About Teams

[MoonBlazE]

In the last time I had played jazz2, I've played many 2on2, and joined JDC events.
It's here I get the feeling that I am nothing wroth or jazz jackrabbit 2 just sucks.
Becuse:
The teams are so unfair, that it isen't fun.

Now me, Red, Unhit, and Enigma had a duel, I am no duel master in face of Unhit, and Enigma is pretty good throught.
Now the teams ended up:
Unhit, Enigma, against, me and Red.
We got trashed 5-0.

Now most people has it in that way, if they are on the best team with most oldies and profisions, it's okay, while the other team just disappears slowly.

JDCE events is soo bad made up, sometimes result ended as 72-7, the excuse is random teams.

Okay, now we take the subject Random teams, it's basic system, a blue joins, a red joins, a blue joins and so on.
On Bank Robber:
This depends totaly on the teams, if you'r on a bad team, you almost lost, becuse your team mates dosen't find the game fun when they know they lost, it will get messed up, and the game would be ruined.
On CTF:
Wow, their team is much better, let's switch when they only miss one point.

That my question is, what's the problem with making the teams fair?
If the cost for a fun game is the teamchat, then what's the problem?
Teamchat or fun?

[MaGoo]

Uhh... It's all based on luck. If you end up being on a "bad" team, then too bad. Live with it Moonblaze, we all do. Oh, and guess what? Bobby isn't always on the winning team either! Oh goodness me, isn't that a surprise!

[EvilMike]

Honestly, we (the JDC staff) put in a lot of work to organize, host, maintain, and record events. It would be far too difficult to make it so each event has arranged teams. Random is by far, the best way to go. This "72-7" score you are talking about is most likely in a Bank Robbery event. Bank robbery has a major flaw in it, which allows the server's team to have a <b>HUGE</b> advantage over the other team, the reason being that ammo only regenerates for one side (the one the server is on). Luckily, this isn't an issue now that we have a certain program that was released a few days ago by bobby.

Life isn't fair. Become a better player. Sorry for being so frank, but that's the only reply I can give.

[MoonBlazE]

Okay, thanks.

[Unhit]

I SUCK. :P

[Super Saiyan]

(p), I still remember what you did at the last event. TSK! (p)you know what happend? It became 2 vs 4, Me and Thunder had to face vs Stiletto, Enigma (host), Boarder, WhiteRabbit. Now I didnt had much problems when you still was there, but making it worser by leaving us, thats just so #$%^&*(! Your really a gamebreaker, or however they call it.:mad:

[personal attack edit, please quit the attacks, Super Saiyan. -FQuist]

[Super Saiyan]

To make sure, it was VS 5! Only I forget the other person.



EDIT: You even tried multiple times to go on the other team... so you would be on the winning team, in start of the game.

[$tilettø]

heh yeah its just about luck and i played 4 vs 2 or 4 vs 3 in jdc events too and i just accept that and play

and dont leave your m8 behind

you leave them and now you are complaining here??

(p)

[Personal atack + swearing, you get a warning -FQuist]

[Enigma]

Look, random teams are the best way to go. For a start, it will make teamchat work. And, most important: the number of players on each team can only differ by 1 in the worst case. As for 2on2s: suppose 3 good players and 1 bad player are playing. How are you going to make fair teams, even without using random? Losing is part of the game, even if you lost because your team is weaker. In bank robbery you should just try to make the best out of it. Though the difference is sometimes big, it will hardly ever turn out to be like 72-7.

Oh, and i'd like to ask players: try not to leave in the middle of the round in bank robbery. It messed up teams badly in yesterday's last round, and makes it harder for me to figure out the correct scores. If you have a cto and can't rejoin, well then of course you can't help it. But don't leave because you think teams are unfair. If you really refuse to play, leave before the round starts so we can re-arrange the teams to have an equal amount of players. This isn't possible when the teams have already switched. If you leave then, well... you'll just make teams more unfair, which really won't improve your score.

[Red_XIII]

Moony Lupin! :D:D:D [Stop calling me Rina ;p]

Anyway.... I sucked last night cos well.. my connection was lagging like hell. I'm not saying lag is good or whatever and giving the other team the advantage or so, but random teams are well... random. Give them a rematch in other teams may be the trick :p

[Fawriel]

Oh,man,if it comes to luck,I think I would fail all the time...:rolleyes:

[Unhit]

Originally posted by Red_XIII
Moony Lupin! :D:D:D [Stop calling me Rina ;p]

Anyway.... I sucked last night cos well.. my connection was lagging like hell. I'm not saying lag is good or whatever and giving the other team the advantage or so, but random teams are well... random. Give them a rematch in other teams may be the trick :p

56K huh :p?

[MoonBlazE]

@ Stiletto:
You know you not may talk to me in that way, you are insulting me and so on.
Exactelly you are starting flamewar, so go away, long away please.
@ SSJ:
No, I didn't know how the teams ended, I knew that White Rabbit entered as red too, the teams where so freaking unfair that I'd quit.
You have no rule on persons should stay, if you did better with teams, I hadn't left.
I tried once two times, mutiple is 3 or more, get your math in work.

People leaves if it aren't fun, that's basic.
If you rather want to get content edited here, go away with Stiletto. ;oP

[Enigma]

Originally posted by Moonblaze
You have no rule on persons should stay, if you did better with teams, I hadn't left.

I'm not saying it's a rule. I'm just saying it's more convenient and more fun for your teammates.

[MoonBlazE]

It had to be fun for your teammates too ;oP

[FQuist]

It really depends on why you play. You shouldn't let the fun depend on wether you are winning or not.

[Super Saiyan]

FQuist, I didnt meant that as a personal attack, but its really something bad what people can do to ruin the game. But what I mentioned is true. Anyway forget this, I dont want to discuss further with it.

[FQuist]

Calling someone names is a personal attack, I'd think.

[Violet CLM]

I do disagree with Moonblaze, as people don't always leave if it isn't fun (E.G. Democrats in USA), but I'd like to thank him for giving me one of my daily laughs over "JDCE Events".