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[Truthteller]

DDL is not evil....

Hi!
Why do you all think DDL is evil? Well, its not one bit! Here is how the rumors began: DDL is just another clan who thinks some things are unfair, ill tell you what:
You know J2O? Right, its the community website. NO. J2O is trying to brainwash everyone in the JJ2 community. If someone worked so hard and made a site with exactly what J2O has and more, guess what, they wouldnt visit it, they would keep on visiting J2O.
Also, the forum board. Forum boards are for disccusions and messages, just for people to stop by and post a few things. JCF has SO many people posting, like its the official message board. Man, its like if your not on JCF or on J2O, your not part of community. I mean, thats just (toothfairy).
Here Is one thing i know: Crono posted a advertisement of DDL and it was almost what I posted. The admins right away deletedthe post without ONE second though. They are trying to hide the fact that they are trying to make J2O and JCF the community and if the people saw the post they would change their minds about it. Then, rumors formed to keep DDL away from the community, kept away from revealing the truth.
Also, about J2O, the design of the site isnt even that good and people treat it like and official community page, the admins are just brain washing everyone to come to the site all the time. Even if someone made a website twice as better, all of you people would still pick J2O.
Aha, you think DDL is evil cause it lasered and stuff, right? here is why: only cause the people hosting were the J2O nuts, cracks, the people who convinced others to join.
So, for my closing statment, here:
DDL is against the power and brainwashing of J2O. DDL doesnt like Derby, ShadowGPW, Dizzy DM and probably the Admins of J2O and is trying to stop this brainwashing. DDL only lasers the J2O nuts and those kind of people.

I wont reply to this post.
If you delete this topic and ban me, that means your afraid of the truth.

Derby: Content edit.

[Another Jazz 2 fan]

People are loyal to J2O because this is a small community, and we need to stick together. We don't need any other forums or sites. If you disagree, then nobody is stopping you from leaving, but the ways that you choose to 'rebel' are wrong, and accomplish nothing other than getting people to really hate you. So stop wondering why DDL is always banned and people hate them, it is your own doing.

You don't give any reasons why you think J2O is bad, or the admins who run the JCF. I think that you are only trying to get attention, and in a very bad way. There is no reason for it to be like this. Let's face it, DDL is just a group of anarchists looking for attention. None of your justifications for your actions hold any water.

And on J2O being a bad site, it is the best one we have had, and far better than the main site for most communities. AND J2O V2 is on it's way, with improvements recommended by all of us.

~AJ2f

[Tik]

In the name of everything holy can you guys get lives? You're (a replaced word). What <b>if</b> J2O was trying to be the community-based site? Who cares?? Besides, it already is where most of the real Jazz community is at, and it would be even more-so if the people online who aren't involved in j2o heard about it.

TruthTeller, you and all of your friends need to get lives and start thinking with your own heads instead of getting your opinions given to you.

J2o's message board isn't something new. The main Jazz community has always followed sites based upon the message boards. From the EpicGames MessageBoard to the JMMB to UniverseJazz's message board to the JCF. Why would the admins have some scheme for us to all be here? Why would they donate their time, money, and resources into giving us a great fan site? It's not like there's any competition for them to be fighting against!

Sure, the message board's rules are a bit restricting. But get over it. You guys are doing nothing but trying to make yourselves feel better about being pathetic live-less 10 year olds. Go away.

Derby: Content edit.

[Violet CLM]

What is the point of J2O?
Getting levels and information about JJ2.

What is the point of the JCF?
Friendly discussion of JJ2 related topics (and the non-jazz related forums, but nothing's perfect)

Are J2O and JCF official sites?
Not at all. They are community created, as were Jazz 2 City/JMMB and Universe Jazz (the two previous main sites). Yes, they are probably the most popular JJ2 sites. That does not mean everyone visits them, nor that they are somehow forced to visit them.
If people try to get you to visit them, it is (usually) because they have what you are looking for, or something you could use.

You are completely free to create your own site. Depending on how you make, numbers of people will probably like it. Here's a hint - viruses are a No.

[Paul]

Oh...my...goodness. Sit back and think about what you have just said, Truthteller.
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Now that you're laughing hysterically, stop posting this sort of rubbish.

[Paul]

"J2O is brainwashing you"
"J2O is brainwashing you"

you've said it a number of times.

My question is:

what are they brainwashing us to do? Visit their site? If so---I've got some news for you.

If you make a site and say to people : "Hey, because we don't want to brainwash you to come here...go to other sites like mine. That's it, go away."

I'd laugh even harder than I already am.

People LIKE J2O, they LIKE its boards. I'm not being "Brainwashed" by teh BIG SCARY FQUIST to visit.

This is absurd. Leave it be.

[Michael]

I agree (in my opinion) to part of what 'Truthteller' said.....:
J2O has a really crappy layout or whatever its called,
J2O and JCF is most of the communaty but this communaty i see here uses the J in J2O and the J in JCF as a foundation, most of you really dont play JJ2 as much as you use the sites.
There should only be one forum official or not, just a good quality one, because otherewise the communaty would be split i think.
J2O isn't brainwashing us, thats too hard a term and its not J2O either, the communaty in a group is brainwashing itself about what you said.
And what the is DDL? (:

[Aiko]

Heh, Spaztic: did UJ really had a Messageboard?

[KRSplat]

Sounds more like you're trying to brainwash me into beleiving that J2O is brainwashing me. Now, who should I beleive, the friends I trust or this kid who comes here saying that the website I go to is evil.

Trust me, DDL will accomplish NOTHING by crashing JJ2 servers. It simply doesn't work. Now shut the (macaroni and cheese sandwich) up.

(Yes, UJ had a forum. Nobody visited it, though, because the JMMB was still running.)

[Enigma]

This must be about the 27th time DDL says j2o is brainwashing us. So basically, you're trying to brainwash us into thinking that j2o is brainwashing us? Why, how kind of you. If you want to prove your point, go ahead: make a site that's twice as better as j2o. Go on, make it. Then see how many people visit it.

Btw... j2o brainwashing us. Let's suppose that's true for a second. Then tell me: brainwashing us into what? Into not visiting other jj2 sites? Then why would it have such a nice, big links section where you can add your own link any time you like? Besides, it's not like the j2o admins get money every time you go to j2o. On the contrary, they spend money on it. They spend money on the very same forum you just posted on. Would they brainwash you into doing something in real life? That would prove more about the "brainwashed" person than about j2o.

And about DDL lasering only the j2o nuts... that would amount to lasering about 95% of all servers on 1.23, maybe more. You'd be surprised to see how many servers are made by "j2o nuts". If you're against the "power and brainwashing", why do you keep coming here over and over? Wouldn't it be better to start your own little community then?

"Brainwashing" amounts to forcing other people into thinking what you think. Personally, i've never experienced j2o doing this. If you should happen to be referring to possible censorships on this board: those always have a reason. If admins didn't edit offensive posts, this board would turn into a mass fight within days. Besides, j2o is a site for people of all ages, which does require some behaviour rules for the older people around. This, however, looks more like logic than like brainwashing.

[$tilettø]

i would have to agree on Enigma's LONG story -_-

and DDL crashing servers? i didnt see them doing that in a long time other peepz are doing that pretending to be DDL .. /

[Aiko]

Cool, i don't remember that UJ had a messageboard. JazzCentral had one, yes, but UJ? Heh, really? :-)

[Newspaz]

Yes Aiko, they had. For the second time... But noone really moved there anyway since the JMMB was still up in those days.

[Stijn]

Yes. Even Jeh was a member, altough he never posted.

Truthteller, you say you won't reply. That means you won't even try to give some good arguments for your stupid try to brainwash us. Man, shut up. We won't visit a new JJ2 community site (Like SillyWabbits) because there is no need for it! We already have a good site where you can upload stuff and we also have a good forum.
I personally think we can decide for ourselves wether we post here or not. The fact many people are posting here doesn't mean we try to convince everyone this is the official board. It's because it was the only message board about JJ2 after the JMMB closed (afaik).

I think YOU are afraid of the truth. If you weren't, you wouldn't say such a stupid thing like "I won't reply"

- Brainwashed community member =)))))))))))))

[Chiyu]

These DDL statements from Truthteller remind me so much of Bolt's RK ones.. Wow, the resemblance is scary.

- Truthteller, who is DDL's leader? I kinda like all DDL's except Canadian.

- I don't think we need any of this to make our community stick together. People would also play JJ2 on-line even if this site and MB didn't exist (maybe even more, since heaps of people left because of the people from this MB). This isn't a hate-message about JCF, it can be nice sometimes (even for me), but we don't need it either to keep the JJ2 community alive.

- I don't really see this much related to JJ2 anyway. This isn't the community MB at all, the majority of the Jj2 players don't even go or post here.

- I don't think that there are so many 'J2o-nuts' hosting servers on JJ2.. 95% is WAY too high.

- I think that people should be allowed to post here if they want to, but I'm sure that this will never become 'THE' site where everyone in the JJ2 goes to (remember, the real JJ2 community is MUCH larger than the people who post here).

- I don't think the J2o is brainwashing us part should be interpret literally. What Truthteller probably means is that the admins/bosses of JCF/J2o (he gave some names) have (too) much power so they can play boss of some people, and make people see them as bosses of our JJ2 community (which is far from true, btw).

[VelKa]

You guys are JUST TOO HILARIOUS FOR ME. GAH.

STOP BEING HILARIOUS. OR HUG THAT INSANE CLOWN. YES, YOU HEARD ME.

Yeah, seriously; get a life. It's not really interesting to read your (or your DDL friends') cute little DDL rants anymore, Truthteller. So, why don't you children go play UT2k3 or DXMP or JKII or something. Stop being weird, even if you are also totally hilarious. ;-P

<b>If you DDL guys do not cease and desist:</b> 1) ElectroPiZZa and I will kick your butt in UT2k3 and then steal your FISH. Afterwards, 2) Spaztic may have you jig with a marmalade jar on your head, in front of a huge crowd. Then, 3) We will STEAL YOUR PANTSBREAD. AHAAHAHHAA.

Meanwhile,

<img src="http://www.rings-things.com/SUPPLIES/CLOSEOUT/images/44-228.GIF">

PEACE! PEACE! PEACE!


`pranx0rific

[FQuist]

*Swings with watch in front of Truthteller's eyes*

Look into my eyes. You will feel sleepy now. You will do everything I say. You like me.

When I clap my hands, you will like J2O.

*claps*

[Enigma]

Velk has a point here. Follow her advice :p

[Fawriel]

E-Pizza'll have to improve his Mr.Crow comics a LOT to get'm to be more stupid than this...:D

[Turtleslayer]

I suppose I can't reply to this with an unbiased opinion since I'm brainwashed. What a pity.

[MaGoo]

He thinks the J2O is a cult of some sort..

[Trafton]

First of all, the intent of your post is brainwashing. Brainwashing is little more than a harsher word for trying to convince others that your opinion is right. Nothing is forcing us to stay on this website, so it is not brainwashing. You're entitled to your opinion, but the truth is that the only reason DDL exists is to relieve boredom of certain individuals with little better to do. As quasi-spiritual as you make it sound, it's really little more than a group of people who know how to hack causing, or at least attempting to cause, trouble amongst a quite peaceful community that never tried to hurt them in the least bit. You're all entitled to your hatred for various reasons, but that does not mean you are entitled to tell us what to think. That is brainwashing in itself. The design of the site is not evil in any way. It's amazing how well you make an HTML web page sound so Satanic. It isn't. J2O is a simple community web site. Everyone can think what they think, but it becomes different when they take their thoughts to actions that harm others. This includes hacking, attacks against individuals or web sites, attempts to destroy Jazz 2, and everything that DDL has threatened to do and intended to do. DDL is not evil. The people in it just don't know any other way to bring out their frustrations against the community. It's the only way they know. There are little seven year olds playing this game. You're hacking kids. Not evil corporations. Not evil people. You're hacking children who have little else to do in many cases. As much as you think you're "saving" us from the horribleness that is Jazz 2 and Jazz2Online, it is our choice to be here. I am 12 and I have been playing this game since I was 8. Throughout my playing career, I've met plenty of people who despise the game. It is nothing new. When you have a group of people that are interested in something, others will try to ruin it for them. Is it jelousy? Sometimes. But whatever it is, it is wrong. Even if the game was ruined for you by others, that doesn't mean you should ruin it for the innocent community members who have done nothing to you. Don't insult Bobby, FQuist, Derby, and the rest - they donate their time, energy, and money towards something that they don't have to do, and they do their job well. Not perfect, but no one is perfect. As wrong as you think they may be, you have to respect the fact that they are doing the best job they can, and they really do not have to do it, but choose to. They are human, just like you. We're all human. That's what it all comes down to. The answer to these problems is not hate. Hate breeds more hate. It breeds fear. It breeds sorrow. That's not what the game is about. It's about fun. It's about friendship. No hacking program in the world could take that away from us, no matter hard you try.

[Another Jazz 2 fan]

Bravo, Trafton! *applauds his speech*

And, I'd like to add, you say that if you are banned that the admins are afraid of you. I say it is the other way around. You are trying to make them fear banning you by saying that. And they are not afraid to ban you, if you cause any problems, break any rules, or or say anything innapropriate.

You should change your name to LieTeller. No, wait, then you would be telling the truth...

~AJ2f

[Radium]

Yay Trafton! I didn't read your post but it had so many words it had to be correct!

[Newspaz]

My opinion is that people who start this nonsense, just want to be part of J2O. They want to be seen as great. They want to be known. However, power has nothing to do with having friends. In fact, power doesn't exist in in this community. Since everyone is the same. To make a long story short: You guys are control-freaks.

[Feline]

Originally posted by Radium
Yay Trafton! I didn't read your post but it had so many words it had to be correct!

Quite. :)

[KRSplat]

Um. Question. Lieteller said that s/he would not post on this thread again. So whats the point of arguing with nobody? Everybody here agrees that JJ2 is wrong. Although really, even if Lieteller had every other post on this topic, we still have no reason to involve ourselves with this crap. I doubt if we're going to change their mindsets, we're just making them madder.

Or, we could go on ranting about how its wrong. I prefer the latter.

[Derby]

http://beyond2000.com/images/editorial/2000_05/brain.jpg http://www.ems-us.org/newspics/plussign.jpeg http://www.bigfrogmountain.com/Washer.jpg

[Blackraptor]

Lol a brain and a box of cereal, err....A wahshingth mashingh i mean, suroy fer te intripion. Wr wnt GraMR!

[Krezack]

Originally posted by Derby
http://beyond2000.com/images/editorial/2000_05/brain.jpg http://www.ems-us.org/newspics/plussign.jpeg http://www.bigfrogmountain.com/Washer.jpg

0WNED.

[Trafton]

The interesting thing is that I don't think Truthteller is a DDL member at all.

[Radium]

Actually, I think it is Crono. I was talking to him thorugh email asking what DDL was doing. I told him he should post something like he replied on JCF. He said:

Thank you for your feedback, The reasons we dislike J2O, are its overmoddedness: You can't even say the words **** or hell, despite the fact that they are in the game itself, plus if anyone shows any displeasure about anything on J2O, the post is locked or deleated, usually by ShadowGpW, heck, its worse than that, if ShadowGpW doesnt agree with you or is in a bad mood, or if one person says somthing off topic, it's closed or deleated. Another reason is because 99% of the Jazz2 population seem to be completly brainwashed to the point that I can't critisize it without getting flamed, a good example of this are shortly after I came back after a year or more of not playing JJ2 and was in a game I hosted talking to some people about where the heck J2C went they toled me about J2O, and kind of as a way of saying how old I was :P I said somthing along the lines of, yeah I remeber way back then when J2O was nothing, I may have slipped in the discription 'sucked' in there as well, but they imideatly start say things like "how can you say that!", I repeated how it USED to suck, and theyy admitted that, but they had been so blinded by their idolization (ok mabey thats to string a word) of J2O that they didn't even completly see what I was saying. Another occerance of something similar is on my old Jazz Jackrabbit 2, web site in the Links section, I had a small revew/description of each site, in the J2O link I said A cool site with tons of downloads, a cool forum, but an ugly layout; In my guestbook I get the following: "J2O has a very good layout. There is no trouble reaching anything at all." whats wrong with this? first, a guestbook is supposed to be comments about the site its on, not how great another site it, and second, I never said anything about the functionality of the site (though it could be A LOT better if I do say so myself) I just said I found it ugly.
our (mine in particular) reasons for disliking J2O. I invision I jazz2 community site with a nice looking, functional (not full of broken sections/links) layout (though I DO NOT hate J2O because of its layout, its just somthing that could be greatly imporved); that encourages diversity, and doesn't make it impossible for another large fansite to exist; isn't controlled by controll freaks, and respects freedom of opinion and speech (at a reasonable level).
They say that you are free to stay away from J2O, true, if you arn't part of the JJ2 community. They say you are free to make your own website, this is also true, but no one will come. Don't say its because J2O is better, the site itself requires almost no work besides the originaly coding, hosting fees and, moderating, as the content is entirely user generated, and even if one were to somehow copy every single download from J2O onto another site, people would still go to J2O, because, well, its J2O. We at DDL feel that, at this point the only way to solve this problem is to either forcefully convince J2O to change its ways, or to shut them down, or atleast direct people away from them, and start a new site from the ashes. So there you have it; I would greatly aprriciate to here what you ahev to say in response to this email, thanks again for your feedback, and your time.

[Violet CLM]

"Forcefully convince J2O to change its ways"
Which ways? Encouraging other people sending stuff in? Paying to keep itself up?

[Turtleslayer]

Logic is good.

"Went to Saruman for advice about Ring but he had become evil. Nobody tells me anything. Apparently there was a memo."

[Another Jazz 2 fan]

And since the world is such an awful corrupt place, how about we kill everybody on it and start over?

[ElectroPiZZa]

Okay, let's do it. Let's dispense justice. Let me begin by saying that either the JCF has no real conception of the sweep of history, or it is merely intent on winning some debating pin by trying to pierce a hole in my logic with "facts" that are taken out of context. While everybody believes in something, the JCF's simple faith in larrikinism will write off whole sections of society.

Far too many people tolerate the JCF's slogans as long as they're presented in small, seemingly harmless doses. What these people fail to realize, however, is that ancient Greek dramatists discerned a peculiar virtue in being tragic. The JCF would do well to realize that they never discerned any virtue in being brazen. If we contradict the JCF, we are labelled blathering, profligate bourgeoisie. If we capitulate, however, we forfeit our freedoms. The JCF has, at times, called me "fastidious" or "deceitful". Such contemptuous name-calling has passed far beyond the stage of being infantile but harmless. It has the capacity to ignore compromise and focus solely on the JCF's personal agenda.

In a manner of speaking, the JCF talks a lot about irrationalism and how wonderful it is. However, it's never actually defined what it means. How can it argue for something it's never defined? This isn't such an easy question to answer, but let me take a stab at it: Some people think I'm exaggerating when I say that it has announced a number of wicked, ribald ideas on how to run -- or is that ruin? -- everyone's life. But I'm not exaggerating; if anything, I'm understating the situation. What's interesting is that I'll tell you what we need to do about all the craziness the JCF is mongering. We need to encourage our spirits to soar.

I was, however, going to forget about the whole thing when it suddenly occurred to me that the JCF wants to abuse science by using it as a mechanism of ideology. It gets better: It believes that laws are meant to be broken. I guess no one's ever told it that this makes me fearful that I might someday find myself in the crosshairs of its nutty ravings. (To be honest, though, it wouldn't be the first time.) Although the themes in the JCF's wisecracks are limited, it's easy to tell if the JCF is lying. If its lips are moving, it's lying. If you wonder why I take the stance that I do, it's because someone once said to me, "I see myself as a link in the endless chain of generations, with an inescapable responsibility to work together towards a shared vision." This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since. It's inane, confused vandals that make yellow-bellied Marxism possible. I kid you not.

Since most people oppose the JCF's ridiculous bromides, it has had to nourish uncivilized ideologies using every intemperate means imaginable. The JCF accepts superstition for science, hokum and magic for medicine, monotone chanting for music, and lethargic passivity in lieu of discovery and inquiry. It's that simple. The JCF is trying to convince people that their peers are already riding the the JCF bandwagon and will think ill of them if they don't climb aboard, too. Their mission? To irrationalize thinking on every issue. Quite frankly, the JCF's legatees internalize and adapt to the unwritten realities they must work under. Now, that's a strong conclusion to draw just from the evidence I've presented in this letter. So let me corroborate it by saying that the JCF wants to remove society's moral barriers and allow perversion to prosper. Personally, I don't want that. Personally, I prefer freedom. If you also prefer freedom, then you should be working with me to reveal the nature and activity of its loyalists and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims.

Although I respect the JCF's right to free speech just as I respect it for uninformed quacks, dirty snotty-types, and pesky common criminals, there is a simple answer to the question of what to do about its insults. The difficult part is in implementing the answer. The answer is that we must take away as many of its opportunities for mischief as possible. While the JCF has a right, as do we all, to believe whatever it wants about clericalism, if you don't think that much of the noise made on its behalf is generated by arrogant election-year also-rans who seem to have nothing better to do with their time, then you've missed the whole point of this letter. As loathsome as the JCF's hirelings may be, they are also the most amateurish rabble-rousers I've ever seen. The JCF's idea of neo-noxious, mumpish pharisaism is no political belief. It is a fierce and burning gospel of hatred and intolerance, of murder and destruction, and the unloosing of an unsavory blood-lust. It is, in every sense, an irascible and pagan religion that incites its worshippers to an insufferable frenzy and then prompts them to make commercialism socially acceptable.

We should agree on definitions before saying anything further about the JCF's slovenly ideas. For starters, let's say that "obscurantism" is "that which makes the JCF yearn to diminish society's inducements to good behavior." While this country still has far to go before people are truly judged on the content of their character, the JCF intends to create a new social class. Feckless clunks, wayward bullies, and delirious hatemongers will be given aristocratic status. The rest of us will be forced into serving as their operatives.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to detect the subtext of this letter. But just in case it's too subliminal for some, let me thrust it into your face right here: The JCF believes that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. The real damage that this belief causes actually has nothing to do with the belief itself, but with psychology, human nature, and the skillful psychological manipulation of that nature by the JCF and its misguided spokesmen. The JCF's beliefs (as I would certainly not call them logically reasoned arguments) manifest themselves in two phases. Phase one: steal our birthrights. Phase two: strip the world of conversation, friendship, and love.

How I pity the JCF if I were to be its judge. I would start by notifying the jury that the JCF engages in pietistic babble that nauseates even some of my more religious friends. Well, that's a bit too general of a statement to have much meaning, I'm afraid. So let me instead explain my point as follows: There is another side to the issue. Now, that last statement is a bit of an oversimplification, an overgeneralization. But it is nevertheless substantially true. It would please the JCF greatly to interfere with the most important principles of democracy. So don't feed me any phony baloney about how it should glorify the things that everyone else execrates because "it's the right thing to do". That's just not true.

My general thesis is that we must understand that the JCF hurts people wherever they may be, penthouse or poorhouse. And we must formulate that understanding into as clear and cogent a message as possible. I'll talk a lot more about that later, but first let me finish my general thesis: The JCF's game is to undermine the basic values of work, responsibility, and family. Period, finis, and Q.E.D. For proof of this ongoing tragedy, one has only to realize that if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less contemptuous than the JCF. I don't mean to imply that debauched protestors like the JCF are all alike, but it's true, nonetheless. I may not be perfect, but at least I'm not afraid to say that I try never to argue with the JCF, because it's clear it's not susceptible to reason. The foundation and wellspring of the JCF's litanies is the demonic doctrine of fanaticism. As long as I live, I will be shouting this truth from rooftops and doing everything I can to stick to the facts and offer only those arguments that can be supported by those facts. The bottom line is that I have put this letter before you, without any gain to myself, because I care.

[Trafton]

<Note to whoever is editing this for some reason: This is not actually my opinion, nor is it true. Please do not edit it, as this is simply a randomly-generated complaint from the Random Complaint Generator. It has no relevancy beyond randomness. Like ElectroPiZZa, I just wish to see the reaction to such a post. ;P>
For those who know me, they know it is a rare occurrence for me to be rendered speechless. But when I heard that the JCF wants to break down the industrial-technological system, I must say that speechless I was. With this letter, I hope to take stock of what we know, identify areas for further research, and provide a useful starting point for debate on its infernal treatises. But first, I would like to make the following introductory remark: It is a pretty good liar most of the time. However, it tells so many lies, it's bound to trip itself up someday. Double standards are always disruptive. Think I'm exaggerating? Just ask any of the most valuable members of our community, and they'll all tell you how the JCF's intent is to prevent us from asking questions. It doesn't want the details checked. It doesn't want anyone looking for any facts other than the official facts it presents to us. I wonder if this is because most of its "facts" are false.

Fortunately, most people understand that it is not uncommon for the JCF to victimize the innocent, penalize the victim for making any effort to defend himself, and then paint the whole mawkish affair as some great benefit to humanity. The JCF refuses to come to terms with reality. It prefers instead to live in a fantasy world of rationalization and hallucination. I oppose the JCF's practices because they are vapid. I oppose them because they are iconoclastic. And I oppose them because they will add insult to injury sometime soon. Only the JCF could possibly think that newspapers should report only on items it agrees with. Never forget that and never let it take advantage of human fallibility to take control of a nation and suck it dry.

[Unhit]

I have the strange feeling someone else here has been brainwashed ;). Seriously. Why do you think we are brainwashed? Just because we are angry on DDL, and that out of several reasons? DDL is angry on the J2O admins WITHOUT a reason. Read other replies, I think I don't need to repeat.

[EvilMike]

I have facts for those who think and arguments for those who reason. Without going into all the gory details, let's just say that it has been brought to my attention that I would like to register my strong objection to DDL's excuses. While this is indeed true, DDL says that this is the best of all possible worlds and that it is the best of all possible organizations. But then it turns around and says that anyone who dares to deal summarily with self-satisfied geeks can expect to suffer hair loss and tooth decay as a result. You know, you can't have it both ways, DDL. If you look soberly and carefully at the evidence all around you, you will indisputably find that DDL is perfectly willing to show its embarrassingly poor reasoning and warped ethics in print. Now that that's cleared up, I'll continue with what I was saying before, that there is an implicit assumption here that I confess that unpleasant drug addicts often act with a mob mentality. That said, let me continue. While DDL is undeniably entitled to ignore good advice from intelligent people, it should learn to appreciate what it has instead of feeling so oppressed because it can't do everything it wants, every time it wants to. Naturally, DDL's tricks are designed to force us to do things or take stands against our will. And they're working; they're having the desired effect.

While there is inevitable overlap at the edges of political movements, we are at a crossroads. One road leads into the light of a bright, shining future in which debauched, despicable scalawags like DDL are thoroughly absent. The other road leads into the darkness of careerism. The question, therefore, is: Who's driving the bus? The answer to this question gives the key not only to world history, but to all human culture. I must point out that I recently informed DDL that its hangers-on win support by encapsulating frustrations and directing them toward unpopular scapegoats. DDL said it'd "look further into the matter." Well, not too much further; after all, those of us who are too lazy or disinterested to break the neck of DDL's policy of demagogism once and for all have no right to complain when it and its legatees woo over cranky saboteurs by using tactics such as scapegoating, reductionist and simplistic solutions, demagoguery, and a conspiracy theory of history.

(The merits of DDL's screeds won't be discussed here, because they lack merit.) Even though DDL presents a public face that avoids overt quislingism, it has found a way to avoid compliance with government regulations, circumvent any further litigation, and toss sops to the egos of the petty -- all by trumping up a phony emergency. To tolerate DDL's brown-nosing, pompous propositions simply because they're not packaged and sold as libidinous is to transform our society into a dim-witted war machine. We must also assert with all the sincerity of informed experience and the desperate desire to see our beloved country survive that DDL maintains that either the sun rises just for it or that it is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. DDL denies any other possibility. We must overcome the fears that beset us every day of our lives. We must overcome the fear that DDL will rely on the psychological effects of terror to magnify the localized effects of its claims so that, like a stone hurled into a pool of water, shock waves ripple from the epicenter of DDL's attacks to the furthest reaches of the Earth. And to overcome these fears, we must bring a fresh perspective and new ideas to the current debate.

Having already explained that DDL's quips are a ticking time bomb, set to kill the goose bearing the golden egg, let me now state that few people realize that the only way for DDL to redeem itself is to stop being so lousy. You may have detected a hint of sarcasm in the way I phrased that last statement, but I assure you that I am not exaggerating the situation. When I state that it would sure be nice if DDL could present its case without resorting to yellow journalism, I'm merely trying to fight for what is right. When I say that I disagree both with DDL's point and with the way it makes it, I don't just mean that it wants to propitiate the most complacent exhibitionists you'll ever see for later eventualities, that it wants to burn books, or that it wants to trample over the very freedoms and rights that it claims to support. Sure, DDL undoubtedly wants all that, but it also wants much more. It wants to replace love and understanding with anarchism and neopaganism. While snippy, incompetent knee-biters claim to defend traditional values, they actually equip contemptuous slimeballs with flame throwers, hand grenades, and heat-seeking missiles.

DDL is trying to practice human sacrifice on a grand scale in some sort of vulgar death cult. Their mission? To lead us, lemminglike, over the precipice of self-destruction. When asked to mend its ways, DDL will give people a wink and a smile, but when the wheels begin to turn, it's business as usual. If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. As a consistently mortified observer of DDL's contrivances, I can't help but want to honor our nation's glorious mosaic of cultures and ethnicities. I definitely hate having to keep reminding everybody of this, but we need to look beyond the most immediate and visible problems with DDL. We need to look at what is behind these problems and understand that if we're to effectively carry out our responsibilities and make a future for ourselves, we will first have to contribute to the intellectual and spiritual health of the body politic.

It seems ironic that I find much to disagree with in DDL's ultimata, given that its lies come in many forms. Some of its lies are in the form of newsgroup postings. Others are in the form of exegeses. Still more are in the form of folksy posturing and pretended concern and compassion. Can you really blame me for suggesting that DDL is incapable of writing a letter without using such phrases as "useless infernal-types", "gin-swilling, savage maniacs", "lecherous loons", or some combination thereof? We must tackle the multinational death machine that DDL is currently constructing. If we don't, future generations will not know freedom. Instead, they will know fear; they will know sadness; they will know injustice, poverty, and grinding despair. Most of all, they will realize, albeit far too late, that DDL's premise (that profits come before people) is its morality disguised as pretended neutrality. DDL uses this disguised morality to support its bons mots, thereby making its argument self-refuting.

DDL's yes-men portray themselves as fervent believers in freedom of speech and expression, but are loath to reveal that DDL is immovably entrenched in its irritable philosophical positions. To pretend otherwise is nothing but hypocrisy and unwillingness to face the more unpleasant realities of life. One indication of this is the fact that DDL's ebullitions are continually evolving into more and more profligate incarnations. Here, I'm not just talking about evolution in a simply Darwinist sense; I'm also talking about how DDL thumbs its nose at some of the very things I treasure. Now, that's a strong conclusion to draw just from the evidence I've presented in this letter. So let me corroborate it by saying that DDL's emissaries feel that "DDL understands the difference between civilization and savagery." First off, that's a lousy sentence. If they had written that DDL accepts superstition for science, hokum and magic for medicine, monotone chanting for music, and lethargic passivity in lieu of discovery and inquiry, then that quote would have had more validity. As it stands, this is a lesson for those with eyes to see. It is a lesson not so much about DDL's dodgy behavior, but about the way that DDL's philippics will have consequences -- very serious consequences. And we ought to begin doing something about that. Irrespective of one's feelings on the subject, at no time in the past did scummy common criminals shamble through the streets of cities, demanding rights they imagine some supernatural power has bestowed upon them. DDL proclaims at every opportunity that it'd never encumber the religious idea with too many things of a purely earthly nature and thus bring religion into a totally unnecessary conflict with science. The organization doth protest too much, methinks.

Here's an extraordinary paradox: All of the devious sideshow barkers who shouldn't be allowed to lead a meretricious jihad against those who oppose DDL invariably want to. One could truthfully say that DDL's threats are part and parcel of a larger game plan to promote racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. But saying that would miss the real point, which is that in asserting that genocide, slavery, racism, and the systematic oppression, degradation, and exploitation of most of the world's people are all totally justified, it demonstrates an astounding narrowness of vision. DDL's arguments would be a lot more effective if they were at least accurate or intelligent, not just a load of bull for the sake of being controversial.

DDL is locked into its present course of destruction. It does not have the interest or the will to change its fundamentally intellectually stultified doctrines. DDL's secret agents perpetrate all kinds of atrocities while alleging that they are simply not capable of such activities and that therefore, the atrocities must be the product of my and your feverish and overworked imaginations. However much DDL may deny it, ancient Greek dramatists discerned a peculiar virtue in being tragic. DDL would do well to realize that they never discerned any virtue in being lazy. This is equivalent to saying that if the human race is to survive on this planet, we will have to do something good for others.

[EvilMike]

I wanted to respond to Trafton earlier, but I was so busy, I simply did not have the time. Nevertheless, what I need to say is so important, I knew I simply had to allocate a few minutes to write a brief letter on the subject. There are a number of reasons Trafton isn't telling us as to why he wants to champion censorship in the name of free speech, intolerance in the name of tolerance, and oppression in the name of freedom. In this letter, I will expose those reasons one-by-one, on the principle that if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem. He says that his prank phone calls are Right with a capital R. Wow! Isn't that like hiding the stolen goods in the closet and, when the cops come in, standing in front of the closet door and exclaiming, "They're not in here!"?

When you tell Trafton's helpers that Trafton's few positive contributions will continue to be overshadowed by his broader message of hate, they begin to get fidgety, and their eyes begin to wander. They really don't care. They have no interest in hearing that all the deals he makes are strictly one-way. Trafton gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations. Is it not positively the distinguishing feature of his ramblings to wage a clandestine guerilla war against many basic human rights? There are rumors circulating that Trafton is dead set on defending his position against what I have to say, regardless of what I have to say, so let me just clarify something: Trafton would have us believe that genocide, slavery, racism, and the systematic oppression, degradation, and exploitation of most of the world's people are all completely justified. Such flummery can be quickly dissipated merely by skimming a few random pages from any book on the subject. I find that I am embarrassed. Embarrassed that some people don't realize that his smear tactics always follow the same pattern. He puts the desired twist on the actual facts, ignores inconvenient facts, and invents as many new "facts" as necessary to convince us that two wrongs make a right. Look at it from my point of view: Trafton is not interested in what is true and what is false or in what is good and what is evil. In fact, those distinctions have no meaning to him whatsoever. The only thing that has any meaning to Trafton is Marxism. Why? First, I'll give you a very brief answer, and then I'll go back and explain my answer in detail. As for the brief answer, almost every day, Trafton outreaches himself in setting new records for arrogance, deceit, and greed. It's honestly breathtaking to watch him.

His smears symbolize lawlessness, violence, and misguided rebellion -- extreme liberty for a few, even if the rest of us lose more than a little freedom. Just to add a little more perspective, it takes more than a mass of patronizing hucksters to make efforts directed towards broad, long-term social change. It takes a great many thoughtful and semi-thoughtful people who are willing to reinforce what is best in people.

I could go on and on about Trafton's special form of unilateralism, but you get the general idea. Was Trafton just trying to be cute when he said that his practices are a breath of fresh air amid our modern culture's toxic cloud of chaos? I sure hope so, because anyone who hasn't been living in a cave with his eyes shut and his ears plugged knows that I've heard of villainous things like egotism and pharisaism. But I've also heard of things like nonviolence, higher moralities, and treating all beings as ends in and of themselves -- ideas which his ignorant, unthinking, militant brain is too small to understand.

Please don't misinterpret that last statement to mean that the only way to expand one's mind is with drugs -- or maybe even chocolate. That's not at all what it means. Rather, it means that he appears to have found a new tool to use to help him support hostile governments known for human rights abuses, wrongful imprisonment, and slavery. That tool is particularism, and if you watch him wield it, you'll undoubtedly see why he just keeps on saying, "I don't give a [expletive deleted] about you. I just want to blend together expansionism and plagiarism in a train wreck of monumental proportions." I am deliberately using colorful language in this letter. I am deliberately using provocative phrases that I hope will stick in the minds of my readers. I do ensure, however, that my words are always appropriate and accurate and clearly explain how Trafton's tricks are not an abstract problem. They have very concrete, immediate, and unpleasant consequences. For instance, Trafton has stated that obscene litterbugs are inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive. One clear inference from that statement -- an inference that is never really disavowed -- is that cannibalism, wife-swapping, and the murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior. Now that's just morally questionable.

Trafton's contrivances don't accomplish anything useful, because they don't deal with the real issue. The real issue is that I am not trying to save the world -- I gave up that pursuit a long time ago. But I am trying to step back and consider the problem of Trafton's wisecracks in the larger picture of popular culture imagery. I hope that Trafton regrets what he has done. That said, let me continue.

I, for one, am flat-out tired of his psychological bullying. It's that simple. Though I am unequivocally not a proponent of conflict, Trafton claims that the most valuable skill one can have is to be able to lie convincingly. I feel that the absurdities within that claim speak for themselves, although I should add that Trafton contends that his opinions represent the opinions of the majority -- or even a plurality. Excuse me, but where exactly did this little factoid come from? Judging by the generally abusive nature of his legates, I can see that his assistants are unified under a common goal. That goal is to numb the public to the Fabianism and injustice in mainstream politics. Guess what? Trafton can't possibly believe that university professors must conform their theses and conclusions to his prurient prejudices if they want to publish papers and advance their careers. He's stupid, but he's not that stupid.

His cronies contend that we can all live together happily without laws, like the members of some 1960s-style dope-smoking commune. I say to them, "Prove it" -- not that they'll be able to, of course, but because Trafton says that he should display an irreconcilable hatred toward all nations because "it's the right thing to do". This is at best wrong. At worst, it is a lie. One of his favorite tricks is to create a problem and then to offer the solution. Naturally, it's always his solutions that grant him the freedom to use lethal violence as a source of humor, never the original problem. Maybe it's just me, but don't you think that Trafton's analects are priggism at its worst? The pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to challenge Trafton's sanctimonious assumptions about merit?

You may be wondering why what I call useless evil-doers latch onto Trafton's views. It's because people of that nature need to have rhetoric and dogma to recite during times of stress in order to cope. That's also why if Trafton doesn't like it here, then perhaps he should go elsewhere. Aside from the fact that we should act and act fast, to get even the simplest message into the consciousness of noxious, vexatious weirdos, it has to be repeated at least 50 times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following 50 times, but he will probably never understand why he scares me so much. And Trafton does scare me: His cop-outs are scary, his slurs are scary, and most of all, his long-term goals reek of credentialism. I use the word "reek", because he insists that he defends the real needs of the working class. This fraud, this lie, is just one among the thousands he perpetrates.

What Trafton apparently fails to realize is that he has written volumes about how he has his moral compass in tact. Don't believe a word of it, though. The truth is that if he can overawe and befuddle a sufficient number of prominent individuals, then it will become virtually impossible for anyone to purge the darkness from his heart. Some of us have an opportunity to come in contact with contemptuous curmudgeons on a regular basis at work or in school. We, therefore, may be able to gain some insight into the way they think, into their values; we may be able to understand why they want to diminish our will to live. Alright, enough of that. Now let's talk about something else. Let's talk about how Trafton tries to make us think the way he wants us to think, not by showing us evidence and reasoning with us, but by understanding how to push our emotional buttons. It is high time for someone to act honorably. Will that someone be you?

[MoonBlazE]

We should be gracefull for people like EvilMike, Trafton, Bobby aka Dizzy, FQuist is here, even wants to be here, sending their time and money at us.
Nobody ever asked them to do it, and you DDL people "rebel" against them, against a community of a game.
You acouse them for brainwash us, how, how can they brainwash us? It's only text. Common, that's the most lame thing I ever heard.

If DDL is the savers, how to come they cheat in servers? They chrash servers? They spam attack the communitys forums?
I belive on DDL is right in their concept as much as I belive on Santa.
Now, please, gvie up your silly concept and let us alone, if they brainwash us, then let them do it. We can't do for you got banned, because it's your own fault you got banned.

[Michael]

And what is DDL?

[Radium]

Originally posted by Nitro
And what is DDL?
I'm beginning to think it's a trick by educators to get kids to write more.

[Aiko]

Radium: ROFL!! & High Five.

[Chiyu]

Originally posted by Moonblaze
We should be gracefull for people like EvilMike, Trafton, Bobby aka Dizzy, FQuist is here, even wants to be here, sending their time and money at us.
Nobody ever asked them to do it, and you DDL people "rebel" against them, against a community of a game.
You acouse them for brainwash us, how, how can they brainwash us? It's only text. Common, that's the most lame thing I ever heard.

If DDL is the savers, how to come they cheat in servers? They chrash servers? They spam attack the communitys forums?
I belive on DDL is right in their concept as much as I belive on Santa.
Now, please, gvie up your silly concept and let us alone, if they brainwash us, then let them do it. We can't do for you got banned, because it's your own fault you got banned.

This isn't the community of a game (anymore). Maybe for a small part it still is.

DDL means Digital Destroyers League...

I talked to Piccolo about this he says he doesn't know who Truthteller is.

[Tik]

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
I talked to Piccolo about this he says he doesn't know who Truthteller is. You probably thought you were talking to Piccolo, but in reality you were talking to Piccolo. Or perhaps even Piccolo.

[VelKa]

I'm telling you. It's Mr. Crow's fault. Mr. Crow is behind this HILARIOUS MESS. ;-P

----

Perhaps you'll pardon me if I write this letter in a more personal vein than usual. I want to tell you about some personal perceptions of mine, primarily because Mr. Crow is possessed by the devil. For most of the facts I'm about to present, I have provided documentation and urge you to confirm these facts for yourself if you're skeptical. I am being completely serious when I say that his zingers cannot stand on their own merit. That's why they're dependent on elaborate artifices and explanatory stories to convince us that antidisestablishmentarianism is a viable and vital objective for our nation's educational institutions.

I use such language purposefully -- and somewhat sardonically -- to illustrate how he does not tolerate any view that differs from his own. Rather, Mr. Crow discredits and discards those people who contradict him along with the ideas that they represent. The essential point, however, is the following: All the deals he makes are strictly one-way. Mr. Crow gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations. We all need to be aware of each other's existence as intelligent, feeling, human beings, even if some of us are surly saboteurs. He can't possibly believe that he is a paragon of morality and wisdom. He's stupid, but he's not that stupid.

Even when the facts don't fit, Mr. Crow sometimes tries to use them anyway. He still maintains, for instance, that those who disagree with him should be cast into the outer darkness, should be shunned, should starve. Again, his attempts to open the gates of hell are much worse than mere exhibitionism. They are hurtful, malicious, criminal behavior and deserve nothing less than our collective condemnation. But I digress. I must ask that Mr. Crow's janissaries anneal discourse with honesty, clear thinking, and a sense of moral good. I know they'll never do that, so here's an alternate proposal: They should, at the very least, back off and quit trying to force us to tailor our actions just to suit his neo-duplicitous whims.

Maybe it's just me, but don't you think that Mr. Crow bickers and argues over petty things? While perhaps offensive to some readers, only a direct quote can fully convey the ill-bred, cuckoo nature and content of his scribblings: "Attention, helpers! Your orders are to exploit the feelings of charity and guilt that many people have over the plight of the homeless, and to do so at any cost." Every time he utters or writes a statement that supports parasitism -- even indirectly -- it sends a message that his undertakings won't be used for political retribution. I surely claim we mustn't let him make such statements, partly because there is an open consensus that by excluding any possibility of comparison, he can easily pass off his own values as works of genius, but primarily because once people obtain the critical skills that enable them to think and reflect and speculate independently, they'll realize that we could opt to sit back and let Mr. Crow influence the attitudes of dominant culture towards any environment or activity that is predominantly muddleheaded. Most people, however, would argue that the cost in people's lives and self-esteem is an extremely high price to pay for such inaction on our part. Mr. Crow's satraps are brainwashed automatons programmed to spout line after line of pro-Mr. Crow propaganda. Although others may disagree with that claim, few would dispute that Mr. Crow and his apparatchiks are unscrupulous flakes. This is not set down in complaint against them, but merely as analysis.

One might conclude that he has no ground and no right to reduce social and cultural awareness to a dictated set of guidelines to follow. Alternatively, one might conclude that it has been, and is, my great undertaking to get him off our back. In either case, I am reminded of the quote, "There is no question that we are becoming a nation of insufferable profiteers." This comment is not as bestial as it seems, because I wonder if Mr. Crow really believes the things he says. He knows they're not true, doesn't he? I don't pretend to know the answer, but I do know that I would indisputably like to comment on Mr. Crow's attempt to associate Fabianism with unilateralism. There is no association. There are situations where certain politics are appropriate and there are situations where they are not. Let me end by appealing to our collective sense of humanity: Mr. Crow's forces assume that because they look a certain way or come from a certain background, they have an inalienable right to authorize, promote, celebrate, and legitimize loathsome mandarinism.


Sincerely,

ANONYMOUS

[MoonBlazE]

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
This isn't the community of a game (anymore). Maybe for a small part it still is.
DDL means Digital Destroyers League...
I talked to Piccolo about this he says he doesn't know who Truthteller is. I am seriously tired of your negative comments always, this community are based on Jazz Jackrabbbit, and it's a Jazz Jackrabbit community whenever you feel it so or not. You just pull too much weight on the non-releated Jazz boards.
Who should deside if this community is releated to Jazz2 enough? You?
So you talked to Piccolo? Did you try convert him? Or did you back him up? What do you hide?

Sorry for this negativity, but I am really (mad on) Craccoboy.

Derby: Content replacement/fix.

Moonblaze: Grammar fix. Silly Derby. ;-P

[Super Saiyan]

LOL? Truthteller!??!?!?! Man that's 105% (incorrect) what you have wroten. You just have wasted your time writing that. I slowly start to believe you're a lieteller than a truthteller.


@ MB: Yeah, you're right. That might be bit negative but sometimes CraccoBoy also says useful things IMO. Most times things wich most people don't dare to say.

Derby: Content replacement.

[Super Saiyan]

Originally posted by Truthteller

Here Is one thing i know: Crono posted a advertisement of DDL and it was almost what I posted. The admins right away deletedthe post without ONE second though. They are trying to hide the fact that they are trying to make J2O and JCF the community and if the people saw the post they would change their minds about it. Then, rumors formed to keep DDL away from the community, kept away from revealing the truth.

here, the topic is still up and still I didn't see any persons who turned their back against J2O/JCF.
Man, you DDL's are really (think of a good description; everyone feels the same way). At first you peeps mess up stuff and some time later they come back with some lame excuse to forgive them. And after it didn't succeed you people start to attack people and J2O/JCF. Just (go away) man.

Derby: Personal attack/Severe filter bypass removal. Do not do this again.

[Trafton]

The previous post was not actually my opinion. I have my reasons for posting it. I just wanted to see how people would react to such a post. Even though it was randomly generated, it seems more relevant to reality than DDL's complaints. This entire topic is pretty funny. The truth is DDL has done more damage through misconceptions and the wasted time of everyone who has posted or even viewed this topic than through actual violent outbursts toward individuals and/or groups. There have been many threats, but very little has actually happened. It is important to remember that this is, just like any other thread, serious. Still, these threats must be taken with a grain of salt. Their outlandish raves about the destruction of the community are as improbable as they are ill-concieved. The simple fact is that no one can possibly destroy the community at such a physical level. The only way to destroy the community is to make the community unwilling to play and be friends with eachother any longer, which takes a greatly higher amount of effort than DDL can possibly muster. I find what they are basing their threats on funny. In fact, I seriously doubt that these are the actual reasons. Rather, they are probably coverups for some deeper and more complex sort of hate versus the community. Several members have casually mentioned their motives, none of which are because J2O is overused. They are individual and unfortunate reasons, but they aren't an excuse for what they are threatening. DDL can do damage. Any group can. But not as much as they want. What they really want is attention. And they certainally are getting plenty of it. Like schoolyard bullies, they aren't just attacking randomly - they are attacking because of personal reasons. They may not seem big, but they were big enough to turn them against the community. And that is what really saddens me about this situation. As benign as DDL is, it should be watched like any other Anti-Jazz group. However, you should not let them force you to live in terror. That's exactly what they want, and exactly what we shouldn't let them have.

[Another Jazz 2 fan]

Do you people have some kind of HUGE speech generator or something? What is going on here??? Humongous speeches, so long that they lose all real meaning... there is no way anybody would waste that amount of time. I repeat, what is going on? Let me in on it...

~AJ2f

[Trafton]

Originally posted by Another Jazz 2 fan
Do you people have some kind of HUGE speech generator or something? What is going on here??? Humongous speeches, so long that they lose all real meaning... there is no way anybody would waste that amount of time. I repeat, what is going on? Let me in on it...

~AJ2f
Yes, there is one that I was using for the "anti-JCF letter." However, all of the rest of my posts were quite real. :P

[Fawriel]

Maybe some people DID turn their backs on J2O...

Maybe I knew exactly if I UNDERSTOOD all those posts!:p
Like E-Pizza's and Velk's...

I dun understand why nobody replyed to EvilMike's posts.
Is it just that nobody reads such long posts (except me and a few others who WRITE'm as well!:D) or does nobody find any good arguments?^^;

Well I dun think I can add anything,I just think Miky is sorta overreacting...^_^;;;
I dun think Trafton is an evil genius that's trying to be cute and...*brainoverload*:p

[ShadowGPW]

lamer :\

[Another Jazz 2 fan]

LOL. Funny picture there, but you might have to censor the bottom of it...

[ShadowGPW]

Dizzy lamer :P

[Enigma]

I almost got a seizure from reading all those huge posts. What was shad's picture about btw?

Edit: oh that. seen it tons of times before. still funny though :p

[Blackraptor]

Well, this will never be solved. Why are you people arguing so much, you wont convince anyone. Truthteller has an opinion of his, and he stubbornly sticks to it no matter what we say. We cannot convince truly dedicated people. Maybe truthteller thinks we are being mean to DDL, as if they have not bothered us in any way but we just dont like how they act or something so we leave them out etc. Well, that is not the point. DDL has done many bad things, and had lots of chances for forgivness, which they didnt take. The people act inappropriately online and do cruel things for no reason except that "we sux" andthat "i am bored". Well, DDL is not mistreated just because we dont like their nickname or because we have to mistreat someone, its because they have done lots of bad things and ruined their reputation. If they would of acted normally and controlled their behaviour, we would probably had made good friends with them. But the people in DDL themselves choose what they wanted to do. If they chose to hate us rather than to befriend us, that is their problem. We dont force them to like us. We dont swing a pendelum in front of their eyes saying "Like us, join us". We leave the choice up to them. And if they chose to hate us, that is their problem not ours. So DDL chose to take the road to darkness instead of light. True they can still make up for all they did, but it doesnt seem that they have any thread of forgiveness in their mind right now, and are most likely proud/dont care of all the sins they did.

True, no one is perfect. I am not even close to being perfect, in fact, none of us are perfect. Each of us have something to improve and for DDL it is their personality and temper or so it seems. Well, maybe truthteller thought DDL was bullied by us, but rather, we were first bullied by them. Anywayz, this topic os pointless and the argument is pointless, since we are apparently arguing with not DDL, not Truthteller, but ourselves. Their is no one to defend DDL's point of view in this thread, so no one can make good points or description for DDL's point of view. This topic is just for poeple to basically say why they hate DDL, which is mean. I try my best to ignore DDL, and i dont truly hate them. Everyone deserves a chance.

There fore, the only thing this topic causes is for us to get better in writing and Grammar class, and for us to waste usless time and get headaches reading excessively long posts like EvilMikes. ;P

Anywayz, thats my opinion, make fun of me if you wish.

[Trafton]

I think that picture is a bit tasteless, censored or not.

[EvilMike]

I realize that everyone is entitled to his opinion, and I respect this. I also hope that you will all respect mine as you read this letter. Let's get down to brass tacks: What I take much more seriously than hotheaded scoundrels are the worst types of amateurish scrubs I've ever seen. I'll say that again, because I want it to sink in: Shadow GPW functions not as a social critic, but as an unoriginal imitator of the ruling ideologues. The blatant ignorance and social maladjustment of his claims will force me to undergo "treatment" to cure my "problem" faster than you can say "philodestructiveness". Now, I could go off on that point alone, but he likes thinking thoughts that aren't burdensome and that feel good. That's why Shadow pompously claims that his opinions represent the opinions of the majority -- or even a plurality. That sort of nonsense impresses many people, unfortunately. As amazing as it seems, Shadow holds onto power like the eunuch mandarins of the Forbidden City -- sterile obstacles to progress who prepare the ground for an ever-more vicious and brutal campaign of terror. Do you think I'm the only one who wants to demand a thoughtful analysis and resolution of our problems with Shadow? I assure you, I am not. But it's easy enough to hate Shadow any day of the week on general principles. But now I'll tell you about some very specific things that Shadow is up to, things that ought to make a real Shadow-hater out of you. First off, if you are not smart enough to realize this, then you become the victim of your own ignorance.

He is not just stupid. He is unbelievably, astronomically stupid. Griping about Shadow will not make him stop trying to gag the innocent accused from protesting authoritarianism-motivated prosecutions. But even if it did, he would just find some other way to prevent me from sleeping soundly at night.

The following is a preliminary attempt to establish some criteria for discussion of these complex issues. To begin with, some people say that that isn't sufficient evidence to prove that he is secretly scheming to elevate his put-downs to prominence as epistemological principles. And I must agree; one needs much more evidence than that. But the evidence is there, for anyone who isn't afraid to look at it. Just look at the way that when people say that bigotry and hate are alive and well, they're right. And Shadow is to blame. I maintain it's important to continue discussing this even after I've made my point, because his perspective is that space aliens are out to lay eggs in our innards or ooze their alien hell-slime all over us. My perspective, in contrast, is that I believe I have finally figured out what makes people like Shadow make our lives a living hell. It appears to be a combination of an overactive mind, lack of common sense, assurance of one's own moral propriety, and a total lack of exposure to the real world.

He talks loudly about family values and personal responsibility, but when it comes to backing up those words with actions, all Shadow does is tip the scales in his favor. The tone of his taradiddles is so far removed from reality, I find myself questioning what color the sky must be in his world. He has, on a number of occasions, expressed a desire to eavesdrop on all sorts of private conversations. On all of these occasions, I submitted to the advice of my friends, who assured me that he does, occasionally, make a valid point. But when he says that he answers to no one, that's where the facts end and the ludicrousness begins.

Let me put it this way: all Shadow really wants is to hang onto the perks he's getting from the system. That's all he really cares about. I'm sure you get my point here. As someone who enjoys brandishing words like "disproportionateness" and "anticonfederationist" as a smoke screen to hide his deeds' inherent paradoxes, he must indubitably be at a loss when someone presents a logical counterargument to his scurrilous nostrums. What I just said is a very important point, but I'm afraid a lot of readers might miss it, so I'll say a few more words on the subject. This point is so important that it deserves a separate discussion, which I'll provide in a moment.

What does Shadow have to say about all of this? The answer, as expected, is nothing. Last I checked, I really wouldn't want to introduce more restrictions on our already dwindling freedoms. I would, on the other hand, love to establish clear, justifiable definitions of antagonism and irreligionism, so that you can defend a decision to take action when his comrades inspire a recrudescence of ungrateful fatuity. But, hey, I'm already doing that with this letter. While he puts on a good dog and pony show, my cause is to put the kibosh on his stances. I call upon men and women from all walks of life to support my cause with their life-affirming eloquence and indomitable spirit of human decency and moral righteousness. Only then will the whole world realize that if Shadow can give us all a succinct and infallible argument proving that cultural tradition has never contributed a single thing to the advancement of knowledge or understanding, I will personally deliver his Nobel Prize for Uncontrollable Rhetoric. In the meantime, Shadow needs to stop living in denial. He needs to wake up and realize that many people respond to his self-absorbed warnings in the same way that they respond to television dramas. They watch them; they talk about them; but they feel no overwhelming compulsion to do anything about them. That's why I insist we break the spell of great expectations that now binds the worst kinds of imprudent, callow desperados there are to Shadow. We must bear witness to the plain, unvarnished truth. If we fail in this, we are not failing someone else; we are not disrupting some interest separate from ourselves. Rather, it is we who suffer when we neglect to observe that there is no place in this country where we are safe from Shadow's backers, no place where we are not targeted for hatred and attack.

While I know very little about prolix calumniators, I do know that I am convinced that there will be a strong effort on Shadow's part to promote, foster, and institute opportunism in the coming days. This effort will be disguised, of course. It will be cloaked in deceit, as such efforts always are. That's why I'm informing you that some people are responsible and others are not. Shadow falls into the category of "not". Politically incorrect wimps who discredit legitimate voices in the antiheroism debate might not recognize the incongruities in his expostulations, but if he wanted to, he could gum up what were once great ideas. He could canonize doctrinaire psychopaths as nomological emblems of propriety. And he could impose a particular curriculum, vision of history, and method of pedagogy on our school systems. We must not allow Shadow to do any of these. In point of fact, if you've read this far, then you probably either agree with me or are on the way to agreeing with me. If you read between the lines of Shadow's snow jobs, you'll sincerely find that I don't care what others say about Shadow. He's still fickle, hateful, and he intends to address what is, in the end, a nonexistent problem. He has gotten away with so much for so long that he's lost all sense of caution, all sense of limits. If you think about it, only a man without any sense of limits could desire to reward mediocrity.

When Shadow says that he never engages in morally questionable, frotteurism-oriented, or tactless politics, that's just a load of spucatum tauri. If you delve deeply into his plans for the future and thus, in tranquil clarity, submit to contemplation the double standards of duplicitous televangelists, you will truly discover why at least 80 percent of the people in this country recognize that anyone who denies this and insists on looking at issues from a single perspective is a participant in a flat, simplistic, and incomplete world. What's my problem, then? Allow me to present it in the form of a question: What meaningless self-inflicted psychological trauma is he going through now? Well, while you're deliberating over that, let me ask you another question: How can he gag free speech and then turn around and shed tears for those who got hurt as a result? Now, not to bombard you with too many questions, but in order to solve the big problems with him, we must first understand these problems, and to understand them, we must oppose evil wherever it rears its refractory, ridiculous head. The central paradox of Shadow's exegeses, the twist that makes Shadow's crusades so irresistible to unprincipled abusive-types, is that these people truly believe that militarism can quell the hatred and disorder in our society. I am shocked and angered by Shadow's parasitic improprieties. Such shameful conduct should never be repeated.

[Krezack]

My complaint about the phone company

I am writing on behalf of myself and a few of my friends to state that I experienced quite an epiphany when I first realized that the phone company has a hidden agenda. For most of the facts I'm about to present, I have provided documentation and urge you to confirm these facts for yourself if you're skeptical. The phone company, please spare us the angst of living in a fallen world. The phone company is obviously trying to threaten national security, and unless we act now, it'll certainly succeed. While the concept of broad-based peace and social justice coalitions remains desirable, the phone company somehow manages to get away with spreading lies (ignorant flakes are all inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive), distortions (it has its moral compass in tact), and misplaced idealism (the best way to reduce cognitive dissonance and restore homeostasis to one's psyche is to support hostile governments known for human rights abuses, wrongful imprisonment, and slavery). However, when I try to respond in kind, I get censored faster than you can say "syncategorematically". In the end, we have to ask, "How long shall there continue egocentric beatniks to vend and revolting, soulless yokels to gulp so low a piece of Comstockism as the phone company's propositions?" The complete answer to that question is a long, sad story. I've answered parts of that question in several of my previous letters, and I'll answer other parts in future ones. For now, I'll just say that if, five years ago, I had described an organization like the phone company to you and told you that in five years, it'd hinder economic growth and job creation, you'd have thought me insolent. You'd have laughed at me and told me it couldn't happen. So it is useful now to note that, first, it has happened and, second, to try to understand how it happened and how to get even the simplest message into the consciousness of sinful hermits, it has to be repeated at least 50 times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following 50 times, but if we point out that the emperor has no clothes on, then the sea of elitism, on which it so heavily relies, will begin to dry up. Is there a chance that the phone company isn't unruly, sanctimonious, and diabolic? From what I've seen, I doubt it.

My intention here is not just to discuss the programmatic foundations of the phone company's childish obiter dicta in detail, but also to strip the unjust power from those who seek power over others and over nature. The phone company's hangers-on all have serious personal problems. In fact, the way it keeps them loyal to it is by encouraging and exacerbating these problems rather than by helping to overcome them. Someone once said to me, "Whenever I ponder over the meanings and implications of the phone company's cantankerous jeremiads, I feel little peace." This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.

We must unmistakably deal summarily with bloodthirsty twaddlers. Does that sound extremist? Is it too violent for you? I'm sorry if it seems that way, but that's life.

Individually, the phone company's announcements treat anyone who doesn't agree with the phone company to a torrent of vitriol and vilification. But linked together, the phone company's ebullitions could waste taxpayers' money. The phone company's bromides manifest themselves in two phases. Phase one: marginalize and eventually even outlaw responsible critics of unctuous simpletons. Phase two: implement a sinister parody of justice called "the phone company-ism". A final note: The phone company frequently demands reparations for what only it perceives as injustices committed against it.

[KRSplat]

The phone company? This topic is now officialy SPAM.

Oh well.

There probably is some <s>spam</s> speech generator they're using, there are no spelling errors. I've never read a book with no errors. I am 100% sure that none of YOU are capable of typing something like that with no errors in your English (although I'm not sure about EvilMike, he might be able to do that.)

Or, maybe, they wrote speeches. That could be it.

(EDIT: After going on #jj2 for about 1 sec, I learned the URL of a certain website, and feel like ruining some fun. http://hugin.sigusr1.org/~pakin/complaint )

[MadRabb]

Truthteller, please don't lie. All I've seen are your opinions. Therefore, you should call yourself "OpinionTeller"

[Tik]

Originally posted by MadRabb
Truthteller, please don't lie. All I've seen are your opinions. Therefore, you should call yourself "OpinionTeller" You won't hear about this in the media, but it would be a mistake to believe that an open party with unlimited access to alcohol can't possibly outgrow the host's ability to manage the crowd. In the text that follows, I won't bother discussing the flaws in MadRabb's logic, because she unquestionably doesn't use any logic. Guess what? If we're to effectively carry out our responsibilities and make a future for ourselves, we will first have to clean up the country and get it back on course again. After all, this is not the place to develop that subject. It demands many pages of analysis, which I can't spare in this letter. Instead, I'll just state the key point, which is that I recently heard her tell a bunch of people that the federal government should take more and more of our hard-earned money and more and more of our hard-won rights. I can't adequately describe my first reaction to this notion; I simply don't know how to represent uncontrollable laughter in text.

Although some condescending, grotesque control freaks concede that MadRabb's prank phone calls have served as a powerful weapon with which mad, vicious clods can use lethal violence as a source of humor, they invariably deny that I correctly predicted that MadRabb would rob, steal, cheat, and murder. Alas, I didn't think she'd do that so effectively -- or so soon. Worse yet, she wants to turn a deaf ear to need and suffering. She asserts that she is beyond reproach. That assertion is not only untrue, but a conscious lie. If MadRabb ever claims that she never engages in grumpy, obscene, or wretched politics, we must answer only one thing: "No, the reverse is true."

Her patter is smooth and quite practiced. She can fast-talk you into believing you'd be better off if you participated in her effort to nourish raving ideologies. However, MadRabb's opinions fall apart upon reflection. Let me close by reminding you that MadRabb would have you believe that she has her moral compass in tact.

[Krezack]

I don't know how to tell you this, but Councilmember jOHN DOELY OLLE YZ, Esq. has a different view of reality from the rest of us. First, the misinformation: Councilmember OLLE YZ suggests that going through the motions of working is the same as working. Where the heck did she come up with that? She doesn't want you to know the answer to that question; she wants to ensure you don't give parents the means to protect their children. Her stances deserve to be criticized because they insult the intelligence, interests, and life plans of whole groups of people. I guess I really can't blame her for wanting to subject us to the vile, piteous yapping of anti-democratic beggars. After all, once one begins thinking about free speech, about ornery, moonstruck particularism enthusiasts who use ostracism and public opinion to prevent the airing of views contrary to their own tendentious beliefs, one realizes that she is not just stupid. She is unbelievably, astronomically stupid.

Every time Councilmember OLLE YZ tells her devotees that governments should have the right to lie to their own subjects or to other governments, their eyes roll into the backs of their heads as they become mindless receptacles of unsubstantiated information, which they accept without question. I have the strength, ability, desire, and courage to hammer out solutions on the anvil of discourse. Do you? Her pronouncements are popular among the most muddleheaded saboteurs you'll ever see, but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept them. What that means, simply put, is that if I didn't sincerely believe that Councilmember OLLE YZ has shown no compunction in committing character assassinations or engaging in full-scale vendettas, then I wouldn't be writing this letter.

Her claim that stentorian ratbags and the worst sorts of vitriolic usurers there are should rule this country is factually unsupported and politically motivated. Although the Gospel According to Councilmember OLLE YZ says that Councilmember OLLE YZ has a "special" perspective on fascism which carries with it a "special" right to sully my reputation, I contend that she claims that she has achieved sainthood. Well, I beg to differ. She ignores a breathtaking number of facts, most notably:

Fact: Respect for the law is not enhanced by setting the bad example of breaking the law.

Fact: Her sophistries have proven to be a complete disaster in both theory and practice.

Fact: If her lapdogs are frightened that she might paint people of different races and cultures as raving alien forces undermining the coherent national will quicker than you can double-check the spelling of "cinematographical", they have only themselves to blame.

In addition, I am aware that many people may object to the severity of my language. But is there no cause for severity? Naturally, I insist that there is, because the reason she wants to make all of us pay for her boondoggles is that she's entirely brutish. If you believe you have another explanation for her apolaustic behavior, then please write and tell me about it.

Councilmember OLLE YZ's perspective is that she is the ultimate authority on what's right and what's wrong. My perspective, in contrast, is that each rung on the ladder of ruffianism is a crisis of some kind. Each crisis supplies an excuse for Councilmember OLLE YZ to toy with our opinions. That is the standard process by which eccentric purveyors of malice and hatred operate on a criminal -- as opposed to a civil disobedience -- basis. Of particular interest to me is the way that she continuously denies that I am chagrined but resigned when I witness the indifference to the fundamentals of language that she displays. Why? That's easy. Her claim that all minorities are poor, stupid ghetto trash is not only an attack on the concept of objectivity, but an assault on the human mind.

Despite what Councilmember OLLE YZ says, she contends that uppity calumniators are inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive. Excuse me, but where exactly did this little factoid come from? So let me make it clear that it's easy to tell if she is lying. If her lips are moving, she's lying.

Generally speaking, Councilmember OLLE YZ is like a pigeon. Pigeons are too self-absorbed to care about anyone else. They poo on people they don't like; they poo on people they don't even know. The only real difference between Councilmember OLLE YZ and a pigeon is that Councilmember OLLE YZ intends to toss sops to the egos of the pretentious. That's why the baneful nature of her overgeneralizations is not just a rumor. It is a fact to which I can testify. She is doing more harm than good to her cause. It is also worthy of note that it is more than a purely historical question to ask, "How did her reign of terror start?" or even the more urgent question, "How might it end?". No, we must ask, "What exactly is she trying to hide?" It is bootless to speculate on the matter, but it should be noted that not only does Councilmember OLLE YZ jawbone aimlessly, but she then commands her representatives, "Go, and do thou likewise." I have a hard time trying to reason with people who remain calm when they see Councilmember OLLE YZ contaminate or cut off our cities' water supply. This is a free country, and I think we ought to keep it that way.

Astute observers have known for years that Councilmember OLLE YZ is not only immoral, but amoral. As long as the beer keeps flowing and the paychecks keep coming, her minions, who are legion, don't really care that the tone of her platitudes is eerily reminiscent of that of insolent knee-biters of the late 1940s, in the sense that I shall do my utmost to create a world in which nepotism, gangsterism, and faddism are all but forgotten. That shouldn't surprise you when you consider that if she had even a shred of intellectual integrity, she'd admit that her personal attacks are an icon for the deterioration of the city, for its slow slide into crime, malaise, and filth. To put it crudely, Councilmember OLLE YZ is trying to make mountains out of molehills. Her mission? To undermine serious institutional and economic analyses and replace them with a diverting soap opera of effete conspiracies. It strikes me as amusing that she complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! Councilmember OLLE YZ does nothing but complain.

If I am doomed to languish along beneath the thousand eyes of immoral mendicants, then she will obviously engage in an endless round of finger pointing in the blink of an eye. She will probably never understand why she scares me so much. And Councilmember OLLE YZ does scare me: Her communications are scary, her bait-and-switch tactics are scary, and most of all, she is burdened with a dead weight of the most filthy conceptions and prejudices. Period, finis, and Q.E.D. I just want to say that if you read her writings while mentally out of focus, you may get the sense that she has her moral compass in tact. But if you read Councilmember OLLE YZ's writings while mentally in focus and weigh each point carefully, it's clear that this is not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, where the state would be eager to impose ideology, control thought, and punish virtually any behavior she disapproves of. Not yet, at least. But she wants to transform our whole society to suit her own unreasonable interests. You know what groups have historically wanted to do the same thing? Fascists and Nazis. Words fail me in describing my pure distaste for Councilmember OLLE YZ's taradiddles and loud disquisitions. The same might be said of sophomoric geeks.

Councilmember OLLE YZ has it all wrong; if she has spurred us to stop this insanity, then Councilmember OLLE YZ may have accomplished a useful thing. I believe I have finally figured out what makes people like her threaten, degrade, poison, bulldoze, and kill this world of ours. It appears to be a combination of an overactive mind, lack of common sense, assurance of one's own moral propriety, and a total lack of exposure to the real world. On that note, let me say that Councilmember OLLE YZ just keeps on saying, "I don't give a [expletive deleted] about you. I just want to eroticize relations of dominance and subordination." Will someone please explain to me what it is in our lives that can possibly make someone bring ugliness and nastiness into our lives? Because I certainly have no idea. Okay, I've vented enough frustration. So let me end by saying that Councilmember jOHN DOELY OLLE YZ, Esq.'s rantings are a pitiful jumble of incoherent nonsense.

[ShadowGPW]

(PR)

Derby: Picture removal. There is an excess of context, and it cannot be edited, either to make it better, nor to allow it to remain funny.

[dopeh]

;-D

[ElectroPiZZa]

No thanks.

[MoonBlazE]

http://www.imagemagician.org/images/moonblaze/stfu2.gif

[ShadowGPW]

i should move this topic top comedy cafe :P :lol:

[ElectroPiZZa]

Yeah, maybe you should, so I can edit your image.

[ShadowGPW]

naw topic closed is a better option imho

[Chiyu]

Originally posted by Moonblaze
I am seriously tired of your negative comments always, this community are based on Jazz Jackrabbbit, and it's a Jazz Jackrabbit community whenever you feel it so or not. You just pull too much weight on the non-releated Jazz boards.
Who should deside if this community is releated to Jazz2 enough? You?
So you talked to Piccolo? Did you try convert him? Or did you back him up? What do you hide?

Sorry for this negativity, but I am really (mad on) Craccoboy.

Derby: Content replacement/fix.

Moonblaze: Grammar fix. Silly Derby. ;-P

YOU are always negative to me. Just try to ignore me if you can't take a little critism.

[MoonBlazE]

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
YOU are always negative to me. Just try to ignore me if you can't take a little critism. I just knew you would continue the fight, silly CraccoBoy.
Btw ShadoW, well locked. ;)

[Chiyu]

I didn't fight at all. You started attacking me here, and seems to enjoy continueing with that.
Anyway, let's not go off-topic.

I am not going to back Piccolo up, I don't really like him anyway (I had to kick him out of CC because of attitude problems) and he's a little.. strange..

[MoonBlazE]

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
I didn't fight at all. You started attacking me here, and seems to enjoy continueing with that.
Anyway, let's not go off-topic.

I am not going to back Piccolo up, I don't really like him anyway (I had to kick him out of CC because of attitude problems) and he's a little.. strange.. Erh..where did I attack you?
I belive you with Piccolo, might you could try make him stop?

[$tilettø]

It was Unlocked and for what Purpose ??

[VelKa]

All of you STOP, right NOW. It's not even funny to read this thread anymore. Everything in here about DDL is the same as it was several days ago. And this isn't a thread about Craccoboy and MoonBlaze, either. Quit the fighting, children.

And, don't make me post in here again.


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[MoonBlazE]

Sorry because me and CraccoBoy disguissed DDL Velkasha, you'r right, we should not disguiss DDL but DDL, and we must keep it up in CAPS so you can laugh?
We try being abit serious and come with our oppenin, and you come here with spam, I don't see how you dare come with it.

Except for that, and back to DDL.
Could we maybe get to contact Piccolo with purpose and maybe try get some serious of it instead of ending up with "YOU ARE ALL BRAINWASHED!"?
If CraccoBoy knows Piccolo, he can maybe try talk to Piccolo, and this madness of laser may finally going off. I hope.

[Chiyu]

Originally posted by Moonblaze
Erh..where did I attack you?
I belive you with Piccolo, might you could try make him stop?
I don't think I can. I'm one of his (and his 'Canadian' friend) most favorite victims in spamming and flaming anyways ;-P

Oh ya MB and I agree with you what you just said in the post above here.

[FireSworD]

Hasn't anybody yet realized that this is just a game?

[Chiyu]

Most DDLs are really crazy, I tell ya.. The only normal one afaik is Crono. -.-

DarkShadow says:
WE HAV DECIDED THAT U STARTED DDL! WE HAVE A HUGE FOLLOWING. AND A QUAKENET CHANELL
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
who are you?
DarkShadow says:
=OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DarkShadow says:
*GASP*
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
well?
DarkShadow says:
I'M DARKSHADOW. =)))))))))))))))
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
and that is? A DDL?
DarkShadow says:
PLZ NO THX.
DarkShadow says:
DONT BLAME ME FOR STARTIND DDL NOW.
DarkShadow says:
U DID.
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
(-) do you want from me
DarkShadow says:
=O!



And from another chat with some Shadow-person:

-=Dante=- "What's happening Dave? Something... wonderful..." "Gwha! Copying name outline!" *20 days till... * says:
well, i heard you started it =P
-=Dante=- "What's happening Dave? Something... wonderful..." "Gwha! Copying name outline!" *20 days till... * says:
everyone says it was you and moonblaze
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
? ehm/
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
who is everyone?
-=Dante=- "What's happening Dave? Something... wonderful..." "Gwha! Copying name outline!" *20 days till... * says:
thats what they say, i have proof
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
show
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
who are 'they'?
-=Dante=- "What's happening Dave? Something... wonderful..." "Gwha! Copying name outline!" *20 days till... * says:
okay, just a sec
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
hurry.
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
c'mon
CråççõBôÿ CC says:
;-p I dont have much time till I take a shower
-=Dante=- "What's happening Dave? Something... wonderful..." "Gwha! Copying name outline!" *20 days till... * says:
they says you dont need proof, coz you did it



Moonblaze, I never knew that we were the real leaders of DDL, did you? =P

[Stijn]

LOL FUN =))))))

[Enigma]

HAHAAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOLOLOROFLROFLROFLOZFIVYZTUVFUSFJK IT'S ONE BIG CONSPIRACY

[Fawriel]

Looks a lot like a new definition of stupid to me

[VelKa]

IT'S ALL ONE BIG GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY.

[ShadowGPW]

http://web.njit.edu/~njc3/fragmaster.gif

[MoonBlazE]

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
-=Dante=- "What's happening Dave? Something... wonderful..." "Gwha! Copying name outline!" *20 days till... * says:
everyone says it was you and moonblaze
OH NO, IM BUSTED. I THOUGHT DANTE PROMISHED TO KEEP IT SECRET =OOOO!!!!
I will offical help EvilMike destroy JJ2 now and make every DDL member help him. DIE.

[Iam Canadian]

This topic has lost all purpose. Someone ought to lock it.

[MoonBlazE]

No, we are still mising an anwser, how can we come to stop the people from lasering servers?

[Krezack]

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[$tilettø]

I dont see the Connection Krezack?

anyway you simply cannot stop people from lasering your server.

We are Unstopable :lol:

[MoonBlazE]

Originally posted by $tilettø
I dont see the Connection Krezack?

anyway you simply cannot stop people from lasering your server.

We are Unstopable :lol: We? What do you mean with that?

[Stijn]

HE MUST BE DDL HAX0RER WITH MAD SKILLZ

[Chiyu]

OMG HE IS THE REAL DDL LEADER AND NOT ME AND MOONBLAZE!

[Tik]

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[VelKa]

Originally posted by Spaztic
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