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FreeLance
May 26, 2007, 12:59 PM
but now i am back.
with a new photo (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/56186239/)

model:girlfriend
i'm going to be uploading..quite a few more photos over the next days or so. keep a look out if you're interested, i'm not sure i'll be posting each time i get another one online.

Erik
May 26, 2007, 01:21 PM
put them on the same thread

FreeLance
May 26, 2007, 01:35 PM
of course, but my point is that i'm not sure i'll be posting each time i get one online.

Erik
May 27, 2007, 07:11 AM
i don't care, my point was that you have 3 threads already (or 2, whatever)

FreeLance
May 27, 2007, 08:11 AM
i don't care, my point was that you have 3 threads already (or 2, whatever)

so, what's your point?
my having 2 threads in the last 30 days (if you look, n00b has three and batty buddy also has two) means..absolutely nothing, so i'm not sure what is your point.
especially since my point was that i'm not sure i'll be posting each time i get one online.

Erik
May 27, 2007, 10:22 AM
forget it and get on with the pictures :::)))))

MoonBlazE
May 27, 2007, 03:55 PM
i'm not really sure what you're trying to show us with that photograph. you leave most of the space to the scenery that's bludged out to pancakes and then you have your girl on the left whos face is hardly angled in on the picture. if you're trying to show she's walking, you should get some more motion into the picture. if you're trying to show some emotion, you should play a little with the colors. if you're trying to show the girl, you should catch more of her face.

FreeLance
May 27, 2007, 09:33 PM
i'm not really sure what you're trying to show us with that photograph. you leave most of the space to the scenery that's bludged out to pancakes and then you have your girl on the left whos face is hardly angled in on the picture. if you're trying to show she's walking, you should get some more motion into the picture. if you're trying to show some emotion, you should play a little with the colors. if you're trying to show the girl, you should catch more of her face.

..i'm not sure i'm actually going to spend any time replying to this.
it's not to show walking, as she's standing still, it's not to show her as it's not a glamour shot, it's not to show the background as it's just some city buildings, and the emotion is only a slight part of the image itself as well.
i take photos i like to see - it's not a story, it's not a movie, it's not a character or anatomy study. it's just an image made up of colours, shapes, lines, and lighting.
that's what it is meant to show.
take a look at the rest of my photography and maybe you'll get what i'm saying.
i'm not a storyteller or movie director, nor am i a journalistic photographer that takes photos of happy old men with no teeth smiling for the camera. it's just shapes and colours, that's all. it's not a postcard.

Radium
May 28, 2007, 06:44 AM
I really agree with Blaze on all accounts. I know you're trying to be artistic, but it feels like you were trying to do a portrait and missed. This is 2/3 a blurry mess and 1/3 someone's shoulder. I'm not a huge fan of showing deep inner emotion in pictures, but this really doesn't show anything at all, even a subject.

Stijn
May 28, 2007, 08:04 AM
Let me agree too!

I find the picture somewhat uninteresting. The part on which the focus is is too small to be interesting or make you curious (it has to show something for that which it barely does here), and the rest is too blurred out to make you curious about what it could be. Such extreme blur can be very nice to emphasize the contrast between fore- and background for example but in this case I don't see the point of it. It looks like a random cut-out of a bigger picture instead.

Did you post-process the image to achieve this blur effect?

Why do you never use capitals?

MoonBlazE
May 28, 2007, 08:26 AM
..i'm not sure i'm actually going to spend any time replying to this.
it's not to show walking, as she's standing still, it's not to show her as it's not a glamour shot, it's not to show the background as it's just some city buildings, and the emotion is only a slight part of the image itself as well.
i take photos i like to see - it's not a story, it's not a movie, it's not a character or anatomy study. it's just an image made up of colours, shapes, lines, and lighting.
that's what it is meant to show.
take a look at the rest of my photography and maybe you'll get what i'm saying.
i'm not a storyteller or movie director, nor am i a journalistic photographer that takes photos of happy old men with no teeth smiling for the camera. it's just shapes and colours, that's all. it's not a postcard.
Considering that everything consists of "shapes and colors", I just asked you what shapes and what colors you want to show us. I described what I saw honest, if you think I don't understand it then help me to understand it. A small writeup on your thoughts about it beforehand, a short description, is all that is needed to better understand it. This isn't personal, I usually like your photographs and I assume you want critique since you're posting it here, I only give critique to help you improvise.

FreeLance
May 28, 2007, 08:55 AM
Did you post-process the image to achieve this blur effect?


the only edit made to the photo after it was taken was a darkening of the brightness and contrast and a shift of the colors toward blue from red.
why would i post-process a blur effect on a photo like this? that makes no sense.
the blur is (i would think this is obvious) caused by the lack of focus on the background.

I'm not a huge fan of showing deep inner emotion in pictures, but this really doesn't show anything at all, even a subject.

it's not meant to show deep inner emotion. it's simply an image made up of shapes and colors. it's not meant to show anything except for that which it is - an image. it's not an idea, it's not a photograph of a building or a person or a tree - it's just colors and shapes. that's all that it is meant to show.

there were other photos almost identical to this that were focused differently, some that were actual portraits, et cetera but i chose this one because of its simplicity and lack of anything as an early upload from my recent trip in that it was "safe" and i didn't have to decide if i liked the photo.

Radium
May 28, 2007, 09:15 AM
it's not meant to show deep inner emotion. it's simply an image made up of shapes and colors. it's not meant to show anything except for that which it is - an image. it's not an idea, it's not a photograph of a building or a person or a tree - it's just colors and shapes. that's all that it is meant to show.

Apologies, allow me to adjust my criticisms thusly:

Wow, Freelance! Very nice job using all those colors! All fifty-six thousand ninety two of them. And I like the shapes, especially the way some of them are rounder and others are more angular. The yellow septagon is my favorite.


Seriously, your photography is usually reasonably good, but this one fails to have any appealing qualities. Saying it wasn't "meant" to show anything doesn't make it any better, as I'm not judging it based on the goals you set for yourself. Uploading photos just for the sake of uploading photos will only bring down the quality of your gallery as a whole.

FreeLance
May 28, 2007, 09:41 AM
Apologies, allow me to adjust my criticisms thusly:

Wow, Freelance! Very nice job using all those colors! All fifty-six thousand ninety two of them. And I like the shapes, especially the way some of them are rounder and others are more angular. The yellow septagon is my favorite.


Seriously, your photography is usually reasonably good, but this one fails to have any appealing qualities. Saying it wasn't "meant" to show anything doesn't make it any better, as I'm not judging it based on the goals you set for yourself. Uploading photos just for the sake of uploading photos will only bring down the quality of your gallery as a whole.

sarcasm isn't needed.

i take photos that are pleasing to my eyes - some of them, people agree, many of them people disagree. it's what i do, it's what i enjoy doing. some are meant to be artistic, others are just things that catch my eye. i use my photography in the way many use a paint brush or a piece of writing - when i look at something, i see it differently from what it is. it's almost an annoying, semi-insane situation where i find myself forcing my eyes to focus where people do not normally focus (in this photo, the focus is on a bit of colored hair), or examining things from different angles - i literally see a photograph, or the possibilities thereof, in every glance i take.
because of this, reaction from others is mixed - sometimes it has a generic appeal, sometimes it has an artistic or conceptual appeal - others, it's just a blurry scene with a bit of pink hair.
i don't expect people to see things the way i do, i just take the photos i like to see.

i'm going to be uploading at least a couple of photos here in the next little bit (i've been sorting through the 250+ photos all morning), perhaps i'll go ahead and post a couple of them here.
although, i might just make another thread :god:

Stijn
May 28, 2007, 11:49 AM
the only edit made to the photo after it was taken was a darkening of the brightness and contrast and a shift of the colors toward blue from red.
why would i post-process a blur effect on a photo like this? that makes no sense.
the blur is (i would think this is obvious) caused by the lack of focus on the background.
I thought so, but I wasn't 100% certain, so I asked.

Can you please also answer my other question? I've been wondering about that for a while.

FreeLance
May 28, 2007, 12:54 PM
I thought so, but I wasn't 100% certain, so I asked.

Can you please also answer my other question? I've been wondering about that for a while.

how does it have anything, whatsoever, to do with this thread?
i've used proper capitalization now for at least a couple years steady and just got tired of it. i usually either use all proper capitalization or no capitalization - it comes and goes with my mood. lately, it's not there.

how that has anything to do with this, i do not know.

Fawriel
May 28, 2007, 01:25 PM
*skips all the fuss so far*

Well, I think it's not bad. I see what you intended there, but there's just a little detail that's wrong, and I'm not sure what it is.. maybe the angle she's shown at should be a few degrees further away or maybe you should have shown more of the face... hmmm... I'm really not sure.

Stijn
May 28, 2007, 03:08 PM
how does it have anything, whatsoever, to do with this thread?
i've used proper capitalization now for at least a couple years steady and just got tired of it. i usually either use all proper capitalization or no capitalization - it comes and goes with my mood. lately, it's not there.

how that has anything to do with this, i do not know.
I was just wondering... no need to get upset about it.

FreeLance
May 28, 2007, 04:17 PM
I was just wondering... no need to get upset about it.

o_O what are you talking about?

Radium
May 28, 2007, 05:18 PM
o_O what are you talking about?

<s>look stijn a cap!!!!</s>

FreeLance
May 28, 2007, 06:34 PM
look omg spam who knew

cooba
May 29, 2007, 03:56 AM
no need to get upset about it.There was no need to ask it here in the first place -_-