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atesoRJOL
Oct 21, 2002, 04:51 PM
JOL (JazzOnline clan (acronym as Jazz On Line clan)) is open for members. Our clan site is: http://www.geocities.com/jazzjackrabbito
If you want to join contact me: Roseta_LopRabbit@hotmail.com
We are a sub-clan of UPF (Ultra Peace Force (http://www.geocities.com/jazzjackrabbito/UPF/index.html)). If you are a clan leader/coleader and want your clan to be a sub-clan of UPF, you can contact me. JOL is the leading clan of UPF.

Poaster's note:JOL is more of a battle clan than ctf. We dispise of clan wars.

Trafton AT
Oct 21, 2002, 05:51 PM
Did I miss something or wasn't there already a topic about that JOL needs more members? :\

atesoRJOL
Oct 21, 2002, 06:44 PM
That was some time ago. Itsnt it good to post new ones once and a while so people dont have to go back 10 pages to get to it?:)

Trafton AT
Oct 21, 2002, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
That was some time ago. Itsnt it good to post new ones once and a while so people dont have to go back 10 pages to get to it?:)

Actually, the topic is still on the same page as this one. And, no, it isn't a good idea. It just adds more spam to the message board. If the topic was wanted to continue this long, it would have done so. This is kind of a pointless thread. :P

$tilettø
Oct 22, 2002, 04:48 AM
You dont get it do you??

How many topics about this same subject 2 3 it Doesnt matter how much you post PEOPLE WONT JOIN A CLAN LIKE JOL

Just give up the clan sheesh

You are just trashing it farther down not that it can go any lower./

Derby: Content edit.

atesoRJOL
Oct 22, 2002, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by $tilettø
You dont get it do you??

How many topics about this same subject 2 3 it Doesnt matter how much you post PEOPLE WONT JOIN A CLAN LIKE JOL

Just give up the clan sheesh

You are just trashing it farther down not that it can go any lower./
Perfect example- how many people have to personal attack/flame like that?
I will not give up my clan. Ban me if you like. If you dont want to join JOL you dont need to flame us, you arent any better than us, your clan isnt any better than JOL.

Derby: Previous quotation/Content edit.

Trafton AT
Oct 22, 2002, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
Perfect example- how many people have to personal attack/flame like that?
I will not give up my clan. Ban me if you like. If you dont want to join JOL you dont need to flame us, you arent any better than us, your clan isnt any better than JOL.
This topic is getting a little melodramatic.

The truth is that JOL is getting to be an old clan, and JOL's longetivity is questionable. It's not a personal attack on anyone when a clan dies, and it shouldn't be considered as so. JOL's needing new members is a sign that it is in danger of death. It happens to almost all clans. Give it some time as an inactive clan and it may resurface, just like Gurus of Proactive Warfare. Also, you should recruit more "day players" that have been joining RR (Rapid Rabbits) lately. They seem to be a hot commodity.

I wish you good luck reviving the clan and hope this doesn't turn into an unnecessarily flame war, but it appears that's the rode it's going down right now.

Derby: Previous quotation edit.

atesoRJOL
Oct 22, 2002, 11:34 AM
YOU DONT CALL THIS TOPIC SOMETHING MEANT TO RECRUTE MEMBERS? are you blind?
I wouldnt trust rr even though im not against them.
I am supprised you dont say your clan is older, and you still have members hows that, I know your clans secret and its an evil one, I will post it if I have to.

$tilettø
Oct 22, 2002, 11:49 AM
lol look at your replys
and GpW survived some heavy things and JOL WONT
Because it just isnt like GPW just LET the thing DIE it already is actully imo

People do not want to join JOL with 2 members

Why dont you get that


Learn to trust people also

Derby: Content edit.

ßúññ¥€lmérTbtCC
Oct 22, 2002, 11:53 AM
Stop it,

WHy are u using Ezboard, ezboard SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuux!

(i have sppoken to Roseta and i am going (to try) to make the Jol forums with phpbb)

atesoRJOL
Oct 22, 2002, 12:48 PM
$tiletoo, I have learned not to trust people. JOL isnt the only clan that started with one member!
I got the idea that noone would join any new clans made now, I see this is false. Mabye its just cause alot of people are against me, including some who posted here.

ßúññ¥€lmérTbtCC
Oct 22, 2002, 01:16 PM
Roseta and stiletto stop it.

Its useless. Stop it or a mod/admin wil give both of u a warning and then the war only gets bigger if u really want to swear then plz do it outside of the community (msn/icq) but plz instead of swearing try to make peace....

Chiyu
Oct 22, 2002, 01:39 PM
Starting a clan with 1 member is one thing, but keeping a clan with 1 member forever is another thing.

Fawriel
Oct 22, 2002, 03:00 PM
Shesh,I really start to feel sorry for Roseta!^.^;;
Don't be so mean to her <s>altho I dun like that pic in her sig</s>!!!:o

atesoRJOL
Oct 22, 2002, 04:10 PM
Thanks pic;)

CB you may be right but that doesnt mean JOL cant have more members.

$tilettø
Oct 22, 2002, 09:53 PM
i wont elmer :-P

heh your right CB
How long has this clan been inactive/alive
?

a long time and just look at the members dont even think you can get new members they all want to join an other clan with Good fameous people in it (some want)anyway they dont want to join a clan with 1 people in it or 2

Death to JOL

i feel sad for roseta that she just dont get it and it lowers the level even more down as far as it can go

ßúññ¥€lmérTbtCC
Oct 23, 2002, 03:00 AM
Look al the good/specialk/strong people already have a lcna go play tsf and u get more than 100 members. Or allow multyclanning.

Fawriel
Oct 23, 2002, 03:17 AM
Elmer!
Multiclanning sucks!
It makes clans die!
Just look at some of those articles!

To Roseta,maybe you should train some more to become better,that would give ya more authority!

And,just a question,what is a clan good for that doesn't have clanwars?:confused:
That's what being in a clan is about,ne?:p

And like I always say,a clan must be special to get members!:o

Me,I'm gonna join [TF] cos I like the members!^-^

Fawriel
Oct 23, 2002, 06:01 AM
Oh,yea,I like the website!:D

Unhit
Oct 23, 2002, 11:56 AM
I don't think this topic will help you getting members.

atesoRJOL
Oct 23, 2002, 02:37 PM
Cause of you guys complaining so much and love arguing, Unhit?

I should get tsf soon again..

Clan wars suck! They make you loose members not get more members, even on the winners side!

Trafton AT
Oct 23, 2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
Cause of you guys complaining so much and love arguing, Unhit?

I should get tsf soon again..

Clan wars suck! They make you loose members not get more members, even on the winners side!

First of all, we're getting back to flaming.
Second of all, this is for expressing opinion. If you don't want any negative feedback, then there's really no point in posting here.

As for your third point, freindly clan wars are always fun. If you concentrate on only having members and never have any clan events, you'll lose members.

atesoRJOL
Oct 23, 2002, 03:51 PM
I do not consider having only members, but I consider having members before I add such stuff, and ones that are online at the same time. I still think clan wars suck.

So you think I souldnt post here?

Trafton AT
Oct 23, 2002, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
I do not consider having only members, but I consider having members before I add such stuff, and ones that are online at the same time. I still think clan wars suck.

So you think I souldnt post here?
No, I never said that. I said if you think that you can post something and expect to never get any negative replies, then you will be disappointed. The message board is for expressing opinions, not for only positive feedback. After all, we all learn from mistakes.

atesoRJOL
Oct 23, 2002, 05:33 PM
I dont consider this any mistake of mine, I consider it half the community being fools, and I dont mean my half, like that in real life too you know? If this board is meant for expressing oppinions, why are the admin so strict?

Trafton AT
Oct 23, 2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
I dont consider this any mistake of mine, I consider it half the community being fools, and I dont mean my half, like that in real life too you know? If this board is meant for expressing oppinions, why are the admin so strict?

The administrators aren't as strict as you think. You got content edits, and so did Stiletto. This was because you used swear words in bad context. I'm sure you can express opinions without swearing. As for the mistake part, I meant that if the community has something to say, they can say it, without swears (I'm sure.)

Unhit
Oct 23, 2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
Cause of you guys complaining so much and love arguing, Unhit?


Because all people here are in a clan already. See, all members, e.g. TF got, either asked for joining or have been asked when playing online. This really helps you a lot more.

Originally posted by atesoRJOL
I should get tsf soon again..

Clan wars suck! They make you loose members not get more members, even on the winners side!


Don't think so.

Violet CLM
Oct 23, 2002, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Unhit
Because all people here are in a clan already.

Or don't want to be in one..

Fawriel
Oct 24, 2002, 01:10 AM
Or want to be in one and can't!:o
(like moi,and maybe acid,too,noz sure bout him)

Tik
Oct 24, 2002, 07:15 AM
Roseta, I think you're confusing clan wars with clan feuds...clan feuds are when two clans kind of have some underlying (or very outward) discord between each other and have little fights with members disliking each other. An example of this was probably the fighting between CC and GpW sometimes (though all that was resolved).

Clan wars are when you have many members of 2 different clans having a battle or a competition against each other. If you think that THAT is bad then I'm wondering why you insist on having a clan in the first place. Btw, "clan" is a plural word, like "club". It implies multiplicity, more than one or two, a group. You don't have a clan.

And besides, this is like the 68,318 time you've started a "JOL needs members!" topic, and have you ever gotten any feedback? No? That's what I thought. I hate to discourage you (no wait, that's a lie), but maybe you should give up your JOL B.S. and just join another clan.

I vanish.

Trafton AT
Oct 24, 2002, 11:47 AM
Roseta, I think you're confusing clan wars with clan feuds...clan feuds are when two clans kind of have some underlying (or very outward) discord between each other and have little fights with members disliking each other. An example of this was probably the fighting between CC and GpW sometimes (though all that was resolved).
Exactly. That fued drove me nuts. I had friends in GpW and DM but I was in CC. I didn't want to get in trouble with my clan, but I didn't want to lose my friendship with people like Salamander, who I have known for years. In fact, embarassingly (for Sal), I was his clanleader when he was in his AT days (sr jp cb at.) I had to be undercover about talking with them, and then Wisety really yelled at me for what my clan had done, and I hated it. I can not tell you how glad I was when I heard the news that was over. Clad fueds are terrible, clan wars are proactive and increase the skill and knowledge of those who are in the clan. They aren't as bloodthirsty as they may sound. Heck, at one time, I even hated clan wars.

Clan wars are when you have many members of 2 different clans having a battle or a competition against each other. If you think that THAT is bad then I'm wondering why you insist on having a clan in the first place. Btw, "clan" is a plural word, like "club". It implies multiplicity, more than one or two, a group. You don't have a clan.
Clan wars don't make the clan. The members do. Clans don't have to battle, but it's hard to keep members without doing so.

And besides, this is like the 68,318 time you've started a "JOL needs members!" topic, and have you ever gotten any feedback? No? That's what I thought. I hate to discourage you (no wait, that's a lie), but maybe you should give up your JOL B.S. and just join another clan.[/QUOTES]
That's a little cruel. JOL does severely need members, and they don't really need to be flamed. This is the only point I disagree on. ;P

[QUOTE]I vanish.
As do I.

-Trafton

atesoRJOL
Oct 24, 2002, 12:24 PM
(SWA)

Derby: Severe wide attack removal. Chances are, you do not know or care for the rules here. You will receive a warning for this offense. Refrain from repeating this in the future.

Chiyu
Oct 24, 2002, 01:02 PM
I wonder what she said ;-P

Tell me Derb. :)

Fawriel
Oct 24, 2002, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
(SWA)

Derby: Severe wide attack removal. Chances are, you do not know or care for the rules here. You will receive a warning for this offense. Refrain from repeating this in the future.
O.O
I don't kno what she said,but that must really have been something...
Rosi,yer"love and peace"image isn't very believable when you insult people!:\
I also hate Stiletto,but I don't insult him or anything!
Just try to become better or look for some good members around the servers!
*sigh*

Tik
Oct 24, 2002, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Trafton AT
Clan wars don't make the clan. The members do. Clans don't have to battle, but it's hard to keep members without doing so.


Word.

Actually that's not what I was implying. The sentances about clan wars and about how many people were in a clan weren't co-related. Perhaps I should change that to a new paragraph or something.

Btw, Roseta, you can flame and insult all you want but that doesn't change the facts, it'll just give you a temporary hollow satisfaction and some short-lived self-esteem. The fact that whatever you posted had to be editted completely does nothing but reveal your personal immaturity and lack of sense. Don't get mad at me now, I'm just stating the facts. If you want to have a clan and have it be sucessful and prominent, you're going to have to grow up and not complain all the time and learn to seek out your own personal weak areas so that you can improve on yourself. And for the love of everything held sacred would you please just stop complaining about how everyone hates you or whatever, because it was old before you even started.

I vanish again.

atesoRJOL
Oct 24, 2002, 06:13 PM
What I said wasnt as bad as you think. The only way to get attention around here is swear, dont want to belive that fact? You are the guys being offencieve! I simply posted a thread and then you guys started going against me, they are the ones that should get banned! I didnt swear until they came to cause trouble!

Tik
Oct 24, 2002, 07:28 PM
Way to completely ignore everything I just said. Godo.

Trafton AT
Oct 24, 2002, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
What I said wasnt as bad as you think. The only way to get attention around here is swear, dont want to belive that fact? You are the guys being offencieve! I simply posted a thread and then you guys started going against me, they are the ones that should get banned! I didnt swear until they came to cause trouble!
Swearing? The only way to get attention? Yes, if you want negative attention. Don't swear, it's never necessary.

And I don't really think they should be banned. People pay attention to the administrators and many members (sometimes including me) yet they don't swear. And if they are swearing, don't lower yourself to their level. It's not the one who wins that argument that is truly the winner, it's the one that stops it.

Unhit
Oct 24, 2002, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
What I said wasnt as bad as you think. The only way to get attention around here is swear, dont want to belive that fact? You are the guys being offencieve! I simply posted a thread and then you guys started going against me, they are the ones that should get banned! I didnt swear until they came to cause trouble!

If you thinkt that way, I know why JOL won't ever thrive. Sorry, but that is an attack against this whole community here. How can you get people for your clan (that have to be out of the community!) if you make the community angry which such unnecessary statements?

$tilettø
Oct 24, 2002, 11:07 PM
Amen.

Chiyu
Oct 25, 2002, 12:07 AM
And then everybody is accusing me of sometimes being mean to Roseta on JCF (though we get along well on MSN and JCF).

Well now you know why.

Tik
Oct 25, 2002, 04:09 AM
I'm sorry, but sometimes certain people need reality checks.

Trafton AT
Oct 25, 2002, 05:46 AM
BleH.

This has changed into a pointless argument filled with flaming. It's hard to have a useful conversation when all the parties refuse to stop swearing and personal attacking.

"The true winner is the person who stops the fight."

Tik
Oct 25, 2002, 06:57 AM
The fight may stop, but that doesn't mean the problems will be solved. I'd rather get a solution with flaming that no solution at all, personally.

Super Saiyan
Oct 25, 2002, 07:33 AM
Roseta why dont you just join another clan? I think thats the best, I mean you tried so many things to rescue your clan but it just didnt work, people even started to hate you and your clan, wich gave JOL a bad name. If you keep going on, people will hate you so much that... *cant figure out the rest..* =\

atesoRJOL
Oct 25, 2002, 11:16 AM
You dont know what reality is. If I had to stop JOL I would never be seen on the face of jcf or for that matter jazz2 or by any jazz2 related person, I would probably go as far as saying the game sucked.
So what, whats better with some other games is there are more people so there is always someone else that might or might not be one of you fools, even if you dont know them as well.

NO IF I HAVE TO DO THIS I"ll quit jazz2, stop going to all jazz2 sites, never talk to a jazz2 player again, and block all my contacts.

The good thing about single player is there are no fools to mess with and the job gets done:p

Fawriel
Oct 25, 2002, 11:33 AM
*blinks*
So it's some kinda"question of honour"for you to lead that clan?
Oh...
That's interesting!^_^

Trafton AT
Oct 25, 2002, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
You dont know what reality is. If I had to stop JOL I would never be seen on the face of jcf or for that matter jazz2 or by any jazz2 related person, I would probably go as far as saying the game sucked.
So what, whats better with some other games is there are more people so there is always someone else that might or might not be one of you fools, even if you dont know them as well.

NO IF I HAVE TO DO THIS I"ll quit jazz2, stop going to all jazz2 sites, never talk to a jazz2 player again, and block all my contacts.

The good thing about single player is there are no fools to mess with and the job gets done:p
Uh...So the general idea is you completely abandon JJ2 if JOL breaks up? Well, then you will have to abandon it eventually. As for the blocking contact parts: why? Because they remind you of JJ2? I think that's going overboard to say the least.

Super Saiyan
Oct 25, 2002, 12:20 PM
So what IF you leaved JJ2... do you think people would cry after you? No, definately not. If you want to make some fun before Jazz ends, go join a clan and have fun. Dont stay under stress of your own clan, you wont suprise me if you turn in some kind of a dumb physicial person case (or whatever they call it) after a few months.

*shames for his English =\*

~SPLASH~
Oct 25, 2002, 01:23 PM
My clan broke up. Twice. I'm here. Uhuh!:)

Chiyu
Oct 25, 2002, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Trafton AT

"The true winner is the person who stops the fight."

What's the prize? ;-P

Anyway, Roseta's just on JJ2 to have a clan. She just wants to have a clan, or there's no JJ2 for her.

Tik
Oct 25, 2002, 01:45 PM
....No, Roseta. Give up.

Fawriel
Oct 25, 2002, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
What's the prize? ;-P

Anyway, Roseta's just on JJ2 to have a clan. She just wants to have a clan, or there's no JJ2 for her.
And you know that because...?:o

Chiyu
Oct 25, 2002, 03:34 PM
Because it's so obvious in the way she acts...

I think this topic should be renamed to:
Roseta is desperate for new JOL members

Don't ya agree, Ros? :)

Shadow XZ
Oct 25, 2002, 08:43 PM
Well, I must say that quitting JJ2 isn't nearly as extreme as DDL_Klein's "suicide" attempt... :roll: But Roseta, this is about the fifth time you've posted a topic along these lines, (such as "Join JOL!" or "JOL Needs Members!" etc. We all understand here that JOL needs members, but if you haven't noticed, is that all these topics do is atract flaming, and usually end up in utter chaos. As Spaztic, and many others have said, get on with it. No one will join JOL... Well, no "good" members anyway. So you'd be best off trying to join other clans anyway, IF any of them would even let you in.
Another word of advice, don't make pointless "sub-clan" things such as that UPF thing or whatever. No one really is that serious about "keeping peace in JJ2" or whatever. It's a game, nothing more. If you feel the need to make peace in the world, go join the Peace Corp. :lol: And in the end, if you do indeed to still keep JOL going, don't bother posting stuff on JCF about it. You know the kind of responses you'll get.

MoonBlazE
Oct 27, 2002, 10:58 AM
I'm getting sick of all this negativity.

Nobody likes Roseta's clan or clan ideas.
Nobody really likes JOL.

Maybe its becuse JOL is old, maybe its becuse of the flamewars between clans in JOLs time.

However, I think Roseta should leave JOL and try join a clan herself.

Chiyu
Oct 28, 2002, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by atesoRJOL
You dont know what reality is. If I had to stop JOL I would never be seen on the face of jcf or for that matter jazz2 or by any jazz2 related person, I would probably go as far as saying the game sucked.
So what, whats better with some other games is there are more people so there is always someone else that might or might not be one of you fools, even if you dont know them as well.

NO IF I HAVE TO DO THIS I"ll quit jazz2, stop going to all jazz2 sites, never talk to a jazz2 player again, and block all my contacts.

The good thing about single player is there are no fools to mess with and the job gets done:p

http://feedback.blackisle.com/images/macro/drama.jpg

Trafton AT
Oct 28, 2002, 01:43 PM
This is getting ridiculous. The point here isn't to flame.

$tilettø
Oct 29, 2002, 06:36 AM
CB is just making a point a good one ;d