This forum is pretty darn lame nowadays [Archive] - JazzJackrabbit Community Forums

cooba

Jun 24, 2007, 11:51 AM

Get a moderator there, or something, or at least some basic rules for that forum instead of Newspaz's sticky which is kind of ancient now, because that forum is getting worse than the Comedy Cafe when it comes to the spam :/

I'm not going to call out any names but some people there would have already been banned, or at least warned a lot, if they'd be spamming this much in, say, General Jazz Talk or misc.

CrimiClown

Jun 25, 2007, 09:04 AM

When you got used to DSWorld like me, this forum is a spamless afterlife.

Dermo

Jun 25, 2007, 10:16 AM

This was a relevant post. isn't newspaz in GPW? So yes this was a relevant post. Is he banned? Because i'd hate to see him gone :(

Grytolle

Jun 25, 2007, 01:35 PM

What the (-), drmoo?

Dermo

Jun 25, 2007, 05:27 PM

Ugh what is this thread about cuz i've read through it about 30 times and I still don't get it.

From what i'm getting out of it, apparently Newspaz posted a thread saying "this forum is pretty lame nowadays" in the Clan Talk subforum. Then it got moved here and the original post got deleted and Cooba posted saying that the spam level's getting out of hand. It's really confusing and I think i'm wrong on that.

Stijn

Jun 25, 2007, 06:14 PM

It's as simple as the note on top said - this thread used to be in the clan talk forum but was moved here as this is the place for feedback, not that forum. As such the first post should be read like it was posted in the clan forum. Cooba may want to edit his post to suit this forum better but in my opinion it's clear enough this way already.

If you'd have bothered to check that forum you'd have seen "Newspaz's sticky" that was mentioned in the first post and it'd probably have been clear for you. Perhaps next time it'd be a good idea to think a little for yourself first before asking others to do it for you :)

As for the topic, I agree. However, the clan talk forum has always been more or less a special case, considering the very subject of the forum is prone to cause heated discussions and fights. I'll make sure it's discussed somewhere soon, may the other admins (or Newspaz himself) choose not to reply here.

Newspaz

Jun 26, 2007, 02:09 PM

Cooba's point is that the clan forum is a bit of a mess. A good example of it is my sticky thread that is quite outdated and has been on top of that forum for years now. It needs proper moderation.

R3ptile

Jun 30, 2007, 03:06 AM

I am here to volunteer!

R3ptile

Jun 30, 2007, 04:03 AM

i'll nominate R3p and Gry O+
Gry would be biased. I'm more neutral.

<s>And his signature is heavy and annoying.</s>

Grytolle

Jun 30, 2007, 04:11 AM

I'd apologize for my heavy signature were it not for the sexyness of Stijn

R3ptile

Jun 30, 2007, 04:12 AM

Just so you know, it wasn't originally my idea but I thought about it and decided to go for it. The Clan Talk forum does indeed need some proper moderation by someone who's involved and pretty active.

I am aware some people might say I have a history of flaming or however you'd call it but it's all behind me.
I believe you know what an influence I've had on the clan scene over the years, so no use for much reasoning here. I'll just say I do have a lot of experience moderating forums; larger and more active than Clan Talk.

Newspaz

Jun 30, 2007, 07:11 AM

On second thought, I think all it needs is a good clean up. It's not very active now anyway.

Grytolle

Jun 30, 2007, 07:33 AM

An idea would be that this moderator also worked with the tournaments forum, since those two are so closely related

People tending to take part in ever fight ever to happen should not come in question for the post

Dermo

Jun 30, 2007, 08:57 AM

I'm on everyday and I try to be the first to reply to USEFUL threads. Not to mention i OWN a forum (http://s13.invisionfree.com/Jazz_2_Forum/).

And I try to keep things pretty well under control over there but since it doesn't have many members I don't really look at it daily as opposed to this forum i check about once every waking hour of the day.

EDIT: When i'm tired sometimes I'll post some dumb comments but I try to keep myself from taking comments too far. And a lot of times you'll find a moderator delete another moderator's post.

cooba

Jul 1, 2007, 03:29 AM

Hint: I didn't want this thread to become a place for people to (-) for moderatorship ;|

Grytolle

Jul 1, 2007, 03:34 AM

The question would rather be if the admins of jcf think that's a good thing, though

Dermo

Jul 2, 2007, 05:29 PM

idk. But JCF has REALLY slowed down. I say a new script should be made. If anybody goes 1 year without logging on or a single post, that account should be deleted because there's way too many inactive members.

FireSworD

Jul 2, 2007, 05:53 PM

I am aware some people might say I have a history of flaming or however you'd call it but it's all behind me.
I believe you know what an influence I've had on the clan scene over the years, so no use for much reasoning here. I'll just say I do have a lot of experience moderating forums; larger and more active than Clan Talk.

This guy is active, has a lot experience, cares about the game and contributed more than most anyone here.

Dermo

Jul 2, 2007, 06:24 PM

oh yeah he's contributed just LOADS to the community

MoonBlazE

Jul 2, 2007, 06:39 PM

A moderator needs to be neutral and not take a biased stance in any discussion despising what clan the moderator is in and how the moderator is involved in the ongoing discussion.

A moderator needs to be willing to moderate for the sake of helping the forum's staff than the power it gives. A moderator or even an administrator is not more of a person than any other member on the forum.

A moderator needs to be able to teamwork and therefore understand the principles set by the other moderators, understanding the systems created for editing and trust the overall moderation regardless of personal stance.

I'm not sure why Newspaz stopped moderating the forum back then because I thought he was doing a good job. I won't and neither should take a stance on who of the recent 'applicants' would make a good moderator but I would like to say that if the staff really is short an active moderator for the clan forum, just to keep it clean from personal attacks and update sticky threads frequently, I'd gladly lend a hand – knowing and being friend of most of the staff beforehand personally interested in supporting Frank’s site more.

FireSworD

Jul 2, 2007, 08:31 PM

Although the above-stated rules are true, let us keep in mind the forum "leaders" are also human beings, not perfect machines bound to absoloute rules.

oh yeah he's contributed just LOADS to the community

I was about to prove your sarcastic statement wrong, but then I felt this aura of pointlessness. Why
should I bother correcting someone who has the facts easily available to him?

cooba

Jul 3, 2007, 01:12 AM

I'll be surprised if R3p manages to not be kicked out of powers in two months when he'll become a mod :roll:

Stijn

Jul 3, 2007, 01:42 AM

There's still no consensus about whether we are gonna appoint a moderator or not (Frank being away for a few days and such) but I'd like to point out that in the past moderators and admins have always been chosen on a "don't ask us, we'll ask you" basis - volunteering in this thread is quite pointless. Nor does it do any harm, of course :)

Vegito

Jul 3, 2007, 02:28 AM

Hint: I didn't want this thread to become a place for people to (-) for moderatorship ;|

^^.

Anyway, Newspaz, the forum isn't very active like for example General Jazz Talk indeed. Just when Clan Talk gets active, it's VERY active for a while and you get <s> flamewars/fights </s> discussions to take care of.

I guess admins can take care of this themselves <s> unless they are lazy =P</s>

Ah, and I guess "a new mod" should know a bit of how the JJ2 scene looks now a days. =P

Stijn

Jul 3, 2007, 02:29 AM

I guess admins can take care of this themselves <s> unless they are lazy =P</s>
Being the only active admin (Frank has mysteriously disappeared a while ago) I can assure you that it takes more time that what it looks like to take :P

Dermo

Jul 3, 2007, 07:12 AM

I will just subscribe to threads and put my cell phone's email address in. So that way I'll get an immediate alert saying I have a new post I need to look into. And when i'm on the road, I can use my PSP to sign in (like i've done before on a few occasions).

Vegito

Jul 3, 2007, 10:44 AM

Being the only active admin (Frank has mysteriously disappeared a while ago) I can assure you that it takes more time that what it looks like to take :P

Yeah well, I assumed there were more active admins these days.
Anyways, lets get some new mod then :D.
Wonder who's gonna be it

cooba

Jul 3, 2007, 11:10 AM

Anyways, let's get some new mod then :D."let's"?

Vegito

Jul 3, 2007, 12:12 PM

My grammar is bad, I know.
It can be either let or let's now anyways I think?

Grytolle

Jul 3, 2007, 12:29 PM

Let's => Let us <-correct grammar

I hope Cooba was meaning to ask about the content of what you said, Veg

cooba

Jul 3, 2007, 01:54 PM

Well, "let's get a mod" sounds like the community was the one nominating and choosing its own mods..

Vegito

Jul 4, 2007, 01:53 AM

Heh, that's not what I meant ;) I said to Stijn "get a new mod then" =P
Not that the community should nominate and choose the mods. :P

[GpW]Urbs

Jul 4, 2007, 09:14 AM

uhm, gry would do a good job imo. although i respect rep, I think gry is a lot better bcuz of his lack of temperament which we all love about rep, but which isn't really what you'd wanna see in a moderator on the clan subforum. especially since this part of jcf is probably the place where most of the rows get started...

but since im very inactive anyway, my opinion doesn't count for all that much anyway, besides I know both of them and I get along with both of them, so from my point of view any1 one of them is fine.

[GpW]Urbs

Jul 4, 2007, 09:20 AM

ohh and ya, what vegito said, get a new mod, don't ask us, show u can govern with an iron fist:)

btw vegito, isnt the dbz guy actually vegita?

Radium

Jul 4, 2007, 12:29 PM

Urbs;409207']btw vegito, isnt the dbz guy actually vegita?I feel dirty for knowing this, but Vegito was the result when Vegita and Goku fused.

R3ptile

Jul 4, 2007, 03:10 PM

I'll be surprised if R3p manages to not be kicked out of powers in two months when he'll become a mod :roll:
I usually take my job very seriously, I'll just assume you do not know me well.

FYI, I have never been fired out of ANY job I've ever been given..

R3ptile

Jul 4, 2007, 03:19 PM

Urbs;409205']although i respect rep, I think gry is a lot better bcuz of his lack of temperament which we all love about rep, but which isn't really what you'd wanna see in a moderator on the clan subforum.
I am not temperamental in contrary to the popular belief.. I just often tend to have "different" opinions. :)

..but let's remember how Gry often gets heavily furious when someone criticizes his clan.. which is something that is very likely to happen every now and then. Not to mention he does not even will to be a mod (as far as I know, at least), thus you folks may stop thinking we're competing each other here.

Peace.

FQuist

Jul 4, 2007, 05:11 PM

As Stijn has explained, you're not competing here, either. No-one is. Although the administration does of course listen to suggestions.

Dermo

Jul 4, 2007, 08:02 PM

I suggest Gry should be the new moderator in that case.

FQuist

Jul 5, 2007, 10:14 AM

I suggest you shut up and leave it to the staff already :)
I suggest you leave it to the staff to tell people what to say and what not to say. We value feedback so there's no reason not to propose people for moderatorship or have conversations about forum issues.

There's no reason to close this thread. Other than the spam created by people wanting it closed.

Speeza

Jul 9, 2007, 02:47 PM

the clan forum is ok as it is , as theres not much postage in it.

Odin

Aug 17, 2007, 02:13 PM

Why not just merge the clan forum with General Jazz Talk? There's only one thread in there with a post from this month (as of this writing). Separate forums should only exist if there is enough demand for one, and there's obviously not enough demand for a separate clan forum. I think Clan Talk and General Jazz could be merged together without any real pain.