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FreeLance
Mar 25, 2007, 05:29 PM
A parody of <b><i>La trahison des images</i></b> (Magritte) and <b><i>Skrik</i></b> (Munch).

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/flusht/the-high-seas-echo.jpg

Fawriel
Mar 25, 2007, 07:09 PM
Cool. =o

MoonBlazE
Mar 25, 2007, 11:23 PM
An explanation to the part that makes sense would be appriciated.

Anaiyu
Mar 25, 2007, 11:51 PM
Cool Thread......

Stijn
Mar 26, 2007, 12:49 AM
An explanation to the part that makes sense would be appriciated.

http://www.luc.edu/depts/history/dennis/Visual_Arts/10-Express_Munch_The-Scream.jpg + http://cours.funoc.be/essentiel/article/img151/magritte.jpg

FreeLance
Mar 26, 2007, 07:14 AM
An explanation to the part that makes sense would be appriciated.

See Stijn's post.

For my own personal explanation..
I wanted to do some sort of parody of the concept of "This is not a pipe" - while the concept is a grand one, it also wreaks to me of the pompous nature of Art. I originally just drew a cigarette - but it didn't matter, anything that really was not a pipe would have worked. I decided then to go even further from a pipe, and how better than to crudely draw a rough, crappy version of another classic piece of Art?

ShadeJackrabbit
Mar 27, 2007, 01:20 PM
Interesting... the guy looks like he's shouting the caption out. Wouldn't that be weird in a crowd?

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4255/nopipesy4.jpg

FreeLance
Mar 27, 2007, 04:42 PM
roflmaol

i'm honored.

ShadeJackrabbit
Mar 27, 2007, 07:29 PM
Did in paint in about 2 minutes. (If you don't count web searching time.)

Fawriel
Mar 27, 2007, 09:16 PM
Let's make it an internet meme! \o/

DoubleGJ
Mar 28, 2007, 06:11 AM
*reposts the image fifty times*

Xobim
Mar 29, 2007, 06:05 AM
Ahem...
<img src=http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/comicsceam1.png>

FreeLance
Mar 29, 2007, 11:29 AM
EXCEPT that the subject was likely the ARTIST so that comic makes NO SENSE

(yes, I know, it's a joke - i'm FURTHER MOCKING ARTISTES)

Radium
Mar 29, 2007, 12:15 PM
FURTHER MOCKING Wow, misread that. Was that intentional?

Anyway, I wanted to respond to Zapper's post with "It depends on the context." and have a picture of the cops busting into the house of a man doing drugs who is saying "this ain't no pipe!", but couldn't find a suiting picture.

FreeLance
Mar 29, 2007, 12:55 PM
heh. It wasn't intentional, but my mind keeps further mocking it up if you follow the fun duck.

ShadeJackrabbit
Mar 29, 2007, 02:11 PM
Anyway, I wanted to respond to Zapper's post with "It depends on the context." and have a picture of the cops busting into the house of a man doing drugs who is saying "this ain't no pipe!", but couldn't find a suiting picture.

Checked screenshots for shows like CSI or Law and Order? I seem to remember something recent with drugs on one of those shows...

Erik
Mar 30, 2007, 01:03 PM
more like "This ain't no sugar"

FreeLance
Mar 30, 2007, 02:49 PM
except pipe.

ShadeJackrabbit
Mar 30, 2007, 06:06 PM
Pipe with sugar.

Doubble Dutch
Mar 30, 2007, 10:58 PM
Art is fine, but it does gather more than it's fair share of pretentious blowhards.

FreeLance
Mar 31, 2007, 05:30 AM
I love art - I am very much an artist, it's basically what I live for. I just find the art world entirely full of self-made 'genius' types and those who help make them thusly.

Stijn
Mar 31, 2007, 05:32 AM
Then are you an art lover, an artist, or both? Because, with all due respect, the picture in the opening post is not what I'd see as "art" :)

DoubleGJ
Mar 31, 2007, 06:02 AM
Art is a very flexible term.

Stijn
Mar 31, 2007, 06:05 AM
Oh yes, it is. In my opinion what mostly defines art is whether something was made with the intention of being art. And the Ceci n'est pas un scream doesn't look like that to me ;)

FreeLance
Mar 31, 2007, 04:14 PM
Oh yes, it is. In my opinion what mostly defines art is whether something was made with the intention of being art. And the Ceci n'est pas un scream doesn't look like that to me ;)

The picture in the OP is, I feel, a mixture of disdain and mockery (hence the titles), but also in being so a piece of art itself (as I made it with such an intention). I love art, but I disregard much of it and also have a distaste for much of it - the piece I posted was meant to represent certain parts of my disdain for art, and as such at the same time became a piece of art itself further making my point and being despicable to me. :)

One thing you must keep in mind is that when I make art, I make photography - when I use drawing or painting as a medium, it is when I am making 'punk' art or statements meant to mock art itself (or pop concepts, like my drawing I could never post here of a twisted 'domo-kun' with a large bizarre (-) and two breasts [titled, aptly, domo-(censored-sounds-like-kun)]).

I do not make fine art, but I make art.

Fawriel
Apr 1, 2007, 01:41 AM
"La trahison des images" isn't much more than a statement, either. On the other hand, a statement can be a lot.

Now Skrik is just awesome.

FreeLance
Apr 1, 2007, 05:35 AM
la trahison des images is an awesome piece of artwork, and i am particularly fond of its meaning and the concepts it deals with - however, at the same time it is also a prime example of how artists are made by other artists and art is accepted only by those who also create it and as such one can do something as simple as paint a picture of a pipe and declare it not a pipe to be considered 'art.'
(of course, the declaration is that it is actually a painting of a pipe, and to call it a pipe would be a lie - or possibly that the sentence itself is not a pipe, but rather a sentence, or some other variant of that concept)

It was for that reason I chose to use it in my mockery. It was primed, and ready.

Fawriel
Apr 1, 2007, 10:02 AM
Kaykay, then I guess I misunderstood.
Also, this discussion SO does not match with the caps. =D