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instig1989
May 3, 2018, 09:02 AM
Hello!
I'm new to this forum, I mainly registered because I have no clue how to find a certain version of Jazz2.
I've been looking for a version with working intros and the old Game title, the green one by Nick Stadler instead of the yellow one by Dean Dodrill.
I know it's something very pedantic, but I just want to have the original look of vanilla Jazz but with working intros.
I found a version 1.0 on some abandon-ware site but like I said some parts of the intros are missing, namely the Orange games logo and the sound effects to the Dean Dodrill animation.
If anyone could humor me I would be very thankful! ;3;
Treylina
May 3, 2018, 09:07 AM
Sounds like version 1.20
However, links to non-shareware free downloads are forbidden here, so you won't have much luck.
It is available on GOG though, but I'm not sure if it's 1.20. Most likely it would be 1.23 and 1.24.
Violet CLM
May 3, 2018, 09:15 AM
GOG sells only 1.24 and 1.24x, not 1.23 or below.
instig1989
May 3, 2018, 12:03 PM
Sounds like version 1.20
However, links to non-shareware free downloads are forbidden here, so you won't have much luck.
It is available on GOG though, but I'm not sure if it's 1.20. Most likely it would be 1.23 and 1.24.
Thanks! That's a hint to start with. =3
Is there a place where i can find all the version numbers?
An update log of sorts?
Thanks for the help!
Violet CLM
May 3, 2018, 02:45 PM
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000620010952/http://www.jazzjackrabbit.com:80/faq/120123.htm">Here's the official changelog from 1.20 to 1.23 inclusive</a>, but it doesn't actually mention the logo. I'm pretty sure the color changed in 1.22, however.
Missing from that list:
1.23x: Added christmas versions of the Lizard, Float Lizard, and Normal Turtle enemies, plus the Bilsy boss
1.24: Added new playable character Lori, added Cat and Pacman Ghost enemies, quadrupled the number of tiles usable in levels and tilesets, changed how powered-up ice works, added <code>-spaz</code> and <code>-lori</code> command line options.
1.24x: Changed the menu palette and gave it a snow effect
instig1989
May 4, 2018, 02:43 AM
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000620010952/http://www.jazzjackrabbit.com:80/faq/120123.htm">Here's the official changelog from 1.20 to 1.23 inclusive</a>, but it doesn't actually mention the logo. I'm pretty sure the color changed in 1.22, however.
Missing from that list:
1.23x: Added christmas versions of the Lizard, Float Lizard, and Normal Turtle enemies, plus the Bilsy boss
1.24: Added new playable character Lori, added Cat and Pacman Ghost enemies, quadrupled the number of tiles usable in levels and tilesets, changed how powered-up ice works
1.24x: Changed the menu palette and gave it a snow effect
Thank you so much! x3
Slaz
May 5, 2018, 03:35 AM
1.20 is the original version released by Project2 across Europe, it had Nick's original logo.
1.21 and 1.22 were both released by Gathering of Developers depending on the retail timeframe, and as far as I can remember, they both had the updated yellow logo. 1.22 should've been available as a file-replacement patch at some point, but I never came across it.
1.23 was solely released as a patch program that patched all retail versions (1.20 - 1.22) to 1.23.
PurpleJazz
May 13, 2018, 02:10 AM
I happen to still own my original release JJ2 CD with version 1.20 from 1998, and despite being pretty badly scratched it happily still works! This green CD with the grey JJ2 logo is the UK release which was distributed by a company called Black Friar. I've seen multiple different CDs for JJ2 online but to my knowledge this design with the tagline "He's At It Again!" was exclusive to this UK release.
https://i.imgur.com/GysjrL2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GCIa1vN.png
The number 2 on this title card was pink for some reason.
https://i.imgur.com/kcUdXkP.png
https://i.imgur.com/lIT3Q4a.png
As for the game itself, the most notable difference in the menus is that the old green logo design from the beta versions is still used, and that the menu has a bluish background rather than being mono-purple.
https://i.imgur.com/i4Nocus.png
https://i.imgur.com/7nOZrAA.png
Unlike later releases, 1.20 did not come included with any custom levels. :(
https://i.imgur.com/urtBqB2.png
https://i.imgur.com/OLlgMLf.png
In terms of gameplay, it's not significantly different from later versions. The most notable differences that I noticed as follows:
Carrots can be eaten even when at full health. You don't get any extra health beyond the maximum, but you still get points and the temporary invincibility.
You can also collect ammo even when you have the maximum, and you won't get any additional ammo for doing so.
Airboards can be used underwater, as seen below. They have pretty glitchy behavior, with frames often skipping back and forth between airboard and swimming animations. You can even buttstomp underwater with them which is bizarre, since you can still see the airboard animation while doing this!
Fire Shield bullets work underwater, also see below.
No Capture 4 (Chemical Warfare).
It's possible to get stuck in masked tiles with One Way events by buttstomping on them. With very thin masks such as the "Tower Oaks" sign in the Colonial levels, it is actually possible to completely phase through them!
https://i.imgur.com/zIfst4Z.png
https://i.imgur.com/GvdkPWS.png
https://i.imgur.com/0RmEUob.png
There's also allegedly a whole bunch of improvements to the multiplayer and online netcode in later patches, but I can't assess those because of the lack of 1.20 compatible servers.
https://i.imgur.com/EZgsR9w.png
So there you have it! I hope that answers all your questions. :)
G@vie
May 15, 2018, 02:02 AM
We've also had that same release here in The Netherlands though, so I don't think it was exclusive to the UK. As on your disk, It has both the Black Friar (UK publisher) and Project 2 logo's (rest of Europe) on it.
https://i.imgur.com/cYUmmle.jpg
I absolutely love this box art btw.
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