2on2IT Results/comments

[Quickz]

A new thread for the results, since the tournament started today. Don't post stuff about the levels, the brackets etc, you can do that in the other thread.

(Thanks Stijn for changing the title ;D )

[R3ptile]

uhhh no matches were played yet?

[Unhit]

lol, seems not :P FS and i did some warmup games yesterday though, so we might do the first "serious" games soon :P

[Nonomu198]

Maybe there should be official warm up fights (you know like a round in wich you must train and play aginst teams and stuff and not get kicked you of the tournery for losing ect.)? I guess it will make traning much easier, at least for me.

[Grytolle]

No. So many games to play anyway

[Unhit]

yeah indeed, i don't see a reason in a warmup round. you can just play warmup games like that, it's no problem

[R3ptile]

it's no problem
http://i29.tinypic.com/2uhuzk2.jpg


ok that was lame

[Vegito]

<33 Vs. [Ni]

Round 1:
Level: Superconductor (Ni's choice)
5-2 to <33

Round 2:
Level: Elmhsemi (<33's choice)
5-1 to <33

[Superjazz]

It seems like everyone's having their opening match today.

[R3ptile]

hah.. so (-)ing exciting

also visit #jazzjackrabbit for live results like always!

[Chiyu]

CFC vs. Sdgs
10-5

Round 1:
Level: Diamondus Warzone (CFC's choice)
5-0 to CFC

Round 2:
Level: Jungle's Edge (Sdgs' choice)
5-0 to Sdgs

Round 3 (tiebreaker):
Level: Happy Semiconductor (Sdgs' choice, but we agreed)
5-0 to CFC

[Raven aka StL]

Hah, rustyness.
Coolnage though.

[Quickz]

Wow, I'm so happy with the fact that two matches have been finished this fast *edits his signature* .. Anyway, it would be great if you can mention the host in future posts as well, thanks.

I will add some pages for results and standings later on the site. Home again sunday, so maybe then.

[Vegito]

Chiyu hosted both of our matches.

I hosted round 1 from Sgds Vs. CFC. Hitch the last 2 rounds.

[shaney]

the CFC pwns (-)(-)(-) , was a great day for 2 v 2 s we are hot and pumping congratz to the honeymoon team <33 for there win

[Quickz]

CFC vs. Sdgs
10-5

Round 1:
Level: Diamondus Warzone (CFC's choice)
5-0 to CFC

Round 2:
Level: Jungle's Edge (Sdgs' choice)
5-0 to Sdgs

Round 3 (tiebreaker):
Level: Happy Semiconductor (Sdgs' choice, but we agreed)
5-0 to CFC

Okay, there were three rounds played here. Unfortunately, only 2 should have been played. That means we'll forget Round 3 and the final score will be 5-5.

So, to be clear, Scores will be combined, which will lead to a final result: a win, a loss or a draw.

[R3ptile]

Where teams are writting their results?
Here.

[snzspeed]

We finished the match vs Sdgs

[Superjazz]

Sdgs vs WCB

Round 1

Sdgs [1:5] WCB (Jungle's Edge of Sdgs)

Round 2

Sdgs [5:4] WCB (BloodBunny's Lair of WCB)

Overall

Sdgs [6:9] WCB

Round 1 was played on Monday 28th January. It was hosted by DS. The game was annoyingly lagged, but we still won with clear result.

Round 2 was just finished, and it was hosted by Lejdi. Hoping that Lejdi somehow wouldn't lag as much as DS at least, and that the map was picked by us, I expected a good result from this game. However, Lejdi lagged way more horribly than DS, making it almost unplayable. While we kept dying nearly always with 3 health, I often didn't even see my death. Meaning I could have as well abused the lag, and recapture immediately if I happened to die with the flag(j/k.)

A good, classic game(not counting lags.) Awaiting verifications.

[snzspeed]

Sdgs vs WCB

Round 1

Sdgs [1:5] WCB (Jungle's Edge of Sdgs)

Round 2

Sdgs [5:4] WCB (BloodBunny's Lair of WCB)

Overall

Sdgs [6:9] WCB

Round 1 was played on Monday 28th January. It was hosted by DS. The game was annoyingly lagged, but we still won with clear result.

Round 2 was just finished, and it was hosted by Lejdi. Hoping that Lejdi somehow wouldn't lag as much as DS at least, and that the map was picked by us, I expected a good result from this game. However, Lejdi lagged way more horribly than DS, making it almost unplayable. While we kept dying nearly always with 3 health, I often didn't even see my death. Meaning I could have as well abused the lag, and recapture immediately if I happened to die with the flag(j/k.)

A good, classic game(not counting lags.) Awaiting verifications.

verified ;P and yea the last round was kinda laggy for us all. ;X

[Sasik]

Imo, it would be much better to count the final result of match by rounds, not by scores. However, that's just my feeling.

Anyway, Quickz, you could make more clearly rules how teams qualify to the next stage, because as we see, there might be many draws. ;P

Hmm... Maybe I should post this in the other thread. eh.

[Quickz]

Edit:

Bah, taking things in consideration..

[Vegito]

4 teams in 1 poule, and only the first continues.
I seriously don't see why you just can't do 1 round with the first 2 qualifying of each poule. ;[
I don't see the use of 2 entire different rounds.

[Raven aka StL]

As there are 5 groups of teams, the thought about only one team advancing from each gives me the chills. That'd (imo, of course) make hardly any sense at all.

[Unhit]

I'd suggest that the first two of each bracket proceed. Those ten teams form 2 new brackets (randomly selected) with 5 teams each. Out of these brackets, the first 2 will make it to the semi-finals. Those ranked third play for rank 5 etc. That way it might take quite some longer time to finish, but maybe thus we can bridge the time until the next JDC season ;)

[Raven aka StL]

I'd suggest that the first two of each bracket proceed. Those ten players form 2 new brackets (randomly selected) with 5 players each. Out of these brackets, the first 2 will make it to the semi-finals. Those ranked third play for rank 5 etc. That way it might take quite some longer time to finish, but maybe thus we can bridge the time until the next JDC season ;)

That'd change the tournament's general idea entirely and is thus rendered inadvisable.

[Unhit]

Why?

[R3ptile]

I'd suggest that the first two of each bracket proceed. Those ten players form 2 new brackets (randomly selected) with 5 players each. Out of these brackets, the first 2 will make it to the semi-finals. Those ranked third play for rank 5 etc. That way it might take quite some longer time to finish, but maybe thus we can bridge the time until the next JDC season ;)
agreed

[Raven aka StL]

That'd mean that if you prosper as a team, you'll be competing as individuals later on in the tournament. That'd be harsh crap.

[Grytolle]

I don't think counting rounds is a better idea, especially since we only play two rounds per game :P

[Vegito]

That would give loads of matches a 1-1 round, probably because most teams have 1 great level and are able to beat anyone there ;-;

[Unhit]

That'd mean that if you prosper as a team, you'll be competing as individuals later on in the tournament. That'd be harsh crap.


with 5 players i meant 5 teams of course, sorry.

[Raven aka StL]

So you're saying that you can sensibly divide 5 teams into 2 brackets?

Or are you saying that there should be another league stage afterwards, or something? Because that sounds complicated and quite unnecessary.

I'll just go ahead and say that QZ is doing a fine job, although I support round based scoring with 3 rounds.

[Unhit]

If you read "players" as "teams" in my original post, it should be rather obvious what i meant.

[Vegito]

It is rather obvious. ;p

[Robee]

iR-T [10-2] TR

iR-T's level: Happy Semiconductor CTF
Result:5-0 to iR-T
Comment:
Fast and easy game.

TR's level: Diamondus Warzone
Result:5-2 to iR-T
Comment:
Aw, I saw lots of lagclones, so it was hard to kill enemy. And we very badly started. But GG

Thanks for Veg for hosting both rounds.

[Vegito]

Yes confirmed.

[Raven aka StL]

If you read "players" as "teams" in my original post, it should be rather obvious what i meant.

Ah yeah, misread because of the typo...

[Unhit]

fixed now 8D

[Hitch]

Haha Qz, I knew you wanted us to face you before anyone else, if we could ;P

[Quickz]

Haha Qz, I knew you wanted us to face you before anyone else, if we could ;P

Wow, you're sooo smart. Or maybe it's just because I asked you today, lol.

[Vegito]

Yes lets all hurry.

Unfortunately I wont be able to play till next friday : - ]
And Sperry will be on holidays from next Saturday till the week after.
I guess we'll be able to play a lot though when I'm there. We'd have to play splitscreen however =\ so I'd prefer not to play though.

[Hitch]

Wow, you're sooo smart. Or maybe it's just because I asked you today, lol.

Heh. But yeah, the schedule idea is great, you don't necessarily have to play that team that week. It's just so the tournament progresses further and won't take as long. If your 'scheduled' to play some team that can't play that week, you can always play someone else, because it's just like 'guild lines' that can be followed throughout the tourny. GG Qz.

[Quickz]

Red Bracket: <33 vs. OEDOTWHAB
(DS hosted both rounds)

Round 1: Jungle's Edge
5-0 <33

Well, this was a fast game. Sperry and Veg scored the 1st point fast and rapidly scored points till 4-0. The 5th point took quite a while though. Anyway, it lagged a lot for Hitch, he saw lagclones etc.

Round 2: Whantil (OEDOTWHAB's choise)
5-2 <33

This round was closer, you could even say almost even. The points were long, both teams had opportunities. <33 took a 2-0 lead, but OEDOTWHAB came back strongly to 2-2. Then the points became really close. Flagcarriers were killed a lot and teammates were ready to capture. There were lots of fake carrots - but both teams fortunately didn't score at 3hk's. The last 3 points were for <33 but they didn't had an easy time getting them, especially the last one.

Final score:
10-2 <33

[Hitch]

Confirmed...But I do have a story...

Alright, so Ds hosted, and I usually don't have any problems with him, but for some crappy reason, I could only see Veg's lag clone, as goes for sperry, and when I did get a chance to kill, I didn't even know about it. I mean, I've never had this many problems with DS hosting but seriously, comon', this was BAD. Anyway, I'd call the game a "Close your eyes and hope to kill game." <33 did a good job with what they had, and I'm sure I wasn't a challenge at all, with the way I performed today. I wish WE could of split the hosting, with Veg hosting once and me, it could of been more fair, but you know, it sucks. As far as the scores, I don't believe them...blah blah blah, Hitch likes to complain ;D

[Quickz]

<33 vs. olol: 10-4

Round 1: BBlair (DS hosted, their choise)
5-0 <33

Bah, we were soo unlucky every single time. This game was really fast, we died at the same moments constantly.

Round 2: Atom Heart 243.5 (Veg hosted, our choise)
5-4 <33

We were actually leading 4-0 here, but.. we still lost though. Again some unlucky timing, especially at the end. We were 2 cm from a 5-0 win and a draw, but well, 'it wasn't meant to be' :P ..

[Quickz]

About scoring etc: each overall win is worth one point. Every round win is worth another point.

So, for example:

Team A vs. Team B: 5-0 5-2 ---> Team A: 3 points, Team B: 0 points
Team A vs. Team B: 5-0 4-5 ---> Team A: 2 points, Team B: 1 point
Team A vs. Team B: 5-2 2-5 ---> Team A: 1 point, Team B: 1 point

[Vegito]

Took us a while to figure out how to play AH together. I could easily DD most of the time and such, but scoring was like impossible as Sperry hated the level soo much and she lagged a lot :|.

Anyways, at 3-0 she told me to give her the flag mostly, so I can kill and be R when its needed. That went better. They scored 4-0 still. Then Sperry recaptured, I killed DS and Quickz immediately, then weird enough Sperry missed the scoring opportunity! >: [ I got mad then. :|. Anyways, thats when we started playing better and better. I could actually kill the flagcarrier usually and she could score. When the first point was scored the next 2followed soon.

Then at 4-3 they wanted to win the match still or something and it got even again. We however scored still though. I kinda liked how I at times died without DS and Quickz knowing I had low health, just to give Sperry the flag. G_G

[Quickz]

JT vs. RHSP

Round 1 (Robee) KMC:
5-1 Dragon/Wielki

Round 2 (Ragnarok) semi:
5-0 Yax/SQ

Overall: 6-5 RHSP

(2 points RHSP, 1 point JT)

Both rounds lagged a lot for both teams, unfortunately..

[Superjazz]

At least the scoring-system is perfect now. Gg.

[Quickz]

[olol] vs [GP]

Round 1: Atom Heart (Sweet hosted, [olol]'s pick) 5-1 [olol]

Round 2: Quasar Quandary (DS hosted, [GP]'s pick) 5-0 [olol]

Overall: [olol] (3 points) def. [GP] (no points) 10-1.

Anyway, I'll get the bracket results and standings online today, probably.

[Quickz]

Oh, annoucement:

Whantil is out, Ice Cream Island (http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=4530) will replace it.. Well, Hitch and Birdie were probably the only team who'd choose Whantil and now are the only team to choose ICI, so that makes it fair ;P gg. The mappool for the K.O.-stage will be different, so don't worry.

Why is Whantil out? It lags terribly, several people complained about it etc. and I played it myself now, we had endless discussions in-game etc.

About the game:
Sasik hosted both rounds, we were short on time, so - because Carrotade crashed all the time - we played the first round without Carrotade, but with Forest. We picked Atom Heart 243.5 and won that round 5-1.

Well, round 2 was, yes idd, in Whantil. It lagged terribly for all of us, but they played well at the beginning and scored the first two points. Then the troubles started with 3hk's, lagclones, weird arrows, airs etc. Birdie scored while Hitch was brb, but fortunately Sasik was so kind to set their score back to two. Then there were some 3hk's and we were able to score our first point. 3hk's just kept coming randomly and at a certain point we all didn't know the score. They claimed the win, we claimed -3 for 3hk's etc. and it wasn't really nice, so we decided to stop. After having a look at the logs (Sasik as host, Hitch for blue and Quickz for red), we decided it actually was a 5-2 win (instead of 4-1) for [OEDOTWHAB], so gg guys.

So now both teams get one point for winning a round and [olol] gets the extra point for the overall win.

[Hitch]

Ok, now my side of the story.

In Round 1, Sasik hosted, as he was the only host on msn at the time. Unfortunately, the carrotade he used would crash, so he used Forest. We started the game out stupid, with me and Birdie losing badly, but we didn't give up. There where some close calls, where me or Birdie would be at the flag, but Ds or Qz would score for some strange reson. --Forest. Anyway, at that point, it was 0-4 for Blue. Then we got better, and better, and finally scored to make it 1-4. At that point, we seemed to outrunning Ds and Qz in the game, but Ds camped the crap out of the Carrots, so it was a hard time getting health if we did have 1 or 2, which is the same in this level. At that point, Birdie died 2 seconds after saying "1" and I had 1 myself, and unfortuneatly, Qz scored before I got to the flag, Bg.

In round 2, our choice, Whantil, yes the level that got picked out, but hey, we pwn just as good in ICI. So, in the beginning, we got off to a smooth start, and me and Birdie managed to kill Qz and Ds at the same time, luckily. After about 2-0, sucedded to get DOMINATE, since Sasik got carrotade finally turned on. As well as Birdie, who had several killing spree's. After I got back from my "brb" break, We scored 2 more, to make it 4-0, BUT Qz and Ds complained about them being 3hk's, which where probably true. After that, the score was still 2-0, and Ds somehow got a lucky score with Birdie dieing, and me not being R in time. But, we managed to make it 4-1, after a tone of air's and mis concluded 3hk's. At that point, I was for sure, we would win, with a final score of 5-1, but not, Qz got lucky and killed me after Birdie lost the flag making it 4-2. At that point, the score at the top of my screen showed 6-2, but in reality it was 4-2. Soon after that happened, me and Birdie managed to kill Qz, and Ds around the same time, making it an automatic game. To conclude, we enjoyed it when the score was 5-1(Really 3-1) but at the end, it just got pathetic, and stupid, making whantil out of the mappool, pff. Anyway, I had fun. If we re-matched these games, with Carrotade in Atom Heart, we could have had a better chance. Believe me.

[Quickz]

We scored 2 more, to make it 4-0, BUT Qz and Ds complained about them being 3hk's, which where probably true.

I'm not sure if I should respond to this as Supervisor of the tournament, but as parcipent then: It's just lame to say 'which where probably true' when you know they were, since you read the chatlogs.

Anyway, I had fun. If we re-matched these games, with Carrotade in Atom Heart, we could have had a better chance. Believe me.

Well, it isn't such a big difference. The only disadvantage is the fact that you should remember who carries the flag, but that counts for both teams. And we could've done a lot better in Whantil as well with less lag.

Anyway, this is getting childish ;P gg anyway.

[Hitch]

Haha, I was in a rush, typing this up, and wanted to make an exciting story to read, lol.

[Quickz]

Unactive teams till now:

CFC (Chiyu/Shaney) - out
WW (FireSworD/Unhit) - active
LiB (Grytolle/Maverick) - active
RAWR (R3ptile/Turkawka) - out
VIP (AJazz/nonomu198) - semi-active, lol.
NAOSB (St.Louis/Sucer) - active
AA (Majorek/Yum) - half active

If some players/teams think they won't manage to play any of their matches (because of themselves), please let me know, so I can get some replacements. Also, if you think your teammate can't play, try to find a new partner, but just post here (so you don't look unactive and risk being kicked).

For standings and results, check the tourney-page, it's updated now.

[Unhit]

i was busy over this weekend (due to an exam), while fs had a lot of time 8( i hope we'll get to play this week.

[Raven aka StL]

I'll make sure NAOSB kicks the crap outta someone this week.

[Vegito]

as far as Im concerned R3ptile and Turkawka are both out.

[Grytolle]

sure, whatever your concerns have to do with this

[Quickz]

sure, whatever your concerns have to do with this

How about yourself and Mav, Gry?

[R3ptile]

R3ptile and Turkawka are both out.
that's right

[shaney]

Unactive teams till now:

CFC (Chiyu/Shaney)
WW (FireSworD/Unhit) - active ;P
LiB (Grytolle/Maverick)
RAWR (R3ptile/Turkawka)
VIP (AJazz/nonomu198)
NAOSB (St.Louis/Sucer) - active
AA (Majorek/Yum) - Yum is out, Majorek not sure?

If some players/teams think they won't manage to play any of their matches (because of themselves), please let me know, so I can get some replacements. Also, if you think your teammate can't play, try to find a new partner, but just post here (so you don't look unactive and risk being kicked).

For standings and results, check the tourney-page, it's updated now.


CFC unactive? we are live and kicking but not for a betrayals tournament , i refuse to play , (PA)

[Personal attack. Please refrain from flaming or insulting people. - FQuist]

[Majorek]

AA is half active, i will find my new partner soon, kay?

[R3ptile]

Nonomu and I might team up soon, stay tuned(!)

[Hitch]

AA is half active, i will find my new partner soon, kay?

This will be your third? :eek:

[Raven aka StL]

Nonomu and I might team up soon, stay tuned(!)

... Or maybe not. :|

[R3ptile]

I replace AJazz because his clan is on an important mission in Alaska
They need to rescue 10 clan members survivors

seriously though, Nononmu and I are officially a team now. Our name is VAWP. Wish us good luck & stuff :D

[Vegito]

Well, that works. Guess we'll need 2 new teams and Majo needs a new teammate o.O.

Also, ???? at Shaney. Its a darn tournament, not CC. :|
Its not like anyone would notice you leaving the tournament. I'd suggest just play for fun and training for the sake of it. If you don't want to play then you'll get replaced. Its impossible to "backstab" the tournament =\

[Quickz]

Well, that works. Guess we'll need 2 new teams and Majo needs a new teammate o.O.

SkulL is Majorek's new teammate and they are in the Black Bracket now
R3p and nonomu teamed up and are also in Black
PurpleJazz replaced cooba earlier, he and Rag stay in Red

So, one spot left in Yellow and one in Blue
One spot is for valmango/Mastersven, probably the one in Yellow
Also, Enigma is finding a teammate, otherwise maybe some iR team can join.

[Nonomu198]

I replace AJazz because his clan is on an important mission in Alaska
They need to rescue 10 clan members survivors

seriously though, Nononmu and I are officially a team now. Our name is VAWP. Wish us good luck & stuff :D

Alaska? Official? VAWP? Good job letting me know these stuff

(Well cya I'm going to Alaska to help some clan members or somthin)

[Grytolle]

mav and i played one round vs ric and anubis
their choice: superconductor
we won 5-3

comments: we had horrible timing, but somehow managed to stay in the game, and finally win

[R3ptile]

ok our game vs. Ric and Anubis is done

first round: 1-5 in Superconductor
horrible game. emp hosted and lagged a lot. i doubt we could've done any better.

second round: 5-4 in Ice Cream Island
the result does not reflect the match as we were pretty much dominating throughout all of it, they were just lucky enough to sneak points here and there.

i find this rule of counting single level results extremely dumb, might even lead me to quit this tourney.. you can never expect players with such crappy connections such as nonomu and i to totally crush our opponents in every single level.

[Anubis]

NI vs VAWP (R3p and nonomu)
Ni wins 5-1 in Superconductor CTF (St Louis hosted)
Ni loses 5-4 in Ice cream island (nonomu hosted)

[Nonomu198]

Ok

VAWP vs NI

round 1 - superconductor, host: St. Louis
1-5 NI won

round 2 - Ice Cream Island, host: Nonomu198
5-4 VAWP won

Overall
6-9 Ni won



Ok, I didn't play for awhile, realy sucked. St.Louis server had 550 ping for poor R3P and I had "only" 500. Ok so we lose. But we had one point right? We can win the next one. So I hosted ICI cuz my server dosent lag for BI and it wil be more or less fair after St.Louis (less if you ask me). Something happened, and we sucked. I don't blame R3p, nor myself, something realy (-)ed in there and we only barely won.


And wuts up with that name, VAWP? Who made that up? We gutta get a new name. Seriosly.


edit:
didn't we say I post? wutever

[R3ptile]

Alaska?
i was forced to write that btw :(

[Quickz]

i find this rule of counting single level results extremely dumb, might even lead me to quit this tourney.. you can never expect players with such crappy connections such as nonomu and i to totally crush our opponents in every single level.

Well, without that 'extremely dumb' rule you would end up with zero points, while you now get one point for winning ICI.

[Raven aka StL]

@ R3p (and people): I told you many times to get another host if I lagged you too much.

[R3ptile]

lol.. you don't need to be a genius to understand that i was basically saying is that i'm not fond of considering individual level scores at all.

[Quickz]

lol.. you don't need to be a genius to understand that i was basically saying is that i'm not fond of considering individual level scores at all.

Well, I hope we won't need them. First I take a look at the W-L record in matches, then in rounds. If people are still tied then, the first thing that counts is the result of the tied teams against eachother. If it happens that that's a draw, only then individual level scores will matter. Still, that's very unlikely.

[Nonomu198]

Wuts up with the ??? team from ze Czech Republic?

[Superjazz]

Well, WCB vs iR-t has been played.

Sdgs vs WCB

Round 1

iR-T [0:5] WCB (Atom Heart 243.5 of WCB)

Round 2

iR-T [3:5] WCB (Happy Semiconductor CTF of iR-T)

Overall

iR-T [3:10] WCB

Round 1

We quite knew iR-T was basically good everywhere. We however expected this level to fit ourselves best this time. It was a fairly quick game with one or two succeeded rushes from us.

Round 2

I perhaps played a bit scrappily on Snooze's side this time, but somehow we managed to even lead 2-0 in the begin, then they really decided to pwn us off, roasting us both around the same moment. It became 3-3 as far as I can remember, and we were the lucky ones to steal the cake for now. Overall this round was really even and intense fight.

[snzspeed]

Well, WCB vs iR-t has been played.

5-0 to WCB in Atom Heart 243.5 (WCB favour)
5-3 to WCB in Happy Semiconductor CTF (iR-t favour)

10-3 in total to WCB

yeah :P it was a nice game and it didnt really lag that much.

[Sasik]

BRB played one round against RHSP.

BRB vs RHPS 2-5 (Semi, RHSP's choice).

Well, DS hosted. It lagged terribly for me. Especially I couldn't hit anyone nor see my opponents coz of the clones. However, I should have already get used to this in jj2 so nvm ;| GG except for the attack of the clones ;p

We will play next round tomorrow :)

[Grytolle]

I should have already get used to this in jj2 so nvm ;| No because lots of games, everything works just fine.

[Speeza]

Me and crazy will fill in the blue bracket.

We are both from the united kingdom , are team name will be , hyperfun team.

[HT]

---------------------------------

Crazy's

crazywct@hotmail.co.uk

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Mine

ryderwct@hotmail.co.uk

[Quickz]

Me and crazy will fill in the blue bracket.

[HT] - Hyperfun Team

Crazy: crazywct@hotmail.co.uk
Speeza: ryderwct@hotmail.co.uk

Euh, lol. Okay, fine :P thanks!

[Quickz]

Okay, well, each bracket has 5 active teams now. If a team leaves (I don't hope so, but IF) they won't be replaced anymore, or at least, I won't search for any new teams.

Progress:
Red Bracket (5/10)
Yellow Bracket (1/10) + 1 unfinished match
Black Bracket (1/10) + 2 unfinished matches
Blue Bracket (2/10)

Which means 9 of 40 matches have been played, so I guess the tourney is progressing 'quite well'. Another thing: the K.O.-stage is online now. The no. 1's were placed randomly, with the no. 3 in their half and the no. 2 in the other one.

[Raven aka StL]

Sucer seems to have random problems with jj2, so I don't know what'll happen with NAOSB...
Matters not for now.

[Vegito]

<33 Vs. GP

Round 1 - BBlair (<33's choice. Veg host)
5-2 to <33

Round 2 - Rainbow Hills (GP's choice. Sweet host)
5-0 to <33.

G_G

[Raven aka StL]

It's funny to give some rope in the match where you choose the level and have the host, showoff. Typical, nvm.

[Vegito]

Huh?

[Grytolle]

I liked Emperor better when he sometimes maked sense but always was wrong... Now he doesn't make sense at all.

[Speeza]

Theres a problem I was already to play slayer. And then his sister (hotty) came online. He needs to stop playing around and acturlly duel.

[Grytolle]

This is no duel tournament, so what do you mean?

[Raven aka StL]

I liked Emperor better when he sometimes maked sense but always was wrong... Now he doesn't make sense at all.

You would do well to stop throwing these childish comments all the time.
"made"*

[Speeza]

You would do well to stop throwing these childish comments all the time.
"made"*

His comments aren't really childish.

What I mean is slayer and his team mate arn't gonna go agaist me and crazy. His sister was on msn.

[snzspeed]

WCB vs NAOSB

Round 1: AH (hosted by me)

5-2 for WCB

Round 2: AYB (hosted by emp)

5-2 for WCB

i think it was a nice game eventough i forgot to score once ;p

[Superjazz]

Exciting game, uh and more even than it might look. 10-4 in overall anyway.

We'll meet in the finals/semi NAOSB, don't we?

[Raven aka StL]

That depends on can we manage to combine our playstyles better.

Also... (You might feel like calling it excuses...) but this was just about the worst thinkable time (for me) to play this (no doubt hardest match of the division for us).
Of course, I should take care to be in relatively good shape in a tournament when the deadline of the matches isn't that far away...

Well this time I was in very bad shape, although I played very well just 4 days ago.
I also noticed (for like the 20th time) that mine and Sucer's ways of playing make a bad combination. I'm not a 'super offensive player' like Sucer seems to be, so I kinda drag him down considering the team strategy that forms around his gameplay. He is also a dynamic player (win or lose styled) and isn't that conservative, so when we get roasted even somewhat simultaneously, it's an easy score for the opponent.

SJ and Snooze are a very good team and can maintain consistency in their good play sometimes for unnatural periods.
In this game, especially, I noticed that they both played very offensively and yet managed to leave the cracks in their defenses very small.

When I compare both teams from each standpoint that comes to mind, I can quite safely say that 4-10 (2-5 and 2-5) wasn't that bad of us.
Although Sucer dominated our team's rather lengthy scoreboard with his 'mega offensive', an equal portion of our defensive measures became my responsibility.

Nevertheless, it's still true that the better (and pretty much only actual...) team won this one. We might've lost a battle, but not the war (as far as I'm concerned).

[Sucer]

Although Sucer dominated our team's rather lengthy scoreboard with his 'mega offensive', an equal portion of our defensive measures became my responsibility.

I know I might do wrong to comment on this one, but I don't agree with you. I wonder what those defensive measures were, as 80% of the points the enemy scored were coused because I died and you were not r. Of course I failed to be r a few times too, but you just can't say that you took care of the defensive stuff more than I did, because it is too obvious that you didn't. Just look at the chatlogs.
Anyways we all have our bad days and it's not a competition of one player so you shouldn't feel worried to find an excuse how you were as useful as I was. It's a teamgame and our team lost. No need to pick on any individuals.

[Raven aka StL]

You don't have to try my patience in every turn.
Agree or disagree, it's irrelevant.

Also, it was you who kept dying with bad timing and sometimes even randomly, while I was struggling to be R at the right time, while trying to kill the flag carrier, who you kept killing away from our base so they just kept recapturing.
But enough about that, it's in the past now.

Don't think you're perfect.

[Sucer]

Don't think you're perfect.

Of course I'm not. Have I ever said I was perfect? No! For example Superjazz is a far better teamplayer than I am. All I'm saying is that if I play better than you, you don't have to start making a bunch of reasons why it is so. I happened to make all of our scores and keykill half of them myself, so what! You don't have to come here babbling about some defensive stuff which you apparently "took care of" (so well actually that we lost 10-4 gg). Sometimes a player playes better than you! Please just accept it and stop making excuses.

[Robee]

iR-T 8-9 NAOSB

iR-T's level: Happysemiconductor CTF
Result: 5-3 to NAOSB
Comment: I think that we played good but they were better.

NAOSB's level: Bloodbunny's lair
Result: 5-4 to iR-T
Comment We were leading 4-2, I could score for 5-2, but I got airhit or someone stomped my lagclone idk. Anyway GG! ;)

[Ragnarok!]

iR-T 8-9 NAOSB

iR-T's level: Happysemiconductor CTF
Result: 5-3 to NAOSB
Comment: I think that we played good but they were better.

NAOSB's level: Bloodbunny's lair
Result: 5-4 to iR-T
Comment We were leading 4-2, I could score for 5-2, but I got airhit or someone stomped my lagclone idk. Anyway GG! ;)

What he said.

[Raven aka StL]

Yeah, that's how it went.

[Sucer]

How many teams continue from these beginning divisions again?

[Superjazz]

The best 3 teams of each bracket will qualify for the knockout-stage.

So 12 in total.

[Quickz]

Yes, what Superjazz said. Also, check this (http://www.jazz2online.com/tourneys/dit/finalstage.html) and the 88th post in this thread.

[Nonomu198]

The "Tournament teams preview" is dead.

[Sucer]

Lolz:P Me and Emp make a good team:) I'm sure we'll get to the knockout stage.

[Raven aka StL]

We'd make a good team if we could fuse together our (impossible to fuse together) playing styles. Either I have to train (like hell) to play the berserk, maximum attack style, or you have to play more defensively and a lot less offensively.

[Sucer]

Either I have to train (like hell) to play the berserk, maximum attack style, or you have to play more defensively and a lot less offensively.
But I'm afraid that a more defensive style of playing will give room to the opponents to take control over the level which might prove very dangerous especially againts strong opponents:) Just train like hell XD

[Quickz]

Red Bracket

Girl Power (Ana/Sweet) vs. UK-Team (Ragnarok/PurpleJazz)

This was the first match of the Britains, while it was already the 3rd of the girls. The girls picked semi, while the guys picked JE.

Round 1: Happy Semiconductor CTF (host: Ragnarok)
5-4 Girl Power

Round 2: Jungle's Edge (host: Sweet)
5-1 Girl Power

Overall score:
10-5 Girl Power

[Superjazz]

Update statistics plz ;D

[Raven aka StL]

Ana keeps improving. :)
Sweet is an awesome team player, though. ;)

[Superjazz]

Surprising result.

Looking at the yellow and black brackets, most teams haven't yet played even a single match. I hope this isn't a sign of forgetfulness, since they are going to have to hurry with their match-ups. They soon notice they got less than a week to finish all their matches.

Perhaps 'flexible deadlines' will this time give them a little more of chance, but I'm still not sure if every team wakes up to play.

[Grytolle]

We've played half a game!

[Nonomu198]

Surprising result.

Looking at the yellow and black brackets, most teams haven't yet played even a single match. I hope this isn't a sign of forgetfulness, since they are going to have to hurry with their match-ups. They soon notice they got less than a week to finish all their matches.

Perhaps 'flexible deadlines' will this time give them a little more of chance, but I'm still not sure if every team wakes up to play.

But all of my matches go poopy and gets boom then no match :[

[Hitch]

<b>Red Bracket</b>

<b>OEDOTWHAB (Hitch/Birdie) vs. Girl Power (Ana/Sweet)</b>


<b>Round 1: Ice Cream Island (Host: Hitch)
5-1 OEDOTWHAB</b>

Alright so this was the first round between me and Birdie vs. Ana and Sweet. It started off really slow then we start to get the groove. At about 4-0 we thought we where going to blow out, but they scored, and we got bad timing. Really bad timing. Although that happened the last point was rushed. GG.

<b>Round 2: Jungle's Edge (Host: Sweet)
5-1 Girl Power</b>

Okay, Sweet hosted this game in Jungle's Edge. We started off good with 1-0. Then we started to have some bad timing. And certain points in time I was R, on top of the flag, but when Birdie would lose the flag, they would seem to score before I could capture (Sweet in this case) most likely server advantage, but who knows. After that, we had a few 3hk's and I started to see lag clones. When we finished the game, it was 5-1, as well as 1-2 scores from a 3hk I had. Me, Qz, Sweet, and Birdie looked over the logs very well, and there seemed to be some prof of me having a 3hk but it wasn't official. Perhaps if we stopped the game to fix the scores, there might of been a fairer score (4-1 and play tell 5) but whatever. Overall, this game was very close even though the score doesn't show. <s>BAD GAME</s> Good game. ;)

<b>Overall score:
6-6 DRAW!</b>

[Raven aka StL]

People always like to complain about the lag they had, when the opposition supposedly had just as much (or more) lag.
I keep taking note, day in and day out how huge an effect lag has on each and every real-time online match-up.
If there were no lag (the impossible dream), I'd have had twice, thrice (or more) as much chance of winning well over 65 % of the matches I've played.

[Grytolle]

First things first; Mav and I leave the tournament. We haven't managed to get a single match finished, despite being online a looot.

Reasons:
1) Some teams are imposisble to reach (read: Zaba)
2) My connection has prevented me to play evening time, but still, we haven't even been able to play against people in the weekends
3) Most importantly, the tournament arranging is flawed. Why are there no backups in the teams? Why is there a ridiculously huge amount of teams in? To be honest, I only think the tournament has a slight chance of finishing because of massive forfeits.

Lastly, Quickz not having made the rules himself, and not applying them fairly (that means; as they are written) has added up to my personal annoyance, which doesn't make me more eager to stay in the tournament.

[Anubis]

Hitch nice try to edit the log. GG

[Vegito]

First things first; Mav and I leave the tournament. We haven't managed to get a single match finished, despite being online a looot.

Reasons:
1) Some teams are imposisble to reach (read: Zaba)
2) My connection has prevented me to play evening time, but still, we haven't even been able to play against people in the weekends
3) Most importantly, the tournament arranging is flawed. Why are there no backups in the teams? Why is there a ridiculously huge amount of teams in? To be honest, I only think the tournament has a slight chance of finishing because of massive forfeits.

Lastly, Quickz not having made the rules himself, and not applying them fairly (that means; as they are written) has added up to my personal annoyance, which doesn't make me more eager to stay in the tournament.

I personally gotta agree with this, yes. Not many people care about playing at all really, too many teams, no more than 2 people per team. :|
Anyways, whatever

[Superjazz]

That means...that the Black Bracket will become the easiest one by far, most likely.

I don't know if just one or two backups help a lot, because it's just certain people who are inactive/unavailable at certain times. It would be better to go for a clan-tournament to have minimum amount of forfeits. You see, Red and Blue brackets are progressing well, while Yellow and Black brackets only have 1 match completed each. I wouldn't really put all blame on Quickz.

[Grytolle]

I didn't. But he could have done a lot to prevent forfeits. Limiting the amount of teams, requiring substitutes, etc

[Nonomu198]

Black bracket only have 1 match completed each. I wouldn't really put all blame on Quickz.

I do. There is another match that has been played but CERTAIN people are too chicken to admit it.

And yah a 3 people teams will rock.

[Sasik]

Well, I tried to arrange matches in my bracket, but the only team which took this a bit seriously and with which I could set the date was RHPS (Yasco/Sq). Still, we didn't finish our match yet =/

Wenn I set the date of our match with Dragon/Wielki, I was the only person who was online and able to play at the set time. So the problem is that some people only joins the tournament and later don't care about it.

Really, no one from my opponents contacted me to set the date of our match etc. So what can I do more? It's obvious that this tournament will never end without technical wins.

[Hitch]

Hitch nice try to edit the log. GG

Huh?

[Quickz]

Okay, so it's obvious the groupstage is failing. It's 3 days to the deadline, but I'm not gonna wait for matches that won't be finished anyway. So, that means the Final Stage (or K.O.-stage) can start now. The teams who performed well have 'easier' draws than the inactive teams. So forget your groupstage-matches and start concentrating on the K.O.-stage. Also, check out the updated rules and mappool.

First of all, 2 inactive teams are out now, which are Majorek/SkulL and speeza/crazy. That means 18 teams are left, so 4 teams should play for 2 spots in the draw: the winner of Ragnarok/PurpleJazz vs. Hitch/Birdie (I'll use the Red Bracket standings for that one) will face Squirrel/Yasco. The winner of Dragon/Wielki (who didn't show up for one match) vs. valmango/Master Sven will face Grytolle/Maverick. For other match-ups, use the link in my signature. Since this is kinda new, the deadline for the 1/8 finals will be 16 March.

All the deadlines for the Upper Bracket:
1/8 Finals: 16 March
Quarterfinals: 26 March
Semi-finals: 6 April
Final: 13 April

A match now is best-of-3. So if both teams win one round, a deciding round has to be played. If both teams can't agree, the Supervisor or any Official will decide.

[Vegito]

Interesting.
Gry and Mave in again it seems too.
Oh well, gl then I guess =P hope the matches will get played this time =]

[Quickz]

Oh well, gl then I guess =P hope the matches will get played this time =]

Yes, well, it should be easier to arrange one single match, since you can focus only on that o ne. Also, the inactive players are out now. All 'rounds' are like 1,5 weeks with at least one weeekend, so that should be enough.

[Vegito]

yeah. a weeekend will surely help

[Unhit]

I hope FS and i will have the time now. We were already rather close to playing the game with Sasik, so i really hope this works out now..

[Vegito]

Go and play already :+ > : (

[master sven]

Wielki and Dragon, come online plz....:P

[Raven aka StL]

At least Dragon is on relatively all the time.

[Nonomu198]

Wait... Officials? What are officials for? And can we (people who are in the Upper Bracket) fight already, or must we wait for the others who aren't yet or something, or what?

[Superjazz]

I'm afraid that's the main thought in everybody. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PLAY YOUR MATCH BEFORE 9TH MARCH.

[Quickz]

Wait... Officials? What are officials for? And can we (people who are in the Upper Bracket) fight already, or must we wait for the others who aren't yet or something, or what?

Yes, you can play. PLEASE PLAY, lol.

Officials: since it's now best of 3 (level team 1, level team 2, neutral level) in rounds, you'll need people to decide on a neutral level if needed. There are uhh, 5 officials, so you can ask an unbiased one.

Also, they can decide together how to progress when problems occur.

[Sucer]

So lol what happens if someone hasn't played their games?

[Vegito]

Unless this tournament doesn;t revive itself, or rather, unless people start caring to organize games, this tournament is dead ;)

[Raven aka StL]

The competitive scene is only distantly alive.

Anyway, I'm not one of those people who make the first effort, anymore.
Too many times in the past have people turned me down for my efforts.
Especially with jj2 associated stuff, lately.

But I'm willing to play just about anytime.

[Hitch]

Seems Wii players have ssbb in their mind.
*cough* Birdie *cough*

[valmango]

Is tourney actually dead? Or it's dead only for teams which haven't played their matches?

[Nonomu198]

;427208']Is tourney actually dead? Or it's dead only for teams which haven't played their matches?

Isn't that the same thing? Tournaments fall because of players not playing.

[Sasik]

Hmm...is this tourney officialy dead now? Or not? XD

[Nonomu198]

Well, since Rep decided that he is "too good for me" and left the team, I dunno much about the activity. But, the fact that the team fell apart itself might slow things down. And other people dosen't seem to play any matches...


Not officialy til Quickz post it here, but yah, it's dead. Can be revived... I guess. But it's not going to happend.

[Vegito]

Problem is almost nobody cares about tournaments at all. Actually, half of the people don't even know this thread exists. ;\

[Grytolle]

I care about tournaments... but the motivation is a looot higher when it's clan related.

[Vegito]

And when it actually is a tournament which isn't doomed to fail because of no back ups

[master sven]

I care about tournaments... but the motivation is a looot higher when it's clan related.

JJ2WC....

[R3ptile]

VS, CC, 8D, AMC, iR.. perhaps SoL?

yeah, it does seem possible to have another JJ2WC season now.

(duel tourneys have always been better though)

[Grytolle]

Sure, after we've finished the last one!

[R3ptile]

that may as well last forever

[Sasik]

VS, CC, 8D, AMC, iR.. perhaps SoL?

yeah, it does seem possible to have another JJ2WC season now.


Don't forget about TUX ;P

<s>No, I don't care about any jj2wc</s>

[Nonomu198]

<s> And ZEC >[ </s>
How about a tournament WITH BACKUPS OMGWT(-)BBQ

<s>Now is a great time to remind you of the 3v3 tournament possibility</s>

[Unhit]

y 3 people per team would've been great, because im pretty sure many more games would have been played if every team had had a backup player.

[Grytolle]

Any non-clan tournament will fail

[master sven]

'I (R3ptile) have finally decided to quit my job as the supervisor of JJ2WC. Yasco (and perhaps Sasik?) are now the men in charge, and any questions regarding the tournament and its future should be addressed to them.'