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Trafton AT
Sep 15, 2002, 11:24 AM
In the Rebels topic, several people said they wanted to talk to the leader of RK, Bolt. Well, the truth is I am not in RK and I'm sick of the whole Rebels thing ending up as an infinite loop. Since Bolt (aka Black Energy) is banned from the JCF, I will post his responses to the questions you ask. I will only edit the replies for content, and I'm not responsible for anything Bolt says (moderators, don't worry, I'll edit for content, etc.) and do not necessarily agree with it. In short, the views reflected in this article are not necessarily those of Trafton or Trafton's staff...erm...friends. ;)

Here is the original post by Bolt, which can be found on the CCMB at http://members.lycos.nl/craccoclan/PHPBB2/viewtopic.php?t=278:

I´d like to explain a little about RK, the Revolutionary Knights, a group of volunteering activists from all over Jj2 (the rumors that this is just CC under a new name are FALSE!!! I guarantee it, and lord CraccoBoy can do the same), leaded by me. Basically RK´s goal is: all people/clans on JJ2 equal in power, peace and no discrimination. Please note that when this state is more or less reached, RK will disband. We want to have JJ2 back like it was before the dead of CTU (which used to be a clangroup like GG, but much bigger, better and popular). Before people tried to disolve CTU and, everything was fine in my opinion. I think that there are several people in the Jj2 community who have some ´power´ and who´re using it for wrong things.

A few words toward the members of DM:
Do not get us wrong, we are not towards you at all. DM might (though I personally don´t like it myself) actually be a good clan with members enjoying their stay in it, I don´t know. It´s just a coincidince that some people we have some problems with are in DM (EvilMike, Dizzy and Fquist). I´ve talked with some CC members and a lot of them say that there are also a few cool DMs (Spotty, FireSword, Salamander and Sprintman seem to be the most popular ones, and Flea, Deadlock, EvilMike, Dizzy, Fquist and Magoo the least popular ones). Please don´t feel offended by RKs actions, and if you do, I apologize.

A few words about our relation with DDL:
Yes, RK is allied with DDL. Some members of DDL are also in RK, but most aren´t. RK and DDL share most of the same principes. However, we´re not agreeing that it´s best to destroy JJ2 and it´s server lists, we try to work more peacefully.

I gtg now, to be continued... I´m open to any questions.

Go ahead and ask. I'll pass it on to Bolt. Sorry if this message has any content. I couldn't see any, but there might be some, and I apologize if there is.

Newspaz
Sep 15, 2002, 11:36 AM
I think we can be pretty clear about the fact that they failed at their goal. I'm not even sure if they even had a proper goal. So I don't think there's any need for discussion?

Chiyu
Sep 15, 2002, 11:46 AM
Newspaz, they haven't failed yet, Bolt and his companions are still fighting, but Bolt's spending less time on RK this week because of the CC festival.

$tilettø
Sep 15, 2002, 12:05 PM
i agree with ns no need to bring this up again

MaGoo
Sep 15, 2002, 12:23 PM
I'm still confused as to why they don't like me.

Trafton AT
Sep 15, 2002, 01:36 PM
Maybe it's that you thought all their attempts to annoy you were funny. :D

Shadow XZ
Sep 15, 2002, 03:30 PM
Well I see why. To be honest, our problem never was solved, because of the fact most of you all thought it was "funny" and so forth. But RK, and DDL will not stop trying to get everyone in equal power.

4I Falcon
Sep 15, 2002, 04:25 PM
But if everyone were of equal power, we'd either have:


no regulators, which means that everything in JJ2 could fall to pieces and no one would be able to do anything about it, because they don't have the power to do so.
too many regulators, which would cause warfare to gain power over one another so but one would be known as Lord of the Game... or something. Or they'd just use their power in increasingly hostile ways agaisnt each other.


Simply put, the human race is a horrific species, always trying to one-up one another, whether in power, intelligence, wit, or otherwise. By power, I mean any kind: rank, ability, or just brute strength. If one was to make all of humankind equal to one another, it would cause even worse chaos then there already is. Imagine if every criminal there was had a car, a CB radio, a pistol, a nightstick, and whatever else the police had, including training. They'd be just as dangerous to the police as the police are to them.

Therefore, equal power is not a good thing. There must be increasing levels of power, and the one(s) at the top must control their subordinates, and those theirs, ad infinitum. Besides, it gives you something to work for, to try to get to the top. Or as high ranking as they possibly could.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

Trafton AT
Sep 15, 2002, 05:19 PM
This is starting to look like the Rebels topic. Again, this is for asking questions, not telling him how he's wrong, which just gets us in another pointless loop.

$tilettø
Sep 15, 2002, 09:43 PM
Which is started by you just close the whole thing

FQuist
Sep 15, 2002, 09:55 PM
1. Can you make a list of all the things the people you are fighting against have done wrong?
2. Do you agree with me that you can't have equal power, as some people are better skilled or nicer, therefore other people will think they are better which means they have more power?(power doesn't exist in an anarchy like jj2, people only have power if others grant you power by thinking you're a good person going to your sites)
3. Do you agree with me that a community site cannot be regulated and protected from people who want to do harm without any leaders?
4. How is making games where you kill some people going to make people believe you?

Chiyu
Sep 15, 2002, 10:19 PM
I don't think that a game or a community needs regulators. Sites and message boards however do. But on Jj2 itself, everybody should be equal.

I think that those kill-Fquist, kill-Dizzy and kill-Shadow games were just for fun, just for amusing the RK members, but not a part of the actual 'revolution'. Ok FQuist, Trafton and I will bring those questions to Bolt.

Newspaz
Sep 15, 2002, 10:30 PM
Oh! We're just talking about JJ2? Then it's simple.

Most people are just friendly and have much fun together because they know eachother. Where did they meet? Well, also pretty simple: here.

So basicly I don't think it's power that makes the difference. I think it are friendships. I think almost everyone over here knows the people that have been around here for quite some time. This helps us while playing the game.


So I think Bolt's problems is: He has friends, but he is jeallous of most people here their friendships.