If I started a group would you join? [Archive] - JazzJackrabbit Community Forums

atesoRJOL

Jul 10, 2002, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by ßúññ¥€lmérTbtCC
err :D

what is a group then ?
Whats the use of it
what do u want ?

btw i'm still alive

check your dictionary :D I want a group (cause noone seems to want a clan) for peaceful jazzers who like to help eachother and dont like war and arguments:P

EDIT: Could be a clan group..

Alister

Jul 10, 2002, 02:46 PM

Help each other to do what?
Join clans?

You're still not being entirely clear...

atesoRJOL

Jul 10, 2002, 03:12 PM

To ensure peace in the Jazz2 community:p
Doesnt matter if your in a clan to join..

Shorty

Jul 10, 2002, 03:51 PM

and...how would joining this group ensure peace? Pretty impossible task if you ask me, Roseta.

atesoRJOL

Jul 10, 2002, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Shorty
and...how would joining this group ensure peace? Pretty impossible task if you ask me, Roseta.
learn that from joining;p I will make a page for it..

Shadow XZ

Jul 10, 2002, 08:34 PM

:O What is this? Rebellion against JOL Roseta? :lol: Naw, I'm just jokin'. But it does seem you're getting bored with JOL... But anywho, you really should explain more of what a group is... and btw, peace is usually impossible, for one person may do something others don't like, and thus brings trouble... so if the only purpose of this group is for peace... believe me... sadly it won't work...

ßúññ¥€lmérTbtCC

Jul 10, 2002, 09:39 PM

Eh make a website of the group make a info page andon that page explain what a group is if it isnt a clan and then what it does and how to join.

edit : reason why we thought it was a groep ( u putted in the clantalk :-\ )

Chiyu

Jul 11, 2002, 07:57 AM

You are actually one of the reasons why there wasn't peace a while ago. Just behave and we won't need this 'group' of yours :). Besides, how are you going to ensure peace?

$tilettø

Jul 11, 2002, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by atesoRJOL
For those who like peace;)
We would train the members a bit, help them when needed..
you need some help :p

and this is useless

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 09:06 AM

Note to CraccoBoy:
Lying and saying you have peace with someone is no good CB;p
I dont want anything to do with you either and I dont want to
speak with you ever again, just ignore me and I will ignore you.
If you read the Lord of the Rings then you know how we can have peace, What Gandalf said to Sauron;p (no offence to the Sauron who used to play Jazz2)

To you all:It seems as if your too stupid to even think its possible for anyone to have peace in the Jazz2 Community. remember: anything is possible:D cheerup guys!

The group is not to be against anything..perhaps clanwars though.
To Shadow XZ: This is not intended to be against JOL so cheer up!:)

I guess you dont even know how to have peace, once we can all fully trust eachother than there will be peace in the Jazz2 Community, same way with the whole Planet Earth.

As for the diffirence between group and clan, look in the Dictionary TO see WHAT A CLAN IS! and same with group;)

$tilettø

Jul 11, 2002, 09:28 AM

i`d doubt that anyone would join jour "Group"

and for Peace we dont need your Group

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by $tilettø
i`d doubt that anyone would join jour "Group"

and for Peace we dont need your Group

If you cant say something better, dont say anything at all.

Trafton AT

Jul 11, 2002, 10:00 AM

So, you want feedback only if it's positive?

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Trafton AT
So, you want feedback only if it's positive?

If you guys dont want my group we can start Jazz2 Community war I instead, thats what you want isnt it?

Trafton AT

Jul 11, 2002, 10:29 AM

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Oh brother. You're being very dogmatic. No-one is mad here. I'm just saying that you don't seem to be excepting anything except "I want to join NOW!" replies. A community war is not going to happen.

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Trafton AT
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Oh brother. You're being very dogmatic. No-one is mad here. I'm just saying that you don't seem to be excepting anything except "I want to join NOW!" replies. A community war is not going to happen.

It would happen sense you guys are not that good at controlling yourselves, if all the admin dissipeared.

Trafton AT

Jul 11, 2002, 10:36 AM

I really don't want to start a flame war. Let's not get mad, okay? I want to keep this message board as clean and friendly as the admins do.

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Trafton AT
I really don't want to start a flame war. Let's not get mad, okay? I want to keep this message board as clean and friendly as the admins do.

If you do then dont say you dont want my group:P

Trafton AT

Jul 11, 2002, 10:41 AM

If you do then dont say you dont want my group:P
I would be interested to find out more about the group. I'm just telling you that I am not likely to join, I am perfectly content with CC. I like the idea of the group, though, we need a peaceful clan. :)

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Trafton AT

I would be interested to find out more about the group. I'm just telling you that I am not likely to join, I am perfectly content with CC. I like the idea of the group, though, we need a peaceful clan. :)

It was just the way you guys said it, fine you dont have to join, I am not going to make you.
Is CC not already peaceful? CC would have to change their ways in a large way to be peaceful if they dont think they are ;)

If CC considers itself peaceful I dont think any of them would like to join.

Fawriel

Jul 11, 2002, 11:23 AM

I like peace.
I COULD join...
But what will it do?
Will you help me with level-making(no wait,I'm an expert myself...),err,forget about that...
So you won't ever fight???
I actually would like an understanding person for my first online game("understanding"because I REALLY don't know anything:D )

Like they say,do tell!:)

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Piccolo
I like peace.
I COULD join...
But what will it do?
Will you help me with level-making(no wait,I'm an expert myself...),err,forget about that...
So you won't ever fight???
I actually would like an understanding person for my first online game("understanding"because I REALLY don't know anything:D )

Like they say,do tell!:)

Well I will fight with other players for fun as thats what multiplayer is for :)
One of your I-dont-know-anythings again?
Show me one of your tilesets o great one!

I will add the POG members names to my upcomming tileset..
perhaps teach a bit of jazz2 clan history..
Make the best hotel I possibly can with my upcomming tileset.

Try to make the community peaceful..

Fawriel

Jul 11, 2002, 11:34 AM

Is there a website yet?

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Piccolo
Is there a website yet?

Not yet, but there will be.

$tilettø

Jul 11, 2002, 11:40 AM

omg this is what i think about this
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Shorty

Jul 11, 2002, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by atesoRJOL
Note to CraccoBoy:

To you all:It seems as if your too stupid to even think its possible for anyone to have peace in the Jazz2 Community. remember: anything is possible:D cheerup guys!

The group is not to be against anything..perhaps clanwars though.

Don't take this the wrong way, I don't want to start a flame war in here.

1. You want peace, yet you just called us stupid for not agreeing with you. Get your facts straight; you don't call people idiots because they just disagree with you. Not very peaceful now, is that?

2. Peace anywhere in probably any game is impossible. There will always be disagreements and there will always be fights. Not everyone likes everyone else all the time; it is human nature to argue, disagree, and dislike others. Everyone will not fully trust each other in Jazz and definetly not the world, so peace cannot and will not be achieved EVER.

3. How will you stop clanwars? Burst into the servers and just tell them "No, you can't do this"?. Clans exist for the purpose of fighting to see which is the best, thus clan wars. In my mind, clan wars are the safest way to solve disagreements rather than harasssing the other clan or even hacking them.

To sum it all up, I am basically saying this group/clan is going to achieve nothing. You can make it, you can get members, and you can try but nothing will be change. No peace will come from it, clanwars will not be stopped, and you cannot change human nature.

This is Shorty, signing out.

(I didn't mean this as an attack on Roseta or her idea. She can do what she wishes but I am merely stating things I believe are true, and reasons why she probably shouldn't even attempt.)

Fawriel

Jul 11, 2002, 11:52 AM

OOOhhhhh....:O
atesoR is Roseta backwards...
Am I so stupid or are you so smart or what?

About your post,I don't think the"bursting in"part was part of the programm.
Clanwars are just called "wars"because you battle each other,people aren't enemies when they fight in a game like Jazz!
In fact,lots of friends and buddies(or however you call each other;) )play against each other without any feelings like hate.

Haha,see?
I CAN make rather long posts!:D
(But you can't make me make such a long one as Shoties!;) )

SoulFirE

Jul 11, 2002, 11:52 AM

The only purpose of clans in JJ2 is have fun and have a war. JJ2 is all about playing the game, compete, have fun, it doesnt have to end up in a total war, look at TF, they have no problems, or FoR or Rot or whatever... no need for a peacefull group, there are so many clans....

Fawriel

Jul 11, 2002, 11:54 AM

Besides,I'm trying to become a TF member a few weeks now...:rolleyes:

Shorty

Jul 11, 2002, 12:01 PM

I know that Piccolo, I've done many fun "wars" and enjoyed just playing with my friends. However, I was mainly talking about the wars between 2 clans that turned bitter.

What I was trying to make a point of is, how is she even going to be against clanwars? The "bursting" in part was suppose to be a sarcastic attempt about how it could be done, because I know for a fact she can't stop people from having clanwars. (And like Jazz has very many to stop anyway...)

Fawriel

Jul 11, 2002, 12:05 PM

I actually would like an understanding person for my first online game("understanding"because I REALLY don't know anything )

Someone around for tomorrow maybe?:rolleyes:

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Shorty
I know that Piccolo, I've done many fun "wars" and enjoyed just playing with my friends. However, I was mainly talking about the wars between 2 clans that turned bitter.

What I was trying to make a point of is, how is she even going to be against clanwars? The "bursting" in part was suppose to be a sarcastic attempt about how it could be done, because I know for a fact she can't stop people from having clanwars. (And like Jazz has very many to stop anyway...)

Duh its not like I was going to say, STOP, dont have a clan war!
Origionally POG was going to be a clan that didnt have clan wars:P
Arguments arent any better than clanwars anyway.
It seems as if you think there is no hope in having peace, if we dont do something about it we could all end up in something worse than jail...I think you get my point:)

I am not saying that anyone has to join, just please dont keep saying I am doing the wrong thing, for you dont know that your doing the right thing.

Fawriel

Jul 11, 2002, 12:11 PM

"So many heads,so many opinions"
(Darn,this would sound much cooler if it was in latin:o )
Like the latin-speaking guys said.:rolleyes:

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 12:12 PM

Before having a clan war think about this: What am I doing this for?
If its to show your better than everyone else, your doing it the wrong way, its the same if an argument gets too bad, small arguments can be fixed easily before they get too bad.

If a clan war is for fun then why not? :P thats what Jazz2 was meant for :D
Be sure that both sides agree that its the right thing to do and its not to show that one clan is better..training is also ok.

Theres more info on POG for you

Enigma

Jul 11, 2002, 12:16 PM

Roseta, i have no doubts that you mean to form this "group" to do a good thing. Buuuut, may i say that there might be a small problem here? Like this topic proves, some people think the idea is ridiculous and pathetic. My question is: aren't you afraid that a "war" between your group and these people might arise? It would kinda spoil the idea of peace... After all, it is in the nature of human to bug those who they don't like ;-P

P.S.: Just to make things clear: i'm not meaning to attack anyone in this post. Should you feel offended anyway though, send me a PM and we can sort it out ;)

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Enigma
Roseta, i have no doubts that you mean to form this "group" to do a good thing. Buuuut, may i say that there might be a small problem here? Like this topic proves, some people think the idea is ridiculous and pathetic. My question is: aren't you afraid that a "war" between your group and these people might arise? It would kinda spoil the idea of peace... After all, it is in the nature of human to bug those who they don't like ;-P

P.S.: Just to make things clear: i'm not meaning to attack anyone in this post. Should you feel offended anyway though, send me a PM and we can sort it out ;)
I am not offended..
I wont be making a website unless people join though.

Trafton AT

Jul 11, 2002, 01:04 PM

Are you going to have clanwars in this group?

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Trafton AT
Are you going to have clanwars in this group?
Its not a clan..we might..

Trafton AT

Jul 11, 2002, 02:04 PM

Here's a big question: what makes it not a clan?

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Trafton AT
Here's a big question: what makes it not a clan?

I will tell you what a clan is by deffinition, sense you are too lazy to look it up yourself. Its a group of famalies.

Shadow XZ

Jul 11, 2002, 04:41 PM

*looks around* Hey, now come on people, cheer up? I mean, this whole thing is basicly flamewar central here, so if we can't make these things positive, then don't flame... But then again Roseta, peace is nearly impossible, and since people are getting angry/confused about it, make sure not to say anything you'll regret, otherwise the mods will be here with there big mod like blaster guns to make sure no flaming happen. It is a good idea I must say for peace, but like I said, peace is nearly impossible, and that's how things should stay.

atesoRJOL

Jul 11, 2002, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Shadow XZ
*looks around* Hey, now come on people, cheer up? I mean, this whole thing is basicly flamewar central here, so if we can't make these things positive, then don't flame... But then again Roseta, peace is nearly impossible, and since people are getting angry/confused about it, make sure not to say anything you'll regret, otherwise the mods will be here with there big mod like blaster guns to make sure no flaming happen. It is a good idea I must say for peace, but like I said, peace is nearly impossible, and that's how things should stay.

You think it should stay with no peace where its nearly impossible?
Jazz2 Clans are like Flamewar central..Clan Talk also is.

If I started a group for clans that clans could join that wanted peace? I wont illigalize clan wars=p If your going to have one just dont let it be serious, and make sure the clan thats challanging you hasnt challanged many other clans.

Shorty

Jul 11, 2002, 09:25 PM

Why do I even bother stating my opinion? Do what you want Roseta, I don't care.

Newspaz

Jul 12, 2002, 02:19 AM

I don't need any help with deciding if this thread is a flamewar or not. The person who will from now on start a flamewar will get a double warning. This thread stays open so we can go on with a friendly/good discussion.

Consider this topic as a high risk one.

Chiyu

Jul 12, 2002, 03:55 AM

Roseta... I don't think there are any serious wars going on at the moment in JJ2, so, you should do something else that makes sense. And if there were some real clanwars going on, you couldn't stop them. Nobody would listen to you, and..... Ah, nevermind, you won't understand anyway. Please do not call people stupid only because they're not too positive about your 'group'.

I think you're just doing this because you want 'power' and members, and you think that you can get more people in this because you CALL it a 'group' and not a 'clan', so people can 'multi-clan'. I could be wrong though.

Conclusion: Peace is a good thing, but no 'group' can do anything about unfriendly clanwars and make total peace.

ShadowGPW

Jul 12, 2002, 03:58 AM

Roseta: A group of gamers in the Online or Lan scenes that are friends with each other or work together in a game is called a clan or in some games called a Squad (Like in Flight Simulating games or Delta Force Series)

So what you just made is a CLAN! notthing more notthing less

Stijn

Jul 12, 2002, 04:45 AM

Soulfire. TF has problems. One of our memebrs is/was (I have no news) in hospital. But I don't think that's what you mean :P

Stiletto. You seem to think this won't work. That's okay, but now don't post much replies with a text like "yuor stoupid whan yuo think this work" because that's not nice for Roseta, who likes peace.

Roseta. I also don't think this is a good idea. Shadow is right, this probably is just a clan with another goal as the other clans here. And did you know that clanwars can also be FRIENDLY? Just a game between players from Clan 1 and Clan 2. Nothing more, nothing less.

Fawriel

Jul 12, 2002, 05:29 AM

Come to think of it,
loads of people(maybe not"loads")have been banned for their posts in the clan talk forum.
Maybe Roseta is right.
Maybe I'm just too optimistic.
Who knows?:o

$tilettø

Jul 12, 2002, 05:51 AM

maybe you are just stupid? j/k :o

well im just giving my Opinion

and Flash Shadow etc they are right and this is Just a clan
does same

atesoRJOL

Jul 12, 2002, 08:17 AM

call it whatever you like:o
I am not trying to stop fun clanwars or anyone having a clan war, you just dont get it:o :O

Shorty

Jul 12, 2002, 09:40 AM

We don't get it because your group is a clan with a pretty impossible/pointless cause.

Chiyu

Jul 12, 2002, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Shorty
We don't get it because your group is a clan with a pretty impossible/pointless cause.

Very well said.
*agrees*

Trafton AT

Jul 12, 2002, 10:19 AM

Peace was not the word to describe JOL when you headed it. Sorry.

atesoRJOL

Jul 12, 2002, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Trafton AT
Peace was not the word to describe JOL when you headed it. Sorry.

My my, get to collage and learn grammer:p You still dont get it do you!
Blaming me for trying to get power? I have no want for power:P for peace is more important, you can leave this topic alone to die in peace, for if you do not I understand that you preffer arguments and war above all else.(not just to Trafon)