.J2b Player

[Boss Jazz]

Just wondering if any of yousa know where mesa can find a .j2b player for Macintosh or Windows 95

[Newspaz]

Doesn't exist. although you can download the original mod files at <a href="http://www.loricentral.com">LoriCentral</a>.

[Boss Jazz]

Is there a plugin for winamp?

[Newspaz]

Doesn't exist. although you can download the original mod files at <a href="http://www.loricentral.com">LoriCentral</a>.
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[Boss Jazz]

Can't get to Lori Central.

Mesa want to play .j2bs from custom levels not the original levels.

[Radium]

Set the level's music to (filename here).j2b.

[Haze]

No winamp-plugin or seperate replayer available... yet. ;) Maybe we'll see some interesting developments on this in the near future, emphasis on "maybe". I can not say more. :P

[Stijn]

Set the level's music to (filename here).j2b.
He didn't mean that :P

[Teej a.k.a T-Dj]

No winamp-plugin or seperate replayer available... yet. ;) Maybe we'll see some interesting developments on this in the near future, emphasis on "maybe". I can not say more. :P

I like where this is going...

[stripe]

You *should* be able to find the original file that was made into the custom .j2b with a bit of sleuthing.

www.modarchive.com, www.scene.org, or www.ojuice.net should be good places to start

stripe

[Karmus]

You *should* be able to find the original file that was made into the custom .j2b with a bit of sleuthing.
www.modarchive.com, www.scene.org, or www.ojuice.net should be good places to start
You're right! I also found 7thheaven.j2b from Operation Clone Killer in MOD format on ModArchive.
The source code ain't released that's why playing them outside JJ2 is impossible.

[Odin]

Or, you could simply convert the j2b files into mod files. :P

[Karmus]

Or, you could simply convert the j2b files into mod files. :P
There's no j2b2mod.exe, but mod2j2b.exe is available.
http://jazz.madskills.org/music/

[Risp_old]

Just wondering if any of yousa know where mesa can find a .j2b player for Macintosh or Windows 95
Araagh... Jar Jar binks accent... dieing... horribly...

[Odin]

You can easily recode mod2j2b to conver j2b files into mod files.

Or, you can download Modplug Tracker from Modplug.com. You can use is to convert .J2B files to .S3M files or whatever, so a player like winamp can play them. You can also use it to convert Jazz1 music files (.PSM, I believe). Speaking of which, I'm listening to Tubelectric right now. ;)

-RoW

[Boss Jazz]

How do yousa open a .J2B in ModTracker?

[Newspaz]

I don't think you can. I think RoW is a bit confused here....

[Karmus]

PSM files were compressed S3M files I think. You could at least open them with MODPlug Tracker. There's no way to play or open J2B files outside Jazz2 since the source code isn't released.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

How can I make a music? PLEASE TELL ME!!!!!!! :(

[Trafton]

How can I make a music? PLEASE TELL ME!!!!!!! :(
You can make music by getting a program like MODPlug (use Google to find it) and then using the MOD2J2B convertor. I can't remember where it is, unfortunately; it is somewhere though. Perhaps on Haze's Hideout?

~ Traft

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

You can make music by getting a program like MODPlug (use Google to find it) and then using the MOD2J2B convertor. I can't remember where it is, unfortunately; it is somewhere though. Perhaps on Haze's Hideout?

~ Traft

No, I'm talking about .j2b

[Flamepanther]

You can use the mod2j2b program to turn the files Modplug makes into j2b files.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

Where can I download it?

[Flamepanther]

Where can I download it?
I think you can still find mod2j2b in the downloads section of www.jazzjackrabbit.com

[KRSplat]

This thread has revived so many times it's not even funny. The worst part is that it has always been the same questions and answers. By the way, this is a 2-day revival.

[AceMan]

Hello everyone. I registered here, because i want to ask a one question:

You said, that .j2b format code ain't released yet. If so, where from LoriCentral got .s3m files?

[Newspaz]

Hello everyone. I registered here, because i want to ask a one question:

You said, that .j2b format code ain't released yet. If so, where from LoriCentral got .s3m files?
The person who composed the music.

[AceMan]

But songs avaible on LoriCentral are a little different than songs in JJ2 (patterns are arranges in another way, etc.). Are they avaible in original version somewhere? If not, maybe we should resort to author and ask for original versions of tunes ;) ? Ok, i know, i'm complaining... but i like, when modules sounds identical as in game.

[Newspaz]

But songs avaible on LoriCentral are a little different than songs in JJ2 (patterns are arranges in another way, etc.). Are they avaible in original version somewhere? If not, maybe we should resort to author and ask for original versions of tunes ;) ? Ok, i know, i'm complaining... but i like, when modules sounds identical as in game.
Try sending Monolith an email. I think he has the ingame music as MP3.

[Haze]

If not, maybe we should resort to author and ask for original versions of tunes ?

That's exactly the thing, these are the versions he had on his drive. The versions that were used in the game probably have been lost. :\

[AceMan]

Too bad... :(

But i think, that i know another way to get it.
I noticed, that this .s3m files include all patterns, which have been used in game. In that case, we can simply rearrange patterns to get modules in form, which will be probably the same as in the game. I am wrong :) ?

[Newspaz]

Maybe reading my post above Haze's and following my advice is easier.

[AceMan]

I know, i know... but personaly i don't like mp3 soundtrack, if module version is possible to get.

Look at this: http://www.modules.piwko.pl/mods/pcgames/jazz_jackrabbit_2/Labratory%20Level.s3m
I just rearranged patterns. It sounds like ingame music now :)

[Boss Jazz]

For the record, mesa have heard of something for Linux that supposedly can play .J2B files.

[Newspaz]

You're probably the only one on this forum then.

[Karmus]

I have discovered 2 tracks in Jazz2 game which aren't MOD released. One of them is the Boss1.j2b. I have asked Alberto about this.

[Lem_Gambino]

I think it's obvious that if a .mod can be converted into a .j2b, then it should be possible to change it back. I'll try MODPlug Tracker and see if it works.

[Tubz]

I just read all the posts. Hehe, that would be really keen if there was a mod2j2b program then player.

Listen up people, I was talking to Alberto now and he said he'll make the program if someone can tell him what .j2b's compression is..the compression is said to be something that only the game knows how to play

[Newspaz]

It's pretty much unknown how the compression works. Well, some is known, but I don't think certain people will appreciate it if I post it on here.

[Haze]

Okay, thing is one of the peeps over at Guerilla said they'd take a look at it if they'd ever get their hands on a copy of the source-code. Unfortunately that was the last I ever heard of them, so it's safe to assume they're also still waiting. <__<

[Tubz]

Eh huh, if someone knows the source-code, compression, or whatever thing. PM or email me it, if you can't contact Alberto.

Whatever little bit of information you know can probably help, pm or email me what you know.

[Lem_Gambino]

JJ Tubear failed to claim a page, so I am. MY PAGE!

[Tubz]

I don't find any fun in claiming a page anymore.

[Lem_Gambino]

O_o Well, that's okay. It's a mindless obsession, like Pokemon.

[Tubz]

Correct, that was a mindless obssession, like pageclaiming. YuGiOh is a mindless obssession.

[Lem_Gambino]

X( *blasts JJ Tublear with Ratchet and Clank's Lava Gun*

[Tubz]

:lol: :rollseyes:

[Lem_Gambino]

You didn't do your smiley correctly.

[Tubz]

Dawg, post something useful in this topic-that relates to the topic, instead of useless comments.

[Torkell]

Would this help?

(snippets from this thread (http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?board=2;action=display;threadid=1927) over at the Un4seen (http://www.un4seen.com/) forums (http://www.un4seen.com/forum/))

"In fact J2B support was worked on for ModPlug's engine, however Olivier either gave up because of the encryption or just plainly couldn't care. All that remains is a blank header file which is STILL distributed with libmodplug.
So currently there's no plugin capable of playing the J2B-format."

"The only real difference probably is the "encryption", which IIRC correctly was merely a custom-header and some compression thrown over the file."

"J2B format contains a custom module format based on the RIFF chunked format, compressed using the deflate algorithm."

(and the best bit...)

"Maybe someone still wants to figure out the RIFF AM module format. Here's some basic info on the J2B format...

DWORD id; // "MUSE"
DWORD magic; // DE AD BE AF (huhuhuh, nice spelling)
DWORD filelen; // length of the entire file
DWORD csum; // checksum? doesn't appear to be CRC32 of decompressed data, maybe CRC32 of compressed data?
DWORD clen; // length of the compressed data
DWORD ulen; // length of the decompressed data
BYTE data[]; // clen bytes worth of compressed data; use zlib uncompress() to extract ulen bytes

Once you have that decompressed... good luck reverse engineering the underlying format. It might not be so hard, considering the existence of mod2j2b."

So now we know a bit more - it's compressed, and non-standard inside.

[cooba]

<sux n00bshop>

[Torkell]

Oh, so you don't want me to carry on with my reverse-engineering or whatever of the format? Fine by me - I just won't release any source code or players then.

Just so you know what I've found out so far: I've managed to work out the rough structure of the file, and also most of how instrument data is stored for a standard .MOD file. On the to-do list is to work out the pattern structures, and of course decode the file for other formats.

[Lem_Gambino]

Oh, so you don't want me to carry on with my reverse-engineering or whatever of the format? Fine by me - I just won't release any source code or players then.
*bonks Cooba on the head* Don't mind him. It'd be nice if you could tell us more about what you found, but in a newer, less-likely-to-be-locked thread. ^^;;

[piet]

long time ago i had a jj2 cdrom with an old version on it, back then all the game music where in module format witch can be played and edited. i remember playing them in winamp all day.

so if anny one has that old version?...

(it was the version where the electric gun was kinda like a purple blaster)

[Torkell]

*bonks Cooba on the head*
lol :D
It'd be nice if you could tell us more about what you found, but in a newer, less-likely-to-be-locked thread. ^^;;
Will do so. The trouble is finding out the more information. To give you a rough idea of where I'm at: I've got the basic file format (RIFF after decompression), a couple of basic bits of info about the module (order playback order, for example), and a large chunk of the instrument data. The really tricky bit will be the pattern data - it's not the same as the original module. To start with I'm just trying to unencode a basic 4-channel mod (7th Heaven). I'll make available all the stuff I can find out about the spec.

[Tubz]

Oh, so you don't want me to carry on with my reverse-engineering or whatever of the format? Fine by me - I just won't release any source code or players then.

Just so you know what I've found out so far: I've managed to work out the rough structure of the file, and also most of how instrument data is stored for a standard .MOD file. On the to-do list is to work out the pattern structures, and of course decode the file for other formats.

Ignore Cooba man, do continue :). Still trying to get this thing to work.

[FQuist]

Nice work. Good luck.