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Matrix
May 6, 2001, 03:14 AM
Did you know thst there are some secret levels not in an episode?



If you want to access them do the folowing:



•Make a copy of all the standard jj2 levels ( .jj2 ) but not episodes and keep the copies in the data folder.



•For each file change the name to "my" + old_level_name ( Example: "myCastle1.j2l" instead of "Castle1.j2l" )



•Run jazz and open the home cooked levels episode you should see al the standard levels listed.



•Look in the list. Some levels have strange names. For example "Return to bird land" & "SECRET LEVEL"



Return to birdland is a labrat level that you play as a bird ( Chuck )



SECRET LEVEL is just a copy of one of the Diamondus levels?

JelZe GoldRabbit
May 6, 2001, 07:50 AM
Matrix, we've already discovered all of them. They're just unfinished lvls of lazy Cliff http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

CannibalBob
May 6, 2001, 10:53 AM
Hahaha. Yeah, I've seen 'em. The bird one is pretty cool. You don't need to make backups and everything... Just run JCS and open those 2 levels. Click "Save and Run" without modifying anything, or it WILL save those modifications.

Matrix
May 7, 2001, 12:50 AM
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But i can't have JCS for the mac, ****. http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Matrix

Newspaz
May 7, 2001, 06:34 AM
Get a windows emulator and I'll send it to ya.. Geez..

Wild Angel
May 12, 2001, 09:23 PM
Ack

CannibalBob
May 14, 2001, 04:52 PM
i don't like macs

Electric Ir
May 15, 2001, 05:50 AM
Booyah!

Fear
May 17, 2001, 12:00 PM
Stop complaining, at least MAC actually works sometime, unlike Windows.



Who wants to help me set up a terrorist attack to kill Bill Gates???

Fquist_old
May 18, 2001, 09:22 AM
Bill Gates doesn't work on windows anymore.

~SPLASH~
May 18, 2001, 10:29 AM
yeah his coffee machine took over http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Callum
May 18, 2001, 12:30 PM
Whats Wrong with macs may I ask you doofus.

Callum
May 18, 2001, 12:34 PM
Cool I like the birdys Callum want birdy. Silly Boy Silly Boy. Callum do not want birdy.http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Fear
May 23, 2001, 04:49 AM
I still want to kill bill gates, its his fault windows is so messed up and now his followers from 'microsoft' dont care, because then they can make a new version of Windows every 2 years and make big bucks on it... Like Windows Me, which crashes virtually every time you run a program!



If only linux became number 1, that would be a great improvement, but nooooooooooo, everyone always builds stuff for windows....





Everyone who owns a Mac should be extremely happy, because that works every now and then.

Krysis
May 25, 2001, 05:05 AM
Just wondering, (cool! i just played that level! i allways wondered why there was the labrat 3 tileset...) but isn't there a bonus end of level in labrat 1???

JelZe GoldRabbit
May 25, 2001, 07:11 AM
Krysis, there is only one exit in labrat1. The labrat 3 tileset was used for one of the Treasure Hunt levels

Fquist_old
May 25, 2001, 07:46 AM
On , Callum wrote:

Whats Wrong with macs may I ask you doofus.





Please don't post personal attacks.

Assassin
May 25, 2001, 09:09 AM
How do you get that quote stuff?

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May 25, 2001, 09:20 AM
On , Assassin wrote:

How do you get that quote stuff?







is SomeOne posted a Message u see His text and press the Button Quote

Assassin
May 25, 2001, 09:22 AM
Ow yeah

I see now http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Tnx

Fear
May 25, 2001, 01:55 PM
Heh, after clicking the reply button i completely forgot what the topic was about.... O yes, secret levels. The secret "birdland" in jazz 2 is quite easy to complete, its like a training level...with hurt instead of warp back.

The gargoyles lair (medivo secret) is quite like the normal jj2 levels so i dont see what is so secret.



The diamondus and tube electric secrets were never finished. sadly enough, since i want a jazz 2 lizard level! just like the one in jazz 1...



ow well.

MattW
Jun 9, 2001, 12:30 PM
I had found a level with the filename 'Psych3' and named 'Far Out'. It seemed like an offical level... But at one point in the level i hit a warp that had no warp target.



<And i wonder what the Tube Electric Secret level would look like...>

Fear
Jun 9, 2001, 02:11 PM
How do i make the sequence from BONUS level back to normal level? I keep winding up back at the start of the level.

JelZe GoldRabbit
Jun 10, 2001, 07:16 AM
Yes, an annoying bug, isnt it? Instead of an "area warp secret"-event, use a bonus signpost (looks like a coin warp). Shoot the post and voilá: level finished and to the secret level.



Note: the bonus level signpost also uses the "secret level" field in the Level Proporties

MaGoo
Jun 10, 2001, 03:53 PM
Sounds neat, but when you play as Chuck can you use the guns?

Tubz
Jun 10, 2001, 05:53 PM
Heh, what about Gargoyles Lair

JelZe GoldRabbit
Jun 11, 2001, 07:16 AM
No magoo, you cannot shoot as the bird. And JJ, read the whole topic, man! We already discussed Gargoyles Lair a bit.

BountyKIller
Jun 15, 2001, 03:49 PM
Macs are the best!



-"Matrix" i trust you to make a nice JCS for mac : )



-"CannibalBob" ur a loser get a REAL computer!



-"Fear" I'll help you kill Bill Gates u got the guts and i got the stuff : - 0

Lets also blow up every PC in the world to tiny bits b/c thats all it has!.... tiny bits



-"Callum" You see there is NOTHING wrong with macs!



-"Fear" MAC OS X is out rejoice! they are gonna start making more games for mac



MACS WILL RULE THE RULE IN 2011!

They will send software through the internet and destroy every PC in the world and only Macs are immune!

KILLERRABBIT(ICED KILLER)
Jun 15, 2001, 03:56 PM
uugghh i hate Mac's :P they always crash on me so i got windows ME it still crashed **** and its so ****** annoying! but at least it runs JJ2 sort of ok..........

Tubz
Jun 15, 2001, 05:33 PM
No, you guys didn't talk about Gargoyles Lair. You should edit your topic ICED KILLER because your not allowed to cuss.

purplesheep
Jun 16, 2001, 05:33 PM
"Stop complaining, at least MAC actually works sometime, unlike Windows."



i dislike windows, diffiently, but i must have gotten a cursed MAC or something, it's an iMac and it's running on Mac OS 9.1 or something like that and to put this as nicely as possible.. it's ridicliously "fragile". for whatever reason it has to freeze up so freaking often.. i mean more often than windows. i despise windows and yet i'd rather spend a day using windows than 2 hours on the mac. the total amount of crashes/freeze-ups. windows makes in a day is most of the time LESS than the amount of crashes/freeze-ups the mac makes in just 2 hours.



macs aren't as bad as people make them out to be,



but the whole "MACS ARE PERFECT" and even the "MACS ARE CLOSE TO PERFECTION" thing are just totally ridiclious lies.



jb!

purplesheep
Jun 16, 2001, 05:39 PM
by the way, i'll be perfectly willingly to take back my rant about freeze-ups or wotever and the mac when i finally get Mac OS 10 and if it's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT more stable. and i mean a LOT more stable.



please though don't make any promises to me "MAC OS 10 IS SOOO MUCH MORE STABLE, JEREMY.. I PROMISE YOU!!" not to be rude or anything, but i've heard all sorts of promises before i got a Mac about how "STABLE" and "PERFECT" it is.. and this was when Mac OS 8 was out. So like.. did it suddenly get crappy for Mac OS 9.1 or something?



keep the peace or something. =) 'tis all good.



jb!

RockyR
Jun 21, 2001, 03:43 PM
Interesting that the secret levels got the shaft like that .. . but of course judging by what they were like, the production team may have had trouble figuring out how to make them function as 'secret' (say, as mentioned earlier).

Of course Gargoyle's Lair is nice caus' Jeh made the level.. . but of course the levels aren't obscurely fun. The Jazz 1 secret levels had potential I suppose because of unique items like TNT, the fact that Jazz could collect unlimited ammo . ..

and then those special features that could make it different such as the frequently found Bird morph level...and in the Technoir one, the Bounce Pads. ^_^

Of course in Jazz2 there is an ammo limit, and less obscurely entertaining items. In order to tactically release the game timewise they didn't have time to finish a load of special features, say all those JCS items. . .and features like the bird so they scrapped the secret levels, i imagine, cause they weren't all so useful. In the Jazz TSF (Diamond Edition fits the original idea better) .. . they could have completed all that mess, which may have been their plan.



You'd think if someone got the source code this sort of thing (secret level bug) could get doctored up nicely, as with the bird...and so on. Good times.



- Rocky



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