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Torkell
December 6th, 2010, 12:46 PM
For those who don't know, Zendo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zendo_(game)) is a game of inductive logic. In Zendo, one player ("Master") creates a rule for structures ("koans") to follow. A structure is said to have the Buddha nature if and only if it follows this rule. The other players ("students") take it in turn to try and work out the rule by building koans and asking the master if they have the Buddha nature. This is normally played with physical pieces, but there's a variant played online using emoticons (here's a sample game (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/332667/emoticon-zendo-game-22)).

Emoticon Zendo Rules (this is based on the BoardGameGeek (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/Emoticon_Zendo) ruleset):
-There is no "Mondo" -- there is only "Master" and guessing
-There are no turns, but please wait a bit between posts to let others have a go.
-The null koan is allowed in Emoticon Zendo. Use the word "null" to indicate a koan with no emoticons.
-All guesses must be spoilered (using [ spoiler ] ... [ /spoiler ] or [ lightspoiler] ... [ /lightspoiler ] tags)
-The winner gets to set the next challenge

Emoticon Zendo Conventions:
-Koans are built from a single line of emoticons. No letters/numbers/etc.
-The 2nd emoticon from the left is in 'position #2', etc.
-The master must obey the Spock rule (http://www.icehousegames.org/wiki/index.php?title=Spock_rule) (i.e. the rule can't depend on things like who made the koan).

Starting koans

The following koan has the Buddha nature:

The following koan does not have the Buddha nature:

Congratulations to n0, who achieved enlightenment.
The rule was a koan has the Buddha nature if and only if the koan contains emoticons of differing heights.

Troglobite
December 6th, 2010, 05:28 PM
:crimi::crimi::crimi::crimi:

n0
December 6th, 2010, 07:00 PM
:robo::gabber:*EVIL*:massiv:

Jake
December 6th, 2010, 08:08 PM

Kaz
December 6th, 2010, 09:03 PM
:gabber: :massiv: :gabber: :massiv:

The spoiler tag doesn't seem to work.

IconGuy
December 7th, 2010, 12:50 AM
:rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow: :robo:

Toni
December 7th, 2010, 06:10 AM
*hypno* :fm: :drugs: :7

Sir Ementaler
December 7th, 2010, 08:23 AM

Torkell
December 7th, 2010, 09:21 AM
Has the Buddha-nature:
:robo::gabber:*EVIL*:massiv:
:gabber: :massiv: :gabber: :massiv:
:rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow: :robo:
*hypno* :fm: :drugs: :7

Does not have the Buddha-nature:
:crimi::crimi::crimi::crimi:

Kaz: the spoiler tag does work. Use it like this.

Jake
December 7th, 2010, 09:29 AM
:D:-)

Sir Ementaler
December 7th, 2010, 09:58 AM
Maybe I'm trying a bit too fast, but...
A koan has the Buddha-nature if and only if it contains an even number of different emoticons.

Torkell
December 7th, 2010, 12:57 PM
This koan does not have the Buddha nature:
:D:-)

Maybe I'm trying a bit too fast, but...
A koan has the Buddha-nature if and only if it contains an even number of different emoticons.
This koan follows your rule and yet does not have the Buddha nature:
:-):eek:

Troglobite
December 7th, 2010, 01:21 PM

n0
December 7th, 2010, 06:42 PM
I think I have it, let me try a couple more real quick...

If I'm right, these have the buddha nature::

:Z:lol::fm:*hypno*

^D:crimi::r

:+O+(y):robo:

And these wouldn't have the buddha nature:

:devan::derby::devan::derby:

:p:cool::rolleyes::)

*EVIL*

-=edit=-
Oh, and just cause I'm curious...

"null"

Sir Ementaler
December 8th, 2010, 04:03 AM
:god:

Toni
December 8th, 2010, 04:56 AM
:):):):)

Torkell
December 8th, 2010, 09:30 AM
The following koans have the Buddha nature:
:Z:lol::fm:*hypno*
^D:crimi::r
:+O+(y):robo:
:devan::derby::devan::derby:

The following koans do not have the Buddha nature:
:p:cool::rolleyes::)
*EVIL*
null
:god:
:):):):)

Jake
December 8th, 2010, 09:39 AM

I wonder if I am right for this one.

Torkell
December 8th, 2010, 10:53 AM
The following koans do not have the Buddha nature:

I've just realised that I got a koan wrong in the previous post, and this one does have the Buddha nature (I'll edit the post):
:devan::derby::devan::derby:

Sir Ementaler
December 8th, 2010, 11:39 AM
Oh, I thought n0 will win now, but if he was wrong, maybe I can keep trying. This thing however is quite weird.

Torkell
December 8th, 2010, 02:08 PM
The following koans have the Buddha nature:

The following koan does not have the Buddha nature:

n0
December 8th, 2010, 03:50 PM
This was my original thought, and nothing here seems to ruin this thought: Lines that have smilies of differing sizes have the buddha nature.

Nerd
December 8th, 2010, 08:16 PM
Just in case:

:):+

Jake
December 8th, 2010, 08:28 PM
If this works, then...
:rainbow::-)

Torkell
December 9th, 2010, 11:05 AM
This was my original thought, and nothing here seems to ruin this thought: Lines that have smilies of differing sizes have the buddha nature.
You are close to grasping the Buddha nature, but have yet to achieve enlightenment. For example, the following koan follows your rule and yet does not have the Buddha nature:
:lol::Z

The following koan has the Buddha nature:
:rainbow::-)

The following koan does not have the Buddha nature:
:):+

Toni
December 9th, 2010, 11:13 AM
:r :eek: O+ :rolleyes: }> :p

n0
December 9th, 2010, 11:15 AM
So it'd just be differing in height then?

Torkell
December 9th, 2010, 11:21 AM
So it'd just be differing in height then?
You have successfully mastered the Buddha nature and have achieved enlightenment! Now go and create your own rule (in a new thread please, to avoid confusion)!

(My rule was A koan has the Buddha nature if and only if the koan contains emoticons of differing heights.)

Jake
December 9th, 2010, 11:33 AM
Fu, almost got that. I thought the same thing.

n0
December 9th, 2010, 11:34 AM