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DanZeal
Sep 11, 2009, 02:08 AM
http://jazzjackrabbit.net/own_files/logo3_50.png (http://jazzjackrabbit.net)

JazzJackrabbit.net (http://jazzjackrabbit.net) and "the crew" is organizing a CTF duel-tourney.
There will be prices for the top 3 players (specially designed T-shirts). If the player belongs to a clan, that clan will be awarded under "awards" here on jjnet.
You need to be fast signing up for this tourney, because there is a 32 player limit!

Grytolle
Sep 11, 2009, 02:17 AM
"nice"!

Raven aka StL
Sep 11, 2009, 03:18 AM
As long as the mappool is at least somewhat credible (which I don't doubt in the least)... gg

Superjazz
Sep 11, 2009, 03:43 AM
The MapPool and Rules are viewable for everyone now, and they should be somewhat final ones. Everyone should read them carefully. Remember that the MapPool is binding like in BatTourney, but you are allowed to veto 2 maps from it(10 maps total.)

Since I am an organizing admin of the tournament,(with Sasik as an assistant admin) I won't be playing myself unless I happen to be the last player needed to complete the sign ups,(in case there is no one else) or if another player equal to me decides to leave the tournament in the first stage.

Also for players who sign up: I really suggest you put some effort for contacting your opponent when you should be facing him/her. I won't be taking this tournament to the end if more than half of the matches are technical wins after the first couple of stages.

Anubis
Sep 11, 2009, 06:41 AM
I'm in.

Superjazz
Sep 11, 2009, 06:51 AM
Hello Alex! :D

Also some old and classical tournament players like Vegito, spaceboy, CelL, and of course the regular tournament maniac player Enigma would be well appreciated to sign up.

snzspeed
Sep 11, 2009, 09:09 AM
surprise :D

Superjazz
Sep 11, 2009, 10:17 AM
Gj Snz.

Also about your Veto-maps, you can start posting them here now. I will be adding them to your profiles later. Remember, that you aren't forced to veto anything if you want to be 'nice', but I suggest you simply veto the maps you like the least of. Also, pick carefully because you cannot change them after first stage anymore.

As well, if several people wish me to sign up anyway, eventhough I work as the main admin of the tournament, then I shall. :)

PurpleJazz
Sep 11, 2009, 10:23 AM
I've decided to veto Knightmare Castleand Technodus Cargo Station.

(sorry Rag, but I honestly think TCS is unbalanced, even when dueling ;d)

EDIT: Changed SBv2 to KMC.

CelL
Sep 11, 2009, 10:25 AM
Sure, I'm in.

Enigma
Sep 11, 2009, 10:28 AM
Hello Alex! :D

Also some old and classical tournament players like Vegito, R3ptile/spaceboy, CelL, and of course the regular tournament maniac player Enigma would be well appreciated to sign up.

Since I have a tradition of making a fool out of myself in each and every tournament I enter and I have no intention of ruining that perfect record: in.

I forbid anyone to choose City of the Snooze or Knightmare Castle against me.

Superjazz
Sep 11, 2009, 10:32 AM
Thank you dudes! =D

snzspeed
Sep 11, 2009, 11:08 AM
Ill veto TCS and KC

Superjazz
Sep 11, 2009, 11:20 AM
Well, I must admit I am more than impressed by the activity. It has been 9 hours since the sign ups opened, and already 23 players signed up. Keep it, people! (y)

By the way CelL, remember to add yourself to the sign up page! I've counted you in for now though.

Vegito
Sep 11, 2009, 11:30 AM
I'll sign up and see if I'll be motivated enough ;-)
(Don't worry, if I dont feel like playing I'll be saying so before the tournament starts, if I do play I will be contacting the player myself too..)

I say bye to the players who want to choose DCF and Slab Ratz against me.

Superjazz
Sep 11, 2009, 11:41 AM
So just tell me if you mind playing, and I'll find a replacement for you. (I think I got somebody already. :D)

So during the first sign up day, a total of 27 players signed up. Good job!

DanZeal
Sep 12, 2009, 01:54 AM
The player list is now FULL!

Foly
Sep 12, 2009, 02:16 AM
When i click "Duel Tourney" i get {content}... bug?

Superjazz
Sep 12, 2009, 02:36 AM
Yeah, well...that was an amazingly FAST sign up for this amount of players. 32 players under 24 hours! Apparently JJnet is also enough popular for it's regular visitors to make this possible.

@Foly: The content of the Tournament-section seems broken right now, I guess Dan will fix it in time, or it might be that he is editing the code or something.

By the way, I'd like to note you that this tournament might get started on tomorrow already.

Vegito
Sep 12, 2009, 02:53 AM
That would be nice, considering I can only play at weekends :\ .. so better today than tomorrow ;o.
Anyway, I didn't add my email to the sign up list cause I dont want spam bots to find it. It's not encrypted. If I have to duel you, I will contact *you* unless you find me on IRC >: )

Raven aka StL
Sep 12, 2009, 11:44 AM
The duel tourney page oughta be fixed in a flash (or alternatively someone should post the mappool here).

Superjazz
Sep 12, 2009, 01:26 PM
All Your Base
City of the Sn00zE
Destroyed Cassis Factory
Jungle's Edge
Knightmare Castle
Medieval Skycrapers
Security Breach v2
Slab RatZ
Technodus Cargo Station

The tournament will begin as soon as the site problem gets fixed. We require Nimrod's help a bit.

EDIT: Awesome timing Gry!

Grytolle
Sep 12, 2009, 01:26 PM
http://jazzjackrabbit.net/putty/map_pics/

Superjazz
Sep 12, 2009, 02:29 PM
The tournament site is alive and working again! Expect for Bracket Draws soon.

FireSworD
Sep 12, 2009, 03:04 PM
The Mappool is very well done, good job. I'm pretty optimistic this will be one of the best jj2 tournaments we've had so far. I have a good feeling about this.

I don't have any strong opinions on which levels I want to veto except KMC and BBswing. Also, I will be very strict on who's allowed to host my duels, so I hope there will be no trouble for that.

Raven aka StL
Sep 12, 2009, 05:41 PM
I'll veto Cassis Factory and Slab Ratz. (Raven)

FireSworD
Sep 12, 2009, 09:14 PM
Before this tourney starts. I think it's appropiate to state that the dueling results will probably be quite surprising, since this tournament has a mappool focused mainly with balanced levels and newer less played levels. There are definitely some strong players signed up for this tournament, heck anyone can win. That said, I encourage everyone to be smart and watchful of cheating or suspicious activity. After all, it's just a game and nothing really carries that much or any weight (Your bad because you kill people!). So in the end someone has to win, no matter who's against who.

Foly
Sep 12, 2009, 10:07 PM
I'll veto slab ratz and swingin' jazz.

Unhit
Sep 13, 2009, 02:07 AM
Good mappool (y)

Vegito
Sep 13, 2009, 03:02 AM
I agree, theres 2 levels I dislike and I could even veto them out (y)
I hope, as FS said, that this will be one of the best tournaments we've had so far. It's quite long ago since we had a serious tournament try.

PurpleJazz
Sep 13, 2009, 10:27 AM
PurpleJazz vs Micky

1st Choice: Swingin' Jazz (Micky)
Score: 2-1
Winner: PurpleJazz
Comments:

This was his choice. It took quite a long time as he was quite hard to kill, since he tended to create seeker walls a lot. Still a decent game, although I could've probably been a bit faster and/or a bit more careful. The timelimit ran out, so we didn't make it to 5 points although we still had a winning result.

2nd Choice: Mediveal Skyscrapers (PurpleJazz)
Score: 5-0
Winner: Micky
Comments:

I really don't know what happened here. I wanted to save my best levels for later rounds so I decided to go with a different choice. However, turns out I suck horribly here. I played like a total idiot, often letting him get away or running straight into his seekers. Not only that, the server lagged horribly in this game, and I got aired several times and even a 3hk.

3rd Choice: Jungle's Edge (Neutral)
Score: 5-0
Winner: PurpleJazz
Comments:

Well, after that horrible MS game I felt like getting my revenge. Plus, I was kinda desperate not to lose on the first round. :P Good game.

Overall Winner: PurpleJazz (7-6)

Thanks to Semili for hosting the first two games, and Zeal Duels for hosting the neutral game!

Superjazz
Sep 13, 2009, 10:36 AM
As some of you may have already seen the News on JJnet, I'd like to report the rest here as well, that the tournament has begun. The deadline for one stage is 2 weeks by default, but for the first stage it has been already extended, and so the absolute deadline is now 3 weeks, since SR and musti cannot play for the next 2. So:

Deadline: October 4th


Also, I will be soon adding everyone's veto-maps in playernames, so you'll find them out easier. Remember that if you forgot to veto any maps at all, you can still do that even after your first match. However changing vetos is forbidden, as the rules say. When you manage to contact your opponent and agree on a time for your match,(you can play immediately as well, if it fits you two) you should then post it here so I'm able to put it in the schedule on the website.

As you may see the draws made were not full random(which would have been unfair for the more experienced players.) But still pretty much random, so that it's not 100% balanced, which can be exciting in it's own way. I managed to make the draws handily with my own Dice-level, with the assistance of DanZeal, Ragnarok, and Snooze, so credits for them.

Now go ahead, and begin playing. :lori:

EDIT: Well done PJ. That was fast, I admit.

Troglobite
Sep 13, 2009, 02:35 PM
I'll veto Swinging Jazz and Medieval Skyscrapers.

snzspeed
Sep 13, 2009, 03:09 PM
Snooze vs Troglobite
My choice: All your base CTF: 5-2 for me

Trog's choice: Jungle's Edge: 5-0 for me

thanks to spaceboy for hosting :)

Troglobite
Sep 13, 2009, 03:16 PM
Snz won both games by a pretty large amount. On AYB, I was able to get a kill or two, and I believe one of my points was a rush, but he still dominated for the most part. I was nver really able to get the carrot. For my choice, I was originally going to pick destroyed cassis factory, but it wasn't on the server's level list. Then I picked knightmare castle, which he had vetoed, so we ended up playing on my third choice, Jungle's Edge. He pretty much dominated, and i never got a kill.

Good games.

Rabbit_King
Sep 14, 2009, 06:09 AM
Sliver won two matches. On bbswing 5-4 and on je 5-1. gg, and good luck sliver in next round xD.

Enigma
Sep 14, 2009, 08:35 AM
Oh dear, first round opponent whom I've never talked to or played with before *adds him on msn and hopes for the best*

-WarrioR-
Sep 14, 2009, 10:45 AM
I veto Technodus Cargo Station and Slab RatZ.

master sven
Sep 15, 2009, 12:44 AM
MS vs Jake

TCS (Jakes lvl)

Score MS: 5 Jake: 0

BBswing (MS's lvl)

Score MS: 5 Jake: 3

Final score in Rounds MS:2 Jake: 0

Final score in Points MS: 10 Jake: 3

GG!

Veg, if you face seginTR or whatever his name is on Friday, could we then play on Sunday?

PurpleJazz
Sep 17, 2009, 07:39 AM
Just for the record, I'll likely be busy during the next few weeks, so if possible could any of my future opponents try to avoid arranging matches on a Monday or Thursday? Thanks.

Vegito
Sep 19, 2009, 01:15 PM
Can someone be banned for only being able to say "ME DUEL YOU???"
Oh - and saying "30 minutes!!!" and "5 minutes!!!" to never return again. That's about it with my opponent. I can't explain him anything nor I can actually ASK him anything cause his English knowledge basically stops there.

Superjazz
Sep 20, 2009, 01:20 AM
Can someone be banned for only being able to say "ME DUEL YOU???"
Oh - and saying "30 minutes!!!" and "5 minutes!!!" to never return again. That's about it with my opponent. I can't explain him anything nor I can actually ASK him anything cause his English knowledge basically stops there.

I get the point. I will be trying to find an equal replacement as soon as possible, since I doubt you vs spaceboy would be very fair for the first stage(he is the only reserve currently.)

EDIT: OK, that came out quite quickly. Here, you have a new opponent Veg: BlueSpaz7
His veto-maps are MS and KMC.

Ask PJ for contact.

Bluespaz7
Sep 20, 2009, 01:40 AM
Yep, I'm here and waiting. =]
By the way, I can't duel on Monday through till Thursday, but I can on Fridays and during the weekend.

You can either contact my via PJ's or my msn, which is bl00sp4z@live.co.uk, although I don't sign on very often so asking PJ for me might be better.

Vegito
Sep 20, 2009, 04:07 AM
Well, today perhaps? I cant duel on weekdays either and don't like to wait .. Master Sven is waiting :D

And thanks, SJ. It was just impossible to really do anything with that guy. He's not online in the weekends and whenever he *IS* online, its impossible to talk :p

Bluespaz7
Sep 20, 2009, 11:51 AM
Bluespaz vs Vegito:

5-1 to Vegito in Jungle's Edge (his choice)
5-3 to Vegito in City of the Sn00zE (my choice)

GG

Vegito
Sep 20, 2009, 12:12 PM
(y)

Superjazz
Sep 20, 2009, 12:30 PM
The tournament is progressing nicely. Half of the first stage matches have been played by now. There are 6 winners who are now able to duel each other. Those are:

Snooze vs The SlaYer
Warrior vs PurpleJazz
MasterSven vs Vegito

Same thing for the other bracket:

Troglobite vs musti
Foly vs micky
Jake vs BlueSpaz

The rest of the players have still got 2 whole weeks of time to finish their first matches, so there is indeed no hurry. But I shall note you that if some duelists don't even give a sign that they would be about to duel soon after next weekend, the hand of fate will be doing it's own part. If some duelists turn out totally inactive, I will threat to replace spaceboy or even myself with them, without caring about equality. Sure, threating is the last option for me, but it might happen if a player doesn't note that he is unavailable to play his match during the next couple of weeks early enough.

However, good luck to everyone. Oh, and I remind you that the tiebreaker level for stage 2 is Security Breach v2.

Raven aka StL
Sep 21, 2009, 12:49 AM
Report: I and Nedim agreed to duel next week.

Superjazz
Sep 21, 2009, 06:04 AM
Affirmative. ;)

CelL
Sep 21, 2009, 06:58 AM
Think I'll veto Jungle's Edge and Destroyed Cassis Factory. Beter late than never. ;p

Oh, and I added and messaged the guy I'm supposed to play on MSN, but he hasn't logged in yet and it's been over a week. Will try to contact him via email.

Vegito
Sep 21, 2009, 07:32 AM
And I will duel MS tonight .. lol.

Vegito
Sep 21, 2009, 11:09 AM
Well, I won though barely. My choice was MS and that didn't quite work out the way I hoped. I still won 2-1 after having a 1-1 score at 10 minutes time. I didn't really have a respawning right flying carrot either nor I had a toaster power up/bouncer power up spawning most of the time. That obviously didn't really help.
Other than that we forgot to put overtime on so the game stopped after 10 minutes instead. When we put overtime on, the game resetted itself so we were both back to 3 hearts rather than me being 1 heart. He had the upper hand at that point but he was under me, I was in a better position for getting the full nrg carrot so I doubt it mattered too much. All in all quite a messy and stressing game. Good job here though, heh. I noticed what not playing duels for ages means though :-).

SBv2 was his choice - this was quite one sided. I managed to score twice pretty quickly, that is also when the game/his motivation was gone/over. I won 5-0.

Gotta say all in all the duels were alright, lag based too. We both had quite a bit of lag. I am not sure what to think of these games :)

Enigma
Sep 21, 2009, 12:20 PM
I'm working on getting my duel done (just to assure you that I haven't forgotten). We haven't been able to do it so far, but Kev is online reasonably often, so I'm sure it's bound to work out sooner or later.

master sven
Sep 21, 2009, 12:20 PM
GG, you won farely, though I managed to play with some level of skill. By the way when the game froze after 10 mins I was above you but fell down :p. NVM GG.

FireSworD
Sep 21, 2009, 03:53 PM
I haven't seen my opponent on jj2 at all, nor am I able to contact him.

Superjazz
Sep 22, 2009, 10:23 AM
Ok, I will try to contact him soon myself. If there's no sign of him until next Sunday, I'll knock him out and try to find a replacement.

Troglobite
Sep 23, 2009, 09:03 AM
I had my second round duel now. (I wonder if I'm the first person to get eliminated entirely)

First Round (My Choice) Destroyed Cassis Factory
4-3, my win
He didn't really know the map, and had to find everything before the round started. He did quite well, and there's a good chance I wouldn't have won without a three health kill against him in the middle.

Second Round (His Choice) Jungle's Edge
5-0 his win
Ouch. He had pretty much complete control, and I was usually able to get a power-up or two after each death, but he was able to dodge many of my shots and I never killed him.

Third Round (Tie Breaker) Security Breach v2
5-1 his win
Again he had control and I never killed him. After the first kill, where he ambushed me over my 1 health carrot, I couldn't get power ups fast enough or get to the carrots when I needed them. I did get a rush right at the end, but then he rushed back and got the final score before I could recapture the flag.

Good Games. Thanks to Cag for hosting.

Vegito
Sep 23, 2009, 10:48 AM
This tournament goes a lot faster than I had honestly expected. And yeah, you're the first one to be out ;)

Enigma
Sep 23, 2009, 10:55 AM
I can claim the dubious honour of being the first of the top seeds to be upset. (Not that I ever understood why I was the 7th seed in the first place).

Round 1, JE (Kev's choice): 5-1 to Kev
Round 2, Slab Ratz (Enig's choice): 2-1 to Enig
Round 3, JE (tie-break): 5-0 to Kev

Um, yeah, I honestly don't know what went wrong here. My shots never seemed to hit him in the JE games, and the carrot was always there for him when they did hit. In the meantime, I got myself butchered even when I tried to be careful. Meh, I guess I'll play my loser bracket duels to be a good sport, but I'm not exactly expecting much.

FawFul
Sep 23, 2009, 10:02 PM
i maybe misunderstood this, but isn't the tiebreaker based on scores instead of wins?

Raven aka StL
Sep 24, 2009, 02:38 AM
The tiebreaker is the 3rd round of a match, so ofc it's about scores.

As for match-scoring (i.e. 5-2, then 3-5 [8-7]) I wouldn't know if a tiebreaker should be required if the other player has scored more points, but I assume it is after seeing past match results.
Also, in this case it couldn't possibly mean that the player who scored more points would win if match wins are 1-2, but round scores are, for example 11-8 (5-0, 2-3, 4-5).

There's reason to deduce that only round wins matter.

DanZeal
Sep 24, 2009, 03:13 AM
From the rules for this tournament:

If the round wins are tied to 1-1 after the first 2 rounds,
there will be a tiebreaker round.

Superjazz
Sep 24, 2009, 06:26 AM
I can claim the dubious honour of being the first of the top seeds to be upset. (Not that I ever understood why I was the 7th seed in the first place).

Round 1, JE (Kev's choice): 5-1 to Kev
Round 2, Slab Ratz (Enig's choice): 2-1 to Enig
Round 3, JE (tie-break): 5-0 to Kev

Um, yeah, I honestly don't know what went wrong here. My shots never seemed to hit him in the JE games, and the carrot was always there for him when they did hit. In the meantime, I got myself butchered even when I tried to be careful. Meh, I guess I'll play my loser bracket duels to be a good sport, but I'm not exactly expecting much.

The tournament seedings weren't 100% accurate, since I dealt players into 4 groups of seedings(Group 1 was 1-8, Group 2 9-16 etc.), I then basically randomed the positions of people in their groups, you got seed number 7. So well, yeah, the seedings somehow ended up pretty accurate, though still not perfectly accurate, which wasn't even the purpose. Why I put you in such a good group, the reason is that you took part already in almost all(or probably every?) past tournament, and usually won some matches. Also your JDC 17 Results were a good enough verification that you should be put to the top. Several losses by 1 point against good players are counted as well.

Anyway, in each tournament we have seen some surprises, greater or lesser, so this one counts as a greater surprise probably. If you feel you shouldn't have earned that high seed, there is also the possibility Kev should have had higher seed instead, since he was in the lowest group. Anyway, since he was a new player to these tournaments, and I didn't really have any good proof of his state, he was automatically put into group 4, like other new players. So if he really played very well, you don't have to be ashamed I guess. But anyway, good luck to the LB. ;P

Bluespaz7
Sep 26, 2009, 12:47 AM
Bluespaz vs Jake:

5-3 to Jake in Swingin' Jazz (my choice)
5-0 to Bluespaz in Slab RatZ (his choice)
5-3 to Bluespaz in Jungle's Edge (tiebreaker)

GG. I kinda sucked in the BBswing round although I guess you can't expect to do well first thing in the morning. =P

Superjazz
Sep 26, 2009, 01:42 AM
Added.

Also, Trog have a look at the match above. Your tiebreaker was supposed to be Jungle's Edge, since it was still round 1 in LB. The tiebreakers then chance along the round numbers of WB. In LB all rounds are twice as long though, except the first one. So if you progressed your next couple of matches would have had SB2 as their tiebreakers. But I'll forgive you this time. I hope others now realize the way it goes too.

PurpleJazz
Sep 26, 2009, 11:44 AM
PurpleJazz vs Warrior

1st Choice: Jungle's Edge (Warrior)
Score: 5-1
Winner: Warrior
Comments:

This was his choice. I tried out a few tactics here and there, which usually work well on most people but Warrior played really intellegently and didn't foolishly walk into any of my traps like most people here. He basically dominated the level quite quickly, and most of the time there was no way of getting near enough to kill him without being killed myself.

2nd Choice: Destroyed Cassis Factory (PurpleJazz)
Score: 4-1
Winner: PurpleJazz
Comments:

For a change I tried a level I was quite familiar with yet never actually dueled in before. I had the upper hand generally because Warrior didn't seem to know the level very well, and so I predicted him quite well and managed to kill him with careful carrot control. It took quite a while though, so we didn't quite reach a 5-X score but it came pretty close.

3rd Choice: Security Breach v2 (Neutral)
Score: 5-0
Winner: Warrior
Comments:

I honestly didn't stand a chance here, I don't think I even hit him once. He totally dominated the level, predicting my every move, hogging all the PUs, camping in the most annoying situations, etc.

Overall Winner: Warrior (11-5)

Well, he won that fare and square I guess, Dragon's server in which we played in had just about no lag at all. Oh well, I guess you can't win every duel. Hello, Loser's Bracket. ;d

Raven aka StL
Sep 29, 2009, 08:33 AM
I and Nedim finally finished our match

Round 1:
Level: JE (Nedim's choice)
Raven 4-5 Nedim

This was quite damn laggy for both of us. I can't play at all under such lags, but he could so he quite easily won this one, although I could make it close with some seek-spam kills. Close to the end he got a rush score that he shouldn't have had.
I got to the base first after shooting him a few dozen times, but he still could score.
This could be accounted as lag that we both had though.

Round 2:
Level: MS (Raven's choice)
Raven 5-0 Nedim

He apparently had only played this level once before and it clearly showed. I could control the entire level and force him into traps quite nicely.

Tie-breaker round:
Level: JE (as depicted by round-rules)
Raven 5-1 Nedim

This hardly lagged for either of us, much unlike the first round. I could play a whole lot better without much lag so I kinda beat him to every powerup, key-area and the carrot throughout the game. At 4-1 he had to go for 15 minutes so we had a break and then finished the match.

Score: Raven 2-1 Nedim
Round scores: Raven 14-6 Nedim

Good luck in the LB.
Thanks to Zeal Duels (laggy as (-)(-)(-)(-)) and Snz (hardly any lag) for hosting.

Superjazz
Sep 29, 2009, 09:46 AM
Zeal Duels has seemed really laggy for me as well for some reason. Anyway, only 4 matches remain for stage 1, and I suppose two of them are to be played this Eve. Great job, dudes!

CelL
Sep 29, 2009, 12:09 PM
So, the guy I'm supposed to play hasn't responded to any messages, and he still hasn't logged onto MSN. I'm pretty busy these days so I can't be bothered to go on jj2 periodically just for the purpose of looking for him. What do I do?

master sven
Sep 29, 2009, 10:44 PM
Musti Playi?

DanZeal
Sep 30, 2009, 02:17 AM
About the lag on ZD.
The server is now on a wired connection instead of WLAN.
An upgrade of the server computer has also been done today.
With both ZA and ZD running minimized, CPU load is now 0-15%.
Broadband upgrade (atleast twice the speed) has been orderd and should take place this week.
I hope this will reduse the lag for some players. But still, i can“t do anything about the distance (located in sweden).

Superjazz
Sep 30, 2009, 06:47 AM
So, the guy I'm supposed to play hasn't responded to any messages, and he still hasn't logged onto MSN. I'm pretty busy these days so I can't be bothered to go on jj2 periodically just for the purpose of looking for him. What do I do?

Actually this is a very similar case with a couple of earlier players that got replaced. The players apparently just signed up, but didn't know what for. I'll try to find a replacement as soon as possible, if you wish to have an opponent instead of having a walkover. Also, I've noticed that you haven't been contactable very much either recently. If you feel that you're having too little spare time yourself, you can also give your place if you like, because I have an eager player in reserve(not myself) just in case.

CelL
Sep 30, 2009, 09:01 AM
Actually this is a very similar case with a couple of earlier players that got replaced. The players apparently just signed up, but didn't know what for. I'll try to find a replacement as soon as possible, if you wish to have an opponent instead of having a walkover. Also, I've noticed that you haven't been contactable very much either recently. If you feel that you're having too little spare time yourself, you can also give your place if you like, because I have an eager player in reserve(not myself) just in case.

If by not very contactable you mean I haven't been on jj2 then that's true, but it's been like that for the last two or three months so that should be no big shock. I'm a bit less on MSN these days as well but that's because uni's been keeping me busy. I still check all my messages at least once a day tho' so I'm still very much contactable, and while I'm busy I can find some spare time to arrange a duel on most any day, unless I have a really pressing deadline coming up.

In short, if you have a willing opponent for me, by all means send him my way and we'll work out a date to play somewhere in the coming days.

Superjazz
Sep 30, 2009, 12:24 PM
Thing is that your duel isn't the only one that is unlikely to be played. I have a trust in FS and his new opponent that they will get their duel played, but Dragon and Fox seem to be having some sort of a conflict about their duel, if I got it right. I have to look into that as well, and consider removing either player if it can't be solved in time. Since I have only one player available in reserve, it is likely that there is still going to be at least one forfeit game in this stage, which is nevertheless very less, when comparing to past tournaments. I had to do a few replacements though, but that is better than just having 'idle' players in the tournament.

Edit: Ok, I heard they should be playing their duel shortly, so as long as you agree, your new opponent will be spaceboy. This is the last replacement for this tournament, and I'll be extending the deadline for your duel a bit if required. However he has been offline a bit as well, so if he either does not reply to me within three days, or rejects after all, then you'll get a technical win.

Also the first forfeit game of the tournament came out a bit unexpectedly on stage 2, although not very surprising from this player. Anyway, Snooze gave SR the pass to quarter-finals due to personal things. He said to continue in LB instead.

Well, the first forfeit came out still, even if it was avoidable until the end of the tournament. I remind you others that there is still a prize for the top-3 of this tournament, so it is really not recommended to give away wins like this.

[GpW]Urbs
Oct 1, 2009, 01:06 AM
dang, the player list is full and I so wanted to play...
btw gj iR, you seem to be whoopin some serious you know what!

Superjazz
Oct 1, 2009, 07:10 AM
Heh, the playerlist fill up was indeed quick...perhaps a little too quick. Anyway CelL, spaceboy has confirmed that he is your new opponent. Good luck!

Vegito
Oct 1, 2009, 09:07 AM
Edit: Ok, I heard they should be playing their duel shortly, so as long as you agree, your new opponent will be spaceboy aka R3ptile. This is the last replacement for this tournament, and I'll be extending the deadline for your duel a bit if required. However he has been offline a bit as well, so if he either does not reply to me within three days, or rejects after all, then you'll get a technical win.

Well, there's always Urbs and Sperry although I'm not sure if she's willing to play. Urbs showed interest just a sec :p

Superjazz
Oct 1, 2009, 09:20 AM
However spaceboy told me a long time ago already that he would have liked to play, so I gave him the last place available at least. Also he and CelL finished their match a moment ago. It was probably the closest match of the tournament so far.

Enigma
Oct 1, 2009, 09:40 AM
*stares eerily at Dragon and Fox until they decide to play*

[GpW]Urbs
Oct 1, 2009, 12:30 PM
i played a couple of ctf games on zeal alpha today, and do I kick (-)(-)(-)!!! Scored 14 out of 15 times for my team in 3 consecutive games:)
these youngbloods have a lot to learn:)
It was a real ego boost, unlike playing against some people from these forums I could name:)
No teamplay though... No, playing with vivando or gry, that's seriously sweet...

Anyhow, just wanted to say one thing: I still got it baby!!

Vegito
Oct 14, 2009, 12:37 PM
So now that things are back up, anything happened?

PurpleJazz
Oct 14, 2009, 09:47 PM
PurpleJazz vs Nerd

1st Choice: Swingin' Jazz (PurpleJazz)
Score: 5-4
Winner: Nerd
Comments:

I honestly played absolutely awfully here, as I had just come home from school and had not had the chance to have a "warm up" yet. I totally messed up the start, I gave away a 2-0 lead and he shot up to 2-4. This was due to a constant string of mistake after mistake, all which could have been preventable. I managed to even the score out to 4-4, but I died on an airhit and he made the last score.

2nd Choice: Jungle's Edge (Nerd)
Score: 5-4
Winner: PurpleJazz
Comments:

Once again, I played like an idiot here, although I seemed to have more luck this time. Just like the previous game, I had a 2-0 lead, but then I started playing too offensively and he overtook at 2-3. I then increase the score to 4-3, although I died on an airhit in which Nerd made the score 4-4. I got the last kill and so I won 5-4.

3rd Choice: Security Breach v2 (Neutral)
Score: 5-0
Winner: PurpleJazz
Comments:

It wasn't until this round that I actually started playing well. I don't usually do well here in duels and after losing 0-5 to Warrior I was worried I might lose this, however turns out I just needed to use different tactics. I played very defensively, camping the bases a lot, which really worked out in the end. :P

Overall Winner: PurpleJazz (14-9)

Thanks to snz for hosting!

Vegito
Oct 15, 2009, 12:11 AM
That was very close O.o.

Superjazz
Oct 18, 2009, 03:00 AM
Just a reminder that the following matches have to be played until the end of next week.

Sliver vs Raven
FawFul vs FireSworD
Enigma vs Dragon

Currently I'm clear about the more active players on each of these pairs, so in case the other one doesn't show up at all, I'm sort of certain who progresses. However you are supposed to play your duel as soon as you both are able to do it. Refusing without a good reason to keep postponing the match is not appreciated.

Vegito
Oct 18, 2009, 04:25 AM
Veg Vs. Fox

BBswing (my choice) 2-5
KMC (his choice) 5-4
Rainbow Hills 5-1

Robee hosted. These were pretty weird games. I didn't lag all that much but espescially at BBswing I got hit at the lamest moments. It was 2-2 until like 30 seconds before the end. That's when he scored with 1h, I hunted him, he killed me instead (so 4-2 then instead of 3-3) and then I let him rush the last score as it was 2 seconds till the end anyway. I felt like I didn't really have control but that 3-2 was just a damn airhit at such an important time. Other than that no lag. He obviously played as good as me otherwise we wouldn't have been at 2-2 after 9.5 minutes. Good job. Perhaps he was better than me here even.

KMC was just as close except this time I felt like I had control over the level and had the upper hand most of the time. I hit him several times at RF/Bouncer power ups and didn't think I'd lose until I was 4-3 behind. Still, after each kill, I thought I'd have him trapped but one way or another it never quite worked out the way I planned/hoped. He had his chances here obviously but this time at the most crusial point I played the best/most careful. Heh.

Both games I played taking huge risks which perhaps I shouldn't have but I felt it was needed to kill him. In KMC it worked out at least although barely.

The 3rd round was Rainbow Hills which we both never dueled in. I had a lot of luck this time with the lag rather than bad luck which I could have had too. Somehow everything would work out the way I wanted and so heres the score. I played more careful here too but I just controlled the level. It wasn't until 3-0 that he scored 3-1 in a rush, I rushed 4-1 right after and had him at 1 heart.. Basically the opposite of what happened to me in BBswing.

Anyway, gg. If you continue to play this way you'll be able to get far. Heh. You played really well. I was really surprised espescially the first 2 rounds were just .. so close. I could have lost this easily. :)

Edit: I hope for the LB to hurry up a bit. I think I'll be kicked to the LB next match.

snzspeed
Oct 20, 2009, 01:36 PM
Snooze vs Bluespaz

BBSWING (my choice) 5-2

Jungle's Edge (his choice) 5-4

i won, gg

Enigma
Oct 21, 2009, 09:13 AM
I'm having a bit of trouble encountering Dragon on msn, so I sent him an e-mail and I'll just hope for the best.

Superjazz
Oct 22, 2009, 06:56 AM
I heard he'll be available Friday/Sunday. So try to look for him around then.

Vegito
Oct 22, 2009, 07:24 AM
And don't mind to contact Warrior when he's on. Warrior is his brother after all ;-). Talking to Warrior will likely result into you dueling Dragon, too :p

Superjazz
Oct 25, 2009, 03:06 AM
FawFul vs FireSworD should be played as soon as possible. If not, then it gives me a hard time to decide which player is more active and motivated to progress. So please, play your match until 20 GMT,(about 8 hours from now on) and it's better for us all. Right now the missing part is FawFul, so he can either show up, or more likely forfeit.

Same goes for Sliver, who has been refusing to duel continuously, although he had the time and ability to play it a long time ago already. If anyone of you see Sliver, tell him that he's got 8 hours remaining to contact and start dueling Raven, or else he receives a forfeit loss.

Superjazz
Oct 25, 2009, 01:21 PM
Alright, in the end I had to give FawFul a walkover from FS, since no suitable moment for playing it was ever found by them. I did this with by throwing a dice, since the decision would have been really hard by finding out which side was more active etc.

So, Sliver somehow managed to show up 35 minutes before the announced deadline, and so Raven vs Sliver was played...or half-played. They played their first round in KMC, which Sliver won. Raven gave up the game before the round 2, so Sliver progresses. I was not watching the whole first round, but I heard there were some annoying conflicts, thus Raven decided to forfeit.

Dear players, those who have not yet played against their new opponent, please play as soon as you can. Although I trust everyone have been fair with the deadlines for now at least, I remind you that the deadlines are not there so that you can delay your match until the very final hours. Whenever there is a suitable moment when both you, and your opponent can play, please do so.

The new deadline for WB Stage 3 and LB Stage 2 matches is: November 8th.

Tiebreaker for WB Stage 3 is Rainbow Hills as mentioned earlier. LB Stage 2 and 3 tiebreakers are both Security Breach v2 as you probably know.

Good luck!

FawFul
Oct 25, 2009, 10:06 PM
it was either both us saying when we should play (which never happened after all due not being able to be online) or FS mostly calling late in the evening. i could accepted of course and asked earlier in the evening, however i wasn't somehow asking. about duelling after eleven, i seriously get tired and lose my keen eye so that wouldn't work out either. even i 'progress' like this, it just stinks.

Vegito
Oct 26, 2009, 02:05 AM
So then still play? It's not like I think it matters. We just need someone to progress. If you play against FS before you play against Quickz, I don't think it matters. Although if you slow down the tournament cause you want to face FS first I guess it will be annoying for Quickz and others :+ (and others..). They might actually like to play soon ;-).

master sven
Oct 29, 2009, 05:36 AM
MS-Musti

And finally we were able to play. Thanks to Foly for hosting.
First, lets mention that Musti played as jazz for some reason and we was ill. It caused him to have not 100% motivation which confused me because I was unsure wether it was a trap. He also let me chose his level, which was TCS.
http://upload.digiex.net/files/29ekm9sjzsbhmmn4rvrt.png

Then I picked AYB
http://upload.digiex.net/files/k2ayxwjgpcf1nt3a7gwo.png

Final Score 9-1 to MS.

GG, next is Kev[CDF].

Superjazz
Oct 29, 2009, 07:34 AM
Nice. Just to mention the remaining tiebreakers are.

UB 4th stage(semi-finals) - Galactic Warfare
UB 5th stage(finals) - Toxin Twister

In the Grand Final I will let the players choose the tiebreaker themselves, in both first and a possible second match. In case they cannot come up with anything that both like, I don't hesitate to pick myself.

master sven
Oct 31, 2009, 11:31 AM
MS-Kev
Medieval Skyscrapers: 5-0 (my pick)
Security Breach V2: 4-2 (his pick)
Final Score 9-2 to me.
He started very well on sbv2, but I managed to make a comeback. GG!

Quickz
Nov 2, 2009, 10:56 AM
Well, 3 matches done in less than 24 hours is for me reason enough to post the results here..

First FawFuL had to send me to the LB, which he did quite fast ;D
Swingin' Jazz (Qz's choice): 5-0 FawFuL
City of the Sn00zE (Faw's choice): 5-0 FawFuL
Overall: 2-0 (10-0) FawFuL

Then I immediately played against PJ in the upperhalf of the LB ..
Jungle's Edge (Qz's choice): 3-5 PurpleJazz
City of the Sn00zE (PJ's choice): 5-2 Quickz
Rainbow Hills v.2 (tiebreaker): 5-1 Quickz
Overall: 2-1 (13-8) Quickz

.. and today I played vs. Master Sven in the LB
Jungle's Edge (Sven's choice): 5-1 Quickz
All your Base CTF (Qz's choice): 5-4 Quickz
Overall: 2-0 (10-5) Quickz

Now I'll have to wait for Veg and Warrior to see who'll be my next opponent! ^^ Good luck, guys!

Superjazz
Nov 3, 2009, 12:42 PM
That's some nice dedication, Quickz. :)

Anyway, nearly all of the matches were somewhat done much before the deadline. I only had to knock out Micky myself, since he was sort of misbehaving. So that way FireSworD gets a walkover, his next opponent is Czech. We have seen some really nice surprises during the last stage as well.

So, the new deadline for WB Stage 4(semi-finals) and LB Stage 3 is November 15th.

Also a reminder, that the tiebreaker is Galactic Warfare.

DanZeal
Nov 3, 2009, 11:32 PM
I only had to knock out Micky myself, since he was sort of misbehaving. So that way FireSworD gets a walkover, his next opponent is Micky.

His next opponent is Czech :p

Superjazz
Nov 4, 2009, 06:10 AM
That's kind of rare from me. Thanks for correcting. :D

snzspeed
Nov 13, 2009, 07:48 AM
im out, jj2 mp sucks :D

Superjazz
Nov 13, 2009, 09:49 AM
I predicted it even before the tournament started. :P

Vegito
Nov 13, 2009, 12:23 PM
..so did I

FireSworD
Nov 13, 2009, 02:07 PM
I'm going to continue playing despite the fact an overwhelming amount of the current jj2 audience is eastern and the fact I have to put up with lots of bs in duels. I still have high hopes for this tournament even though there are quite a few walkovers etc.

Apology to Czech, but I am not going to duel you with (both?) rounds on a eastern host, as I brought up when I first signed up for this tournament and I am keeping my word. Through all the matches I've played lag is a big factor when it comes to winning duels, although there are exceptions sometimes. Hopefully we'll be able to settle it this weekend.

Vegito
Nov 14, 2009, 11:58 AM
Veg Vs War 3-2(x2) in BBswing and JE (OT in JE). Played in zeal duels. Lag wasn't a very big factor in either of these duels except last kill

screenshot 2nd round: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1248/96988684.png

Superjazz
Nov 16, 2009, 06:52 AM
One of the duels seems to be requiring deadline extension, since another player isn't showing up again. However I'm not letting this to delay the rest of the tournament, since there are now fewer players participating, and I don't want this tournament to take too long.

Anubis vs Czech - Deadline November 29th (Tiebreaker - Rainbow Hills)
Fox vs Raven - Deadline November 29th (Tiebreaker - Rainbow Hills)
Warrior vs Quickz - Deadline December 13th (Tiebreaker - Galactic Warfare)

sliver vs FawFul - ABSOLUTE Deadline November 22nd (Tiebreaker - Galactic Warfare)

Vegito
Nov 22, 2009, 11:39 AM
CC upper bracket final O+

Raven aka StL
Nov 23, 2009, 01:09 AM
Horrible draw ;P

Grytolle
Nov 23, 2009, 03:01 AM
CC upper bracket final O+no one is surprised}>}>}>}>}>}>}>}>}>}>}>}>}>

Superjazz
Nov 23, 2009, 06:15 AM
CC Upper Bracket Final was partly played, until it 'paused' last night. :mad:

Anyway, sliver showed up at the last moments(again.) Well, apparently he has lost his motivation on this tournament, since FawFuL won him 5-0 on both rounds in no time. So a forfeit loss wouldn't have made a difference, perhaps. Sliver's next opponent is to be announced yet, so he'll have a little more time there.

The other deadlines in my previous post stay, plus there is now a new one.

FawFuL vs Vegito - Deadline December 6th (Tiebreaker Toxin Twister) (This game is currently in progress though)

Vegito
Nov 23, 2009, 06:56 AM
Why do I think that Warrior Vs Quickz has a *VERY FAR AHEAD* deadline? Compared to even, the UB final?

Ragnarok!
Nov 23, 2009, 07:38 AM
I support Team CzEcH ;o

Vegito
Nov 23, 2009, 07:44 AM
1-1 at the moment.
2-0 SBv2, 2-3 TCS after 2-2 at OT. Hm. ICI as last level and still I'm not excited really. Wtf?

Ragnarok!
Nov 23, 2009, 07:57 AM
Which numbnutt picked TCS?

Vegito
Nov 23, 2009, 09:25 AM
Faw did. I dueled him yesterday as a training there. Lost 5-1. Trainings work, I almost won but bleh lag wasn't meant to be.
Anyway, 3-0 in TT. Heh. TT was lame though, I cto'd twice where he once almost scored but his virusscan popped up. I guess there's an answer for everything.
Once he actually did score but I was CTOing for some .. long time, I couldn't see anything not after the score either. Therefore we actually did -1.

SBv2 was my choice, obviously. Actually FS tipped me to just choose a level I can easily control or that is balanced. That was a good tip cause I never had too many problems there. Let's say he didn't get too close to killing me or at least not on my screen.

TCS he was leading 1-0 with 6:23 to go then we had to stop.
Today I immediately took control and made it 1-2 but then an airhit killed it for me. Lost due to his controlling at the end.

To show how my CTO looked like when Faw scored 1-1 .. here:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7566/lolh.png
As you see, Im still with flag even nor ever died :+

FawFul
Nov 24, 2009, 04:32 AM
i guess the biggest problem was i hate playing with time, veg got the first score in sbv2 and in TT. seeing the beginning of the match you couldn't really predict who would gonna have the first score anyway. it's just i let him score more because i had to try something after his first score and i didn't have that much time. -- playing with time :D. In TT i should have get the first kill.. i had a crush of hits on Veg, however not killing him. got annoyed and deconcentrated after a while which made me run into him. Veg was starting to play better after a while too. (so once again i had to try something to make it 1-1). didn't work out. sbv2 and TT are both campy maps, we both played very defensive. to be honest, if i would play a lot of matches to veg.. i actually think i could win some. we both played pretty well.. but it became odd sometimes due lag and luck. though people maybe noticed that veg is slightly better in sbv2, which is probably so because i didn't really know how to control it very well. what i noticed after a while was that veg stayed in the middle a lot XD.


veg, i actually was very annoyed my virusscanner popped up. it seems it made me deconcentrated too. i was controlling in the beginning stuff, when i was more concentrated.

Vegito
Nov 24, 2009, 04:52 AM
You actually killed me first in TT. Except that you didn't score fortunately for me. It was a CTO of mine too so I sorta thought "Ha. Justice"
Anyway, after that I got the upper hand anyway yeah, heh. You had the first kill, you just forgot to control ;).

Superjazz
Nov 24, 2009, 05:20 AM
Through the tournament I have noticed that some maps just don't fit for duels very well in general. I learned that from those games that were played in them, so I will be picking maps more carefully in the future, don't worry.

Also I guess the time-limit can be raised a bit. Perhaps the 15 minutes that was used in past tournaments is just suitable. With that the players will have a bigger chance to comeback if they lose a score or two in the begin of the game, plus the matches will be fairly easy to schedule still. However, this tournament goes with the 10-minute limit till the end.

This tournament has also progressed well. I'm impressed. Only a few games remain, and two players(FawFuL and Vegito) have already ensured a prize for themselves. There is one more prize left, and one of the remaining players can win it. Those players are: Warrior, Quickz, sliver, Czech, and Fox. Good luck!

Vegito
Nov 26, 2009, 03:05 AM
And thats when we have to wait for 2 duels to happen ...
But hey, as I asked. How comes that Quickz and Warrior had so much time to duel? More than the upper bracket finals? :p

Superjazz
Nov 26, 2009, 03:14 AM
Basically because the other side of the LB is late. The winner of that match can't duel his next opponent anyway until the another side is clear.

Superjazz
Nov 29, 2009, 04:22 AM
I didn't expect it could really happen, but it did this time. A player injured during the tournament (not in the game though), so that he couldn't play for a while anymore. He is Czech, who reported me that his arm is broken, and so decided to leave the tournament, due to that. Get well soon!

Anyway, Fox progresses and his next opponent is sliver. Deadline is December 13th, and tiebreaker is Galactic Warfare, if needed.

Also Warrior vs Quickz was played. It was a fairly close match, although Warrior won both two rounds. His next opponent is clear once the duel I mentioned above is played. Until then, Warrior can have a pause. :cool:

Vegito
Nov 29, 2009, 05:32 AM
A fairly big pause probably. xD
Anyway, best reason ever to give up on a tournament.

Superjazz
Dec 26, 2009, 09:15 AM
The tournament has been "progressing" slowly meanwhile I have been lazy to post anything here. Basically it means that nothing very interesting has happened here. First Fox got a walkover from sliver who quite didn't show up when needed nor did show any interest to play his remaining duel(s.) Same thing with Warrior vs Fox happened just a moment ago. Fox would mainly appear online to me during noon-afternoon, while Warrior was more active in the evening somehow, although they both come from the same country. It was a hard decision to make, but eventually something had to be done, or else this tournament would delay by several months like DIT v1 did. Warrior generally showed more interest in playing his duels and asking his opponents, so that way I made my decision however.

So, yet again it means that Warrior progresses to the next duel, and has now won himself a prize with FawFuL and Vegito, but still there are 2-3 duels remaining. LB Final, and Grand Finals. Next one is of course:

FawFuL vs Warrior, deadline January 10th and tiebreaker level is Toxin Twister.

Vegito
Dec 29, 2009, 11:06 PM
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I wonder why not much interest was shown over the 4th/3rd place fight since there WAS a price.. :+

Raven aka StL
Dec 30, 2009, 12:26 PM
Who paid the price?

Stijn
Dec 30, 2009, 12:27 PM
paid da co$t to be da bo$$

Vegito
Dec 30, 2009, 03:23 PM
I payed my own price, nespresso, what else

Superjazz
Jan 2, 2010, 02:38 PM
Due to Warrior's request, I postponed the deadline by a week, which is now the absolute one. I really hope the duel gets played until then. Also, I'll be making an exception in the rules, since this is sort of a finals-match for Bronze, I'm allowing FawFuL and Warrior to pick any levels from the pool here again, even the ones they used twice. However, tiebreaker still remains Toxin Twister.

Superjazz
Feb 2, 2010, 12:39 PM
Since the tournament was drawing near it's end, I removed all the deadlines, and so I just request the remaining players to duel as soon as possible. Warrior vs FawFuL, was finally played, after a long, long while from the previous tournament match. This match got delayed/postponed several times, but at last it has been played. Only 1 or 2 matches remain. However, we now have a Bronze Medalist.

JJnet Duel Tournament v1.0 3rd place: Warrior

Congratulations!

Also, a prize should be there soon, try contacting DanZeal for that. You may also refuse the prize, of course, and just have the honor.

So this means, that the Grand Finals will be a rematch between Vegito and FawFuL. Of course, to become the tournament champion, Vegito requires one victory, meanwhile FawFuL requires two, since Vegito didn't lose a match yet, as you probably know. Both players are allowed to pick any maps from the pool, except vetoes. Tiebreaker(if needed) is also up to them in the first place. There is no schedule for this match yet, but you may expect it to happen soon, I at least hope so.

Vegito
Feb 3, 2010, 10:29 AM
I lost (SBv2) 1-0 and (CotS) 1-0, 1 reason: airhits.

These matches were both lag biased, espescially in SBv2 I got hit 3 times only.. Neither of those times I even saw any bullet in my screen. Basically 3 airhits took the game from me and it was pretty boring of a game too.

In CotS I felt I was the better player although it was my 2nd duel there. I just couldn't kill him then in the end he killed me anyway.

And now I will be mean:

I will be going on holidays tomorrow, I will only get back late next week in which I will then meet an american friend and leave for Belgium almost the same day. After that I will have 7 days of work, then I will leave for Germany. I will not be able to play for some 4 weeks straight.

Due to Warrior and FawFul taking so long I likely have to forfeit the 2nd round as FawFul does not want to play the 2nd round now either. Therefore I wish to tell him GG but being OVER ONE MONTH LATE him playing against Warrior I highly blame them. Just as refusing to play again I highly disagree and hate it for that but there's no reason to drag this on any longer. Good job dragging the tournament on just long enough till I have to forfeit probably.

This tournament was supposed to end in 2009. It was even lucky I could play today still and hoped I'd win but this is just LAME. Refusing to play/pausing the duel tournament for about 1.5 month to then win the finals because I lack the time is pretty awesome.

Maybe we'll meet in March for second round, it's not final yet but I do express my strong feelings against how this went.

Superjazz
Feb 3, 2010, 12:31 PM
I lost 1-0 and 1-0, 1 reason: airhits.

And now I will be mean:

I will be going on holidays tomorrow, I will only get back late next week in which I will then meet an american friend and leave for Belgium almost the same day. After that I will have 7 days of work, then I will leave for Germany. I will not be able to play for some 4 weeks straight.

Due to Warrior and FawFul taking so long I have to forfeit the 2nd round as FawFul does not want to play the 2nd round now either. Therefore I wish to tell him GG but being OVER ONE MONTH LATE him playing against Warrior I highly blame them. Just as refusing to play again I highly disagree and hate it for that but there's no reason to drag this on any longer. Good job dragging the tournament on just long enough till I have to forfeit.

This tournament was supposed to end in 2009. It was even lucky I could play today still and hoped I'd win but this is just LAME. Thanks for playing anyway and have fun with your win. Refusing to play/pausing the duel tournament for about 1.5 month to then win the finals because I lack the time is pretty awesome.

Yeah, this is very unfortunate. I would have kept the deadlines up if I only knew about your plans. Well, of course you told me a bit, but I had no idea of exact date, etc. The previous duel should have indeed happened several weeks ago, but it got delayed several times for whatever reasons. I cannot help with that anymore though.

So, I'm not yet confirming the final result, since the case is this. I'm leaving a chance for Vegito to still play later, and so I'm setting no deadline for now, since I didn't keep one for FawFuL either. Wouldn't be fair. It simply means that this tournament will still be on hold for another long while. After all it doesn't really hurt, since this tournament was supposed to end before 2010 anyway, and yet it didn't and I removed all kinds of deadlines.

@FawFuL: I suppose you should stay tuned for a possible rematch date later in the future, possibly a month forward on. Also don't take all the blame and pressure on your shoulders, since this is still only partially your fault. The previous duel should have been played earlier, you should have been less passive, Warrior should have been less passive, Vegito should have been more informative, and I should have been more dedicative probably. And I get your argument here. Refusing to play after a tiresome match at least makes more sense than refusing to play when you think the stars aren't at perfect position. However, since the case is as it is, you don't yet receive a technical victory.

About the match itself:

Vegito [0:1] FawFuL (Security Breach v2 - Vegito's choice)
Vegito [0:1] FawFuL (City of the Sn00zE - FawFuL's choice)

The matches were as close as they could be. Both played very carefully and passively, FawFuL perhaps a bit more passively even. That way the results were typical soccer result-like. The score in the first round happened at around 8th minute, but the only score in the 2nd round came during overtime (3rd minute.) This just shows to me how I should change the mappool next time maybe.

Vegito
Feb 3, 2010, 12:55 PM
Does this mean we can't choose the levels we choose now? =D. I hope.
Some of the levels added are just so extremely defensive biased it is barely fun to play. I didn't consider these duels fun because I felt I was the one who had to go offensive all the time.

FawFul
Feb 3, 2010, 01:03 PM
well i do feel kinda sorry the most and taking the pressure on my shoulders is quite obvious now. i think that it's kinda 80% my fault of it, or atleast, that's how i see it. my argument wasn't the best at all, and i would probably slaphead whenever i am full of energy again. But on a moment like that you are being in such a trance not coming out, being so tiresome hardly makes me being able to chose either what's good or not because you are only thinking of that atm, which is that i am totally tiresome mentally. from my view, saying stuff like this at 9 o'clock and kinda give me the feeling i am forced to play in a state i can hardly play and concentrate in. and when you're also striking back directly, because i did something wrong with the delaying stuff together with warrior, Doesn't have much to do with each other imo. after all IT does but not from what i could have known, atleast.

but yet i am sorry the whole communcation crushed because of my bad habits of discipline.

@veg, i also took your usual C area camp spot from the last (final Winner bracket) time in sbv2, veg :---)

Grytolle
Feb 4, 2010, 02:32 AM
Let's focus on the positives, guys! Your duel provided irrefutable proof of how boring duelling is (y)

Shelly
Feb 4, 2010, 04:34 AM
How do i sign up

DanZeal
Feb 4, 2010, 04:46 AM
You will have to wait for the next tournament.

FawFul
Feb 4, 2010, 07:30 AM
don't worry gry, i won't forget how much teamplaying kicks (-)(-)(-) (y). our 2v2's (y). perhaps come back and play more often :(?

Enigma
Feb 4, 2010, 07:57 AM
Let's focus on the positives, guys! Your duel provided irrefutable proof of how boring duelling is (y)

Actually, I think it was boring mostly because they chose levels which can take ages for duels. Might want to consider something smaller and faster-paced next time if you didn't enjoy this ;)

Superjazz
Mar 14, 2010, 01:34 AM
Taken from JJnet News:

The JJNet Duel Tournament v1.0 was finished only a moment ago, as the very last duel of the tournament was played.

I have to admit it was a very exciting and close game, definitely worth the title of the Grand Final. The match could have gone either way, however Vegito took a 2-0 victory by winning 2 rounds with results 2-1, and 2-1.

This means the tournament results are now:

Winner: Vegito http://www.jazzjackrabbit.net/_country/32.gif
Second: FawFuL http://www.jazzjackrabbit.net/_country/32.gif
Third: Warrior http://www.jazzjackrabbit.net/_country/36.gif

So, congratulations for the top three. If you want to receive your prizes, contact DanZeal http://www.jazzjackrabbit.net/_country/43.gif.

I am glad the tournament is finally over, since it took an exceptionally long time to finish (not a record though.) The tournament began in September 2009, and lasted about 6 months, although it was supposed to end before the year 2010 already. It didn't happen. This edition was still a bit of an experiment, as it was the first edition, but after all it seemed to work very well in overall.

The tournament popularity was something that surprised me. The 32 spots filled up by sign ups in under 24 hours, which is amazing. Due to this, I'm planning to organize an even bigger tournament next time. You may expect a Duel Tournament v2.0 to begin in next August/September. I'm expecting next JDC season to be running next Summer as well, so we might probably start it during it, or a bit after. Expect some changes, like the mappool obviously.

Also, here's a brief match report about the Final Duel of the Tournament:

Round 1: FawFuL picked TCS as his map, since both players were allowed to pick anything from the mappool again(except VETOes of course.) Vegito picked Red Team. This round was slightly less exciting probably because of very careful play. However after approx. 2 minutes of playing, FawFuL roasts Vegito, and makes the first score. He holds his only score until the very last minute of the main timelimit, until Vegito roasts him, and ties the game up. Overtime awaits, and it lasts for about 2 minutes, until Vegito scores again and wins the round.

Round 2: Vegito picked BBSwing. FawFuL picked Red Team. This round was a real thriller. Vegito scored already in the first minute, and anything could have happened after that. FawFuL managed to keep Vegito on low score and often on low health as well. Vegito pretty much lost the control, once Faw scored after Vegito's 3hk around halfway. After that, there were a lot of close situations where the match could have ended, especially during overtime, which came in again. They even managed to double kill each other. However, after about 3 minutes of overtime, Vegito finishes the round, and the whole tournament.

You can look at the match details here (http://www.jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?op=toernooi).



Actually, I think it was boring mostly because they chose levels which can take ages for duels. Might want to consider something smaller and faster-paced next time if you didn't enjoy this ;)

Your comment has been noticed. A part of the levels here weren't that much duel-suitable after all. The next mappool is being planned already, and will consist of different and smaller maps. Only two maps from the previous pool will follow to the second tournament, the rest is all going to change.

Vegito
Mar 14, 2010, 07:27 AM
I guess both I and Faw didn't want a duel like last time either and therefore chose better levels to duel in ;-). It worked well, just a bit laggy sadly. Thanks though.

DanZeal
Mar 14, 2010, 02:28 PM
Watch the duel in BBswing here (http://jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?op=newjj2tv&doeget=5&id=22).

spaceboy
Mar 14, 2010, 09:22 PM
Congrats Veg, and I'd like to suggest longer individual matches for DT2 (quick ones don't always reflect who's actually better, and are often random and based on luck and such..).

Raven aka StL
Mar 14, 2010, 11:27 PM
Remember not to include campy-as-hell levels like SBv2 in duel tournaments again.
You also don't want to include levels with lots of carrots like CotS, because in duels it's easy to stay back and recover all the time.

Superjazz
Mar 15, 2010, 07:44 AM
Congrats Veg, and I'd like to suggest longer individual matches for DT2 (quick ones don't always reflect who's actually better, and are often random and based on luck and such..).

The reason why the timelimit was only 10 minutes, was because the duels were much easier to arrange that way. Players would surely have at least 20 minutes of free-time to play on each stage, who were more busy with studying, etc.

However, I still get your point. I will be probably increasing the timelimits a bit for the future tournament partly. This depends on the tournament-size and stuff.

Remember not to include campy-as-hell levels like SBv2 in duel tournaments again.
You also don't want to include levels with lots of carrots like CotS, because in duels it's easy to stay back and recover all the time.

I got criticized about this already. As well, I am now sure about which levels now fit into the concept better from that mappool. As I said, I will pick only a pair of the smaller maps for the next mappool, and CotS/SBv2/similar levels are out for sure.