Another Time Out problem

[JZBlue]

I know 'Time Out' problems were just posted earlier, but I don't understand how to fix this problem. I'm almost sure that it's because of a firewall. When I press F9 and see the stats, my send is working fine and my recieve isn't working period. Could someone please explain how to fix this in.. more towards childs form.

Thankyew ^^ (Anime rules!)

[Sunkist]

Time out suffers unite! My prob is firewall aswell, i forgot to check F9 see if i receive, if i dont i'm sure we can be certain its a firewall prob.

Do you by any change use a router rather than a proxy server?

[JZBlue]

Yea, I forgot to mention I'm sharing an IP with another main computer, which is linked to a university internet system.


*(Mwahaha! The bandwidth is mine)*

[Sunkist]

Mine too i got cable.

[Link]

Internet Connection Sharing inside a university network? Not a chance of it working :p

Internet connection sharing does not work for games, because it does not let you forward ports. If you get out of that somehow, you will still need to contact the administrator and get him\her to forward ports 10052-10054 to your computer.

[JZBlue]

It was tough, and like I said! It does not work THROUGH ANOTHER COMPUTER! The connection is split up by a device simply.. The problem does not seem to be because of a router or firewall. My ISP has contacted me and told me they use no firewall or proxy. So why doesn't it work?


(My problem has slowly changed a good deal from what it was originally thought to be.. I just realised I never said that on 'this' form)

[Link]

"The connection is split up by a device simply.."

A firewall! (or at least a wall)

Imagine you are a packet of data trying to be sent to your computer from outside your network. It looks for a certain IP, say 24.89.12.11, which is your "device". The device splits up the internet connection to many different computers, with internal IP addresses such as 192.168.1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, and so on. Say your computer is 192.168.1.4.

Now back to imagining you are the packet of data...you are going on your way, dum de dum de dum, when you hit the "device" at 24.89.12.11. Now you are thinking to yourself...do I go to 192.168.1.2, or to 192.168.1.3? What about 192.168.1.4 or 192.168.1.5? Ugh...I don't know! And I can't send it to the wrong computer so...I'll return it to the sender! CONNECTION DENIED.

So you see, even if the "device" is not labelled as or called a firewall, it still acts like one. It has no way of telling the packet which computer to go to.

[JZBlue]

The packet cotains the information of which computer to go to! Yes even when it is split up amoung a..er router kind of thing!

Ahck! *edits message* maybe not in UDP packets.. which seem to be what don't work for me.. maybe that's it..?

[Link]

The packet knows to go to 24.89.12.11, because that is what your IP address will appear as to the computer sending the packet.

But it does not contain the information to go to 192.168.1.4 after it reaches 24.89.12.11

192.168.1.anything will be seen to the outside world as 24.89.12.11, and the sender computer will send it to 24.89.12.11, because it has no knowledge of the structure of the internal network. Even if it did send it to 192.168.1.4, that would go nowhere, or it would go to the wrong computer, because that IP address is only used inside your network for your computer.

You are right in that the TCP\IP protocol has the information to send the packet to the right computer, but it only holds one IP address, not two. And that IP would be 24.89.12.11

[JZBlue]

Wouldn't you recieve the information that was meant to go to the other computers to? How do we both recieve the right information on it? (at least for web pages)