its interesting to see the various things hidden away stolen from other games

[By the looks of it that door was perhaps part of some unused level exit animation]

[UNKNOWNFILE]

Woah. Tis cool.

PAGECLAIM IN THE NAME OF http://unknown.halleyscometsoftware.com/ NEEDING MORE SPACE ON THE SERVER

[Ice M A N]

OK.. you can now pick your poison at http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/jj2/

There are still a couple slightly messed up things in there, but I'm definitely not going to get another chance to do any work on this within the next few days.. schoolwork is building up :P

[MTK]

Ice M A N's rips are awesome, but I find something else he said interesting:
I came up with a sprite (and sound effects and tileset) extractor..
I've ripped a bunch of sounds from the game myself, using utilities to record my sound card output etc. but naturally nothing I do like this can match sounds directly taken from the game data.

How would I go about ripping the sounds myself, or failing that could you upload a zip of all the sounds?

[Jerrythabest]

someone should make a program that can ripp everything out of anims.j2a, convert to and from .j2b, does something useful with .j2d, can make .j2e, show/edit .j2h, create .j2i for a server in the serverlist, edit .j2m (useful for cheaters), edit/create .j2s, convert to/from .j2t and convert to/from .j2v ALL IN ONE! Thanks for making.

EDIT: oh, yea, this is no joke! A program like that would be very useful!

[Stijn]

.j2a - Everything's already ripped
.j2b - Done by Dr Eggman
.j2e - there's already a program for that
.j2h - highscores, right? why would you want to?
.j2i - it's just a text file with an IP address in it
.j2t - Ice M A N confirmed he figured out the format already
.j2v - ddflc
.j2m - JJ2 can do that itself

That leaves .j2d, which Ice M A N was already making progress on, right? Then someone only needs to integrate it all into one program 8D

[Jerrythabest]

Eggman isnt done, and these are not one program. J2h and J2i.. its just useful if you would be able to easily edit those silly low scores and for J2i it is useful to make a file with one click.. but I just said it cuz I didnt want to skip any filetype. Now get to merge these to one program and im happy:) btw, if Eggman is done, then give me a link of his final version. The version I have now is sucky!:(

[Ice M A N]

.j2a - Everything's already ripped: No. The sound effects are in there, actually. Plus some other not-too-important stuff.. I'll get around to ripping the sounds sooner or later. I need to write a program to convert JJ2's sample format to something like wav or a module.. right now I just play the raw data in a sound player I wrote...

.j2d - There's very little useful stuff:
ogLogo.ColorLUT
Menu.ColorLUT
Shield.Plasma
SoundFXList.Ending
SoundFXList.Intro
SoundFXList.P2
SoundFXList.Logo
Menu.Texture.128x128
Menu.Texture.32x32
Menu.Texture.16x16
Tiles.Order
Tiles.Offset
Credits.Palette
Order.ShadeLUT
Order.Palette
Order.Newspaper
Order.Colors
ogLogo.Balls
Balls.Dump
Picture.OrderTexture128x128
Picture.Continue
Picture.CreditsEaster
Picture.Credits
Picture.Loading
Picture.Thanks
Picture.EasterTit
Picture.Title-XMas
Picture.Title
ogLogo.Palette
Std.Palette
Menu.Palette

These programs aren't going to be merged into one, and it's likely they won't be widely released anyway. (e.g. the j2e problem with JJ2 is why that isn't widely released)

[Jerrythabest]

yea, Jam's JJX should defenately have that fixed.

[Pako]

yea, Jam's JJX should defenately have that fixed.
Epic Games said what he can't, remember?

[cooba]

Epic Games said what he can't, remember?No, after Jam started his rebuiling process, he just got bored of it and searched for an excuse. FACE THE TRUTH :)

[Jerrythabest]

lol the only thing he has made was a castle background with the text 'DONATESPRITES' but I have a new battle plan and i am right now gonna say it to him.

[UNKNOWNFILE]

Hey Ice, I'm interested in this, could you tell me the format of the zlib files?

[Birdie]

:D i like the shield plasma :p

[Ice M A N]

Hey Ice, I'm interested in this, could you tell me the format of the zlib files?

Help someone known to crash JJ2 stuff with any of the internals of JJ2? Somehow I can't bring myself to do that... gg no re

But seriously.. it's easy stuff.. if you put like an hour into it you should have all the raw data.. or take like 5 minutes to modify some of dr eggman's code from his J2B article on j2o (what I originally did).. once you have the raw data it's just how good you are at finding patterns, etc..

If you can get at the raw data, I'll tell you what I know, etc..

[cooba]

Help someone known to crash JJ2 stuff with any of the internals of JJ2? Somehow I can't bring myself to do thatIcey WINS.

I think Eggman already got to extracting sounds from .j2a into single .wav's, by the way.

[Ice M A N]

I think Eggman already got to extracting sounds from .j2a into single .wav's, by the way.

Fair enough. It isn't difficult, just he actually has experience with sound formats and code he could reuse... Do you know if he plans on releasing them or the tools?

[cooba]

Fair enough. It isn't difficult, just he actually has experience with sound formats and code he could reuse... Do you know if he plans on releasing them or the tools?No idea myself. You can always try to contact him yourself too though :).

[UNKNOWNFILE]

Help someone known to crash JJ2 stuff with any of the internals of JJ2? Somehow I can't bring myself to do that... gg no re

Please proceed to eat (-).

But seriously.. it's easy stuff.. if you put like an hour into it you should have all the raw data.. or take like 5 minutes to modify some of dr eggman's code from his J2B article on j2o (what I originally did).. once you have the raw data it's just how good you are at finding patterns, etc..

Includes don't work in VC++.

If you can get at the raw data, I'll tell you what I know, etc..

No need to. I can just get it off Nebula. ;)

[Ice M A N]

Fair enough.

But based on your fun with C++ thread and you thinking that "Includes don't work in VC++", I doubt you'll have a lot of success. Best of luck anyway.

[Marijn]

Nice. Thanks for the sprites :)

[Baggers]

[accidental post]

[Jerrythabest]

release a beta version soon plz

[Baggers]

As much as I appretiate the enthusiasm lets not move out of topic...I have my thread which, until the site is back online, I my way of reporting to you all...go there !

[Ice M A N]

Battery Check Sprites: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/bc/BatteryCheckSpriteRips.zip
and thanks are due to Cooba

[n00b]

Thanks root to me for giving Cooba the game.
EDIT-Nice to see theres unused sprites in Battery Check as well.

[Jerrythabest]

can someone give me more information about Battery Check? I wonder what it is..

[Doubble Dutch]

Its a Dutch game starring an cute electric thingy guy, you have to run around recharging yourself and avoiding all the evil elctrics that kills you. The demo is free!

[Can you rip those anamaniacs game sprites?]

[Stijn]

Jerrythabest, see http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/wiki/?Battery_Check for more info about Battery Check.

[Pako]

Battery Check Sprites: http://www.princeton.edu/~mspear/bc/BatteryCheckSpriteRips.zip (http://www.princeton.edu/%7Emspear/bc/BatteryCheckSpriteRips.zip)
and thanks are due to Cooba
"chris is a redneq" message and frozen destruct block in BC? Weird...

[Ice M A N]

[Can you rip those anamaniacs game sprites?]

Probably. I'd need the j2a file (and either a tileset or a screenshot..)... mspear at gmail dot com if you feel like emailing it (and a link to an exe of the game installer or whatever won't cut it.. on a mac..)

[n00b]

All the stuff that was Unused in Batteryman's sheet. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/unusedbc.png)

[Pako]

All the stuff that was Unused in Batteryman's sheet. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/unusedbc.png)
You forgot the "chris is a redneq" message and the JJ2 frozen destruct block.

[cooba]

You forgot the "chris is a redneq" message and the JJ2 frozen destruct block.No he didn't. He clearly stated that his stuff was what left unused in the Batteryman sheet.

[Pako]

No he didn't. He clearly stated that his stuff was what left unused in the Batteryman sheet.
Oh, sorry, you are right.

[Birdie]

;) i know this thread isn't about "ripping" sprites so should i still rip the chuck head sprites?

[n00b]

Considering A- It was ripped Pre-iceman, and B)- Ripping past Post-iceman is useless since it's already in a sheet for you, i don't see why you would.

[aokmaniac13]

I wouldn't mind if you ripped every frame one by one and stuck them in a GIF in order to obtain perfect image alignment.

[Doubble Dutch]

Indeed, go do that.

Probably. I'd need the j2a file (and either a tileset or a screenshot..)... mspear at gmail dot com if you feel like emailing it (and a link to an exe of the game installer or whatever won't cut it.. on a mac..)

Umm, game installer? Not sure where that is, but I can send the anims file and a screenshot. I suppose I could zip the game too, but its friggin huge.