Karrot Shire

[WadlCury]

http://karrotshire.acugordijn.nl/images/logo-web.png

Karrot Shire is an open world game based on Jazz Jackrabbit 2. In essentials, it is simply a large Jazz2 level with an add-on program. However, the scope of Karrot Shire is quite enormous, which is why we like to call it a 'game' instead of merely a 'level'.

In a way, Karrot Shire is like a 'hotel' or 'sandbox', because coins are still scattered everywhere and you can still buy houses and furniture if you wish it. However, this is not 'the point' of the game: you’ll have nearly 50 quests to complete in a GTA-style fashion.

Random Features
Very dynamic game world
Quests/Missions
Inventory
Secrets tracking
Saved games entirely managed by the Utility (offline)

The story
There you are, sitting inside a plane, on your way to your holiday destination. And then suddenly, your destination is changed. Your plane crashes on an island that belongs to a district on Carrotus called Karrot Shire. This is a place where many opportunities await you, but also many challenges. Life will not be easy, for a gang calling itself the 'Dark Hand' is gaining in strength and plotting the downfall of everything you see around you. Soon, you will find out that the plane was brought down for a reason…


Status
We have a completely revamped, though still unfinished version that works quite well. We will be making that available on J2O when we're satisfied with it. In the mean time, you can beta test KS if you want to (also see the post (http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?p=448653#post448653) later in this thread).


PS.
So, no more online accounts. The data will still be accessible if you wish to import it to the new version.

[HorvatM]

Quite revolutionary, I think. And it reminds me of my two other not-so-sophisticated projects I've been working on, but have cancelled for a while.
This sure will beat the crap out of Second Life.
One more thing, is this beta-test thingy at 11 AM or 11 PM?

[Superjazz]

I never was too keen on RPG or especially MORPG, but this one doesn't look like a mass-productioned hotel, and I might be even trying it out.

At least if Snooze decides to leave MS for this, I'll play it longer.

[R3ptile]

lol MS yeaa killin' mushrooms!!!!!1

Sounds promising.

[Stijn]

Sounds very nice. <del>How are you going to handle all this skills and shops et cetera? Are you using an external program?</del> <ins>*reminds self to read opening post better next time*</ins>

[SPAZ18]

Sounds really interesting. I have always loved RPGs like Final Fantasy & Paper Mario.
I downloaded the utility and have now signed up.
If I am free on the 16th, I'LL BE THERE! :cool:
Is this on at 10:00AM in the UK then?

[n00b]

Sounds a lot like Karazickle world, I'm in if my schedule is open

[Fawriel]

Holy krap.

Starting to really regret that I'm on a Linux system... once I get my JJ2 CD again and manage to actually install this game with Wine, it'll still be unlikely that this utility will work along with the game...

[WadlCury]

Hey, here Carrotpie speaking..

I have adjusted the time in the "When" part. Whe mean 11:00 IN THE MORNING (AM) , GMT+1.
For people in the UK : Yes, this means it will be online at 10:00 AM for you.

P.S. What do you mean with ms? =P

[Anubis]

RS wannabe :D

[CrimiClown]

Holy krap.

Starting to really regret that I'm on a Linux system... once I get my JJ2 CD again and manage to actually install this game with Wine, it'll still be unlikely that this utility will work along with the game...

Both work on Wine, JJ2 and the utility. That is, on Linux Ubuntu.

Anyway, as far as I know, if this runs on itself without server supervision, why can't you run a dedicated server? Just leave it on. :O

[FreeFull]

I can't wait.

[Yasco]

Interesting project. I wonder if the server could handle with this much people(and with lag like, for example, fake carrots).

[Birdie]

I've yet to find these 'anti cheating measures'.

[R3ptile]

I've yet to find these 'anti cheating measures'.
don't give people ideas!!

[WadlCury]

Of course, cheating can only be detected up to a certain point. But if you do it and you're caught (and that chance will hopefully be pretty substantial), there will of course be consequences.

And yes, we do have plans to set up a dedicated server. It would be great just to leave it running 24/7! We're not that far yet at this point, though.

[KRSplat]

Looks cool. I signed up.

[Violet CLM]

Sweet, I'll be out of classes by then. :D

[Dermo]

Not Found

The requested URL /login.php was not found on this server.

[WadlCury]

Fixed

[master sven]

P.S. What do you mean with ms? =P

Yea...?
Btw, the idea is cool. Just as with your vacation island you never finished...

[Cpp]

I've yet to find these 'anti cheating measures'.
Megawarp! ;)

[ahat]

I must say, it's an interesting concept.

[R3ptile]

Megawarp! ;)
don't give people ideas!!
:mad:

[Slaz]

Sounds interesting, I remember your Waddle Deluxe Hotel back in the days which was a great level (for a hotel). Atleast I think this one doesn't end up as another one of those noob hotels. I'll sign up!

[HorvatM]

I signed up, but for some reason I can't download the needed utility. (I think it's a problem with my network connection.)

Could you provide a Torrent file? (This would probably also decrease the bandwith usage.)

[FreeFull]

Erm, the utility crashes under Wine.

[Stijn]

MAYBE IT WASNT MEANT TO WORK WITH WINE AS IT WAS MADE FOR WINDOWS

AFTER ALL JJ2 WAS ALSO MADE FOR WINDOWS

JUST A THOUGHT <!-- linux -->

[Dermo]

Maybe you shouldn't break your own rules against flaming, Stijn.

[WadlCury]

More goodness!
We are planning to make a computer-controlled player (bot) that will be used to duel against in Karrot Shire. Still, not in 2007 I'm afraid. =)

[master sven]

I hope you can make a dedicated server in 2007, I think that's what we are all waiting for. ( I registered...)

[Superjazz]

A bot? This one caught my attention, tell us more please. Would it be possible to program one for jj2-multiplayer in general too?

[Nonomu198]

A bot? This one caught my attention, tell us more please. :O

I agree.
Anything can be better then the existing monsters in JJ2.

[Speeza]

More goodness!
We are planning to make a computer-controlled player (bot) that will be used to duel against in Karrot Shire. Still, not in 2007 I'm afraid. =)

Maybe someone will be you to it ;).

But anyway this is something new and wonderul for the community , I would like to say Good Job , I'm very interested in how this works , Il definenly be there this sunday.

btw how does it save your details , do we need to use the name , we did to sign up on the website. because I sighned up as speeza , but could i still wear my clan tag in the server. ;D

edit:what music is that on the vid ?

[cooba]

what music is that on the vid ?ElectroPiZZa - I Can't Think Of A Name

^(ictoan.it)

[WadlCury]

All your items, quest-progress etc is being tracked in the database.


And if people had misunderstandings about it :
You sign up on Karrot.here.ws with an username you like. Handy to use something that looks like what you allways use ingame.

Ingame, you just use whatever you type at the character-change screen.

And the music in the trailer is called I.C.T.O.A.N .

I hope I helped with that :)

Carrotpie

[Jerrythabest]

Looks funny. Might as well sign up before the 16th.

[WadlCury]

A bot? This one caught my attention, tell us more please. Would it be possible to program one for jj2-multiplayer in general too?

Well, the bot would be programmed specifically for a small arena in the level. Inside that area it would be aware of its surroundings and its opponent. Making a bot that can cope with all environments would require much more flexibility and coding. Perhaps, one day, when we get the jj2 source code...
Falcury

[Jerrythabest]

You mean perhaps in our dreams :(

[cooba]

You mean perhaps in our dreams :(http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/wiki/?Community%3A_Source_Code_Action_Plan
http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/wiki/?Community%3A_Source_Code_Retrieval_Letter

[HorvatM]

Why are you so obsessed with the source code? JJ2 is JJ2, what more do you expect? To call yourself a fan you should accept JJ2 with all its faults.

[FireSworD]

Why?

[master sven]

They should just send that letter right now :P. I might be there sunday...

[cooba]

They should just send that letter right now.............

...."they"?

[WadlCury]

Anyway, to get back on topic...

Why are you so obsessed with the source code? JJ2 is JJ2, what more do you expect? To call yourself a fan you should accept JJ2 with all its faults.

Karrot Shire is all about getting the most out of JJ2. Carrotpie and I are trying to build this system on top of JJ2 and hereby overcoming some of Jazz2's shortcomings. The utility is used to add extra functions to the game, so yes, in a way we are modifying the game heavily =)

Have you yet noticed the utility's auto-update system? It's going to be very handy to be able to have the utility update automatically, for example if there is a serious bug to be fixed.

[Olsen]

I applaud you for awesomeness.

This will rock.

[Birdie]

I already made a bot. (luls)
<!--The better one will come... eventually-->

[~NeonFire372~]

The utility crashes immediately in Vista. :/

[WadlCury]

The utility crashes immediately in Vista. :/

I'm using Vista aswell, and at first it didn't work... What does the error say? If it is complaining about the DLL file, go to karrot.here.ws , and at downloads, pick the DLL download. Put it in the directory the site says ( I can't remember which one ;-) )

Otherwise, please tell me what the error is about.


For the people who are interested in what the storyline goes about... Here is the introduction!
Storyline
A great day for the inhabitants of Carotus: The holiday season has started! Ordering tickets as fast as you can at Karrot Tours, you decide to go to a nice place called Karrot Shire.
The flight captain is as happy as allways. “Hey everyone, around now you should be able to see our destination!”
But as the plane draws closer to Karrot Shire, something seems to be wrong.
“I’m not getting any signal from the airport!” says the captain to the second captain. “Just try again.”
Suddenly, the plane starts to act strange, tilt and bump everywhere. “What happened?? All engines fell out at once!!” “Try the extra engines, quick!”
Pushing and pulling all buttons the captains could, but the plane did do nothing but fall down out of the sky.
“Ladies and gentleman, fasten your seatbelts!!”
Then all went quiet…
You looked around you. The plane was crashed, everywhere fire. Luckily enough, it seemed that no one got hurt! Leaving the crashsite, the inhabitants of Karrot Shire are kind enough to help you out, and slowly you discover that the crash has everything to do with a group of rabbits that want nothing but bad things…

I'm trying to get the storyline as good as it can be. I'm hoping that it will feature atleast 25 quests. And if you think thats not enough, there are allways side-quests to do!

Carrotpie

[~NeonFire372~]

I'm using Vista aswell, and at first it didn't work... What does the error say? If it is complaining about the DLL file, go to karrot.here.ws , and at downloads, pick the DLL download. Put it in the directory the site says ( I can't remember which one ;-) )

Otherwise, please tell me what the error is about.


For the people who are interested in what the storyline goes about... Here is the introduction!
Storyline
A great day for the inhabitants of Carotus: The holiday season has started! Ordering tickets as fast as you can at Karrot Tours, you decide to go to a nice place called Karrot Shire.
The flight captain is as happy as allways. “Hey everyone, around now you should be able to see our destination!”
But as the plane draws closer to Karrot Shire, something seems to be wrong.
“I’m not getting any signal from the airport!” says the captain to the second captain. “Just try again.”
Suddenly, the plane starts to act strange, tilt and bump everywhere. “What happened?? All engines fell out at once!!” “Try the extra engines, quick!”
Pushing and pulling all buttons the captains could, but the plane did do nothing but fall down out of the sky.
“Ladies and gentleman, fasten your seatbelts!!”
Then all went quiet…
You looked around you. The plane was crashed, everywhere fire. Luckily enough, it seemed that no one got hurt! Leaving the crashsite, the inhabitants of Karrot Shire are kind enough to help you out, and slowly you discover that the crash has everything to do with a group of rabbits that want nothing but bad things…

I'm trying to get the storyline as good as it can be. I'm hoping that it will feature atleast 25 quests. And if you think thats not enough, there are allways side-quests to do!

Carrotpie
I'm just impatient. I waited 20 seconds, it went into an update that took like 6 minutes to do on my infamously slow internet, locked up for another 20 seconds and worked. :confused:

[master sven]

.............

...."they"?

We*

[Speeza]

Why are you so obsessed with the source code? JJ2 is JJ2, what more do you expect? To call yourself a fan you should accept JJ2 with all its faults.

I agree , maybe we should make a cult called true jazz fans lol.

Anyway i want the 16th to happen faster! , this is gonna be a big event.

[Jerrythabest]

Big events need time to become big. Let's keep it the 16th.

[WadlCury]

We got reasons to wait 'till the 16th :) The level seems to be quite finished, but the utility needs some more time. We would like to make sure you have some quests to do to start with ;)
(doesn't the Storyline sounds cool or what? :P )

Oh and its great to see how many people allready have created an account! With Falcury and me in the server aswell, there would be 37 people!! If there come even more people signing up this week, we might put on a second server (too bad that we can't fit all in one server together =P)

[Odin]

Dunno if anyone posted it, but I made a convenient conversion table for JJ2 players to figure out when Karrot Shire starts:

GMT +2 (Israel): 12 AM
GMT +1 (The Netherlands): 11 AM
GMT 0 (England): 10 AM
GMT -4 (Newfoundland): 6 AM
GMT -5 (Eastern Standard Time): 5 AM
GMT -6 (Central Time): 4 AM
GMT -7 (Mountain Time): 3 AM
GMT -8 (Pacific Time): 2 AM

If you live in the US and are planning to join Karrot Shire when it opens, wake up extra early/stay up extra late.

[WadlCury]

The people in the US have nothing to worry, as I'll host Karrot Shire the whole day. I might have to go in the evening, where Falcury will (hopefully) pick up the server and host further. And like I said in my last post, we got two servers when things get crowded, and I'll just let the server stay on if there are too many people on the time I need to go.

[Odin]

The people in the US have nothing to worry, as I'll host Karrot Shire the whole day. I might have to go in the evening, where Falcury will (hopefully) pick up the server and host further. And like I said in my last post, we got two servers when things get crowded, and I'll just let the server stay on if there are too many people on the time I need to go.

Still, though, I'm sure many people (like myself) will want to be present for the opening of Karrot Shire, no doubt an important event for the Jazz 2 community, and the modding community in general.

[Speeza]

Does anyone think it might pic up more people than jazz annerversery?

[Black Ninja]

I'd like to state for anyone who cares (probably no one) that Mac users won't be able to get this to work properly without using Parallels or booting into Windows (via Boot Camp). It will <i>not</i> work under Mac OS X no matter what I do to it.

[Jerrythabest]

I think it will. AB's are not really popular anymore afaict. Have seen many empty servers last AB.

Will there be special Winter, Spring and Autumn styles in the future?
And will ye make a video of the first, say, half an hour of KS?

[WadlCury]

Its funny that you ask that... I'd allready thought about that, I would certainly like to have something seasonal in KS... Like in winter time there would be snow piles everywhere etc... But for some idea's, we need to modify the tileset (again).

Also the video was in my planning. But I really have NO idea how I would make the grande opening a cool thing. Anyone suggestions?
Like something that I create a special building for the opening, around 10 minutes after the opening of the server we'll have a party in there, with "coin-rain" and other small games, and a countdown clock or something (trigger)... Does that sound fun?

Furthermore, Falcury and I are really flattered and thank you all for all those great comments and compliments till now. It certainly makes us feel good =) And it does give me inspiration and energy to try and make everything as close to perfect as possible ;-)

Carrotpie

Question!! Please read this and say what you think about it!

Okay, lets say that there would show up 30 people in the server (filling it completely) and the lag would get SO bad, that the server even crashes before the grande opening! xD (LOL)
How about that we run different servers, allowing up to ... 15-20 people or so... I'm sure the lag would be alot less then, but it COULD make it less fun because : your friends cant join the same server cause its full , its completely deserted in your server, those kind of things...
What do YOU think that is best for Karrot Shire, but most important : what's best for YOU ?

[Speeza]

hmmm. make 2 , as it would be best for the community!.

[Birdie]

hmmm. make 2 , as it would be best for the community!.

The maximum amount of seperate connections is 16, the rest of the players must all be splitscreeners (very unlikely)

[WadlCury]

I think we forgot to mention it, but to play Karrot Shire:

- You need to play with one player (the util can't work with splitscreen).
- You need to play in a window, not fullscreen.

[cooba]

AB's are not really popular anymore afaict. Have seen many empty servers last AB.Well I have been playing JJ2 basically all the time during the last Bash's four days, including most of its <a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/node.php?title=ab9+events">events</a>, so I have no idea what are you talking about.

[Jerrythabest]

@cooba: I'm talking about the bash servers.. just joined them randomly over the day and didn't see many peoples.

@Carrotpie: Considering you can only have 16 connections, I'd suggest you limit the number of players to 16 and start an extra server if the player count reaches it, or looks like it's going to reach it.

[cooba]

I'm talking about the bash servers..So am I, apparently.

[MaSaMuNe LegenD]

This looks like a pretty sweet idea! If you guys need help hosting the server, my computer is free to host it from 12:00 AM - 3:00 PM GMT - 5 (5:00 AM - 8:00 PM GMT + 0 ) I'll definately check this out.

[WadlCury]

Just posted a message in the RabbitJournal (http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/rabbitJournal/index.php). Vote and it'll reach the front page!

[cooba]

Way to vote using a double account, "WadlCury1".

[Speeza]

I voted , everyone vote please. The more people that know about it the better.

[Stijn]

It's been promoted.

Though, as cooba said, do not use a double account again, or measures will have to follow. Double accounts are forbidden by the J2O rules, you know.

[Speeza]

Now don't dissapoint us ;)

[WadlCury]

Now that you bring it up...
Yes I know... =( It was a mistake. Carrotpie an I voted independently of each other. "WadlCury1" was created because we lost access to the old account at some point.

[Stijn]

"WadlCury1" was created because we lost access to the old account at some point.
But you voted for promotion with both "WadlCury" and "WadlCury1". Kind of hard to do without a password I'd say :)

[WadlCury]

Kind of hard to do without a password I'd say :)

I recently regained access, thanks to the fact that the password was still in Firefox' password system. ;) We figured we'd use the old account again.
BTW, now I am having issues with changing the password after resetting it OR logging in after this. After it is changed, not a single password seems to work for me anymore.

And now, to liven things up a little, here's a new tidbit about Karrot Shire.
You may wonder how we cope with only having 16 text strings and 32 triggers. Well, we don't. I'd say we have approximately 100 strings and about 50 triggers in use right now. This is achieved by using a dynamic "district" system for texts and triggers, so when you leave an area (district) in the level and enter another, you get a new set of strings. Memory editing sure is cool :)
(I remember Neobeo's Firetruck doing some similar nifty things as well, but in a different way.)

[Birdie]

This is achieved by using a dynamic "district" system for texts and triggers
It would only be for the texstrings, the triggers it is just the way they are put into the level. :<!---->)

[DoubleGJ]

Most likely I won't be able to be at the grand opening, I have to go home this weekend and there's no JJ2 there ATM. :( How long will the beta test run?

[WadlCury]

I'll be hosting the server untill a time around 10 PM - 11 PM (gmt+1). It mostly depends on how many people are still in the server.

Carrotpie


O my!!

Maybe some of you'd allready noticed, the site is behaving very strange!! People who want to visit Karrot.here.ws can end up on "myspaces" sites etc... Bit strange bug! This is probably a bug at the domain/servers itselves, so we can do nothing about it for now.. Hope it will be fixed soon, we cant have this with Karrot Shire this close!!

[Dermo]

It says please join server right now but i can't find server :(

[FreeFull]

I won't be able to be on the server :/.

[WadlCury]

It says please join server right now but i can't find server :(

That was supposed to be a private test...
Nice to keep these things private :-)

[Birdie]

Anyone who tries to buy room c16 before me dies.

[WadlCury]

Well go ahead and host the level illegally.
It won't work ;\.

[Dermo]

The level works and just reroute the program to my ip and boom we got our own private server.

I won't go that far. Maybe crack the level password and mod it from there for (-)s and giggles but nothing major.

Somebody was illegally hosting it earlier til it got shut down.

[Violet CLM]

Well, I'm out. Can't join a server for more than 30 seconds no matter how many ports I open, firewalls I disable, magic-blur-programs I run, etc. Have a good time, everyone!

[WadlCury]

Report of Karrot Shire, after 142 minutes of playing.

Hey people! Well, it seems that Karrot Shire is running without (alot) problems :)

After I opened the server, allready 15 people showed up in the first minutes.

Alot amazed reactions of the player, some saying that the introduction cutscene was allready great =).

But there where of course some bugs. thanks to the Report system, we allready got alot bug reports. We'll repair them as soon as possible!

Some players where fast enough to finish the available quests in less than one hour. Well, not that hard with just 6 quests... =P

And it seems that someone allready got his/her first house! Gratz with it!


I would like to remind everyone about the fact that there is a guide built in the utility. Click on "Help" and choose "Guide". Same is for bug reports. Please report these things, as it will improve the game (and makes it more fun for you aswell!)

You can also use the report function for game improvements. What would you like to see in Karrot Shire? But don't start talking about level expansion: We allready are over limit of size...

Thanks for all the positive reactions! The server is still online for everyone who still want to see Karrot Shire.

Carrotpie

[Caffne]

The server is pinging.

[FreeFull]

It is not pinging for me. Because the utility doesn't work I can't join, it seems that the utility enhances the memory JJ2 has access to.

[Unhit]

Wow, this is cool, great job :D the first time i joined the server, JJ2 crashed, but now it works and i doubt that was a bug in the level itself. Travelling to the mainland now :)

//E: just noticed on the boat - the carrot shire tool always tell me i had 0 coins while i have 8 or 9, is this intended, or..?

//E2: I just walked to the castle in Torracia and, on arriving there, got the text from the tradesman "there's always soemthing to be shipped...come back later"

//E3: at the bank, the nurse was talking to me.

[Nonomu198]

I joined a few minutes ago, and this thing ROX. But I could'nt get me money in the bank. weird.

Anyway, the server is gone. *sob*.

[Cpp]

I'm just curious... why does this program require fmod.dll again?

[WadlCury]

@Unhit
The utility gives you the amount of coins you have put in the bank, not the amount you're carrying with you. If you had already put coins in the bank, then we have a bug.
And yes, there are still some text bugs to be sorted out...

@IconGuy
You have to put a minimum of 50 coins in the bank, or it won't work.

@Cpp
fmod.dll is for playing music while the utility is running. It can play back songs from your jj2 directory.

There were some crashes while we were hosting (anyone ever heard of "Silent Massacre"?), but it was fun nonetheless. Some hours ago, my server became invisible to most people, due to an unknown reason. Maybe Carrotpie will host some more this evening, I don't know.
Anyway, thanks for all the positive reactions. We're not sitting still and we're fixing bugs, adding quests, adding totally cool new features and making the protections better etc.

[ahat]

Dunno if anyone posted it, but I made a convenient conversion table for JJ2 players to figure out when Karrot Shire starts:

GMT +2 (Israel): 12 AM
GMT +1 (The Netherlands): 11 AM
GMT 0 (England): 10 AM
GMT -4 (Newfoundland): 6 AM
GMT -5 (Eastern Standard Time): 5 AM
GMT -6 (Central Time): 4 AM
GMT -7 (Mountain Time): 3 AM
GMT -8 (Pacific Time): 2 AM

If you live in the US and are planning to join Karrot Shire when it opens, wake up extra early/stay up extra late.

;| Being from Newfoundland, I am completely offended at how you mangled our timezone, Newfoundland Standard Time is GMT -3.5

Shame on you!

[Unhit]

Ah ok. I hadn't put money into the bank. But why can you only buy stuff from your bank-money? Is their no possibility for the tool to log when you pick up a coin? Because that would make everything far more handy imo.
Also, have you read about the obviously wrong text messages i "discovered"?

Apart from that, i'm looking forwards to playing it again :) made me drag jj2 back to my desktop =)

[KRSplat]

Maybe Carrotpie will host some more this evening, I don't know.

do that

[Dermo]

Since the Karrot Shire utility has an auto-updater, you should upload that program, and the karrot shire tileset to j2o since technically they wouldn't be in beta stage if they auto-update to fix themselves.

Also you should allow Karrot Shire Utility to download the level/tileset for you and block downloaders when hosting the server. That way no noobs join who have no idea what they're doing. Only people with the utility can join and chat and stuff.

[WadlCury]

The server is online again, but sometimes it crashes and I am not every minute at the pc. So if it crashes, expect that it will start again in some minutes.
Carrotpie

[CrimiClown]

Fun.

[Dermo]

Which server? I can't see it and I got to go to work here in a few minutes but I would LOVE to check this out!

[Birdie]

It is currently down.

[Dermo]

Can you rehost it in 6 hours please (when I get back)?

[CrimiClown]

Can you rehost it in 6 hours please (when I get back)?

Mind this, you're asking someone to get up out of bed at 3 in the morning to host a server. Good game. ;)

[WadlCury]

No, since we'll be sleeping by then xD.

The betatest was great, many people have shown up (highest population at a time: 17 people in the server!), there allready have been sold more than 5 houses, and most people had finished all the quests which where available =P

When the server will be online, is currently unknown, but I hope to host around christmas (25 / 26 december for people who have lived in a cave) again. It will buy us some time again to respond to the bug reports which have been send, and we'll try to get some more quests in it ;-)
Also I'd like to put the player names at the sold houses, and maybe decorate Karrot Shire special for the christmas season! I'll tell you later I will host.

Carrotpie

[DoubleGJ]

Darn, I missed it by minutes. :|

[CrimiClown]

If you looked at those quests... It's the only thing you DIDN'T steal from RuneScape... they were short, one-line and boring. More of a tutorial than actual quests. I'm still waiting for, as it were, single-player based levels to complete as a quest. Or, even better, team up with someone and do a quest together, like co-op single-player.

I hope you take this advice in mind, because now, Karrot Shire is a hotel with a map function and automatic banking.

Edit to add: Don't think I'm all negative on this Karrot Shire, though. The idea is common, but good, and the way it was put together using the tool is awesome... but yeah, it's actually just a hotel with an extra tool. Work on it a bit more before releasing a full-time server. Or, even better, host a full-time server and add quests on the run. That way, it'll be new every time you log in.

[Vegito]

I personally am not fond of actual RS rip offs too. I mean, the pics and such are like, excactly the same as I heard? o.O
I haven't played myself yet.

[WadlCury]

@CrimiClown
Well, it's not hard to say the quest are not good yet, since there where only 5 quests or so...
And isn't it NORMAL for a storyline that it is one-line?

Short? Check a REAL MMORPG, like World of Warcraft. That game got short quests. And still it can be fun.

Of course I'm thinking of better ways for quests. But I have to think about what Falcury CAN make and what he CAN'T. 2 player quests have allready come into my mind, but if Falcury thinks its a good idea... Well, I really dunno yet.

Note: For the storyline I've allready created another 15 quests.

About releasing additional quests: Exactly my plan. Why should they come out the first day allready? People would get bored after they finished them all, so they could stop playing...

And "Karrot Shire is a hotel with a map function and automatic banking", I feel it as an insult for Karrot Shire. Surely you didn't mean it like that, but Karrot Shire is MUCH more than that.

Carrotpie

[master sven]

Yesterday, the server crashed when Carrotpie was idle. Someone named Carrot **** (s word)joined, left (acces violation) and then rejoined (which some people seem to not have noticed, me and Ana did) then I got acces violation and the server was pinging, following to be offline. (crash?)

[CrimiClown]

And "Karrot Shire is a hotel with a map function and automatic banking", I feel it as an insult for Karrot Shire. Surely you didn't mean it like that, but Karrot Shire is MUCH more than that.

Carrotpie

Well, it may not BE that way, but you also have to consider wether it IS more than a hotel with a map and automatic banking or wether it FEELS more than a hotel with a map and automatic banking. Of course, it's a start, but this should be WAY bigger.

Oh, and if you like, I can do some images for you so you don't have to steal RuneScape images, if you like. Find me on MSN.

[Valco]

Those item images are stolen from RuneScape!

Slakers. Make your own item images.

[Aeris]

Wow guys! Sounds amazing. I'm sad that I missed the test run but I'll (hopefully) be there when it opens... not that I'll have much free time to devote to it though...
I can't even imagine the amount of work that went into making this.

[master sven]

Those item images are stolen from RuneScape!

Slakers. Make your own item images.

We allready knew that and there might be someone to make it's own images...

[Jerrythabest]

Maybe he didn't read page 3 or so...

So, how many quests is KS supposed to have in the end?


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[WadlCury]

my idea was to make up 50 quests. There probz will be a quest or two updated every week, or something like that..

[Nonomu198]

When will you host the server agin?

[Cpp]

No doubt "Silent Massacre" = ASD attack. Did you protect your server from these crashes?

[Jerrythabest]

Can't chat logging and seekhole fix and such things be added to the utility? And whatever program you use to host the server, you could add respawn, chat logging and crash protection to that one.

[WadlCury]

Yes I think we could do that. But for now we should just run the separate programs in the background. I believe Carrotpie had some trouble setting up NeoAC on Vista, so the server would have been unprotected at the time of that crash. Still, listserver crashes are no match for NeoAC...
We have ideas for an awful lot of quests to come. Some things have already been made but it wouldn't be right to release them now.
We will probably be hosting today and/or tomorrow. No new quests as of now but a couple of bug fixes and some new stuff that people asked for, like being able to follow another player on the map and being able to buy items in shops with cash money (instead of coins from the bank).

[Jerrythabest]

Great. The bank should be there only so you can save money when you need to go.

[Birdie]

Why don't you just use carrotade for anticrash? :P

[R3ptile]

You really need to hire someone to make you better banners, by the way..

[Jerrythabest]

Why don't you just use carrotade for anticrash? :P

As Carrotade doesn't even recognize a completely normal 1.23 Jazz2 <!-- it's true! it's true!! lol worst bug I ever found in a program --> I doubt it would be a good idea to use it to secure a thing like this.

[Birdie]

As Carrotade doesn't even recognize a completely normal 1.23 Jazz2 I doubt it would be a good idea to use it to secure a thing like this.

What you said makes no sense at all. (Explain better or lose all credibility I hold you with.)

[Grytolle]

I have that problem with carrotade too, at times. I just have to try opening jj2 and carrotade some 20 times, then it works! ++stuff

[madbunnydoc]

Will the server be running today?

Anxious to try/test it out if possible :)
But a bit more detail om a possible time would be nice if possible.
(or am I already to late? I have been checking a few times yesterday, but may have missed it even so)
EDIT: nevermind ths message, I have played it :)
Nice concept indeed.

[NovaStar]

It might be a good idea to allow more than one account for an email adress, as I've lost the activation email twice on both of my accounts, and I can't log in (obviously) because of that.

[Jerrythabest]

'Resend activation mail' would be a better option then.

[WadlCury]

It might be a good idea to allow more than one account for an email adress, as I've lost the activation email twice on both of my accounts, and I can't log in (obviously) because of that.

I thought I made it so you don't have to activate... but if you can't login I must have put a check for it somewhere, apparently. Where exactly can't you login? The utility or the website?

[NovaStar]

Both.

[Jerrythabest]

Maybe ye just forgot yer password?

[NovaStar]

It isn't like there's a "forgot password" option either, which was my second option, until I also retried making the account on another email address of mine and then tried to log in, still didn't work. Probably the activation email.

[WadlCury]

As for half of the world the (happy) new year allready has begun, it still has to arrive here in the Netherlands.

But since I need to prepare other things so we can celebrate the new year here IRL, I'll post this now (just 1 hour and 30 minutes away of 2008!).

On behalf of the Karrot Shire team, we'd like to wish you a happy, 10-fingered, healthy 2008 and a lot Karrot Shire fun!

Falcury
Carrotpie

[Nonomu198]

But the servre is never up
How can I enjoy it?

[Grytolle]

why do you need the source code for a bot?

[Jerrythabest]

who said that?

[NovaStar]

And what about a forgot password/resend activation mail function?

[Odin]

And what about a forgot password/resend activation mail function?

You should probably either use your real email address, use a password you won't forget, or a combination of the two.

[-mo93-]

I didnt read the thread, but i looked the trailer and joined, some days before. and now 2 questions:
1: will i be able to play with 1.24
2: why is the server never online?:(

[KRSplat]

10-fingered

Excuse me, but I have paws.

[NovaStar]

You should probably either use your real email address, use a password you won't forget, or a combination of the two.

Did both...

[WadlCury]

O well... If everyone misses Karrot Shire THAT much, i'll just host it for you for a while.

The server will be turned ON around 6:15 PM (18:15) GMT+1 (Dutch Time). I'll try to have it turned on as long as possible.

On this host you can try many new things!! There have been added 2 quests (one storyline and one normal quest) and 2 skills. Furthermore have all the bought houses been updated and are provided with a name of its owner.


Cleaning The Chimney

With the last updates, Karrot Shire became even cooler and more fun than it allready was!

As example, there are added 2 new skills!!!
What you need to do to unlock these skills? Oh, not very much... Nope, not very much. You only have to...
Clean the Chimney!

After you have done this quest, be ready to play around with the freshly added "Engineering skill" and the "Smithing skill". You also will be able to get your hands on the "Factory Mini-Game!!!

The "Cleaning the Chimney" Quest can be started at Mr. Smokey, the boss of the factories in Carvan City.

[Dermo]

Uh ok but it hasn't been up at all when i've been on and there hasn't been any new talk on this thread in a while.

Have people simply forgotten about KS already?

[Ragnarok!]

I tried it out very recently and I loved it almost instantly. ;[ Host it more pls.

[Jimbob]

Too bad we can't host our own KS servers :(

[Nonomu198]

I tried it out very recently and I loved it almost instantly. ;[ Host it more pls.

You mean HOST it. I only was in the first time, and I think there were only like 3 times the server was up ]:

[the WINNER]

A month and a half has passed and this has been hosted three times? I'm actually afraid of getting hooked into it, if you're hosting it so rarely.

You need multiple hosters if you aren't bothering to do it all by yourself (which really can be a pain...)

[KRSplat]

I suppose it's because they're still in beta stages.(?)

[the WINNER]

Really sad, it looks like another good idea has been destroyed because the owner doesn't feel like working on it.

[WadlCury]

Don't worry!! As we once said "You may have not heard of us for a while, and thats because we where working on a super secret project [..]", and we still are working on it!

As KRSplat guessed, we are still in a beta stage with KS.. We still try to improve things, add more quests and skills, remove bugs, add more and remove more.. We want to have it -almost- perfect.

And these things cost time. But dont think that we've stopped, that would be the last thing we would do with KS.

Currently we are trying to set up a 24/7 KS server, which probably might even be running within a month.

So hold on everyone! You can play Karrot Shire soon enough again. Don't worry.

[Nonomu198]

As KRSplat guessed, we are still in a beta stage with KS.. We still try to improve things, add more quests and skills, remove bugs, add more and remove more.. We want to have it -almost- perfect.

Currently we are trying to set up a 24/7 KS server, which probably might even be running within a month.

Shouldn't you aim for perfect? Also, a 24/7 sounds cool, but how about hosting it once in awhile til then? :(


edit:

Another thing, I checked the site and I can't look at other profiles (I searched and when I tried to enter there was an error)

[Falcury]

The server is online!

And will stay online for as long as possible. We will therefore not be present in the server at all times.

The current version has some new features and quests, and of course we will be adding more stuff as we go along. The last quest we have right now is actually hard, by the way.

[Birdie]

Hopefully it will be on for another eight hours, as I won't be able to make it until then due to my timezone.

[Nonomu198]

Ah... utility tells me to join the online server, but... it's pinging! :(

*extreme sadness*

[-mo93-]

Ah... utility tells me to join the online server, but... it's pinging! :(

*extreme sadness*

same

edit:This is maybe not your problem, but maybe, there is something on your server, wich doesnt agree with my settings^^

[WadlCury]

I have once again restarted the server.

Too bad NeoAC doesn't block all crashes...

[Birdie]

Carrotade.

[Birdie]

When I played the activity was enormous;


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[[Thursday, February 21, 2008 at 18:25:44]]
**Current level: "Karrot Shire" - KarrotShire.j2l
**Game Mode: Battle
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[DoubleGJ]

4AM here, just finished playing. I need to control myself better... And even if I got sucked in, I felt lonely most of the time. Without other players the whole land seems lifeless despite all the NPCs... Maybe you could at least put some butterflies in wildlife areas... Also I wish enemies could somehow work in this. Are you going to try implement some baddie-frying quests? That would be more interesting, I think. Or maybe just make it possible to fight some for money (and maybe experience if you're thinking of adding it among dignity) instead of making it just float around in places? If you're opting for an MMORPG style, this would definately make it more noticeable.

[WadlCury]

4AM here, just finished playing. I need to control myself better... And even if I got sucked in, I felt lonely most of the time. Without other players the whole land seems lifeless despite all the NPCs... Maybe you could at least put some butterflies in wildlife areas... Also I wish enemies could somehow work in this. Are you going to try implement some baddie-frying quests? That would be more interesting, I think. Or maybe just make it possible to fight some for money (and maybe experience if you're thinking of adding it among dignity) instead of making it just float around in places? If you're opting for an MMORPG style, this would definately make it more noticeable.

Good points. I think I will try to make a fightable bot next, to make things more interesting on that front. I agree that the inactivity is sad - the best alternative would, I think, us being online all the time so people always have someone to fight or to chat to. The downside, of course, is that Carrotpie and I do have lives, so we simply can't be in the server at all times.
24/7 hosting, or (hopefully a bit more) regular hosting?

[Nonomu198]

Ah, Brd is lying. Me and that other guy were in the server too, for 2 hours (dunno I left after 2 hours or something).

Anyway, I agree with DoubleGJ, and I also think that the eyecandy in most of the world should be improved. I mean, when you are in civilization (aka cities) there are some nice eyecandy, but on the road there is nothing.... gives me a sad feeling. Realy, add some animations out there.
The downside, of course, is that Carrotpie and I do have lives.

YAH HAVING LIVES IS SILLY


edit:
There is some guy in the server called rf. He is killing everyonw and stuff :(


edit:
Stuff are ok, except I gut stuck in a bank and there is this pplace where you get iced and go up, I get stuck in the wind.

Add some stuff like trade, house selling, more quests (!!!), NICER quests, more eyecandy, enemies (go bots go) and more unique ways to go around will rock.

I GUT A HOUSE YAYYAYYAY (I singed as Nonomu198 if you wonder).

[Ragnarok!]

The quests owned. Another island would own (haha im mad). I know I might be sounding annoying, the quests were awesome, but I think you should add more, I'm sure you're up to something... Maybe you can also make monsters and parties and rare items. Still owns anyway. :)

[DoubleGJ]

So I just noticed you can trade and sell items when the server is offline.

I've put up my fast-fires for 75 coins, also does anyone want to sell any magic logs or a Toaster PU? I'm trying so hard to get it and still no luck. :(

[Nonomu198]

Realy, how can you get a toaster PU?

[Ragnarok!]

You needa get magic logs D:

[Birdie]

I have magic log(s)

[WadlCury]

Just so you know, we're working on a major update again. If we can get everything done today, you can expect the server to be up again tomorrow with a bunch of new quests and features.

[master sven]

Still no 24/7 server...:(
Karrot Shire OWNS!!

[Slaz]

lol that almost makes me rely on Battle Server as the new 24/7 server...

[Bboy Type7]

Pretty nice game concept. It looks nice. To me, I don't think Jazz should be built for mmorpg or online. It's very corny and childish when you play bunnies instead of humans running around in a virtual world. Not a bad idea, go for it.

[DoubleGJ]

It's very corny and childish when you play bunnies instead of humans running around in a virtual world. Not a bad idea, go for it.
what about orks and elves

or superheroes

or cute little girls with animal hats

[master sven]

Just so you know, we're working on a major update again. If we can get everything done today, you can expect the server to be up again tomorrow with a bunch of new quests and features.

It is tomorrow now....

[WadlCury]

Yeah, I confess we don't have an update ready yet... We have some trouble with the furniture in the database at the moment, causing a slight delay, but then again the next update will be the biggest update we've done so far I think.

[Ragnarok!]

-cry-

[Jimbob]

:'( :'( <b><i><u>:'(</b></i></u>

[Ðx]

I still wanna play it, but it got that 30 CTO.. Well just buzzer me on MSN when it's up =)

[master sven]

Blurs Prog, Opening ports?

[WadlCury]

It's on.

[SquirreL]

It's pinging

[Ragnarok!]

Idd. -cuts sq-

[WadlCury]

Even with Carrotade on it is crashed all the time. Which is truly terrible.

[Frozenball]

Pretty cool, biut there's some things I would like to point out:
* Camera hanging! I want to play, not watch camera moving and warping back all over again
* Server is often offline or pinging

[Birdie]

Good fun today, didn't crash as often as last time.

[Valco]

Hey Wadlecury, is there any chance I could have the tileset used for KarrotShire? It looks very flexible, and I might have use for it.

[Birdie]

Hey Wadlecury, is there any chance I could have the tileset used for KarrotShire? It looks very flexible, and I might have use for it.

http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=1428
learn to be an encyclopedic database of tilesets. >.>

[master sven]

I think he means the edited version of that titleset.

[WadlCury]

I (Falcury) am OK with that; I don't know about Carrotpie but I expect he will be too. Just be aware that we still update the tileset every once in a while, when we feel we need new tiles =)

EDIT: Carrotpie is NOT ok with other people using the tileset. Sorry, the answer will therefore be "no".

[Superjazz]

Does the amount of tries used for completing quests affect the amount of received dignity or something? If not, then I'm totally confused why do players that have got the same progress have different dignity-rates.

[Nonomu198]

Any new quests or cool stuff yet? After finishing all quests things get boring too fast.

[WadlCury]

Does the amount of tries used for completing quests affect the amount of received dignity or something? If not, then I'm totally confused why do players that have got the same progress have different dignity-rates.
There was a bug that caused some players to get more dignity than others. It has been fixed now.
Any new quests or cool stuff yet? After finishing all quests things get boring too fast.
We're working on stuff of course, but hey, we're not God (yet =p).

[Valco]

Does Carrotpie have a reason to keep the tileset to themself? I know he has the right to keep the tileset, but with his descision the community could lose a lot of nice hotel levels. It's not like we'll 'dethrone' KarrotShire, anyways.

[Stijn]

Doesn't the tileset end up in your Cache folder when you play the level?

[Birdie]

There was a bug that caused some players to get more dignity than others. It has been fixed now.

So would everyone who's completed every quest now have equal dignity?

community could lose a lot of nice hotel levels.
not only is it an oxymoron, but it's false. :l

[Valco]

Doesn't the tileset end up in your Cache folder when you play the level?

Not to my knowledge.

[Jimbob]

It does, and so do all of the levels you download off of servers. I mean, you can't play levels that use tilesets you don't have, can you?

[Valco]

Right... Guess I lost my logic train for a minute there. I'm going to check my cache now.

[Birdie]

Right... Guess I lost my logic train for a minute there. I'm going to check my cache now.

Carrotpie still doesn't want you using it though. :l

EDIT: I don't want to continually post, causing another flamewar like in the community episode, so I'd rather just edit this.
In response to valcos post below: You have rights, but obviously not respect for the tileset creator's wishes. <!--Dont you even try to say that he shouldnt have been allowed to make it in the first place, as it's an edit.-->

[Valco]

Bah! I have rights and I intend to use them!
Besides, all I'm going to do is a little hotel level. I can't program (-).

[cooba]

Carrotpie is not okay with people using an edited and questionably legal version of <em>Disguise's and Mirrow's</em> tileset?

[Vegito]

Might I suggest something like a userlist/highscore?
Easier to look up players then :)

I'll play for a bit the next time the server is up.
Feel like trying now the game is more stable

[Unhit]

Might I suggest something like a userlist/highscore?
Easier to look up players then :)

Great idea! It also makes it more fun for people to play by adding a competitive element imo.

[Ragnarok!]

When will market place be open? :o

[WadlCury]

Should we keep some sort of dev diary? Because it sometimes takes a while between updates.

[Valco]

Yes, give us a development diary/progress report (I like second one's name better) on the updates for the game. We're all dangerously curious about what's going on.

[master sven]

Couldn't you guys host an older version when you are still busy with an update?

[Valco]

Since they're actually two people, that should be possible.

[WadlCury]

Progress report added to website (go to News and click on the link in the most recent post)

[Valco]

Yay

[Ragnarok!]

According to the website, I've lost all my magic logs. :(

[Birdie]

I've lost mine too. D:

[Nonomu198]

Glad I never had any magic log =D

[WadlCury]

You really expected me to turn a blind eye when you dupe for 30 magic logs? ;) You haven't lost all btw, you still got 5.

Special easter themed server is UP now!

Not pinging hopefully?!?!

[DoubleGJ]

and I could never buy Birdie's in the first place =(

[Ragnarok!]

dupe? What's dupe? :l. How do you dupe? Is it a new feature or something? ;o

I spent ages on getting them D<

[Birdie]

we spend ages getting those logs, and what is dupe? :l

[Birdie]

And, the server doesn't exist. :l

[cooba]

Karrot Shire is a dupe hotel :(

[Nonomu198]

He means you cheated

[Ragnarok!]

So duping is cheating? I'm still confused as to how I "duped" or what exactly I did that defines "duping". =l Well, I guess I can just do the same thing again. That took me forever though D<

[Nonomu198]

=l Well, I guess I can just do the same thing again. That took me forever though D<

You know he will just delete them (evily) agin, right?

You really need to get a life

[Ragnarok!]

No comment.

[Birdie]

If you guys have serverlogs of somesort you'd know we didn't cheat for our logs, and... the server still doesn't exist.

[SPAZ18]

The server was up yesterday and was shut down at about 9:30PM GMT I think.
Found quite a lot of secrets, 22! :D

[master sven]

Spaz18! please watch out website more often, we had a training yesterday, and having one every tuesday now at 15.00PM GMT. Btw, Wadlecury, I know Rag and I can't believe that he would be cheating.

[Nonomu198]

Is this... DEAD? It can't be D:

[SPAZ18]

I don't think so. Probably a MAJOR update in progress or something.

Since JJ2+ is now out, I've been wondering if that is gonna be used with KS.
Will we have to use normal JJ2 to join KS servers?

[Jerrythabest]

I think they'll make it compatible. Wouldn't make sense to make an addon for an outdated version of JJ2.

[Nonomu198]

It would if it's DEAAAAAAAAD D: D:

[Falcury]

[reassuring voice]

Of course it's not dead. It's just that there are a couple of things going on at the moment:
- Exam time!! omg, there goes my valuable time...
- We are looking at the possibility to make KS so that it would be single player with the option of multiplayer. i.e. you can host it yourself if you wish.
- We want to FINISH the storyline. We have some great new quest outlines, only we have to make them, which takes time. You know it would be disappointing if we took the time to host KS and there would be few new quests/features - we want it to be good. In other words, "it will be done when it's done".

Sorry to those hoping to see it back online in the short term. But I will only probably have the time to do some serious work on it in June (and seeing as I am the one who does all the programming, the project will probably not progress much until that time. Hopefully I will be able to persuade Carrotpie to work on the level some more).

So hang in there.

And of course, I will do my best to make the Util JJ2+ compatible. Though I can't see how it would not work anymore in relation to the old version. Oh well, I'd have to test that.

Any input is welcome, of course.

[/reassuring voice]

[Birdie]

I see no reason that the utility should not work with jj2+.

[Falcury]

JJ2+ apparently can display text on the jj2 screen.
If it could draw other stuff as well, I might consider building the entire utility on top of JJ2+. Much better integration & fullscreen!
No. Way too ambitious...
Still, I'd love to take a look at the jj2+ source to see how the text drawing is done.

[Birdie]

I do belive jj2+ draws it's text by calling jj2's own text drawing function. And you can draw any other stuff if you really want.

[master sven]

Will you guys revive Karrot Shire....?

[Falcury]

Yes, we will.

[Bboy Type7]

The project's getting better. I like it. Keep up the great work on this multiplayer online game. I can't wait to see this! :)

[Slaz]

Well, if it will be hosted just a little more often, we should be able to test the stuff that's ready. ;)

[KRSplat]

Yes, we will.

When?

[Falcury]

Well, the good news is that I've picked up work on it again. Let me unveil a bit for you. Mind you, it's still going to take a long time until we hit version 1.0.

Ingame CTF is about half finished, ingame duels are up next. In these competitive modes, you will be able to win money from your opponents.
When that is done, a high score system is up next (also a competitive element).
More secrets will be added. Finding secrets will give you hints for other secrets.
After that, some 10-20 more quests will be made at least.

And about hosting more often... We find that we do not have the energy to pull it off regularly (typical...). We want to have new stuff every time we host it, and we need to everything up to date! We think our newer model will work better (but we need to work it out first, obviously).

[master sven]

Wake up all you happy people!

[ĴèƒŘŷ[ŗĈžƏ]]

i think game will die before karrot shrine is redy.

[Ragnarok!]

;o. Poor Wadlcury, I'm sure they're working on it when they have time. )=.

Plus, they said they'll take a while. D; Give them that while.

[master sven]

Allmost a month later: What a while...

[Ragnarok!]

=P I'm sure the wait is worth it D:

[Falcury]

I sure hope and believe it will be.

Work progresses slowly, you know how it goes... But you know, we want to hit that 1.0.... Meanwhile, have a look round the website. I'm trying to make a post there every other week or so and there is also a minor new feature in the Userpanel.

[Nonomu198]

Is this still alive? I hope so. It was nice while it lasted.

[Jerrythabest]

Integration into Jazz2+ will definitely keep it active.

[wadledee]

Even while we haven't posted much info lately, I can ensure you, we're working hard on it to get you something nice to play in december. I hope we can host a greatly improved Karrot Shire in the Christmas holidays, with again, tons of new things to do.

~~~

In the meantime, I've been rounding up the level design with some new area's, houses refurbished and secret places added.
Falcury has been pushing on the utility, implementing more quests, an ingame CTF room and even more!

~~~

Yes, it takes a while, but hey. I'm telling you: it's worth waiting for ;-)

[Nonomu198]

Great to know.

[master sven]

You guys still've got the second half of the holidays!....

[Falcury]

Hey, thanks for reminding us! :P

Yes, I am coding at the moment, though I think Carrotpie is overestimating my work a little. There's a very nasty CTF bug I can't seem to work out (namely, switching in-game to ctf mode causes that none of the players will detect that you possess the flag, except yourself).

The december deadline is a little optimistic as well, because KS is unplayable at the moment. This is because I have been getting a little ambitious, wanting to throw out the whole online account mess. Therefore I am stuck in conversion stuff etc. I am pleased to say, however, that the game is still coming along very nicely. It is starting to look more like a Jazz2 RPG engine than a hard-coded game now. Maybe it'll be just that in the end, who knows.

Some news on the "New Features" front. No Internet connection required anymore (offline save game based). Numerous UI fixes. New Ranking system that will hopefully be very rewarding. Trophies/Achievements. Beside all the other stuff in version 1.0.

I could try to push out a "beta" version for people to play with, when I can manage it. Go easy on us though. I have a medicine study to worry about ;)