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niek
Jan 3, 2004, 11:29 PM
Why is Jazz2city death?

It was a cool site i remember :mad: .

Karmus
Jan 3, 2004, 11:48 PM
Why is Jazz2city dead?
It was a cool site i remember :mad: .
Search the forum.
They couldn't handle it anymore.

Cpp
Jan 4, 2004, 02:56 AM
Why is Jazz2city death?

It was a cool site i remember :mad: .
Jazz 2 City is not DEATH but it is DEAD. I think there's a link to a record of J2C somewhere on this message board.

Unhit
Jan 4, 2004, 03:04 AM
Overlord hi :D

Risp_old
Jan 4, 2004, 04:55 AM
Yessss... Jazz 2 City is death... beware!

Karmus
Jan 4, 2004, 11:54 AM
Yessss... Jazz 2 City is death... beware!
LOL!
You can also try www.archive.org/web and search for "http://www.jazz2city.com/" in the Wayback Machine.

Ninja
Jan 4, 2004, 12:18 PM
Dethman was angered that there wasn't enough, "christianity" on the board anymore, so he shut it down.

Flamepanther
Jan 4, 2004, 01:41 PM
Yessss... Jazz 2 City is death... beware!
Well gee, no wonder they took it down, then. Man, and to think I would've gone right back in there...

Lark
Jan 4, 2004, 06:25 PM
Unfortunately, all sites that you will go to that have J2C logged do not have the files.

Karmus
Jan 5, 2004, 05:54 AM
Dethman was angered that there wasn't enough, "christianity" on the board anymore, so he shut it down.
Steven Wakeman is studying theology. His conversations are euphoric. :)

Aiko
Jan 6, 2004, 04:17 AM
Good question, niek.
But probably not one we like to discuss here over and over again.
Try this for your amusement (same topic):
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=7860

Sun Fun Dude
Jan 7, 2004, 02:15 AM
Why is Jazz2city death?

It was a cool site i remember :mad: .

Well I'm afraid your wrong the Grim Reaper is death. Jazz2City was a JJ2 site. I think your a little confussed.

Karmus
Jan 7, 2004, 04:48 AM
Well I'm afraid your wrong the Grim Reaper is death. Jazz2City was a JJ2 site. I think your a little confussed.
Jazz2City is also death. It has died so it's surrounded by death!

Violet CLM
Jan 7, 2004, 12:21 PM
I'm surrounded by wood. Does that make me wood? No.

But probably not one we like to discuss here over and over again.
But every time the facts get more distorted and Dethman gets more blame!

blurredd
Jan 7, 2004, 05:25 PM
It only makes sense that Dethman brings upon death. It's practically in his name.

Brian
Jan 9, 2004, 10:16 AM
*sigh* Why is it that whenever I make a statement that Dethman didn't make the decision to close down the JMMB, that people ignore me and blame him anyway?

They couldn't handle it anymore.
This is only half true. We were managing to hold out for a while, but it was a lot of work on Steven Wakeman. Though being the hard worker that is is, we kept the site alive for a while. That in and of itself was not enough of a reason to close the site down.
Dethman was angered that there wasn't enough, "christianity" on the board anymore, so he shut it down.
That is blatently wrong. I know he knew that the board lost its Christian values/roots, but that's not the reason that we shut it down either. We didn't have Derby back then so like 90% of the posts were flamewars and fighting and such, and we wanted it to end.

Of course no one seems to think that the final blow just might have happened because it's nearly impossible to find a web host that will give you a gig of disk space and unlimited transfer for free.

The history of J2C hosts:

1.) J2C started as a personal webpage on frontiernet. Basically the free space that they got for using their home ISP. 10 megs. As you can imagine, J2C outgrew that 10 meg limit awful fast.

2.) Mich.com. This was a good web host, a friend of Deth's I believe. He used to run an ISP and played JJ2 so he was a fan of the game. We resided there for a while. I miss that site, we had shell access and everything. We were also the biggest user on their servers, but that's another story. :-) Anyway, to make a long story short, mich.com went under and we had to change hosts.

3.) Next was actionxtreme.com. This was a site that Jeh worked at. Remember him? He graciously managed to find some space for us to be for a while. That site wasn't so great, as I only had FTP access. Anyway, J2C was there for a short while more, until actionxtreme.com was bought out by Gamespy.

Once Gamespy got their hands on it, it was pretty much game over. Somehow the FTP password got changed, and no one could access the site. Jeh couldn't change it for us. I couldn't get in to make a final backup of all the files. It was a mess. The site continued to operate for about a month or two on its own, then it just dissappeared.

At that point, we never really brought it back. Finding a web host that will give you a gig of disk space for free is quite challenging. Eventually, I put it up on my personal server at: http://jazz2city.milesba.com so that people could download the files still, but it looks like that's broke now. I'll have to fix it once I get home. I've still got the backup files on 2 CD's. The J2C stuff on one of them, and the JMMB stuff on a second. It literally took over a gig of disk space to host J2C.

I think I may bring it back again just for the files, but it will never become active again.

And like it was mentioned, check <a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=7860">here</a> for a previous topic that also explained a lot about why it closed. It wasn't just because of Dethman, it was because of a lot of reasons.

Karmus
Jan 12, 2004, 04:44 AM
I was too young (8y) so I didn't know how to use the JMMB. Too bad for me :p.

Ryoushi
Jan 13, 2004, 04:34 PM
DON'T GO TO JAZZ2CITY! IT IS DEATH!! AAHH I'M SO FREAKIN SCARED AAAAHH!
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Ryoushi
Jan 13, 2004, 04:36 PM
No seriously he's right. Old buddy Grim is death. Not J2C. Sarve Harve. <(Sorry Harvey)

Ryoushi
Jan 13, 2004, 04:38 PM
And yes I know that your names not Harvey. I would have put this all in, but they got rid of "EDIT".

Flamepanther
Jan 13, 2004, 10:43 PM
Brian, people will always believe what they want to believe, and ignore evidence to the contrary once they've formed that belief. People that still think it's Dethman's fault becuase things weren't Christian enough will always find it easier to believe that than to think "I was wrong about this". Sad, but that's just the way people are.

As for me, I was a regular downloader at J2C, but I never used the forums, so I never had a clue what happened. It was just gone. *poof!* I'm glad to read in the older thread what eventually happened, even if it sucks that it happened, and I'm glad to see you're still looking at ways to put up an archive of the files again. I would love to get at some of those files...

Karmus
Jan 14, 2004, 04:43 AM
As for me, I was a regular downloader at J2C, but I never used the forums, so I never had a clue what happened. It was just gone. *poof!* I'm glad to read in the older thread what eventually happened, even if it sucks that it happened, and I'm glad to see you're still looking at ways to put up an archive of the files again. I would love to get at some of those files...
Me too. Just 404 error.
Email someone from J2C staff. I know that Steven has a backup, he sent some of my levels argh they were so ugly and poorly made! :Z

KRSplat
Jan 14, 2004, 05:44 PM
I was too young (8y) so I didn't know how to use the JMMB. Too bad for me :p.

When I joined the JMMB, I was 8. Now I am 12. In my fifth year. I am still not a teenager. :P

Sun Fun Dude
Jan 15, 2004, 12:02 AM
And yes I know that your names not Harvey. I would have put this all in, but they got rid of "EDIT".

Uh what the edit button is right next to the quote button :rolleyes:

Karmus
Jan 15, 2004, 06:00 AM
When I joined the JMMB, I was 8. Now I am 12. In my fifth year. I am still not a teenager. :P
I'm not a native American/Brit. My English was so bad that people on JMMB probably couldn't understand it anyway.

Brian
Jan 15, 2004, 06:29 AM
Email someone from J2C staff. I know that Steven has a backup
What part of
I've still got the backup files on 2 CD's.
do you not understand? :-) Don't email Steven, he's taking 6 classes in college at this moment. He's awful busy with homework and stuff. Besides, being at college he probably doesn't have the backups with him anyway.

Karmus
Jan 16, 2004, 05:41 AM
do you not understand? :-) Don't email Steven, he's taking 6 classes in college at this moment. He's awful busy with homework and stuff. Besides, being at college he probably doesn't have the backups with him anyway.
Why does he then ask me to tell about how my Christmas went and other holidays? Because he's a very good friend, he was the first and only person I came in contact with on J2C.
...And he fetched them for me the next weekend. :D But I wasn't in hurry, so I didn't care.