Kenny the semi pwner?

[Skele!]

...well I dueled him in semi quite some times I lost...some other good players dueled him there (BlueSpaz,R3p,Faw,...)all lost and I'm just wondering what you guys think,could you try a duel vs. him or if you already did just say if he is very good or not... Thank you.

[Lithium]

Well,I did duel him a lot of times,and he is really good. Even the first time I dueled him he was good enough (though I sucked). The problem is,now when the community says he rules,he goes around,asks people for duel and telling them they're scared if they do not want to play,and he randomly insults people in servers saying "he's better than everyone in the server and because of that he can say whatever he wants about them".

[Ester]

Kenny IS very good at semi.
I heard he can beat Faw there too, which is not a thing that most people can.
However, sometimes he acts like a noob, but still I think he is very good.

[Speeza]

Well,I did duel him a lot of times,and he is really good. Even the first time I dueled him he was good enough (though I sucked). The problem is,now when the community says he rules,he goes around,asks people for duel and telling them they're scared if they do not want to play,and he randomly insults people in servers saying "he's better than everyone in the server and because of that he can say whatever he wants about them".

This case has happened to a lot of members, the best thing to do is just say "yeah I'm scared". and just agree with whatever he says. That way your rising above it. If you really don't want to agree with him , then just ignore him altogether and don't respond.

[Troglobite]

I believe I was his first duel opponent ever, and even then, he gave me quite a run for my money. Now that he's practiced, he's far better than I've ever been, although I'm sure there are quite a few players who fall into that category.

[Riper]

Well he is good there. I won him sometimes 5-4 and 5-1 but he is maybe better than me now ;). I agree that he is acting childish with the stuff " I AM BEST NO-ONE CAN BEAT ME!!" there is always a person who can win him no problem,and I agree with Speeza. :D

[KiMO]

It's true he's got some skills, but that doesn't have to make him behave so bossy.

[PurpleJazz]

There have always been players throughout JJ2's history that have been considered unbeatable - or at least extremely tough. For example, 4-5 years ago Yasco was known as an absolute destroyer in semi, winning nearly 100% of duels there. However, all it takes is for one player to raise the bar in playing standards to knock these players from their thrones. If you really want to see Kenny get beaten, go practice!

[Raven aka StL]

a) I'm 2-0 against him in semi.
b) Most of his success is based on lagging his opponents. One could write an article about all the different lag-based advantages he tends to have.

[Skele!]

I dueled him today,he lost 5-4 but it should of been 5-2,he just put his score higher because "he did -1 two times" :p.

[Grytolle]

Well electroblaster master Lori Spek remains safely on his throne...

[Vegito]

I still did beat him .. 3-1 5-0 5-1 or something just a few weeks back. It'll take him a lot of patience for him to be able to beat players that use his weakness ;-)

I'd say you shouldn't get taken into his playing style cause otherwise you're probably toast yes. He mastered that pretty damn well.

Anyway, in those years you're talking about it first was Squirrel, then me, then yasco, then sucer, then SJ... each of us probably being unbeatable in Semi for about a year or so.
Kenny is probably the strongest player in Semi now although he's got big weaknesses which I could easily exploit. He'll have to learn a lot to become really unbeatable there still. Just play extremely defensive against him I'd say.... :p

[Toni]

This case has happened to a lot of members, the best thing to do is just say "yeah I'm scared". and just agree with whatever he says. That way your rising above it. If you really don't want to agree with him , then just ignore him altogether and don't respond.

This absolutely doesn't work in this case with him :( ... Tried about 1337 times.

But I don't think he is the best in semi. At least I can beat him :p . We played once in ZD when server was empty (only we two), and he asked me to play, I didn't want, he kept asking and acting like child (look posts above). I told "you're better than me" but he kept acting and trying to find some way to get me in that game. I finally accepted. It was 1-0 for me. Someone joined (can't remember who, it was one month ago). I scored and it was 2-0 for me. Oh, that joiner was from Romania, as kenny is, and they chatted. He did /stop /redscore 1. I was red. I asked why, and he told that it was a 'chatkill' . I agreed because it was a normal game. Oh after that kill, he had 3h and we both recaptured the flags. But when I killed him, he was low. But w/e he is not as smart as we all think, so he can't see that he was low (or he does but don't want to tell :O ... ). I scored once again, but again he did -1 to me. That was so lame... You know what? I got angry and raised my points to 3 and told him 'don't lower my score with 'chatkill' reason. Do not chat' and we kept changing my score. After 10 minutes it was 2-0 for me (we made a deal). He scored, so 2-1. I scored. 3-1. He was soooo frustrated because he is losing, so he did /k 3 (it was me) about 15 times, and did /maxscore 6 ; /bluescore 5 ; /maxscore 5 ... That's how he wins almost every game there :p (and on some other levels.. I won't talk about them, this is not topic about that).

People, don't think that he is better than Faw. Yes, Kenny maybe won against Faw, but he is not that good as you think. He plays for stats. I have an expirience in CC with him, where we played only 2 games together in team. When I am low with the flag, he takes my carrots ^^ . He was hungry, you can't do nothing about that. He wants his stats big. Don't think 'Oh my dear God. I heard he is better than Faw. KENNY IS DA BEST" (I heard that by some guys :| ... it was lame )

now negrep me because I am telling the truth, and my english sux, yay! (huh, chillhax is soooo.... yay)

[Nerd]

so he can't see that he was low

This is called a 3HK. I think I already have explained how those occur, but I'm not sure if you understood...

[spaceboy]

A thread about SB the bblair pwner would've been better.. :+

[Grytolle]

SpyBunny?

[FireSworD]

There have always been players throughout JJ2's history that have been considered unbeatable - or at least extremely tough. For example, 4-5 years ago Yasco was known as an absolute destroyer in semi, winning nearly 100% of duels there. However, all it takes is for one player to raise the bar in playing standards to knock these players from their thrones. If you really want to see Kenny get beaten, go practice!

I totally agree with this. I haven't been too active in dueling or generally playing lately. This will come off rather harsh, but players who don't duel much or haven't achieved very much when it comes to playing shouldn't post, because their comments are often very annoying, inaccurate and based off silly logic.

[EvilMike]

I am actually the best player in the world at semi. this can be confirmed by several people, who prefer to remain anonymous out of shame of being owned so hard. also I wont name them because it would be shaming them and pros dont shame people. also dont accuse me of bad logic because I have studied formal logic and am somewhat of an expert at it. that makes me an expert in two things actually, semi and logic. this has been an evilmike post™.

[Raven aka StL]

Beating faw in semi wasn't much of an achievement the last time I checked.
And if sucer's ever been 'unbeatable' in semi, then I've probably been a semi-god on several occasions. :D

[spaceboy]

Mike just pwned the thread.

Also, I was the one who beat Yasco many times in Semi back when he was considered unbeatable there. Usually it just takes a few tries to learn a player's tactics and then you could defeat him easily in any level.

I totally agree with this. I haven't been too active in dueling or generally playing lately. This will come off rather harsh, but players who don't duel much or haven't achieved very much when it comes to playing shouldn't post, because their comments are often very annoying, inaccurate and based off silly logic.
In all my years of Jazz'ing, I've never met an "unbeatable" player. And I don't mean just one loss here or there cuz that's just a fluke and happens to everyone; I've never felt that a certain player was truly superior to ANYONE else in his skills. Of course that if you stick to a certain level, you'd get better in it but that's just a temporary thing and being good only in 1 level makes you look like a joke.

Not to mention that I was gonna defeat Kenny the last time we dueled in Semi (then he quit, cuz of bizzare praises such as yours) and in other levels he wasn't even half as good, honestly.

Being good in Semi is not impressive. It takes a much harder level like BBLAIR or Battle1 to convince me.

Like I said some posts ago, FS and SJ are the only players who have ever impressed me with their skills and being really challenging in various levels of different playing styles.

Aight, that was a long and tiring rant about how much more awesome I am than anyone else in duels.

[Vegito]

Beating faw in semi wasn't much of an achievement the last time I checked.
And if sucer's ever been 'unbeatable' in semi, then I've probably been a semi-god on several occasions. :D

And you fall in this category anyway:

This will come off rather harsh, but players who don't duel much or haven't achieved very much when it comes to playing shouldn't post, because their comments are often very annoying, inaccurate and based off silly logic.

Just so you know.

Beating Faw in Semi isn't that hard probably because he hates Semi and therefore generally doesn't try that much. He's simply never motivated to play duels in the first place :+

[spaceboy]

Emp often talks from his butt, but never fails to entertain me.

[Raven aka StL]

And you fall in this category anyway:

No, I certainly don't.

[spaceboy]

There are a lot of new strong players right now, not just one.. PJ, JJBynny, Warrior, Riper, Skele, Kenny, Mati, to name a few..

[FawFul]

Bump. What veg says is kind of true, although i don't really hate it. It's not how i trained massively on semi like others did. I'll put it simply here: I think I can say without hesitate that i know how the game should be played. Although i totally have no map knowledge in semi, while that has been taken to a extreme level compared to other maps. I am sure that there are guys that can pwn me with massive semi training and skill. While half of these guys don't understand the games logic at all. It's the combination of me lack of motivation and the others being extremely good at single trained maps. For example, BBswing is a typical training level aswell and many people mastered it. But i payed more attention to BBswing than for Semi during my "duel carreer" already, And i notice i have more chance against players there already :).


Note: Kenny's behaviour around that time wasn't really helpfull during the duel. Maybe would have gone better if i simply couldn't care at all, but i guess we'll never know :). I think his win was deserved there.

Maybe because of the ridicilous overhyped level and how many got good there I feel no interest as for wasting my time jumping into the "Stealth-practise" like many people. I'm happy enough what i achieved already in a level i can't care a lot about :).

[spaceboy]

You're still quite new..

[FawFul]

You're still quite new..

..Where is the clue?

[Treylina]

Hmm...*goes a tad bit off topic*

Well, I've never really had the patience to duel all day on one map all the time. I kind of think it's more impressive if someone can be good at a handful of maps at once rather than just one overplayed map. Some things I've realised that no matter what, there will always be some kind of luck in JJ2, as well as packet loss. And those unpredictable bouncies. Also, playing styles may have some kind of weakness, sometimes training isn't always the case and you should try to "study" the opponent (I honestly don't know what other way to put it). And don't forget the strategies. I've tried to adapt against other playing styles lately. And no, I don't think I'm an amazing player. I think it's best to practice all kinds of maps.

Actually...what is the point of this post?

[spaceboy]

^all very true.

[Jgke]

^I agree.

[Enigma]

Some things I've realised that no matter what, there will always be some kind of luck in JJ2, with spawn times, and packet loss.

I think there are actually some people crazy enough to constantly keep tabs on the spawn times of the powerups and carrots in a level during a duel. They tend to be kind of scary ;-;

[FawFul]

I do that aswell.. But as intuition (or whatever it's spelled)

[Grytolle]

I think there are actually some people crazy enough to constantly keep tabs on the spawn times of the powerups and carrots in a level during a duel. They tend to be kind of scary ;-;
It's the only thing I do well in duels.

[Torkell]

I think there are actually some people crazy enough to constantly keep tabs on the spawn times of the powerups and carrots in a level during a duel. They tend to be kind of scary ;-;
Yup, these people exist. One guy I play UT with has memorised the respawn times of all the powerups, and has worked out routes through the levels such that he'll get to the powerup just as it respawns.

[Vegito]

I do that too. It also makes me know when the C simply doesnt spawn anymore due to lag ;-)

[Grytolle]

Yup, these people exist. One guy I play UT with has memorised the respawn times of all the powerups, and has worked out routes through the levels such that he'll get to the powerup just as it respawns.

a lot of lvls have the same spawn time for all PUs, so its easy to just run around and take them all the time

[FireSworD]

It's actually not hard to time pus and c's in duels since all you need is a rough estimate. Heck, with practice you can just sense when they will spawn. In fact, I used to do it myself.

[Treylina]

My bad, I thought spawn times were random within the number (for example if it had a 30 second delay I thought it would mean it would spawn randomly within the amount of seconds, where I got that idea was because of the "lucky spawns"). Oh well, the more you know.

[cooba]

Yup, these people exist. One guy I play UT with has memorised the respawn times of all the powerups, and has worked out routes through the levels such that he'll get to the powerup just as it respawns.What amazes me is that those people consider themselves as "pros" and "skilled".

An ant can work out and memorise a route and pass it in a given time, too, and I don't often see any ants with ego issues going around and bragging about their <em>cyber athletic super prowess</em>

[Stijn]

I suppose it's part of being pro though. Just memorizing times isn't enough to MeSs WiTh ThE bEsT but it surely helps if you can grab that powerup before the other gets to it because you know when it spawns.

[Vegito]

My bad, I thought spawn times were random within the number (for example if it had a 30 second delay I thought it would mean it would spawn randomly within the amount of seconds, where I got that idea was because of the "lucky spawns"). Oh well, the more you know.

Lucky spawns are usually with players that DONT count...
Players that count (or estimate), time those lucky spawns generally }>

[Treylina]

Lucky spawns are usually with players that DONT count...
Players that count (or estimate), time those lucky spawns generally }>

Whenever I try to count the spawn times...I lose control of the level (or the enemy to be more specific if they have 3h). But yeah, I knew that by the time after a while I posted that.

[Vegito]

Yes. Its easy to notice if you play against someone that doesn't time power ups/carrots at all..