JJ2WC Nations Cup Suggestions [Archive] - JazzJackrabbit Community Forums

master sven

Jan 27, 2011, 04:52 AM

I think this one needs a longer preparation. Last nation cup there were only 8 participating countries, I think 16 would be nicer and possible. People from all kinds of nationalities need to be informed way before, so they can search and inform other people from their country.
The maximum amount of players on the roster should be quite much, it would be a good experience for all players, even if they only get to train.
It would also be nice if each country could pick 1 map for the mappool. The refs can always add more maps if they think its nessecary. The countries must be well informed that they should be picking 3v3 suitable maps though.

Thats all for now.

Zerg

Jan 27, 2011, 06:05 AM

If I'm Hungarian from Romania, with who should I play?

Toni

Jan 27, 2011, 06:08 AM

I'm pretty sure that there aren't much Hungarians in JJ2 who are active. There are more Romanians, but Reni is Hungarian from Romania. Ask her.

Is it possible to make a contest for mappool?

shaney

Jan 27, 2011, 06:23 AM

i believe a nations cup isnt gonna cut it let me post this idea of me

a 3 v 3 or 2 v 2 league cup

a league cup is something that works on a point system has no final its just pure gaming for points

in a 2 v 2 league cup u need 2 v 2 teams excisting of 3 members (like replacements if someone is un avaible) in a 3 v 3 league cup a team needs to excist of 4 to 5 members

in a league cup its about all teams having faced each other 2 matches only . (one on team 1,s level one on team 2,s level)

the point system looks easy but isnt easy

3 points for win 1 point each team for draw

if at end 2 teams have the same score the F/K ratio takes over . Flag scores and kills

and offcourse u can think awards in such a cup . its not about who eliminates the most teams cause some tems dont even got to face each other .

a league cup if there are like 16 teams in the duration will be 22 matches

if a team is disqualified for what ever the reason . the teams that still eed to face them win by forfeit and gain 3 points . the teams beated by the team will gain 1 point if they beated the team and 3 points if they didnt beat them

Ana

Jan 27, 2011, 07:39 AM

same rules as the jj2wc,it`s a 3v3 competition so it should be the same as the jj2wc. Mappool : the jj2wc one except na!!!!

[GpW]Urbs

Jan 27, 2011, 07:42 AM

I say keep NA:)

And let slovenia/croatia play together:)

rew king urbs:)

shaney

Jan 27, 2011, 07:43 AM

same rules as the jj2wc,it`s a 3v3 competition so it should be the same as the jj2wc. Mappool : the jj2wc one except na!!!!

imo,nation cups sux,especially if u don`t get on well with ur partners :P

wrong the jj2wc is a cup tournament

a league is different the rules work different . a tournament bows on who wins the final . a league is about who wis the most points

Ana

Jan 27, 2011, 07:48 AM

I didn`t know there is a diff between them.Anyway,it`s JJ2WC Nations CUP not league,so the jj2wc system would work i guess...

shaney

Jan 27, 2011, 07:53 AM

I didn`t know there is a diff between them.Anyway,it`s JJ2WC Nations CUP not league,so the jj2wc system would work i guess...

u dont know what the difference is between a league and a cup?

let me explain it in a better way whats the difference between a lets say soccer world cup . and a soccer leugue . thats a lot of difference

Ana

Jan 27, 2011, 07:58 AM

To me ,they were synonyms. :D:D

master sven

Jan 27, 2011, 08:02 AM

That you liked the way the JJ2WC went doesnt mean that the way the matches were set up was perfect. I think we should get the bad spots out, for example the 4 round matches which were way too long for most ppl in the knock out stage.
Btw in a league everyone plays against everyone and the one that won the most is then the winner. In a cup the winner is decided by the final with the best 2 teams left, a group stage could be first so that all teams at least have some matches to play.
Seeing the way ppl are debating about maps I still think that every nation should have the right to pick a map.

Ana

Jan 27, 2011, 08:05 AM

yeah,ur idea about map picking is good but what happens if 2 countries want the same map?

master sven

Jan 27, 2011, 08:17 AM

Well then its even better that that map is in the pool since two countries like it.
And the admins can still add maps if they think more are needed, bcs for example semi is excluded or 5 countries picked the same map.

Jgke

Jan 27, 2011, 08:24 AM

Also, a contest for the maps would be nice.

master sven

Jan 27, 2011, 08:25 AM

Nah then ppl will make deals about the maps like last time. (JE had 1 vote more than bblair etc..)

Seren

Jan 27, 2011, 09:09 AM

Nah then ppl will make deals about the maps like last time. (JE had 1 vote more than bblair etc..)
I guess Jake actually means something like what happened before the Duel Tournament 2. Thanks to that level contest a whole lot of great maps appeared. No problems seemed to take place (though I wasn't playing back then so may be wrong).
Making such contests too often may however eventually lower the overall quality/number of entries.

shaney

Jan 27, 2011, 10:32 AM

I guess Jake actually means something like what happened before the Duel Tournament 2. Thanks to that level contest a whole lot of great maps appeared. No problems seemed to take place (though I wasn't playing back then so may be wrong).
Making such contests too often may however eventually lower the overall quality/number of entries.

picking levels sucks . so you can make teams prepare for the levels . i am huge fan of an invisible map pool . every nation picks a number and each number is a different level in the pool .

so that on the time of the match then u see what level it is . so u see wich team is better

Vegito

Jan 27, 2011, 04:10 PM

That you liked the way the JJ2WC went doesnt mean that the way the matches were set up was perfect. I think we should get the bad spots out, for example the 4 round matches which were way too long for most ppl in the knock out stage.

I don't think they were too long. In fact, they allow others to play as well, different combinations of teams thus more players happy/gathering experience. I don't think they'd have to be longer either but shorter would make it too short at times imo :lori:

[GpW]Urbs

Jan 28, 2011, 05:46 AM

yup I agree veg. 4 rounds rocked.
5 would have been even better but my noob team mates screwed up:)
I was pwning so hard...

master sven

Jan 28, 2011, 05:55 AM

If you wish for countries like malaysia or australia or even the USA to be in then it would be hard to find a free hour for both countries if one of those plays against an european country, due to time difference. Having to play 4 matches makes it rather impossible.

Enigma

Jan 28, 2011, 01:24 PM

Can we assimilate Gry into a Belgian squad? He's practically one of us anyway ;)

Grytolle

Jan 28, 2011, 04:14 PM

I'd be up for that if DZ doesn't wanna play with me and Grytmastern :D

(I live in Belgium, in case someone didn't know yet)

master sven

Jan 29, 2011, 12:41 AM

Lionel Messi lives in Spain, no way he is going to play for their national team though.

[GpW]Urbs

Jan 29, 2011, 12:52 AM

Stupid as that is of him:)

So, are there ay free peoples of the Earth who would wish to allign themselves with the proud Slovenian nation? We can be team World. I'm sure rep won't mind. And it would be keeping up with a tradition from this neck of the woods: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement

Lets pwn!

BTW I'll even ask the King and Prince if we can have Grytet as our HQ.

Lithium

Jan 29, 2011, 02:56 AM

What about doing a Yugoslavian team? :P

edit: ffs stop picking on my reputation for no reason

Toni

Jan 29, 2011, 02:57 AM

What about making a National Cup with countries before The 1st World War?

cooba

Jan 29, 2011, 03:22 AM

What about making a National Cup with countries before The 1st World War?<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath_of_World_War_I#Nations_that_gained_terri tory_after_World_War_I">can't be serious</a>

Jgke

Jan 29, 2011, 03:23 AM

No. Never a country tournament where Finland would have to play with Russia D:
E: This (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Europe_map_1919.jpg) map is a good one :D

shaney

Jan 29, 2011, 04:29 AM

No. Never a country tournament where Finland would have to play with Russia D:
E: This (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Europe_map_1919.jpg) map is a good one :D

what about the introduction of provinces or states to the tourney . :P then it5 can rock

Treylina

Jan 29, 2011, 05:32 AM

I'm afraid if I ever wonder UK will come back as a team again for JJ2..I know Scotland wouldn't work at all as I know I'm the only player who seems to be from there who is still playing. Most of UK players are inactive and I'm not sure how what we can be combined with. PJ can you hear me (yeah I understand your bad connection these days is the main reason you hardly play online though)!? I think Dutch and Polish players are plentiful enough to play as their own country, so I see no need for those to be combined with any other. Other countries could be willing though.

Zerg

Jan 29, 2011, 05:40 AM

What about making a National Cup with countries before The 1st World War?

xD We would win with Austro-Hungary...
It would be funny..

[GpW]Urbs

Jan 29, 2011, 06:10 AM

Hehe Austro-Hungarian empire ftw:)

spaceboy

Jan 29, 2011, 06:12 AM

At least Poland, Finland, Romania, The Netherlands and Germany could form strong teams.. interesting enough for a tourney!

Lithium

Jan 29, 2011, 06:15 AM

xD We would win with Austro-Hungary...
It would be funny..

Serbia would have fun pwning it...again. :p

And there wouldn't be Poland and Finland...two good teams off.

(keep off my reputation no offense meant)

[GpW]Urbs

Jan 29, 2011, 06:34 AM

yup, true enough. Well the finns lost snz, sucer is inactive and raven is hardly around lately as well. Still any team with SJ and Nerd is dangerous.

spaceboy

Jan 29, 2011, 06:51 AM

It will take a long time till I'll be able to make a new JJ2WC season.
They'll already be back for the tourney by then!

master sven

Jan 29, 2011, 08:08 AM

Utrecht-Flevoland: Vegito, Shaney, Laro
Gelderland: Chiyu, MS, Slaz, Shaker
Brabant: Loon, Mithos

Don't know where Sweet, TW and jazzRP are from...

Fofel is from Overijssel, which is closest to Gelderland, but it would be more fair to add him to Brabant.

Haha, all just an idea. >P

Enigma

Jan 29, 2011, 11:22 AM

Lionel Messi lives in Spain, no way he is going to play for their national team though.

I didn't ask for Lionel Messi, and the FIFA doesn't make the rules of JJ2WC ;-P

Urbs;466500']Stupid as that is of him:)

So, are there ay free peoples of the Earth who would wish to allign themselves with the proud Slovenian nation? We can be team World. I'm sure rep won't mind. And it would be keeping up with a tradition from this neck of the woods: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement

Lets pwn!

BTW I'll even ask the King and Prince if we can have Grytet as our HQ.

Sure, if we can't get a Belgian team together.

master sven

Jan 29, 2011, 02:49 PM

:| ..... It was just an example. It would make sence that u play for the country from which u posses the nationality.

Jgke

Jan 29, 2011, 09:44 PM

Urbs;466514']yup, true enough. Well the finns lost snz, sucer is inactive and raven is hardly around lately as well. Still any team with SJ and Nerd is dangerous.

...Even with me failing to s?

[GpW]Urbs

Jan 30, 2011, 05:06 AM

OFC Jake. Failing to S can be remedied rather quickly. After all, it's all about standing on the base:)

Anubis

Jan 31, 2011, 05:51 PM

In the last national tourney there were 7 teams participating and still a few forfeit losses occured. (Yes, that was just half a year ago, and even getting 8 3v3 teams wasn't possible.) Sven is way too optimistic about the amount of teams. The countries that participated last time would most likely be in. If you add Sweden, Belgium and Croatia/Slovenia to them, there could be 10 teams at most.
And if that's allowed, I'd like to play for Germany. I've been living here for a few months already, and planning to stay here for at least a few years.

Enigma

Feb 1, 2011, 03:37 AM

I think we will actually be needing some country alliances (that is to say, if we want a nations cup to be a bit more colourful than the Netherlands vs Poland over and over again), since you need 4 active players per country at the very least (no, not 3, definitely 4; there is always a player who can't make it, who forgets about the game, who had something unexpected come up, you name it; just 3 players in a team is almost guaranteed to result in mass forfeits).

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 1, 2011, 06:20 AM

I think it's doable as well. Although the croatians probably don't need me:)

Anyway if the players agree and if they play some matches together I'm sure alliances could be formed and there is no reason they couldn't work out just as good.
The favourites remain the same of course, but I bet some wicked alliances could shake things up (enigma, riccardo, urbs ftw:)).

Lithium

Feb 1, 2011, 09:39 AM

So Urbs,what do you say? Brotherhood and unity once again?

Ana

Feb 1, 2011, 09:58 AM

yeah,good idea.I want to make an alliance with czech!

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 1, 2011, 10:12 AM

I wouldn't mind Lithium, but I think that if we don't play it samrt we could have dis-unity again:)

Thing is Serbia has enough players on its own, why should I, for example play instead of say, Afiiko? I benefit of course, but there is no guarantee we will win if I play. And if we lose, all the Serbian players that got left out would be furious.

And if we add to the equation Croatia, with King and his vile temperament, things could get tricky, is all I'm saying. Serbia could be a powerhouse in it's own right. Although I wouldn't mind playing for a Yugoslav team, if that's what you're asking me Lith:)

In current form, the Dutchies would take it easily. You would basically get the CC alpha warteam playing minus Grytolle. Granted, I think Grytolle is one of the most under-estimated players (still!), they should still comfortably cruize to victory. Romania could do very well, if Ana, Kryt and Kenny would do a couple of trainings. Poland has an insane amount of players, but that's not always a good thing (like in the hypothetical case of Yugoslavia - we would be forced to mybe add players into the team not based on merit or on team chemistry but on national faultlines. If I were an ass I could say that each nation should have one spot in every game, which would make me play every game, for example.I wouldn't do this, I'm just ilustrating an example.)

Lithium

Feb 1, 2011, 10:15 AM

Well that'd be the problem Urbs,but I'm sure we'll deal with the team issue. We could even do trainings and see which team fits the opponent.

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 1, 2011, 11:36 AM

Well I'm willing to give a shot. But only if the other guys from serbia and croatia don't mind. I'm not sure they're all in favour of it:)
But if they are, and if we can get some trainings together, then it might work.

Lithium

Feb 1, 2011, 12:01 PM

I already talked with the Serbian squad. They don't mind,but they can't make a deal about the teams.

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 1, 2011, 01:04 PM

Cool, what about the croats? I mean, Serbia and Slovenia (or even just Serbia) are pretty l33t as it is, but Croatia was part of Yugoslavia so I guess we should ask them right? Rew seems inactive though, so I only know king from croatia who plays atm.

Although even Serbia+Slovenia is ok with me btw.

Grytolle

Feb 1, 2011, 04:20 PM

yeah,good idea.I want to make an alliance with czech!

You have like 10 romanians already

Lithium

Feb 1, 2011, 10:47 PM

Urbs;466652']Cool, what about the croats? I mean, Serbia and Slovenia (or even just Serbia) are pretty l33t as it is, but Croatia was part of Yugoslavia so I guess we should ask them right? Rew seems inactive though, so I only know king from croatia who plays atm.

Although even Serbia+Slovenia is ok with me btw.

Well yes,we should ask him too

EDIT: I'd also like to have Rew in our team,but I doubt he'd like to play for Yugoslavia...

Ana

Feb 2, 2011, 06:27 AM

an alliance with czech > team romania!!!!

Zerg

Feb 2, 2011, 06:47 AM

But.. we have enough players from romania already... More than have to..:p

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 2, 2011, 07:37 AM

ya lithium, he doesn't seem like a person keen on that idea:)

I do like him though:)

Anubis

Feb 2, 2011, 07:53 AM

There should be a rule about what kind of alliances can be made (if at all), otherwise it might just turn into a regular 3v3 tournament.

Lithium

Feb 2, 2011, 08:16 AM

Anubis,I think our kind of alliance should be allowed. Slovenia and Croatia want to play,so they can play with us. After all,we were in a same country before...

Sorry Ana,but I don't think Czech Republic and Romania should play together. Romania already has a lot of players and they weren't in the same country before (well,not the whole country,and it'll interfere with Yugoslavia),if we are to use the countries that used to exist before.

Anubis

Feb 2, 2011, 09:48 AM

I wasn't referring to your team, Lithium, I was referring to the random teams that could be made up.

master sven

Feb 2, 2011, 10:50 AM

I think if a nation has enough members, they shouldn't make an alliance. As for Urbs, there are more people from Croatia (Snake,King,more?), so a Croatia-Slovenia alliance would be enough.

Lithium

Feb 2, 2011, 11:05 AM

As far as I know,there are only King and Snake. Even if they ally with Urbs,they'll still have just 3 members. That's still not enough for a team to work,as someone said before.

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 2, 2011, 12:39 PM

Well 3 could work, but in practice it wouldn't be a good choice if you ask me. It's always good to have a reserve.

Ric

Feb 2, 2011, 01:21 PM

I could join Slovenian team I think, if that's ok. I'm all alone here. Italy is next to Slovenia so it should work, and I'd be glad to play with Urbs :D

Lithium

Feb 2, 2011, 01:33 PM

thou shalt not defy our plan

Why don't you play for Italy? (wait,are there any Italian players?) And please,no random alliances.

Anubis

Feb 2, 2011, 01:46 PM

If Slovenia has been a part of the Roman Empire, it wouldn't be a random alliance :D:D

Lithium

Feb 2, 2011, 01:47 PM

Fine,then I'll play for The Glorious Empire of Atlantis.

funny,Viper suggested the same thing you did when we were joking about some ideas here...

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 2, 2011, 01:51 PM

haha everybody wants me:)
U noobs! I skuk!

Ric

Feb 2, 2011, 02:48 PM

Italian team would not work. Else I could make a love-alliance with Ana's Romania :)

By the way, it would be cool to organize a 2on2 tournament with random teams (players will decide them).

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 2, 2011, 11:05 PM

yup that has been done in the past and agreed it could be fun.

Ana

Feb 3, 2011, 06:45 AM

yeah!!!!! 2v2 tournament!!!! I was with Sweet! GIRLPOWER [GP]!!! We pwned the nubz.

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 3, 2011, 07:23 AM

Ahh my sweet Ana, she does so love to pwn the noobs!

Ana

Feb 3, 2011, 07:33 AM

don`t you?

Enigma

Feb 3, 2011, 08:04 AM

Random alliances ftw! (Otherwise the only country I can ally with is the Netherlands, and they really don't need additional players).

...then again we haven't heard Rep's stance on this matter yet and he might just still decide to forbid alliances altogether.

Lithium

Feb 3, 2011, 09:51 AM

ffs this is a national tournament,not a random 2v2 one

And also,allow Yugoslavia,let Gry play for whatever team he wants and that's all.

master sven

Feb 4, 2011, 01:44 AM

Let everyone play for the country/alliance where they posses the nationaltity from.

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 4, 2011, 02:17 AM

How can you have a nationality from an alliance MS??

Lithium

Feb 4, 2011, 02:50 AM

Let everyone play for the country/alliance where they posses the nationaltity from.

Isn't that what we all suggest???

The point is,no random alliances should be allowed,for example,"/ME WANTS TO ALLY WITH THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY PWN","/ME WANTS TO ALLY WITH THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE I LOVE ONE OF THEIR TEAM MEMBERS OK NO????"

master sven

Feb 4, 2011, 03:07 AM

Ric

Feb 4, 2011, 03:37 AM

Let's make it that nations next to each other can ally

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 4, 2011, 05:02 AM

Damn Ric, what's the hurry with becoming a Slovenian?:)

Got tired of pasta and Serie A?:)

Anubis

Feb 4, 2011, 05:45 AM

@Urbs: With nationality from an alliance I mean that if, for example Slovenia and Croatia have an alliance that then all people with a nationality from those countries can play there, no others.

@Lithium: You said let Gry play where he wants to play, I think he does not have the Belgian nationality though he lives there, just as Veg probably wont have the Irish nationality. Get the point?

How can you prove your nationality, by scanning your ID and sending it to r3p? I think playing from an IP from the country in question should suffice. I mean, it's not like anyone would travel to a neighbour country just for a JJ2 tournament. And I live in Germany. There are no decent active players from my homeland at the moment, and Germany lacks a good third player, I think it would only make the tournament more interesting if I could play for Germany.

Ric

Feb 4, 2011, 06:13 AM

I'll never get tired of my inter <3 and pasta of course. and I'm not going to become slovenian, just an alliance!!!!!11!1!!!!1!

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 4, 2011, 07:04 AM

Anubis? There are no decent active players from your homeland? you've got to be kidding me.
Although for the record, I don't mind if you play for Germany.
you do live there, so if they'll take you, fair game imo.

I mean it's not like France hasn't recruited half of africa to play for them. And Italy often gets some Italian Argentinians who play for them etc..

Lithium

Feb 4, 2011, 07:38 AM

Let's make it that nations next to each other can ally

i was first

master sven

Feb 4, 2011, 08:26 AM

The funny thing is that a lot of decent players are trying to claim a spot in this tourney.
What everyone should keep in mind is that its about representing your country.
It is about honour. If there are too few people to represent a country then it should be possible to merge 2 countries, like serbia an montrenegro once did. It is not about fitting the best players into the tournament, but fitting the best players into their country, which could exclude some good players.

Lithium

Feb 4, 2011, 08:34 AM

They try to side with the players they like/love/think they'll pwn with them. We gain nothing by siding with Urbs,King and Snake,we're just giving them a fair opportunity to play...I have said this so many times: NO RANDOM ALLIANCES,PLEASE. If you are not living in that country,if you are not from it or if you haven't been the part of a same country in the last 50 years (yes),then don't request to play for it.

Ric

Feb 4, 2011, 09:02 AM

Alright, looks like I'm out then

Enigma

Feb 4, 2011, 09:06 AM

So you're basically saying that except for Yugoslavia (you), the Soviet Union (essentially Russia + chillax) and Czechoslowakia (do we even have jj2ers from Slovakia?), no one's allowed to ally? Yes, that does sound like giving people a fair opportunity to play ;-P

Just saying, non-random (and preferably non-pointless) alliances are harder to make in the jj2 world than you'd think ;)

Lithium

Feb 4, 2011, 09:21 AM

Well actually,some other alliances should be allowed but ONLY in extreme cases. Ric,maybe you could play for us,but that'd be too much. Ally with someone else? (I'd allow that because he'd like to play)

Anubis

Feb 4, 2011, 12:25 PM

Urbs;466741']Anubis? There are no decent active players from your homeland? you've got to be kidding me.
Although for the record, I don't mind if you play for Germany.
you do live there, so if they'll take you, fair game imo.

I mean it's not like France hasn't recruited half of africa to play for them. And Italy often gets some Italian Argentinians who play for them etc..

I could get Hunter, he doesn't have that much experience with CTF though. And the rest of the Bulgarians are members of NC so.. :)

Toni

Feb 4, 2011, 12:30 PM

I'll never get tired of my inter <3

<3 !

Ana

Feb 4, 2011, 01:19 PM

why don`t we organise a 3v3 tournament? it would be funnier than the national one.

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 4, 2011, 01:28 PM

fine, but then I think I'm already in grytmasterns team

Anubis

Feb 4, 2011, 01:36 PM

I would, of course, love to play for Bulgaria.

But you're absolutely right about me being a terrible CTF player. Not to mention I have currently no internet access at my hostel room in Sofia. Most unfortunate, since the second semester starts on Monday.

A question possibly related to what I said: when is this tourney to take place?

Who would be our third player? I doubt teaching some of the noobs in NC to use CTF codes would help that much. Btw we should meet when I come back to Sofia in the summer.

Vegito

Feb 4, 2011, 03:53 PM

I'd prefer a 3v3 as well.
In fact I could play for Ireland cause I do possess an Irish PPS. Thats the Irish personal number.
Gry however studies in Belgium and doesn't have a Belgian personal number I think? Yet again, Gry lives in Belgium for a long time already and speaks Dutch perfectly. If anything he should have had the possibility for a Belgian personal number before I should have had in Ireland. Still, I worked in Ireland and he studies, major difference.

Summary? skip this post its boring :H

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 4, 2011, 11:06 PM

FU veg, maybe add a warning above the post!

Grytolle

Feb 5, 2011, 12:13 PM

I have a Belgian ID-card and a permit to stay there for 5 years, but no citizenship

Anubis

Feb 5, 2011, 12:23 PM

I got a letter today regarding my stay in Germany, I think it's because I did some small job for 2.55 euro without having a work permit. I'll make sure I'm not an outlaw anymore by the time the tournament starts :D

Ric

Feb 21, 2011, 05:54 AM

any news? :D

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 21, 2011, 08:41 AM

well if you ask me, this thing will only work if some1 gives it a kickstart like it happened with jj2wc.
Start the sign-ups and solve the problems as we go along. Rep seems the right guy for the job and we could just use the jj2wc crew and mby even the jj2wc page.
As for the problems, well, here I mean mostly the people who would play but who don't have enough team mates.

I don't think only some historical states should count, IMO if the ohter participants agree random alliances should be possible. (or at least add one team europe, or team world, or both - pretty good solution imo...). We should have a "no-overlap" rule (maybe), where players from a country participating (like Romania) can't play for another team. But even here, if a coutry like poland, which has so many players, has one or two players who are willing to play or be substitutes in team europe, I wouldn't be against it. I mean, let people play if they wan't. (and if the other teams agree). But otherwise, a no-overlap rule would work. If one country plays its players can't play for any other country. That gives a chance for us solo players to participate. And b4 everybody gets pissed off, think about it, its not like we'd make a dream team here. The persons who showed interests for alliances would make a formidable opponent, but we can all agree that in current form, the favourites are known and if such an alliance would be somebody, so be it, its just a game...
And if people don't bitch (and you know they will) things should run ok.

jj2wc forrmat, mby shorter in the final rounds (bst out of 3 not best out of 5). If a country has enough players those players can't play for team europe and/or world, otherwise don't bitch and let the rest of us play, its not like any1 can compete with NL, FIN, POL or RO and Serbia (if hordy plays).

As for any other exceptions, they can be discussed as we go along.

OH and, if I play for any team (world, europe, yugoslavia, roman empire etc), I don't have time to train sry:) I'm taking it easy this time round:)
As for the levels, well I always prefered big pools,cuz is harder to traiin all levels and most people will find their favourite level in the pool.

I know most people hate NA, but I would keep the original jj2wc pool, adding ladderpool levels (both BB levels at least, and distopia to top it off). Make the teams play their games each week, designate teamleaders etc..

We can get the show on the road in 1 week or 14 days...

That is if people won't go flailing around how unfair everything is, and how they think 20 min rounds are too short and how they prefer 21 min rounds and how zaitox stinks and they'll never play there and what's up with stupid bblair anyway I hate it m'kay?

That's why it's good to have rep around, he just couldn't care less about all the people whining:)

Ana

Feb 21, 2011, 09:07 AM

ye,R3p ROX!I`m proud I pwn him. :D

Lithium

Feb 21, 2011, 09:32 AM

I still think random alliances do not go with "world championship" idea.

Anubis

Feb 21, 2011, 11:43 AM

ts not like any1 can compete with NL, FIN, POL or RO and Serbia (if hordy plays).

Germany will pwn you all

Ric

Feb 21, 2011, 01:36 PM

Also nations with many players could try to make 2 teams each or so, I wouldn't mind

Superjazz

Feb 22, 2011, 11:40 AM

I don't think multi-teams from the same country would fit. Let's have an example that there is a country with 2 teams and the other one wins the whole cup. Meanwhile in the other team: "Yay, our country won the cup but we still lost." Meaning that they're like left out from the celebration although they shouldn't.

Besides there really cannot be too many players in a single country in this game. :)

[GpW]Urbs

Feb 22, 2011, 12:10 PM

I agree with SJ. On all accounts. Cuz serisously, people wont have time to play people will get inactive...
etc

Vegito

Feb 23, 2011, 11:10 PM

I would prefer a normal 3v3 tournament above a national tournament.. I guess I wasn't the only one who said that. All these thoughts about random alliances kind of put me off, just go for a normal 3v3 tournament then, it's probably a bit harder to organize but definitely more fun imo ;-)

If you're scared of overpowered teams, rank each player (rank A, B and C) and put one of each together :). Or have every player choose one of each rank so that it could work out anyway AND be rather even.
Ah, and perhaps a rank D, cause 4 players a team would definitely be a must.