LMAT (May/June)

[cooba]

...hooray. Remember to read the rules - most of them are now clarified and improved. Also, the production process is now different. During the first three days, you are supposed to draw up your own initiative tiles (don't go overboard, either), and then everyone may work on the tileset as a whole with those tiles which work best.

Adding tiles from the previous LMAT editions is not allowed.<li>There are no official color restrictions. You may draw in 8-bit, 16-bit, or however you want. When updating the tileset, you may also edit existing tiles - this includes changing the colors, making them bigger, fixing small bugs, changing the shading, etc. If you have already successfully contibuted to the tileset, and think that some of the tiles should be deleted from the main tileset image, you may initiate a vote for removal of those tiles. You have to precisely indicate that you're initiating a vote, and which tiles (or sections of tiles) you want removed. The voting period is two days long, and a 75% (3/4) majority of YES votes is required for the desired tiles to be removed. You may not initiate a vote for another two days after the previous voting period. If an addition <zapper> is below the whole tileset's quality standard, it may be removed without the voting process. You may delete your own tiles at will, unless they're heavily integrated with the rest of the set. The vote's outcome isn't acceptable if no one has voted. Do not include a Palette tile. Please refrain from posting textured backgrounds until we have an idea of what the tileset is like. If you really do not want some of your tiles to be edited, for whatever reason, specify this clearly, but keep in mind that people might then not use your tileset at all. Logical content rules apply. Do not use the tileset to contain attacks against other people, pornographic or oherwise illegal images, links to illegal web-sites, or stuff like that. Use your common sense. Enjoy, and don't be afraid to ask questions!

[n00b]

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Letsmakeatileset/May/lmatmayconcept.png

Thats a concept I've done before working on any actual tiles.
If you have no idea what the place is, go re-read the JJ1 in-manual comic.

[Stijn]

That reminds me... what about an Intergalactic Repneck Bar tileset?

[Fawriel]

So much for my plans of Ancient Greek pillars and stuff. ;/

[Stijn]

That sounds awesome too. Let's go for a hybrid })

[Birdie]

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Letsmakeatileset/May/lmatmayconcept.png

Thats a concept I've done before working on any actual tiles.
If you have no idea what the place is, go re-read the JJ1 in-manual comic.
Please not somthing else with teal ground :|

[Odin]

Hey, the Rat planet from the JJ1 backstory has no real design. Let's make it Grecian, with yellow grass! And some rock mines. I'll draw up some concepts right now...

[n00b]

Please not somthing else with teal ground :|
Please go back in time and tell Nick Stadler that.

[Odin]

And Dean Dodrill for that matter too.

[Birdie]

Please go back in time and tell Nick Stadler that.
I will, But I doubt they will listen :(

EDIT:
Haha I went back in time but they didn't listen, I sorta proposed pink ground though.

<this message is very extremely lawl'd!>

[Fawriel]

That sounds awesome too. Let's go for a hybrid })
There's weird, and there's WEIRD...

...anyway, I agree with "Please not somthing else with teal ground" and, personally, I'm not too fond of the yellow grass, either, but if you manage to not make it look ugly, I'll be fine, I guess.

[CrimiClown]

OMG rats! =D =D =D

I'll draw up something as soon as I see a little developement. :)

[n00b]

There's weird, and there's WEIRD...

...anyway, I agree with "Please not somthing else with teal ground" and, personally, I'm not too fond of the yellow grass, either, but if you manage to not make it look ugly, I'll be fine, I guess.
I was mostly using pallete choices from the JJ2 pallete. I think the land in the JJ1 comic is a bit paler.
Of course I'd feel a bit better if you changed the yellow, seeing as you have some expertise in the color.

[Fawriel]

Thanks, but.. if by "change the yellow" you mean "find another hue of yellow that looks better", that won't do much to change my opinion. It's got something to do with human perception; yellow grass looks sick and/or unnatural, so it's perceived as ugly.
But if we're going for a comical tileset, why not.

[n00b]

I also failed to point out that it's not grass altho it probably looks that way in my atempt to replicate the nifty zig-zags from the comic
It's more just plain rock ground, that or insanely flat grass.
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic1.jpg
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic2.jpg

[Fawriel]

Oooh. I didn't quite remember that comic, I thought that was the planet with the bar on it.
While we're at it, we might as well include all the locations and everything from those comics into the tileset... now that can be worked with.

[n00b]

Since I guess our theme is the JJ1 comic, here's links to the pages of the comic
Page 1 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic1.jpg)
Page 2 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic2.jpg)
Page 3 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic3.jpg)
Page 4 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic4.jpg)
Page 5 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic5.jpg)
Page 6 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic6.jpg)
Page 7 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic7.jpg)
Page 8 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic8.jpg)
Page 9 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic9.jpg)
Page 10 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic10.jpg)
Page 11 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic11.jpg)
Page 12 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic12.jpg)
Page 13 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic13.jpg)
Page 14 (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic14.jpg)

[Birdie]

It's more just plain rock ground, that or insanely flat grass.

Then, lets keep it "rock" and not grass.

[Raven aka StL]

Make a rat infested mine :lol:
It is a good idea with a somewhat hilarious finish ;)
also u could make Devans base in the same tileset...

but what am I doing talking <s>what prolly sounds terrifying</s> to you tileset maker pro's :(

bye

[Jerrythabest]

thanks for reminding me about LMAT threads, it's 28 days to the start of the LMAT autumn.. I forgot to write it down:) I'll wont bother you guys as much as I did before :)

[n00b]

Um, The fall is like 5 months away Jerrythanotbest

[Jerrythabest]

im jerry *

[Marijn]

aaahgss.. * Marijn pukes.

Anyway, I don't really know how Lmat works, can everyone "donate" tiles?

[Jerrythabest]

yes.

[Alister]

Grass attempt N˚1:
<img src="http://treacle.hewwo.com/jazz/lmat/ygrass1.png" />
Edit: Fixification

[Jerrythabest]

doesnt look that bad, really

[cooba]

Looks a bit like some spikes.

[Jerrythabest]

yeah, if you take some away and make the other spikes a little bit bigger (and maybe add a 'bling' animation) you're done! :)

[n00b]

I thought you weren't going to bother us this much, jerry.

Stop lieing to us D:

[Jerrythabest]

lol sorry :lol:

[KRSplat]

Um, The fall is like 5 months away Jerrythanotbest
Seasons are different in different places.

[ThunderPX]

Seasons are different in different places.

Yes, but Jerry lives in the Netherlands. =p

[CrimiClown]

Make <s>love</s> tiles and listen to the music... (8)

[Doubble Dutch]

No! Don't listen to him! War is the only way!

[KboutR]

Ground tile added:
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/3803/lmatlmat4ue.png

And no, it's NOT a cave tile ;)

[Jerrythabest]

nice <strike>cave</strike> tile

[cooba]

Uh, I don't like the tile too much. The black->teal gradient strikes me as somehow not looking too good, and besides it looks too much like Exoticus' ground tiles.

[Jerrythabest]

hmm I find it look nice however :s

[Birdie]

hmm I find it look nice however :s
I do not either. :p

[n00b]

I still don't like the grass, it'd be better if it was rock.
When I said insanely flat grass I was poking fun at everyone who called the ground grass.

[minmay]

I think the gradient looks fine, it just doesn't go with the ground all too well.

[Jerrythabest]

you cant change my mind! :p:p:Z :Z :Z


pageclaim in the name of that tile being added.

[minmay]

Aww, forgot to claim this page. D=

[cooba]

So far I don't see people particularly excited about this tileset... that means we will either have to get to work with KBoutR's and TB's tiles (which pretty much clash style-wise?), or either I will have someone to draw some random tiles and we would work on them. Just let's do anything, I don't want this to become the second September and I'm pretty sure no one else does.

[Fawriel]

Aaah, hold it, hold it! I can try to draw some ground tiles.

Anyone like the idea of cartoony style?

[n00b]

Yes, I back the idea of a cartoony style for this set 200%.

Remember our inspiration is coming from what is essenitally a WB cartoon in comic form.

[Birdie]

Aaah, hold it, hold it! I can try to draw some ground tiles.

Anyone like the idea of cartoony style?
Yes, If it is cartoony I might help alot. :D

[CrimiClown]

Am I the only one who really reads "Intergalactic Redneck Bar" in comic four (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic4.jpg) instead of 'Repneck'?

[Fawriel]

..that would make a lot more sense, too.

[P¼ul]

<a href="http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6394/lmat6af.png">new ground<a/>

and sorry for being a (-) and not actually cropping the image

[R3ptile]

you like green

[Fawriel]

Aw crap, I completely forgot that I sort of promised some ground tiles.. but my attempts right now don't seem to be bearing any fruit, really..


EDIT: To be more exact, this (http://chaos.foxmage.com/Namenlos.bmp) is my best attempt so far.. ..it looks sort of pretty, but is definitely useless for a tileset.
Sorry.

[CrimiClown]

..that would make a lot more sense, too.
Which could be a referrance to Chris, being called a Redneq in the famous 'hidden' sprite.

Woohoo! Frost, discoverer of the Intergalactic Redneck Bar!

*cough*

Paul, those ground tiles look nice, but it sorta lacks the cartoon style... I like it, though, and wouldn't mind too much if we continued with that... Although more people would have to agree for me to use those and make new tiles...

[Jerrythabest]

great tiles, p4ul!

[n00b]

Am I the only one who really reads "Intergalactic Redneck Bar" in comic four (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic4.jpg) instead of 'Repneck'?
I think thats the point. The p looks like a Flipped and Mirrored d. It might be Nick poking fun at people making words seem "sci-fi" by just changing one or two letters of a normal word. Maybe.


I also like Faw's tiles.

[CrimiClown]

I think thats the point. The p looks like a Flipped and Mirrored d. It might be Nick poking fun at people making words seem "sci-fi" by just changing one or two letters of a normal word. Maybe.
Compare "D" to "p"... They don't differ much... It could be just a little too quickly drawn... ;)

I'll just keep calling it Redneck because Chris is a redneq!

[n00b]

Nick has a fairly consistant handwriting style, I don't any of his D's have that line seen in the Repneck logo. Or it could 'Rep'neck for 'Red'neck 'Rep'tiles.

... They have Cola Beer! I want some at my local bar.

[cooba]

Or how about we make grass tiles useable as a 3D plane and make ancient Greek temples to be put atop the 3D grass!

[n00b]

Or how about we make grass tiles useable as a 3D plane and make ancient Greek temples to be put atop the 3D grass!
http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/files/images/Objection1.thumbnail.jpg

[CrimiClown]

Nick has a fairly consistant handwriting style, I don't any of his D's have that line seen in the Repneck logo. Or it could 'Rep'neck for 'Red'neck 'Rep'tiles.

... They have Cola Beer! I want some at my local bar.
You forgot a few verbs...
http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/files/images/Objection1.thumbnail.jpg
But this makes up for it. :D

[Birdie]

I also like Faw's tiles.

[NeonPSY]

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1391/bettertilesthanallyours0mx.png

Uh, Just a shot at it.

[n00b]

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic1.jpg

It's NOT grass.

[Radium]

But if it was rock, why would the gift be of any significance?

There's only one answer: It's made of PLASTIC. I vote for Faw's tiles, even though the acid colors would burn out the player's retinas after a bit.

[NeonPSY]

It's a cartoon, whos to say isn't grass? Besides, we can change things can't we? (example: last LMAT somehow got a castle in it.)

[Fawriel]

..if someone finds a way to use my tiles, feel free to..
..hmmm, I'll have to talk with Radium about this<s>, since I'm too lazy to figure it out myself</s>.

[Jerrythabest]

I like neon's tiles =) if you guys like faw's, why not add both? :lol:

[Birdie]

I like neon's tiles =) if you guys like faw's, why not add both? :lol:
We wouldnt add both because that would be weird.

[Jerrythabest]

it would be weird to use both in one level :Phow bout making a v2?:lol:

[n00b]

It's a cartoon, whos to say isn't grass? Besides, we can change things can't we? (example: last LMAT somehow got a castle in it.)
Because Nick's grass and rocks have a signifacnt difference.
Compare This grass (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic13.jpg) to the rat planet's surface (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Comics/jj1comic2.jpg)

[NeonPSY]

http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/4185/bettertilesthanallyours4ny.png

Grassless. Basicly used Faws and added crap.

[cooba]

Or how about we make yellow rock tiles useable as a 3D plane and make ancient Greek temples to be put atop the 3D grass!<!---->

[Birdie]

http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/4185/bettertilesthanallyours4ny.png

Grassless. Basicly used Faws and added crap.
*Whistle noise*

[Cheese]

This is somewhat of what I was thinking..

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4764/yes4ec.png

Just something I conjured up in psp.

[blurredd]

Does it have to be yellow and green?

[Doubble Dutch]

Yes. re comic.

It's a cartoon, whos to say isn't grass? Besides, we can change things can't we? (example: last LMAT somehow got a castle in it.)

Its a primitive form of ground lichen; it covers the entire ground in a leafless monocolored matt of vegetation about an inch thick and feels like soft linoleum.

Jazz should be aware those rocks contain rhodium ore and are thus worth approximately $500 a gram.

[Jerrythabest]

now I like neon's second tiles best :d

[Fawriel]

This LMAT seems to be encountering an interesting new problem.

[cooba]

Or how about we make yellow rock tiles useable as a 3D plane and make ancient Greek temples to be put atop the 3D grass!!!!!

[Fawriel]

Or how about we make yellow rock tiles useable as a 3D plane and make ancient Greek temples to be put atop the 3D grass!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually like the idea. Although Greek temples don't particularly fit in there. Something similar would be cool and could catch the plateau-y appearance of the planet.

[n00b]

Something like an old mine, or an aztec temple.

[Jerrythabest]

hmm nice idea: make old mine transport things like railroad tracks, lifts, belts with diamonds moving on them (GEMS.) which you can all use for 'automatic movement' (sucker tubes over the railroad track, float up in lifts, belt events on belts) =) how sad I suck at drawing

[CrimiClown]

Something like an old mine, or an aztec temple.
Old mine theme sounds fantastic, in my opinion. :)

[minmay]

http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/4185/bettertilesthanallyours4ny.png

Grassless. Basicly used Faws and added crap.

No offense, but man, does that look bad. It's too sponge-like.

I like Cheese's ground, it's just a bit brightly colored.

[n00b]

None of the yellows match the pale yellow in the comic.
Make the yellow paler.

[Birdie]

Does it have to be yellow and green?
No, it doesn't and I would be glad if it wasn't.

[Jerrythabest]

let's make it pink and purple =D

I like yellow+blue and green+orange best, but I don't really care if it remains yellow green:P

[NeonPSY]

I think a bunch of people should make ground tiles...then we vote on the best?

[cooba]

I think a bunch of people should make ground tiles...four people isn't a bunch for you?

[Jerrythabest]

I think not, that's a crowd.

[CrimiClown]

I think not, that's a crowd.
Dear Diary,
I have noticed why so many people have left the JCF in such a short time.

[n00b]

No, it doesn't and I would be glad if it wasn't.
Yes it does.
Thats like saying "We're making a Pokemon Tileset" and the whole tileset is just composed of two girls having sex.

[NeonPSY]

Yes it does.
Thats like saying "We're making a Pokemon Tileset" and the whole tileset is just composed of two girls having sex.

There is a tileset like that?

Anyways,

We'd better vote then. Unless anyone plans on making a different set of ground tiles?

[n00b]

Let's wait one more day for any more ground tiles, and then commence the voting

[Radium]

There is a tileset like that?
Yes, actually. I'm not joking.

[CrimiClown]

Let's wait one more day for any more ground tiles, and then commence the voting
I like P4ul's tiles best so far... ;)

[Violet CLM]

<img src="http://www.tachyonlabs.com/sam/labRAT.png">

[CrimiClown]

<img src="http://www.tachyonlabs.com/sam/labRAT.png">
...and I don't blame you... ;) Although I doubt people would want to work with yet ANOTHER recolour of Labrat... :p

[NeonPSY]

I'd use them. Besides, if we add more original material, it won't look so much like Labrat. But, I really don't care what type of ground we use. As long as it looks good.

[n00b]

I have to admit, Labrat's ground tiles are proving to be most versitle. I've noticed they are also akin to Muckamuk's ground tiles a bit.

[CrimiClown]

Ah well... I vote for the Labrat tiles! \o/ Let's make something awesome, shall we?

[NeonPSY]

Uh, I chose you Labratchu.

[Violet CLM]

o.O

Anyway, just a note, the JJ1 manual has a lot of pictures of some unknown planet in the background, with blue grass and green fire and various stuff. I would suggest that that be taken as the same planet as the rats', and thus incorporated.

[n00b]

The only Blue-and-Green planet can be seen from the rat planet itself.

[Doubble Dutch]

Yes, its near a black hole and the light gets bent round. If you go there in a spaceship you end up seeing the back of your own head.

[Birdie]

Yes, its near a black hole and the light gets bent round. If you go there in a spaceship you end up seeing the back of your own head.
=o Really?

[n00b]

So we're working with the Labrat edit, correct?

[NeonPSY]

Si.

[cooba]

Due to circumstances beyond my control (it was supposed to last 2 days, not a whole month....), the deadline is extended onto July 31st, 2006. So there will be actually two months to go rather than just one.

Also, you may want to actually start working, people.

[n00b]

Also, you may want to actually start working, people.
Said the pot calling the kettle black.

[CrimiClown]

Okay, let's do this.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7623/lmatmay0ik.png

[MSB3000]

Yes, actually. I'm not joking.

Prove it.

[CrimiClown]

Guys... :( Could we, like, start? :(

[Jerrythabest]

yeah, would be awesome. however, I don't really use the labrat tileset and thus I don't think I will ever use this.. ;) but of course I'm not the only one around here...

also, I wonder what was oftopic in my post :rolleyes:.. the topic at that point was a *special* tileset and I posted about that :confused:

anyways, I think LMAT's are going to fail from now on..maybe some people need to get some nice inspiration and in a year it's time for another one :lol:

[CrimiClown]

the topic at that point was a *special* tileset
For YOU, maybe, although the real 'topic' is the creation of tiles. Anyway, since nobody seems to care enough for this tileset to be actually contributing (if someone IS actually working on tiles, I don't mean to offend you), I'll whip up something next week...

[n00b]

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Letsmakeatileset/May/lmatmayhomgzupdate.png

Not the best update, but I'm working on Mine sceneary currently, and we despertly need something to keep the ball rolling

[Risp_old]

Personally, I think the theme is holding this LMAT back. The theme is a place with green-topped-by-yellow ground that is full of mice. It is not enough to make a tileset of.

I would help, but there's no way I could match the drawing style of official tiles. Not even close.

[n00b]

Personally, I think the theme is holding this LMAT back. The theme is a place with green-topped-by-yellow ground that is full of mice. It is not enough to make a tileset of.
You're also forgetting the Greek Mining shafts that may or may not have Aztec-esque ruins.

[Risp_old]

True, with imagination there is room for improvement.
We really need some non-labrat ground, though. I just tried matching that style. I failed. And since I doubt any of us can really get close to it, the main tiles of the tileset will go through the entire LMAT looking out of place.

[Jerrythabest]

right now it's just a 28-tile tileset, so whatever is added, it improves the tileset IMO.

[cooba]

<img src="http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5010/lmatmaymz2.png">

This is the fruit of 3 months full of extreme hard work. Great job guys :)

[P¼ul]

ty :)

[cooba]

Also, Stijn lies. This LMAT is closed.

[n00b]

Best LMAT ever. We should all be proud of ourselves.

[blurredd]

I say we start all over and base it off actual tiles (preferably not from another tileset) with a better theme instead of a vague comic theme about rocks.

[Birdie]

I second blur.

[FQuist]

Thirded.

[Jerrythabest]

fourthed:p :lol: