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The future of Jazz

Well, here's where we're at guys.

Jazz GBA is looking really cool and will hopefully be out soon. We're hoping to resurrect some interest in Jazz and his universe with this product - the guys at Game Titan have done a great job with this update.

I would love to see Jazz come to next-generation consoles and the PC as a flagship character. He's always been dear to my heart - that darned bunny helped me move out on my own when I was 18 years old!

The thing is, if a new Jazz game is going to happen there needs to be a very obvious demand for it.

If you guys want to see it happen the best thing you can do is to go out there and make some noise. Let the world know you want to see Jazz returning in his full glory. I'd love to see it also!

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Hey Cliff! (shuts his mouth about the topic being in the wrong forum).

I am definately going to buy it (although I kinda dislike Jazz's design, but hey: People were mad about Link's new design in the new Legend Of Zelda game as well, and it turns out to become a great game!), and I told people around me if they were going to buy it as well, but for now the people I know don't seem to be interested in it (anymore). I happen to come alot of forums on the internet, so I will try and advertise it over there!

edit: I spread word on 2 console gaming sites (MegaMan Outpost and F-Zero Central) and am waiting for another board to load (Ganon's Tower). All boards are console (and also GBA)-focused, so I hope to get some attention.

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Woah, i feel motion in the Jazz community. Big news, developers coming to our board and stuff.
Well, the demand for more Jazz games is obvious already, imho. Even though i believe Jazz is a original PC hero and ever will be. Personally, i will not buy any console only because there is a Jazz game for it :)
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Hey Cliff,
It would be great if there would be some new progress in the JJ2 world. The Jazz on GBA looks okay to me, too bad I don't have a GBA

Anyway, it's nice that you are still interested in Jazz.
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what do you want if you have 3 Unreal Projects done and one in upcomming.
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Nice to see you here, Cliff.

I am positive about the future of Jazz Jackrabbit. Although I think the character redesign is terrible in the new GBA game, if it is a good game I am sure it will boost the interest for Jazz.

I think that the opensourcing of jj2 as promised(sort of) by Arjan Brussee will give a big boost to Jazz Jackrabbit too. It might not happen, but if it does we'll attract a lot of people being attracted to the use of the platform engine and things like that. We must wait for the source code until it stops being profitable for Lost Boys Games then we might get it.
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Wow. I'm amazed that you still remember our little web site. ;p

All I want to say is that I have been spreading the word the very best I can and am very excited Jazz still interests all of you. I am glad that you share are views, because it's good to know that someone up top is still in this for the community.

I've been playing this game since I was 8, which amounts to 4 years ago. I've been playing for about a third of my life, and let me tell you that the people I have met in this community, that I have grown to know, and consider very much a part of my family, have nothing short of changed my life. I will never forget the many experiences, good or bad, I've had on this game. This community that I am a part of has helped me through hard spots in my life, and celebrated with me when times are good.

It may just be a game, but each little rabbit, each player, each person I play, I know there is a life behind. A story, just like mine. A life, not just some person on the Internet. The people I have met through this game have became my friends, and I could never forget this community. This game has single-handedly changed, and possibly saved, my life several times.

I was nothing short of devestated when Jazz 3 was cancelled. I became very depressed, and lost interest in the game, as many did. But then I realized that it isn't the game that would be there for me. It was the community. I played more than ever for several months afterwards and felt much better about myself and my life.

I hope that Jazz 3 will come out, and I will do anything to help it come out. I would do anything for this community, my friends, the people I grew up with, learned with, played with, and cried with. I am glad that you still remember us.

Thank you, Cliff, for posting this. It's great to know we haven't been forgotten and that there is still someone routing for us, somewhere out there. I have great respect for you and for what you did today, and promise you that I will never forget you or this game.

Jazz will never die.

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Spreading the word about this game and popularizing Jazz2 is always something good. The problem is, a lot of the members of this board have a lot of negative thoughts and animosity towards the developers of jazz2. In their minds, we have been deserted by creators of it. Personally, I'm indifferent towards epic, because I like a lot of their games, but some players of jazz2 really don't like them at all. One primary reason for this is the fact that our listserver was closed down. list.jazzjackrabbit.com stopped working a few years ago, so we had to switch over to jazz.logicware.com, a listserver which can only be accessed if you change your regestry. This means that any new player who somehow "obtains" this game (Jazz2) will probably not be able to play online unless they find this website, and moreso, this forum. That's difficult though, since this site isn't easy to find.

The point I am trying to make is that if a new wave of people becomes interested in Jazz Jackrabbit, they won't be in contact, or even worse, won't even know about us, the jj2 players.
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Though it seems our beloved Jazz Jackrabbit seems to have been ripped off, I say it's better than nothing. Our community should be grateful we even have a chance at expanding this game to a new level.
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I would love to see Jazz more populair, some more sequals would be cool too.
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Can we show how Jazz has been dear to Cliffy's heart by posting links to the picture of him in the bunny suit for the people who haven't seen it? ;-)
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Cliffery B? IS JASON HALL STILL KING OF TEH MONSTARS!?!?
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Cliffery B If you really want us to go out there and 'make some noise' will you give us marketing money? Or do you want us to go around telling ppl a game for free?
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But what do we make noise about? And where?
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Wow, One of the creators of Jazz has just posted here!

Let me just say that Jazz is one heck of a great game. (Why would I be here otherwise?) I will try to refrain from passing judgement on the GBA game until I play it for myself, but man, judging from those screenies they sure took creative liberty with our beloved bunny!

I could write a huge speech here, but then I'd be wasting everybody's time. So that's all I'll say. May Jazz never die!!


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Que Passa!!!!

All I got to say(Other then, of course, "You Rule, Cliffy.") is to restate my first comment on the game: that despite my dislike for the new look, it's still Jazz, and I will STILL plomp down my dead presidents for the pleasure of being the first in my neighborhood to shove it into that empty space on the top of MY mini game-machine...
Ooooh... That came out sounding nasty. /\/\
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My thoughts on Jazz on next gen systems

Well, first, I love Jazz on the GBA. Next, I would love Jazz on the Gamecube. Of course, above both of those is my five year old PC, but that should be a given. I think there should be Jazz 3-D release for the PC. Then, a sequal to the Jazz GBA game and a new Jazz Gamecube game. Both of them hook up to do something or other, and the Gamecube one would hook up to the internet. Now, my idea may be a bit farfetched considering it took a Ogre Battle amount of time from Jazz 1 to Jazz 2 to Jazz GBA. (I say that because it took I think five years from Tactics Ogre (OB2) to Ogre Battle 3) Jazz on the Gamecube would just be so cool. I mean, I'm a huge Nintendo fan. I know Nintendo would love to get a game that's both online and hooks up to the GBA. Not that it matters much to the guys at Epic, but it would make a huge splash with Nintendo and probably get some free advertising space. Plus, with that keyboard thingy, we could still talk online with like it was Jazz. In fact, we could just use the keyboard thingy (even if it is smaller) to play.

Here's my summary:

Release the GBA Jazz.
Release Jazz 3-D with updated graphics (if it needs it)
Release Gamecube Online Jazz (Hooks up to GBA Jazz 2)
Release GBA Jazz Sequel. (Hooks up to Gamecube Jazz)
DO NOT Release on X-Box.
DO NOT Release on Playstation 2.
Release a Jazz 3-D editor, if it's not included in Jazz 3-D.
RELEASE A JAZZ RPG!!! (Ok, thats a far way off)
Even better yet, a Jazz MMRPG!!
Even BETTER yet, release a Jazz MMRPG staring us!
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My God, it's Cliff.

Hye circus person: Why not on the Xbox or PS2? I have both, and both are excellent gaming machines. People complain they don't have the characters and gameplay of Gamecube games, yet you're saying DON'T do it? Why not? I think Jazz would make an awesome cover-dude for Xbox. He could be their Icon.
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Que Passa!!!!

I agree with Freelance: Xbox has revamped Oddworld, and Toejam and Earl... Not to mention the whole Rare thing. Any game company that brought those successes back shouldn't be disreguarded... And even though I never owned one, I still have a certain liking for Playstation games. They have a kind of likability all their own.

And Jazz as an XBox icon would be cool. If that happened, I might actually buy one... if they make an Aero game as well.
...Ok, so I'm a bit hung up on Aero the Acrobat recently- I can't help it, I'm desperate for the bat to be in 3D just as much as most of us are desperate for the rabbit to be in one.
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Look, I've neglected the Jazz community. Unreal has kept me so busy that I've ignored the real fans - the people that post on this board and still play Jazz2.

I apologize for this.

When Erik Kinkead came to us and wanted to do a new Jazz for GBA Jay Wilbur and I jumped at the chance. We've always loved Jazz and we felt that he was not marketed properly on the PC when Jazz 2 came out.

If we do a Jazz3d and all sorts of n00bs appear on Jazz fansites you're all entitled to give them crap for not knowing the greatness that is Jazz prior to a new game.

By the way, I realize that the update on Jazz's look upsets some of you. It sucks, but we wanted to refine his look a bit. Look at how Mario and Link have changed through the years...Still, I recognize that you guys aren't feeling it and if we do a Jazz 3 I assure you that the headband WILL return.

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I total dislike the looks of this rabbit. This isn't Jazz. This is Bugs Bunny with a bucket of paint fallen over him.
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Cool

You'd all like to see Jazz return, and so would I
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If we do a Jazz3d and all sorts of n00bs appear on Jazz fansites you're all entitled to give them crap for not knowing the greatness that is Jazz prior to a new game.

By the way, I realize that the update on Jazz's look upsets some of you. It sucks, but we wanted to refine his look a bit. Look at how Mario and Link have changed through the years...Still, I recognize that you guys aren't feeling it and if we do a Jazz 3 I assure you that the headband WILL return.

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I'm gonna quote you on that top paragraph.

Not just the headband, but the blaster. It's just...not right for him to not spout the headband, armbands (to a lesser extent) and of course, the blaster. I do agree with Newspaz; Jazz's new look is not half as good as his old/original look.

You HAVE heard about the JJ3 that was cancelled I assume? It used the UT engine. If you do a Jazz3D, I do suggest perhaps shipping it to the latest build of the Unreal Warfare engine. Should it even happen, ASIDE from his old look, I request only one thing: Alexander Brandon's Jazz Jackrabbit 3 titile music! That song rocks.

EDIT: Woah, Noogy posted too!

Brian: Bwahaha, that rabbit CliffyB pic is hilarious.
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CliffyB? Noogy? In the same forum at the same short space of time since my last logon?

BRAIN OVERLOAD!! AAUUGGHHH!!! *dies*
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Anyways, I'll be serious for a bit. Sure I'd agree that after so many years a character would need a change, it seems logical, but did he have to get changed THAT much? I mean, he's shiny, not naked anymore, and lost his cool bandanna. That's not the biggest problem I have though, it's this strong aura of Star Wars all over the game!
I'm about as anti Star Wars as it gets,and even though that's just a matter of opinion, I would at least like Jazz to be like Jazz instead of Han Solo in a bunny suit...

P.S. Thanks to Noogy for 'making some noise'on his website
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Oh sure, a celebrity comes along and suddenly everybody goes crazy. :P *waves at Cliffy*

Glad to hear that even officials are still thinking about our fave bunny. And though most of the people disagree with Jazz' new looks, I can appreciate the effort and thought that went into this. Though I seriously recommend another artist for any future Jazz-related projects. *cough* *cough* *leaves his business card*

And what's with this: "I'd like to, but I haven't got a GBA." Here's a tip: buy the game anyway! It's a nice addon for your collection and you'll support the game that way!
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Already had the console - Lucky Me
A well jazz goes GBA still a great move. Arjan B. always wanted a Pocket Version of it.

Lemmy get Jeh and Arjan in zie forum!

This reminds me somehow of the old days with EpicMMB

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Wow...2 famous faces in the same thread...Now where is Arj? =P

Jazz on consoles...never would've imagined it. Personally, I will buy the game even though I don't have a GBA. Then I can borrow someone else's GBA and play it =)
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Somehow, I always imagined that Cliff would try to sneak a Jazz reference into UT2003. Like an intricately disguised, 3d version of Diamondus Battlefield (Like how Serpentine is a remix of an old Quake2 usermap). Ah, well. I'm an Unreal kid now.

Good to see that there's finally movement at the station Jazz-wise.

Oh, and... ahem... sorry, bout this, but...

Hi Cliff. Hi Dean.
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Look, I've neglected the Jazz community. Unreal has kept me so busy that I've ignored the real fans - the people that post on this board and still play Jazz2.

I apologize for this.

When Erik Kinkead came to us and wanted to do a new Jazz for GBA Jay Wilbur and I jumped at the chance. We've always loved Jazz and we felt that he was not marketed properly on the PC when Jazz 2 came out.

If we do a Jazz3d and all sorts of n00bs appear on Jazz fansites you're all entitled to give them crap for not knowing the greatness that is Jazz prior to a new game.

By the way, I realize that the update on Jazz's look upsets some of you. It sucks, but we wanted to refine his look a bit. Look at how Mario and Link have changed through the years...Still, I recognize that you guys aren't feeling it and if we do a Jazz 3 I assure you that the headband WILL return.

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Yeah, but when Mario and Link changed they didn't rip off Star Wars. Ppl will see Jazz as a Star Wars rip off. So what are the chances that will go well and lead to a Jazz3D? Regardless of marketing. How do you expect to market a rip off to ppl? I want to meet the marketing team that takes on that.
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Everyone think of it this way: If you like it: Buy it. If you don't: Shut up already, and buy it anyway so Epic is influenced to make a Jazz3 the way THEY want.
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*wants autographs*

Yay. Headband returns. *Dances around*

BTW, that isn't Bugs Bunny. Bugs bunny doesn't wear a gun and clothes.
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Yeah, rabbits usually have that kind of teeth :P

BTW, Jazz's pants should be wider. This looks like a swimming suit
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*agrees with the Star Wars ripoff*

I think most of the people here don't have GBA. Anyway I'd love to see Jazz 3D finished and I completely agree with the suggestion to use the latest Unreal Warfare Engine for the game. These days Epic is just full of Unreal this & Unreal that games (look at the game list on the website... http://www.epicgames.com) so I think it would be great to see another game not starting with "Unreal" even if it uses the Unreal engine.

I have also noticed that they have recently removed Jazz Jackrabbit 2 from the game list.

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Who sayed Deth to Jeh make it Deth to Mark Reign!
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I have a GCN and a GBA and I'll probably get a new JJ game the moment it hits the shelves. I've got plenty of GB titles (I've owned a GameBoy since the original model. I've had mine since 1989 I think.) but I'm kinda lacking on the GBA titles. JJ would be a perfect addition.

Hmm... what else? Mario still has his hat, that hasn't changed. :-)

(no comment about the bunny suit?)
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Brian my comment about the Cliffy Bunny



Only thing that mario has changed is he went 3D

but GBA JJ goes also in zie collectiono.. because of one simple reason MUST HAVE ALL JAZZ
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