Spotty
Aug 11, 2002, 04:18 PM
Spotty:Yes I must have felt somewhat silly at this point :P o well at least its not boring :P. Ther are some hints at a future blode tileset in it which have been changed Violet tells me ;P. (blode tileset wow) :P.
Conversation between Violet CLM and Spotty DM, with interruptions. (This was held over MSN)
Normal text is Spotty.
Bold text is Violet.
Italic text is someone whose name will not be revealed.
Underlined text is CraccoBoy.
Italic Underlined text is Black Ninja.
i need a tileset pallete that psp will open
Hmmmm.
A JJ2 compatible one?
yes so i can paste some pics for tileset
i need it to be somewhat big
: P
Do you want the non-sprite colors empty (so you can make them whatever you like), or filled?
sprite colors what are those
;P
just teh regular colours
i guess
: P
standard jj2 colours..
Sprites are things like Jazz, Crates, Enemies, Food.. events with images.
ya standard colors
Pinball events, and shootable trees, don't use sprite colors, sadly.
so they appear the same and i dont get weird results
: P
So just those, with the rest empty for you to make them whatever you like?
just the jj2 colours i wont be editing any
You're going to make a tileset with just the sprite colors?
.....arn't ther alot of sprite colors
thats what i did with (previous tileset)
: P
the standard pallete
: P
The sprite colors are like ten different six color gradiants. That's all you'd get.
hmm?
but my blode tileset has like 100
It has more then just the sprite colors.
o
i just want the standard colours u need for tileset
like the pallete i got from
how to jcs
Ok, but if it's too small, tell me.
ill send u my small pallete
if u want
u can just make it bigger
(A palette was sent from Violet to Spotty)
Sprite colors, nothing else.
will psp open that?
Yes.
my psp cant identify it
Are you using "Load palette"?
"the specified file cannot be identified as a supported type
ill try that
You don't just double click on it.
(And you need an image to load it, remember)
u need an image??
what?
aaah
You need an image to make a tileset.
ok
u mean open
or load
: P
i dont see load button
Open/load palette. I forgot which one it is.
err
ill show u example
of my small pallete
that i want bigger
: P
How about I give you a full palette?
;P what
it has teh jj2 colors
A full palette, as in sprite colors along with other colors.
it has standard colours
top left has
transparent
colors
(A palette was sent from Violet to Spotty)
If I got the right one, you'll see what I mean by a full palette.
those r just colors
no blu boxes
to put tiles in
It's a palette, not an image!
: P
ok
how bout a image ;P u have any good ones
(Italic person) has been added to the conversation.
: P
Just make a new image, 320 pixels wide, any multiple of 32 tiles high.
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
F00!
but how do u get the blu
tiles
What blue tiles?
to make tileset
how do u make tilesets violet
if u dont have blu stuff!!!
: P
asbduyasnsytbdsatsa
*confused
Hah!
: P
I TRICKED YOU!
I make a 320 pixel wide image, multiple of 32 pixels high. I then put in the tiles.
a;lsdjf
Your name appears as (italic person's name).
can u give me a big but not to big once
*one
Drat it.
with the tiles
in it
Do you know how to use PSP's grid function?
no
: P
Now?
i know nothing about psp
: P
Let me get PSP.. easier to tell you what to do that way.
Still the same, (italic person).
: P
Drat it.
Reinvite me.
(Italic person) has left the conversation.
...
: P
Make a new image, 320 pixels wide, 640 tall.
ok
: P
Go into File-Prefrences-General Program Preferences, select "Rulers and Units", set the Grid options to Units pixels, horizontal spacing 32, vertical spacing 32, and line color whatever you like.
Then go into Colors-Load palette, and with "Nearest Color Matching", find where you stored the palette, and load it.
The button to load it is "Open".
Then press Ctrl+Alt+G, and your grid is ready.
Along with your image and palette.
how bout i open stencil , and make it bigger ;P
(Italic person) has been added to the conversation.
Stencil is a clunky thing that doesn't work too well. Your tiles end up not being 32x32 that way.
Ah, (italic person's name)!
they dont??
...............
the tiles worked for me
They can, but you have to be more careful then you do with the Ctrl+Alt+G grid.
YET?
It's (name Italic person wanted to have) now.
ßlÃ(-)¢k Ñïñjâ has been added to the conversation.
o well ill be more carful then
Hi Black!
Goodie.
BN!
I'm trying to get Spotty to understand how to make tilesets.
how do i make stencil.bmp bigger violet
Is this the real BN?
ASNCyucI&nsdyi
I told you, use Ctrl+Alt+G! It's much better then just using Stencil.
(Italic person) has left the conversation.
i want STENCIL!!
: P
its already done for me
and colors
are ther
Stencil doesn't really allow you to change the size very much.
all i need to do is paste stuff
: P
And it only has the sprite colors, nothing else.
it has tons of colors
: P
With a proper palette, image, and grid, it works much better.
lets just pretend its good
Çr㢢ö Bôy CC has been added to the conversation.
now how do i make it bigger
is ther an optioN?
CB, could you get Spoy here to understand why he should use proper palettes?
foo
: P
i made (previous tileset) with stencil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for making it bigger, select "Canvas Size". and make the height some other multiple of 32. But it won't have your adorable stencil grid pieces.
it has to divide by 32 right?
Yes.
ok
uh
hello
thanx
: P
Hi.
well
otherwise your colors look bleh
reduce the colors to 162 at max
then it wont touch Jazz' own colors
colors are already done
with stencil.bmp
: P
but if u keep it 255 colors then you'll have a messed up version of JJ2 (if u don't remap it) and
it will look all ugly
That's actually not the problem.
: P
i made it bigger yay
: P
it's hard to explain but if u need help with making the pallete, I'm here for ya.
Spotty, make sure you don't use "Resize" as opposed to "Canvas size". They're quite different.
How many lines of colors does your image have, Spotty?
(In the palette)
Completely black lins do not count.
,,,,,
wow
;p
Hi Black .You were invited sometime back and we forgot about you.
err
;P
lines
in color pallete?
Yes.
uh...
Non-black lines.
i c many
: P
How many?
ill send u stencil
u c
No! Just tell me. Faster.
thers
to many
lets pretend im the biggest n00b ever
I was going to.
and dont know what ur talking about
: P
HOW MANY LINES OF NON BLACK COLOR ARE THERE?
HI
I'm back
from (possibly offensive activity)
Count on your fingers if you want.
WB.
tONNNNS!!
to many to count
foo
ANCAy
14 x 14
i dunno
somethin like that
14X20
looks more realistic
by an estimate
Look, even if you used all the 256 colors, you would still only have 16 filled lines. You can count to 16, right?
foo
FOO
ok what do u call a line
: P
16 colors in a horizontal row.
ok
: P
now i can count
Good.
17 lines
without the blak ones
dvnyudh
Listen, there are only 16 lines if you used them all!
well ther are 17!!
: P
What resolution are you at?
on my desktop?
;P
Ok, new tactic.
How many colors are in each horizontal line?
You shouldnt use the first lines
: P
anyway
am I still needed?
it looks like 14 colours per line
if i squint
or can I flee to shazarade
I don't think so. Sorry about the interruption.
: P
Count them.
Cya peepz
Bye.
Çr㢢ö Bôy CC has left the conversation.
ßlÃ(-)¢k Ñïñjâ has left the conversation.
14-16
How can there be more then one number of colors in a line?
i cant c
ther to small
between 14 and 16
colors
per line
Lower your resolution, then. Easier to see that way.
eww looks so ugly ;P
1000 by 700 is my normal
or something close ot that
13
: P
im pretty sure its 13
800 X 600 is the lowest resolutoin i can get
That will do.
Count the colors.
i have 13 colours perline
like i said
That's not right. You should have a 16x16 color palette.
ok lets assume i counted wrong
That's what i was doing.
How many black lines are there?
Horizontal ones.
4
i think
if u include
one
thats only half blak
..
So now you've got 21 lines in the palette.
Maybe you should send me this, after all..
;P
(An image/palette was sent from Spotty to Violet)
s ycusdncys
what
: P
You're not using the sprite colors!
im not?
No.
the website sais they are regular colors
Those are, I believe, the windows colors or something like that.
well...they worked for (previous tileset)
so i shall use em
: P
I suggest you use the palette used in the (assistance image for previous tileset) I sent you. It's going to be your best bet.
But I warn you! You won't be able to use textured backgrounds.
o well
Now, are you able to get the palette from it, or must I get it for you?
im not going for complicated stuff yet
ill use this one
all im doing is pasting 3 images
: P
If you weren't a JDC official and the only source of events for a few days, I think I'd try to kill you.
Conversation between Violet CLM and Spotty DM, with interruptions. (This was held over MSN)
Normal text is Spotty.
Bold text is Violet.
Italic text is someone whose name will not be revealed.
Underlined text is CraccoBoy.
Italic Underlined text is Black Ninja.
i need a tileset pallete that psp will open
Hmmmm.
A JJ2 compatible one?
yes so i can paste some pics for tileset
i need it to be somewhat big
: P
Do you want the non-sprite colors empty (so you can make them whatever you like), or filled?
sprite colors what are those
;P
just teh regular colours
i guess
: P
standard jj2 colours..
Sprites are things like Jazz, Crates, Enemies, Food.. events with images.
ya standard colors
Pinball events, and shootable trees, don't use sprite colors, sadly.
so they appear the same and i dont get weird results
: P
So just those, with the rest empty for you to make them whatever you like?
just the jj2 colours i wont be editing any
You're going to make a tileset with just the sprite colors?
.....arn't ther alot of sprite colors
thats what i did with (previous tileset)
: P
the standard pallete
: P
The sprite colors are like ten different six color gradiants. That's all you'd get.
hmm?
but my blode tileset has like 100
It has more then just the sprite colors.
o
i just want the standard colours u need for tileset
like the pallete i got from
how to jcs
Ok, but if it's too small, tell me.
ill send u my small pallete
if u want
u can just make it bigger
(A palette was sent from Violet to Spotty)
Sprite colors, nothing else.
will psp open that?
Yes.
my psp cant identify it
Are you using "Load palette"?
"the specified file cannot be identified as a supported type
ill try that
You don't just double click on it.
(And you need an image to load it, remember)
u need an image??
what?
aaah
You need an image to make a tileset.
ok
u mean open
or load
: P
i dont see load button
Open/load palette. I forgot which one it is.
err
ill show u example
of my small pallete
that i want bigger
: P
How about I give you a full palette?
;P what
it has teh jj2 colors
A full palette, as in sprite colors along with other colors.
it has standard colours
top left has
transparent
colors
(A palette was sent from Violet to Spotty)
If I got the right one, you'll see what I mean by a full palette.
those r just colors
no blu boxes
to put tiles in
It's a palette, not an image!
: P
ok
how bout a image ;P u have any good ones
(Italic person) has been added to the conversation.
: P
Just make a new image, 320 pixels wide, any multiple of 32 tiles high.
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
F00!
but how do u get the blu
tiles
What blue tiles?
to make tileset
how do u make tilesets violet
if u dont have blu stuff!!!
: P
asbduyasnsytbdsatsa
*confused
Hah!
: P
I TRICKED YOU!
I make a 320 pixel wide image, multiple of 32 pixels high. I then put in the tiles.
a;lsdjf
Your name appears as (italic person's name).
can u give me a big but not to big once
*one
Drat it.
with the tiles
in it
Do you know how to use PSP's grid function?
no
: P
Now?
i know nothing about psp
: P
Let me get PSP.. easier to tell you what to do that way.
Still the same, (italic person).
: P
Drat it.
Reinvite me.
(Italic person) has left the conversation.
...
: P
Make a new image, 320 pixels wide, 640 tall.
ok
: P
Go into File-Prefrences-General Program Preferences, select "Rulers and Units", set the Grid options to Units pixels, horizontal spacing 32, vertical spacing 32, and line color whatever you like.
Then go into Colors-Load palette, and with "Nearest Color Matching", find where you stored the palette, and load it.
The button to load it is "Open".
Then press Ctrl+Alt+G, and your grid is ready.
Along with your image and palette.
how bout i open stencil , and make it bigger ;P
(Italic person) has been added to the conversation.
Stencil is a clunky thing that doesn't work too well. Your tiles end up not being 32x32 that way.
Ah, (italic person's name)!
they dont??
...............
the tiles worked for me
They can, but you have to be more careful then you do with the Ctrl+Alt+G grid.
YET?
It's (name Italic person wanted to have) now.
ßlÃ(-)¢k Ñïñjâ has been added to the conversation.
o well ill be more carful then
Hi Black!
Goodie.
BN!
I'm trying to get Spotty to understand how to make tilesets.
how do i make stencil.bmp bigger violet
Is this the real BN?
ASNCyucI&nsdyi
I told you, use Ctrl+Alt+G! It's much better then just using Stencil.
(Italic person) has left the conversation.
i want STENCIL!!
: P
its already done for me
and colors
are ther
Stencil doesn't really allow you to change the size very much.
all i need to do is paste stuff
: P
And it only has the sprite colors, nothing else.
it has tons of colors
: P
With a proper palette, image, and grid, it works much better.
lets just pretend its good
Çr㢢ö Bôy CC has been added to the conversation.
now how do i make it bigger
is ther an optioN?
CB, could you get Spoy here to understand why he should use proper palettes?
foo
: P
i made (previous tileset) with stencil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for making it bigger, select "Canvas Size". and make the height some other multiple of 32. But it won't have your adorable stencil grid pieces.
it has to divide by 32 right?
Yes.
ok
uh
hello
thanx
: P
Hi.
well
otherwise your colors look bleh
reduce the colors to 162 at max
then it wont touch Jazz' own colors
colors are already done
with stencil.bmp
: P
but if u keep it 255 colors then you'll have a messed up version of JJ2 (if u don't remap it) and
it will look all ugly
That's actually not the problem.
: P
i made it bigger yay
: P
it's hard to explain but if u need help with making the pallete, I'm here for ya.
Spotty, make sure you don't use "Resize" as opposed to "Canvas size". They're quite different.
How many lines of colors does your image have, Spotty?
(In the palette)
Completely black lins do not count.
,,,,,
wow
;p
Hi Black .You were invited sometime back and we forgot about you.
err
;P
lines
in color pallete?
Yes.
uh...
Non-black lines.
i c many
: P
How many?
ill send u stencil
u c
No! Just tell me. Faster.
thers
to many
lets pretend im the biggest n00b ever
I was going to.
and dont know what ur talking about
: P
HOW MANY LINES OF NON BLACK COLOR ARE THERE?
HI
I'm back
from (possibly offensive activity)
Count on your fingers if you want.
WB.
tONNNNS!!
to many to count
foo
ANCAy
14 x 14
i dunno
somethin like that
14X20
looks more realistic
by an estimate
Look, even if you used all the 256 colors, you would still only have 16 filled lines. You can count to 16, right?
foo
FOO
ok what do u call a line
: P
16 colors in a horizontal row.
ok
: P
now i can count
Good.
17 lines
without the blak ones
dvnyudh
Listen, there are only 16 lines if you used them all!
well ther are 17!!
: P
What resolution are you at?
on my desktop?
;P
Ok, new tactic.
How many colors are in each horizontal line?
You shouldnt use the first lines
: P
anyway
am I still needed?
it looks like 14 colours per line
if i squint
or can I flee to shazarade
I don't think so. Sorry about the interruption.
: P
Count them.
Cya peepz
Bye.
Çr㢢ö Bôy CC has left the conversation.
ßlÃ(-)¢k Ñïñjâ has left the conversation.
14-16
How can there be more then one number of colors in a line?
i cant c
ther to small
between 14 and 16
colors
per line
Lower your resolution, then. Easier to see that way.
eww looks so ugly ;P
1000 by 700 is my normal
or something close ot that
13
: P
im pretty sure its 13
800 X 600 is the lowest resolutoin i can get
That will do.
Count the colors.
i have 13 colours perline
like i said
That's not right. You should have a 16x16 color palette.
ok lets assume i counted wrong
That's what i was doing.
How many black lines are there?
Horizontal ones.
4
i think
if u include
one
thats only half blak
..
So now you've got 21 lines in the palette.
Maybe you should send me this, after all..
;P
(An image/palette was sent from Spotty to Violet)
s ycusdncys
what
: P
You're not using the sprite colors!
im not?
No.
the website sais they are regular colors
Those are, I believe, the windows colors or something like that.
well...they worked for (previous tileset)
so i shall use em
: P
I suggest you use the palette used in the (assistance image for previous tileset) I sent you. It's going to be your best bet.
But I warn you! You won't be able to use textured backgrounds.
o well
Now, are you able to get the palette from it, or must I get it for you?
im not going for complicated stuff yet
ill use this one
all im doing is pasting 3 images
: P
If you weren't a JDC official and the only source of events for a few days, I think I'd try to kill you.