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Syntax
Jul 25, 2002, 04:29 PM
(Inspired by Black Ninja / Violet)

This might sound like a crazy idea, but what would you think about making a JJ2 Community card game? Each person from the JJ2 Community could design a card that represents him/herself, including some statistics and a description of them inside/outside JJ2. Then all the cards could be gathered together for use in a game. The game could be simple or complex, and it would be probably be coded in PHP if it were to take shape.

Even if it becomes too complicated to make as a card game, as least the cards would be a fun(ny) way to showcase the community. :)

This would be a community-wide project, so everyone's input counts. Optimistic views welcome, or you can just shoot the idea down if need be.

Any thoughts?

MaGoo
Jul 25, 2002, 04:59 PM
It sounds like it would be a good idea, but I'd like a few more details about the game itself before I decide.

Violet CLM
Jul 25, 2002, 05:08 PM
Would all the cards use some template, or would they just be random things?

Syntax
Jul 25, 2002, 05:45 PM
Unknown Rabbit: They would definitely have a template, so that they are formalized in some way. The person who wants a card of themself made would send in information about whats he wants on his card. Then, whomever is making the cards proofreads it and sends back a formatted card for verification.

Magoo: There is currently no rules for game mechanics yet, anyone can help to give ideas in this area. I may try to think up some ideas myself, tomorrow.

Link
Jul 25, 2002, 06:22 PM
I think the game could be about JJ2 fights. It could be like the real game, where they could do a 1vs1, or a team game, or even other new made-up modes.

Each card would have an experience\skill value, which would determine how well it would do in battles. But unlike paper card games, the skill would actually go up as the card does more fights.

This would have to be designed really well though, otherwise it wouldn't work.

stripe
Jul 25, 2002, 06:39 PM
...or, we could just play the real game ;)

Not that it couldn't be fun, but making a card game simulation of a computer game begs the question: why??

Anyhow, who gets to decide the stats?

stripe

Syntax
Jul 25, 2002, 07:22 PM
stripe: That's ok, Link was just giving an idea. :)

I think theplayers should have a lot of say in relation to abilities and stats, and the card makers can regulate their power if needed. Of course, this also depends on the game mechanics.

SteelTalon
Jul 25, 2002, 08:17 PM
We could always use the good old MTG mechanics and create the cards in Apprentice (ah yes, this brings back memories... haven't used that in a long time). It'd be easier that way.

[EDIT: The more I think about it the more ridiculous this seems. ;P]

Xtreem
Jul 25, 2002, 11:28 PM
I think this is a kool idea, i would defently make a card of me :)

Enigma
Jul 26, 2002, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by Link
I think the game could be about JJ2 fights. It could be like the real game, where they could do a 1vs1, or a team game, or even other new made-up modes.

Each card would have an experience\skill value, which would determine how well it would do in battles. But unlike paper card games, the skill would actually go up as the card does more fights.

This would have to be designed really well though, otherwise it wouldn't work.

Like the real game? You mean: the person who has the "DizZy DM"-card creams all the others? :D
I kinda like the idea of cards though, but what kind of statistics would they have to include?

MoonBlazE
Jul 26, 2002, 03:26 AM
Oooh, let me in the team, I made tons of fake Pokémon cards, if Mirrow remembers I made some jazz2 for fun.
I could do a lot of work.
I made this blank a while ago, just for fun, I didn't think much about how the gameplay should be so I just made it like this:
http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0702/Charather_Blank.gif
(Copy and paste it into your url bar)
I have tons of ideas, like we could make weapon and item cards, I have a cool picture of a 3d lightsaber ect.

Super Saiyan
Jul 26, 2002, 03:50 AM
Whats charater? You mean Character?



By the way this is a really nice idea, we might even get a bigger community by doing this. Sounds Terrific!

Link
Jul 26, 2002, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by Enigma

Like the real game? You mean: the person who has the "DizZy DM"-card creams all the others? :D


That's exactly what I meant. But it would have to be regulated. Like a DizZy DM card would be much rarer then say, a Link card. But what would be really neat about doing it on computers is that each individual card could gain experience. So every time a Link card were to fight a DizZy DM card, it would get better.

MoonBlazE
Jul 26, 2002, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Super Saiyan
Whats charater? You mean Character?I didn't check my grammar on the blanks sinice they never where for puplic releashe.
I could fix that on no time.
Character, I don't think I need explain you what that is.
Each character should have their own special event, and there should be made tactic in other cards so you could build your own killer decks based on each character.

Edit:
I found this in my ''Old Junk'' dictory, it's a text on the game I was thinking on when I wanted to give a shoot for fun:

Character-
One character card must be used in each deck.
The player chooses his or her starting character to play with and plays the character card before the game starts.

Level-
The level stays in play after you played it, discard it if another level comes into play.

Event-
This card could have any effect that would change the game.

Adventure-
This card thats in play, no other adventure cards may be played if there's an adventure card in play.
An adventure may have an effect for your opponent only.

Weapon-
This card should stay in play after play it.
It should alow you use ammo cards or have a special attack effect.

Ammo-
This card may only be played if you have a weapon that alow you play it.
You may have mutiple copies of an ammo card in your deck.

Creature-
This card may only be played to special kind of charathers.

Spell-
This card may only be played to magical charathers.

Each player starts draw 7 cards.
Once per turn, start with draw a card.
You lose by run out of cards from your deck.
You win by let your opponent run out of cards.
You have 3 moves each turn, you'll have to pass your turn when you used your 3 moves.
Your moves can be used to play a card from your hand, playing a character card or an adventure card uses 3 moves whitch skips your turn.
You may have up to 4 copies of each card in your deck, your deck must contain 60 cards, no more, no less.

Unhit
Jul 26, 2002, 10:10 AM
No thought, but an opinion: weird but nice idea!

Chiyu
Jul 26, 2002, 11:29 AM
Hmmm.. YAY!!! A NEW TRADING CARD GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UBER KINKY!!! :D I WANNA COLLECT THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY LEVEL 64 "CRACCO BOY" CARD CAN KICK YOUR LEVEL 13 "BUNNY ELMER" 'S A*S. NOW IM THE JJ2 TRADING CARD MASTER!!! MWUAHAHA!!! GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

MoonBlazE
Jul 26, 2002, 12:09 PM
No, levels is wierd on persons, that would just be ranking, not tactic.
Leave levels. It's not Pokémon, Digimon, or whatever..
Oh, Syntax, now go on ICQ, so we can disquiss gameplay, I will help, I'm born ready for this! ;)

Me
Jul 26, 2002, 12:58 PM
Something tells me this is going to be a bad game.........someone make rules. GOOD rules.

MoonBlazE
Jul 26, 2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Me
Something tells me this is going to be a bad game.........someone make rules. GOOD rules. Someone tells me that Me's custom title gives point *sob*

Newspaz
Jul 26, 2002, 01:31 PM
Didn't Kaven make something like this?

Btw.. who's dad or mom has a printing company ;)

Super Saiyan
Jul 26, 2002, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Newspaz
Didn't Kaven make something like this?

Btw.. who's dad or mom has a printing company ;)

LoL, eh isnt this idea going to be on I-net?

Chiyu
Jul 26, 2002, 02:08 PM
MY LEVEL 78 FIRE-ELEMENTAL CRACCO BOY CARD BEATS YOUR LEVEL 6 ICE-ELEMENTAL MOONBLAZE CARD, MOONBLAZE!! HAHAHA >=)

NOW I BEAT MOONBLAZE AND BUNNYELMER, SO I GET THEIR CARDS!!!!

CURRENTLY IN MY CARD TEAM:
A LEVEL 78 FIRE-ELEMENTAL CRACCO BOY CARD
A LEVEL 1 PSYCHIC-ELEMENTAL FQUIST CARD
A LEVEL 13 THUNDER-ELEMENTAL BUNNYELMER CARD
A LEVEL 6 ICE-ELEMENTAL MOONBLAZE CARD
A LEVEL 49 SPACE-ELEMENTAL ET CARD
A LEVEL 25 AIR-ELEMENTAL NEWSPAZ CARD
A LEVEL 31 EARTH-ELEMENTAL EVILMIKE CARD

BRING IT ON PEOPLE!!! >=)

I'm da master in this game ;-p

MoonBlazE
Jul 26, 2002, 02:32 PM
Spammer.

KRSplat
Jul 26, 2002, 02:32 PM
I have 1 comment: this is strange. ;)

Chiyu
Jul 26, 2002, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Moonblaze
Spammer.

*Whispers to Moonblaze*
(I heard there's a store out here where they already sell the newest set of cards, with all the card at level 20 or higher! I've heard that there's going to be a shiny rare Cow-Elemental Sauron card in each pack!!!! LET'S RAID THAT SHOP!!)

Syntax
Jul 26, 2002, 03:47 PM
lol

Moonblaze: Cool, you've thought about this before. :) I thought about trying to make it an RP card game also. I am now on ICQ cause I just got out of work.

Remember, though the RP route can work, the game could also be something else completely different, like Triple Triad from FF8 (if you've played, you know it). We have complete freedom.

Also, inside jokes would be great for abilities if you give any thoughts to your card later. :)

Chiyu
Jul 26, 2002, 04:29 PM
Triple Triad from FF8 was really cool..
Something like that will surely kick (pancreas), and the chance to use our own heroes or people we can't stand as cards in combat will be sweet. :D Good luck with it.

Derby: Content replacement.

Another Jazz 2 fan
Jul 26, 2002, 08:03 PM
hehe... cool. I would like something like triple triad, that rocks! But with special abilities!

*thinks* Well, the Derby card would have content edit, that would alter attacks on it, the Piccolo and Phoenix cards would have spam abilities that could lower defense, the FQuist card would have the eat your gameboy attack, etc. etc. :lol:

Haze
Jul 27, 2002, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Newspaz
Didn't Kaven make something like this?

Btw.. who's dad or mom has a printing company ;)

He did. Actually, he already had a (almost complete) set of playing rules and had drawn several cards, among those being some people we all know and love.
He posted most of the cards and rules on a board. But that was some time ago... :)

Another Jazz 2 fan
Jul 27, 2002, 11:08 AM
There should be a very strong and uber-rare Dethman card!

MoonBlazE
Jul 27, 2002, 02:15 PM
There should be a holofoil Moonblaze card ;P

Trafton AT
Jul 27, 2002, 02:22 PM
I want a card! Ooh! Ooh! =)
Holofoils are very nice and shiny-like.
Shiny = Goooodd!

KRSplat
Jul 27, 2002, 03:45 PM
KRSplat should have ultra-annoying insanity attacks. Like this one:

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sdfh;RLg[srkgd'lsagf]eawp]
w'dA;wfr
'AS

MY LVL 10000000000000000000000000000 BEAST YUOSR LVDL % CKRAD!

Syntax
Jul 27, 2002, 05:29 PM
If anyone is interested, we could start a chat later tonight and try to throw around some ideas...I'll be on AIM/ICQ for the next 5 hours (maybe more).

4I Falcon
Jul 27, 2002, 09:02 PM
heehee.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

4I Falcon
Psychopath Scooterboy
21000 HP
18750 PP (9500 ATK, 9250 DFS)
Level 27

A completely unpredictable time bomb on wheels. He is known to either brush off insults or threats, or attempt to kill the person using them.

Attacks:

Whap! - Deals 7000 damage to opponent.
Trounce - Deals 5000 damage to opponent, and lowers opponent's DFS by 1250.
Blood Frenzy - Deals 8500 damage to opponent, but lowers 4I Falcon's DFS by 1500.
Rib Shot - Deals 6000 damage to opponent, and lowers opponent's ATK by 1000.
Flip Out - Lowers 4I Falcon's DFS by 4000, raises 4I Falcon's ATK by 4000, and deals 7500 damage to opponent.
Chill Pill - Restores 4I Falcon's ATK and DFS levels to normal, and raises 4I Falcon's HP by 1000.
Self-Detonate - Deals 75000 damage to opponent. 4I Falcon does 30250 damage to himself.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

did i do that right? *casts furtive glances about the room*

Syntax
Jul 27, 2002, 10:01 PM
If you know the rules that we don't, then I don't see why not. :lol:

URJazzCC
Jul 28, 2002, 03:32 PM
I have a few idea's. It's sorta like another card game. But any ways. Here are the card types:
Character: Pretty basic. They'd each get their own Attack and Defence and Health values.

Magic: This would be like Weapons, like you could equip the URJazzCC card with a Blaster power-up to double his attack. They could also include airboards for better defence (Like say add 500, but Seekers not included). Or Carrots to up your health 500. That sort of stuff.

Arenas: Some Characters would have advantages in different arena's. Like Jazz or Spaz cards.

Trap/defencive: You could have like say, the WARP card. It is only activated when one of you character cards is being attacked, and it warps them out of the way. Or The trigger Zone. It triggers a wall in front of you. Or Ricochet, which would reflect all attack back at attacking character.

Then the whole attack and defence and health thing could work like this. You take the attack of the attacking card, and subtract the defence of the card being attacked. The difference would be how much health a card would lose.

When there are no character cards out, you lose DIRECT HEALTH (Each player should have some health to start out with.) Magic cards should also effect their direct health. And when your character card is destroyed, you lose....Say.... 25% of their MAX health.

I could elaborate on this more, but I won't. I think making something like this would be pretty good. Any comments, opinions, or other ideas?

MoonBlazE
Jul 28, 2002, 03:40 PM
Until now we have to find out if it's going to be TT or RP. ;-P
Oh and you just listed my ideas up ;-p

Syntax
Jul 28, 2002, 03:52 PM
We also would need to find someone willing to code the game in some way.

Newspaz
Jul 29, 2002, 02:01 AM
Not me. I'm a lousy coder, so if anyone else but me reads the code they won't understand it or call it rubbish ;).

Oh btw, I think I *can* do it, but only if there are no other volunteers.


Btw, who's gonna make the template?

Chiyu
Jul 29, 2002, 04:07 AM
Now those evil TECs could come in handy ;-P
Or Coolman, ET or Q.

Newspaz
Jul 29, 2002, 04:20 AM
I didn't know they knew php

Syntax
Jul 29, 2002, 09:25 AM
Well, it might be difficult to do in PHP. A Windows or Java client would be better if possible.

I figured we would vote on the template.

EDIT: So Newspaz, does that mean you ARE volunteering? ;)

Super Saiyan
Jul 29, 2002, 12:38 PM
This is turning out to be great, but eh who tha heck is going to make all those card pictures :confused:

Or does everyone makes his own cards pics?

Newspaz
Jul 29, 2002, 12:47 PM
Sure it does. As long as noone will complain about my lousy code :).

MoonBlazE
Jul 29, 2002, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Super Saiyan
Or does everyone makes his own cards pics? Some persons already have been drawn, I don't think Skulg or Pho would mind if my card picture where from one of my requests I gave them.
Else, yes, you gotta find some picture of your character.
So now there will be ripped a lot from the start intro ;-P

Syntax
Jul 29, 2002, 12:55 PM
Super Saiyan: The cards will be made by whomever's template (see earlier posts above) is chosen. I figured we would vote on the template after a few submissions were made.

KRSplat
Jul 29, 2002, 03:32 PM
We could have multiple artists.

MoonBlazE
Jul 29, 2002, 03:36 PM
The game isen't going anywhere before we got results of the poll from the RP rules.
So go vote if you haven't done. ;-P

Chiyu
Jul 30, 2002, 02:23 AM
I'll just use the face of the cracco on the CC logo, if that's allowed, that is. Or my own face with some editing so I look half cracco, half human. That'd be.. weird, but fun.

Syntax
Aug 1, 2002, 02:50 PM
Ok, according to the (weak) polls so far, there seems to be equal support for both games. Newspaz is willing to attempt a PHP version of the TT game. If there is anyone out there who would volunteer to write the ropleplaing game, of if there is a GUI programmer out there, please reply.

Chiyu
Aug 1, 2002, 03:38 PM
Do you need people who can make online RPGs? Maybe people with MMF knowledge?

Unfortunately, I only know how to make offline Role Playing Games, using the RPGcode language, and I'm getting rusty at that too... :(

Syntax
Aug 1, 2002, 05:42 PM
No, I am referring to <a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5120">this.</a>

defalcon
Aug 2, 2002, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by KRSplat
We could have multiple artists.
Skulg, Pho, Wildie, Ducky, Cobra :)

Stijn
Aug 3, 2002, 02:33 AM
<strike>I'll draw everything</strike>

Trafton AT
Aug 4, 2002, 01:10 PM
Trafton aka Zypher
Attacks:
Play JJ2: You lose the game.

:D