The Official JJ2WC III Thread

[spaceboy]

The matches will start next weekend. The big update will come up tomorrow so hold yrselves still as much as you can!

GROUP 1

[CDF]
[GpW]
CC
id)
NF

GROUP 2

-t3>
[VS]
Cpt.
RL

For roster changes, send an email to - jj2wc3(a)gmail.com

[SlaYerRL]

Nice group for RL if you ask me.

[spaceboy]

No clan's life are going to be easy this season, clearly. :p

P.S. 7 different threads about JJ2WC III since the announcement. May an admin lock the others now and only keep this one open for discussion?

[[GpW]Urbs]

Welll fuck it, no way to make it completely fair.

Hopefully we go on. Still the most likely opponents are either t3 or RL so even should we go on, we're friggin toast.

One fun tournament:)

[spaceboy]

http://www.jazz2online.com/jj2wc

I'm not going to struggle and keep both places updated, so you better start checking the webpage for updates from now on.

[Toni]

how you made the groups? It would be better if you made 3 groups with 3 teams, and 1st in each group go to the next stage. Second teams in groups will make another group and play each vs other, or, the best second team goes to the semifinals with 1st teams. Also, who will go to the next round? :p

[Vegito]

Match Week #1 - Posted on November 27th, 2010

1. [GpW] vs. NF - Thursday, December 2nd 19:00 CET (Referee: Vivando)
2. [CDF] vs. CC - Friday, December 3rd 19:00 CET (Referee: Warrior)
3. Cpt. vs. -t3> - Saturday, December 4th 17:00 CET (Referee: Grytolle)
4. [VS] vs. RL - Saturday, December 4th 19:00 CET (Referee: spaceboy)

"gl to u all!1"
- spaceboy comments (0)

[[GpW]Urbs]

indeed getting forfeit win:(?

[spaceboy]

No, they'll have to wait till match week #2 to play.

[Enigma]

how you made the groups? It would be better if you made 3 groups with 3 teams, and 1st in each group go to the next stage. Second teams in groups will make another group and play each vs other, or, the best second team goes to the semifinals with 1st teams. Also, who will go to the next round? :p

If I understand it correctly, the first two of each group will go on to the semifinals. The current format looks ok to me though, each clan is guaranteed three or four games this way, makes the whole thing more fun. Sure, there will be a bit more competition for the top spots in group 1, but I don't think it's such a big deal.

[Toni]

Suggestion:

How about calculating ClanWars in this tournament for JJ.net, too? Please answer me and tell me why it shouldn't? It'll make JJ.net active (in CWs). Maybe calculate them with different rules because some clans are inactive at JJ.net. For example, for every win here, a clan will get 5 points, and for every lost game, -2 points.

[FawFul]

I don't have r3p on msn or anything, but I can't play at friday that time. Any chance CC can schedule the match?

[[GpW]Urbs]

you basically dont need to tell rep. Make arrangements with the other clan and with the ref. Imo rep wouldnt even mind if the referees would get changed if one of them wouldnt have time at a certain time and date that the clans arranged.

BTW NF please contact me, GpW would like to play half an hour later on thursday... And is thursday even ok with you guys?

[Vegito]

We can play anyway, doesn't matter np things will be fine lets play at that time gg thx ;-)

[Nerd]

Could we reschedule our match against GpW to the next week? I've been busy for the last two weeks, but most likely could play then.

Edit: Match rescheduled to Wednesday, December 1st, 19:30 GMT + 1.

Edit2: Date fixed, I was a bit lost.

[Toni]

31st of November? Does that day exist? :D

[Foly]

You might want to change it to 1 December, because it'll be a long time until 31 November :)

[[GpW]Urbs]

It's official folks, first game of the tournament one day ahead of schedule.

NF vs [GpW] - Wednesday, December 1st 19:30 CET (Referee: Vivando aka Superjazz)


We will also be getting a live stream on jjnet so I hope you'll tune in tommorow 19:30 CET - stream courtesy of VegitoCC.

I personally hope the game won't be all that interesting and quite frankly I wouldn't mind it one bit if the whole thing turned out to be a one sided affair where the red-and-blacks run rampant.
But I'm sure that won't be the case.

Grab your dips and grab your chips my friends JJ2 is on TV!!!
I'd also like to direct everybody to www.jazz2online.com/jj2wc for all further news and developments asociated with JJ2WC 3 (including possible streams).

Let there be bread and games and let there be joy, laughter, caps and slaughter. Come one, come all! Se the gladiators fight it out in the arena.

Ladies, do you like their chizzled bodies? How about those furs ey? And look at those beautiful colours.

And look, there the VIP stand - it is Caesar.

We who are about to be roasted salute you!

[Vegito]

I'll keep this thread up to date too anyway. Its useful to keep things up to date.

And yes, I should be able to stream this match without much lag if any. I'll set up my computer in the Netherlands for it. Noone will touch it anyway }>

[Jgke]

Erm, we don't have a referee.

[Vegito]

You had 2 referees, even :+

[Vegito]

Should perhaps write reports over the matches played. I have no clue what happened at VS Vs RL for example.

[Stijn]

VS got bulldozered

[[GpW]Urbs]

Well I wrote one semi-report on jj2wc page for the NF game.
If I have time I can write up reports for more games in next rounds. IMO up to the ref's as well.

[Vegito]

I sorta refer to the refs to write a small report indeed }>

[[GpW]Urbs]

GR writes on j2o, maybe he could be 2nd ref on a game or 2, there just for the sake of writting something up post-game.

OFC I came up with that without asking him whether he would even consider doing that and/or has the time to do it:)

Cuz atm sj, gry and warrior have been used in both rounds and if the trend continues it sort of doesnt seem fair that they would have to be the ones typing up reports week after week. Gry for example has exams this month and I'm sure the rest are busy as well (participating as players and not only as ref's).

[Vegito]

I keep my shifts early only for the sake of JJ2WC... So I hope I do get to do something again :p lmao.

[[GpW]Urbs]

Well if t3 and VS play their match as per spaceboy's will, then CDF vs GpW will need a new referee on Saturday 19 30 CET.

I did understand you correctly right, you were complaining about not "being used", right?:)

[Vegito]

Just saying I am free. I'm used as a streamer :p

[SlaYerRL]

Should perhaps write reports over the matches played. I have no clue what happened at VS Vs RL for example.

I agree, not even mention at jjnet, but beating clan like Cpt. has to be called impressive win.

[[GpW]Urbs]

Well I didn't see the game and I could only type second hand stuff. I do agree reports would be helpful..

So what, shall we delegate it to the ref in charge of the game? And if he can't write it up he should get some1 to spectate and then write a quick report?

I'm kinda busy atm, but I suppose one report per week is possible...

ATM as far as I know only me and space have news accounts on jj2wc, maybe we should ask space to give it to a couple more people who would be in charge of posting.

But if you have a decen report, send it to me and I can put it up.

[master sven]

So what, shall we delegate it to the ref in charge of the game? And if he can't write it up he should get some1 to spectate and then write a quick report?



Please let that person watch on JJ2TV, the server is awfully full already.

[[GpW]Urbs]

Ya or that. The rules do state there should be no other specs than the ref...

But sometimes 2 matches might go on simultaneously and onlyy one will get streamed.

[Lithium]

And here we go again. Not like one spectator will cause massive lags...and not everyone can watch it on JJ2TV,sometimes the quality isn't that good so you can't even see who scored and when,and there are other problems too...

[Lithium]

And for some unknown reason,my computer crashed while I was watching the two last broadcasts.

[Vegito]

Err, if you watch the live matches it should be good enough quality. Good enough for players to see everything. Heck, I know it because I have 2 computers running when streaming.. One that streams, the other I check the result of the stream on ;-).

The 'JJ2TV' is far worse quality though, I noticed that too. I don't experience any crashes though.

[[GpW]Urbs]

IMO the best way to get reports is to send some1 who is willing to type them, to spectate the match. Or make sure the ref's get enough rotatition so it isn't always the same ref's that end up writting reports.

Unless they don't mind in which case, do go on and write a little somehting about each match.

[Vegito]

As was once said 5.5 years ago, the imperial march has begun again. Thanks NF for playing. It was a great match from our side and the first time we showed CCs real face this tournament ;-).

[[GpW]Urbs]

Well hell boy, guess it's time for the Guru's to blow up the death star then!

[cooba]

CCs real face<img src="http://www.jazz2online.com/pictures/1613/pushing-envelope-don-juan-reverse-style/doubling%20it.png" />

[Toni]

OWN'D

[Vegito]

Thats our true legend (Y)

[Chiyu]

Hehe, like Veg said, we played very well :D.

For those who are interested, here are screenshots and comments on CC vs CDF and CC vs NF:

http://www.craccoclan.com/divisions/platform/jj2/CW47.html
http://www.craccoclan.com/divisions/platform/jj2/CW48.html

[[GpW]Urbs]

GpW skuked, but somehow, don't ask me how, we managed to pull one over cdf:)
20 something to 6 if memory serves.

EDIT: Humility is in our nature:)

[Vegito]

Strange..?

e-kills are kills made after which a teammate scores. You kill the enemy flagcarrier and we score right after. Important kills.

[Chiyu]

I don't notice anything strange either, what do you mean? And as Veg said, we refer to e-kills as the critical flag carrier kills in a game on which one of our teammates scores :).

[[GpW]Urbs]

The infamous e-kills, in most other games (such as first person shooters a la www.quakelive.com , which is free and it roxx btw) they would be called assists. It means the killing of the enemy at the crucial time when your team mate is near the base and can score.
In quakelive you get 75 points for it, if I'm not mistaken, as opposed to 100 points on you get for a cap.
I can see how you would value each cap a tad bit more, but having said that, the timing of the kill, especially on jj2, is crucial, so I can see why CC-ers mention it in their reports, because it is pretty darn important.

Speaking of which, any1 got logs from yesterdays CDF vs GpW game? I wanna see my e-kills and scores:)

EDIT: I noticed the "wrong" anomaly - the 8-D game.

[Superjazz]

I was under the impression that means electronic kills or something :)

electronic style kills lol

Watch out, you're being influenced by the spirit of the shane! :D

[Vegito]

Urbs, I'll count them out for you. (Although I dont wanna make that a habbit)

Zaitox:

Kenny 8
Max 2
MS 1
Kev 1
Urbs 3

(Kenny had several solos due to bad Rs/movements from CDF)

Compare it with the rest of the stats, Kenny 5 scores, Snooze 4 scores, Urbs 2 scores..

Kenny was involved with 13 scores, Snooze with 4, Urbs with 5. It does show who the one player is in that game. Calculating Marsh now.

Urbs 3
Kenny 6
Snz 3
Kev 1
King 1

Again Kenny killed the most (50% of the teams scores) BUT this time it was less about Kenny.

The scores (Snz 6, Kenny 3, Urbs 3) make it even.
Kenny was involved with 9 scores, Snz was involved with 9 scores and Urbs with 6. That shows a whole lot more teamplay.

NF stands for Nameless <i>Frontline</i>, and not Frontier. Unless they've changed their name.
And thanks for explaining me what e-kills means, I was under the impression that means electronic kills or something :)

Lol, hadn't noticed

[[GpW]Urbs]

ehh uhm you don't have to do that...
thats why rep asked for that script that would make more detailed stats.
Uhm you can really just send me the logs and I can count, unless you really want to count them for me in which case thanks a bunch!:)

[Enigma]

Hehe, like Veg said, we played very well :D.

For those who are interested, here are screenshots and comments on CC vs CDF and CC vs NF:

http://www.craccoclan.com/divisions/platform/jj2/CW47.html
http://www.craccoclan.com/divisions/platform/jj2/CW48.html

Fairly accurate report, except for the minor detail that Jake, Nerd and I are the NF team, not the CDF team ;-)

[Vegito]

ROFL, its not often we make mistakes at the site but these 2 are just stupid O+

[Chiyu]

Sorry about that, Enigma. I copied the CC vs CDF page and apparently I forgot to change "CDF Team" to "NF Team".

It's all fixed now.

Similarly, the screen captures of both clanwars have also been added to our clanwar reports :). Have fun.


Edit: www.craccoclan.com/divisions/platform/jj2/CW49.html for CC vs GpW!

[Vegito]

So far for the groupstage. It was an interesting group :)

[Grytolle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pw7_sKwN7o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_au_-k-WeM

Even JCFers can appreciate such magnificent scores, I bet.

[Toni]

Nice. Both scores were good.

[Lithium]

pwnage

[[GpW]Urbs]

Yes pwnage indeed:)

[Zerg]

Where can I watch that JJ2 TV?

[spaceboy]

http://www.jazzjackrabbit.net/index.php?op=newjj2tv&doeget=4

Will be on today at 20.00 CET, hf!

[Lithium]

20:00 or 19:00???

[[GpW]Urbs]

19 00 cet I hope, else the 4 round game will really take too long.

Kenny almost had to go in the RL game already. Well CC agreed to play the remaining rounds tommorow if our warteam has to go, and I hope they won't back down from that. Although if we play at 19 00 cet im sure we can finish the game the way it was planned.

[Vegito]

19:00 it is, yes.

[spaceboy]

20:00 or 19:00???
The match of January 8th was played at 20:00. Check out the dates of posts and you won't have to make yourself confused!

[[GpW]Urbs]

Well, we gave it our all and we lost 5-3, winning one round (dw) and getting a tie in the other. Zaitox, once our best map proved to be quite challenging as that was the only map where CC had a very clear advantage. Weird, I used to love it, but I guess it is now grytolle's domain:)

GJ guru's!

Xere, Kryt, Skele, Spaceboy(now BRFH), Kenny and Snooze!

Thanks to GR and Speeza for the trainings (which were lacking latelys:(, hence the zaitox result).

Thanks to shadow and all the oldies for their support.

This was an incredibly close matchup. NA round went 1-1, which is almost like professional football matches:)

The best games of the tournament were played in the finals.

[Lithium]

And me? :(

Good job everyone. Everyone played well,but CC was better on Zaitox...

gg,at least we got the 2nd place!

[Grytolle]

Scariest game in years! I'm extremely impressed by GpW everywhere but on Zaitox

[spaceboy]

(now it's time to rep me like hell for making JJ2WC :D)

[Grytolle]

repped ya rep!

rep me 2, im world champ!

[Vegito]

Definitely the closest games in the finals of this tournament. Gj at that one. 5-4, 2-5, 1-1 were the round scores at DW, JE and NA.
We kind of knew we'd win JE although you played pretty defensive making it hard for us to score. In NA we were doing the exact opposite. You scored 1-0 because of a double defense (and Gry got hit, somehow?). We relatively quickly scored 1-1, after which we took 0 risks anymore. All we did was continue keeping control of 'your' base to make sure you'd not score anymore. In the end it worked :).

[[GpW]Urbs]

Edit: Lithium I'm sorry. I wrote the post rather quickly:)

You're mentioned in the comments on j2o news section though!:)

[[GpW]Urbs]

Well kenny teh noob(j/k) didn't know that a tie doesnt mean overtime, so i was the only one who really went rts in the last 5 min. And yes, very likely with your massive pwn at our base, not much would have changed, but still, shame, a nother round would have pwnt:)

Still like I said, awesome games. Awesome opponents. AWESOME team mates!

[Lithium]

Heh. Nice one Urbs :D

[Vegito]

Definitely a worthy final :D

Also, we should keep the clan scene active like this... It's nice to have clanwars every now and then, and all of them haev been friendly O+

[[GpW]Urbs]

Well we're not gunning after CC atm.
We might be going for some other clans though:)

Oh and, I don't really care, if people like their ladder points so much it can be non-ladder. NP with us.

Still give us some time to get a new warteam in shape. I am officially out, as I'm sure GpW's young players can do better than me if given a chance. Investing in youth:)

[Vegito]

I've got to agree! I loved this JJ2WC a lot, except I would have preferred playing the SF and F fastar...
Clanwars are a lot of fun }>

[Chiyu]

I have nothing more to add to what Vegito said, basically. I too, really loved this season and all the clanwars. An active clan scene is definitely a big plus. In fact, this actually made me start playing JJ2 actively again :).

[[GpW]Urbs]

Well we'll try Chiyu. I'm afraid, however, that a lot of clans don't really feel like meeting our two teams (gry told me how hard it is for your alpha to find somebody to ladder with). and the ladder system basically only forces the 1st clan to accept clanwars.

Although like I've said, we can do non ladder clanwars for all I care.

[spaceboy]

repped ya rep!

rep me 2, im world champ!
I wish I could :(

[Vegito]

R3pped R3p up!

Urbs;466338']Well we'll try Chiyu. I'm afraid, however, that a lot of clans don't really feel like meeting our two teams (gry told me how hard it is for your alpha to find somebody to ladder with). and the ladder system basically only forces the 1st clan to accept clanwars.

Although like I've said, we can do non ladder clanwars for all I care.

Yeah, any team would basically auto disagree at 3 alpha's...

[Sasik]

Yeah, any team would basically auto disagree at 3 alpha's...
VS wouldn't }> We must play, if I have more time :)