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Dermo
Mar 13, 2007, 09:47 AM
Wow this was weird. I was bored so i pulled out a beta version of jj2 that i have and it was weird as crap. The files (the exe, dat, and level) files were way smaller. The loading screen was so cool!

I had never played this beta jj2 1.00g version i had gotten. Well I look closer into it and the animations aren't near as cool as 1.2x but that's to be expected on beta. Well I know an abandonware site where u can download this beta version (i don't think 1.00g is shareware but i can't verify that). Also there was no JCS and the level files were .lev which suprised me.

Even so i see no point in making j2l files into lev files at this rate because it seems to make no sense why you'd wanna downgrade your jj2 levels and probably make them more unstable/cutdown then the original j2l files.

Last, I ran the 1.23 patcher on this game and it didn't detect my jj2 even when i directed it to the right folder it wouldn't let me click OK to start patching. I just thought i might throw out there that this could help pave the way for some neat stuff in the future.

Also I now see why they want j2l files converted to lev files. Smaller sizes for downloads. I also realized that anybody can get this copy of jj2. Just thought i'd throw in what I discovered about it and see what you all have to say.

mike231
Mar 13, 2007, 10:00 AM
Um, cool.

Camou
Mar 13, 2007, 10:12 AM
Screenshots =D and maybe some clips so we can see the animations?

Neobeo
Mar 13, 2007, 10:39 AM
Also I now see why they want j2l files converted to lev files. Smaller sizes for downloads.
Who are "they"? Also, I'd prefer to think J2L files are smaller in size.

Grytolle
Mar 13, 2007, 10:48 AM
Okay so this is one hell of a... topic full of errors

cooba
Mar 13, 2007, 11:36 AM
Nothing new.

n00b
Mar 13, 2007, 12:06 PM
... Last I checked the sprite animations for 1.00x and 1.2x are the same.

cooba
Mar 13, 2007, 12:09 PM
... Last I checked the sprite animations for 1.00x and 1.2x are the same.Gems? Uterus?

n00b
Mar 13, 2007, 12:19 PM
Gems? Uterus?

Thats right, forgot about those two, and the two soda cans have Pepsi and Coke labels in 1.00, but other than that theres really nothing different between the two that exceptionally makes 1.2x "cooler", unless Drmoo is a diehard Uterus fan.

Violet CLM
Mar 13, 2007, 12:43 PM
<a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/articles/view.php?articleID=206">Umm.... did you search at <i>all</i>?</a> The various beta versions have been talked about all over the place.

Dermo
Mar 13, 2007, 03:08 PM
Umm.... did you search at all? The various beta versions have been talked about all over the place.

no

Thats right, forgot about those two, and the two soda cans have Pepsi and Coke labels in 1.00, but other than that theres really nothing different between the two that exceptionally makes 1.2x "cooler", unless Drmoo is a diehard Uterus fan.

i'm talking about the gems and stuff...

Okay so this is one hell of a... topic full of errors

please do explain.

Screenshots =D and maybe some clips so we can see the animations?

Good idea. The only problem is it won't run windowed and if i take a screenshot at fullscreen, it'll come up completely black with nothing else but a black screen. But i did think of putting some up though

Who are "they"? Also, I'd prefer to think J2L files are smaller in size.

I don't remember. But overall .lev files are smaller but can't be edited.

Birdie
Mar 13, 2007, 03:12 PM
.lev files can obviously be edited, or they wouldn't be there, would they?
Also, I'm also pretty sure .j2l is smaller.

n00b
Mar 13, 2007, 03:39 PM
i'm talking about the gems and stuff...


Wow, you give a man some gem animations and he thinks the whole package is waaaay better.

KRSplat
Mar 13, 2007, 04:15 PM
Wow, you give a man some gem animations and he thinks the whole package is waaaay better.

There are a lot of gems in JJ2.

Murderbeam
Mar 13, 2007, 04:36 PM
Um, You mean there are rectangular gem animations?
That'd Be nice.

Violet CLM
Mar 13, 2007, 06:47 PM
Yes, there are. The sprites can, I believe, be viewed in the Diamondus Beta tileset.

Fawriel
Mar 13, 2007, 11:14 PM
Are there any screenshots of the old Uterus around? I've never seen that.

n00b
Mar 14, 2007, 10:02 AM
Extracted from JSD:
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Sprites/olduterus.gif
When he (she?) chased you, the sprite would rotate a bit so the tentacles would be in your general direction.

finnish pro
May 18, 2007, 01:30 PM
Screenshots, please.

Jerrythabest
May 18, 2007, 02:01 PM
I'll make some screenshots of interesting places in 1.00g (and 1.00h (and maybe also 1.10o)) and put them somewhere in a folder on a webserver or on my localhost Apache server so everyone can view them tomorrow, as it's quite late now and I'm now going off to sleep a bit ;p.

Doubble Dutch
May 18, 2007, 05:15 PM
Cool!

Dermo
Jun 4, 2007, 12:25 PM
I could tell you where to download 1.00g but i'd get arrested, banned, and post deleted for Warez so forget it.

Jerrythabest
Jun 4, 2007, 12:55 PM
Oh oops I forgot completely about those screens... I'll really make some next weekend ;p I promise! (and please remind me ;p)

ThunderPX
Jun 6, 2007, 06:45 AM
I could tell you where to download 1.00g but i'd get arrested, banned, and post deleted for Warez so forget it.

Actually, 1.00g is easier to find online than 1.20 or above.

Jerrythabest
Jun 6, 2007, 08:24 AM
and that's rather sucky, as you'll need 1.20 or newer to play online so it won't bring new players ;p

n00b
Jun 6, 2007, 08:53 AM
Actually 1.10o allowed for online play.

Jerrythabest
Jun 6, 2007, 09:00 AM
oh, yeah ;p though it's really unstable

FQuist
Jun 6, 2007, 09:55 AM
That doesn't mean you'd be able to play with 1.20-1.23 clients since the patch wouldn't work.

Krouxer
Jun 27, 2007, 01:35 PM
Could you show us a screenshot, here..?

Jerrythabest
Jun 27, 2007, 01:42 PM
Well, I got some screens but I have some problems with my Apache server but I'll try to get them up asap ;)

Dermo
Jun 28, 2007, 09:34 AM
OMG leave this thread alone. I was tired! I wasn't thinking straight. I thought it was neat just because it was different. But I mean come on! People always thinking different things are cool. Like when Cherry Coke changed it's logo or whatever that picture thing was on the cans, I thought that was neat. So leave this thread alone! The only things that's really cool is the loading screens.

And Jerry, use photobucket.com i use them to store my pictures and i've never had an issue.

Jerrythabest
Jun 28, 2007, 10:49 AM
I prefer to host most things myself, as I can easily add and change stuff then... only things that need to be up 24/7 are uploaded ;) thanks anyway ;)