Beta help

[sonicnathan 1]

Hi. I was just wondering weather beta version 1.10g is free to download since it's the oldest version or if I have to buy it. If it's free can somebody plz give me a link. Thanks!:r

[cooba]

There's no 1.10g. There's a 1.00g, and 1.10o.

And no, they're not free to download.

[n00b]

The only thing they cost to download is your moral obligations! Are willing to brutally hurt your conscience?

[sonicnathan 1]

Um. In English?

[n00b]

Que? No habla ingles, tu bibliotecha de muerte!! ;(

[Violet CLM]

What n00b said is that they're free to download, if you can find them, aside from the detail of it being totally illegal to do so. However! You might be able to find one on ebay, as I've seen 1.00h there a couple times.

[Dermo]

you can download 1.00g and 1.10h if you bought a copy of 1.21 i believe. It's kind of like a Sega emulator type thing. You can download the ROMs only if you own the respective cartridges, otherwise you have 48 hours to delete them off of your PC.

[Jerrythabest]

>O lol it's
1.00g 1.00h 1.10o

Sigh.

As for downloading and buying: all JJ2 versions are not legally available for download. 1.00g and 1.00h are sometimes offered on ebay though. 1.10o is extremely rare and you'll only get it if you find a person who has it and wants to send it (is still illegal afaik). 1.20-1.23 are available in *some* shops and possibly on ebay.

[n00b]

No you can only download 1.21 because you have the license, but that license only allows one install per computer. So if you lost the disc and never installed it, then it's ok but only if it's 1.21



<Have no clue what I'm talking about, please let it be right>

[sonicnathan 1]

Woops. I already downloaded it. Mainly I just wanted to see if I could get LEV files to open up in JCS by renaming the exstention. Didn't work. Is there no way to open LEV files? It's weird going to the end of Medivo and there's no boss. I'll probubly end up deleting it soon.
PS: I own 1.21

[Violet CLM]

you can download 1.00g and 1.10h if you bought a copy of 1.21 i believe. It's kind of like a Sega emulator type thing. You can download the ROMs only if you own the respective cartridges, otherwise you have 48 hours to delete them off of your PC.

Myths.

[Dermo]

Glad to hear it and Unknown you CAN download sega roms if you own the cartridges.

In Fact here's evidence:

DISCLAIMER:
You may only download these genesis ROMS if you own the respective official cartridges.You may only download these genesis ROMS if you own the respective official cartridges.
If you don't, you must delete them in 48 hours (or less).

EDIT: I can't give the website that i obtained that from out because of "Warez" but there you have it.

[n00b]

OMG IF IT'S ON THE ENTERNETS IT HAS TO BE TRUU!


It's a myth dude, you can't legally own roms with the exception for backup purposes, and even then you have to make the backups yourself.

And there is no 48 trial period, that is also bullspit.

[Dermo]

There is with the MP3's with that weird protection on them. You have like 30 days to preview them and then you need to pay for them. It's with the Microsoft Zune.

[Jerrythabest]

What does all this stuff has to do with JJ2 OEM versions?

And you CAN open .lev files with a program called MLLE (Multi Layer Level Editor) but no-one knows if there is still anyone who has it. At least, in the whole community no-one has MLLE.

[Torkell]

There is with the MP3's with that weird protection on them. You have like 30 days to preview them and then you need to pay for them. It's with the Microsoft Zune.
That's a different matter entirely. With the MP3's, you're explicitly given permission by the copyright holder to preview them for 30 days. It's a bit like old shareware programs.

With non-free ROMs of any kind, you've not been given that permission.

[sonicnathan 1]

I would be a great help if somebody could find a version of MLLE on the internet. (Unless it's iligal) If somebody knows a link to a site wear I can download it thanks!

[n00b]

MLLE was never publicly released. Good friggin' luck finding it

[sonicnathan 1]

haha. IT would be so cool if somebody could get a copy. Epic Games probubly has the only copy of it but those guys are so you might as well be talking to Gorge Bush. Lol

[ThunderPX]

haha. IT would be so cool if somebody could get a copy. Epic Games probubly has the only copy of it but those guys are so you might as well be talking to Gorge Bush. Lol

...no.

[sonicnathan 1]

The point is they would never give it to use. (Even if we payed them 10000 dallors)

[cooba]

The point is they would never give it to use. (Even if we payed them 10000 dallors)Seeing as it probably doesn't exist anymore, you're right

[sonicnathan 1]

It may still exist. Only a handful of people may have it. The only people to probubly have the thing are the original Jazz Jackrabbit 2 designers and programmers.

[Jerrythabest]

I saw a screenshot once.. does anyone still have a screenshot somewhere? <strike>I wanna put it on my desktop so that I can cry to it when I'm sad</strike>

[ThunderPX]

The point is they would never give it to use. (Even if we payed them 10000 dallors)

http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14563
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14563
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14563
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14563

[sonicnathan 1]

http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14563
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14563
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14563
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=14563

Ok that's really not helping anything. Also what hapened? A while ago somebody said they may be able to get the source code (Hay. It's my tread I can talk about whatever I like on it!) Now I can't find the thread.

[ThunderPX]

Ok that's really not helping anything. Also what hapened? A while ago somebody said they may be able to get the source code (Hay. It's my tread I can talk about whatever I like on it!) Now I can't find the thread.

What I'm trying to say is, STOP assuming Epic are greedy (-)s who don't want to give out anything.

[Birdie]

Just take a few seconds looking at your friend, the ERE! (http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/upload/200507/1120758329_con_earlyjcs1.png)

[sonicnathan 1]

I know.

[sonicnathan 1]

Just take a few seconds looking at your friend, the ERE! (http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/upload/200507/1120758329_con_earlyjcs1.png)
homana homana homana

:eek: :eek:

Man now I really wish we had that editor

[Jerrythabest]

Just take a few seconds looking at your friend, the ERE! (http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/upload/200507/1120758329_con_earlyjcs1.png)

Yeh, that was the one ;p thx

[sonicnathan 1]

I'm not saying to do it but has anybody ever ask epic if they had a copy of the MLLE?

[ThunderPX]

homana homana homana

:eek: :eek:

Man now I really wish we had that editor

I'm genuinely curious- why because of that screenshot? It just looks like an inferior JCS.

[Birdie]

It IS an inferior JCS.

[n00b]

I don't even know why you would want it aside from editing .levs, the JCS' final interface is so much easier to use than MLLE looks to be.

[sonicnathan 1]

Ya but I want to see if there's any special events (like tweedle working) in the beta version.

[n00b]

If Tweedle worked in a Beta, why would he not work in the final version?
The reason why Bolly doesn't work in Beta versions is because they did not program him yet due to more time spent on multiplayer coding.

[sonicnathan 1]

Good point. I think that tweedle was never meant to be in the game because in 1.00g all of tweedles animations but hes not in the game.

[Dermo]

that caught my attentioN!
I WANT IT! GIMME IT NOW!

[sonicnathan 1]

that caught my attentioN!
I WANT IT! GIMME IT NOW!

Coo Coo! Coo Coo!
:rolleyes:

Only joking. I want it to. Mabey enemies liek the butterfly are in the beta versions but they are fully scripted, but they may still work.
If you want to ask epic for it be my guest.

[Violet CLM]

:rolleyes:
Okay, settle down. I tried months ago all those events you're talking about in 1.00g... they don't work. No Butterfly, no Tweedle, just Springcord.

[Jerrythabest]

How can you try those if you don't have MLLE? And then, what does Springcord do?

[Jerrythabest]

You mean they actually deleted my hero?! That's (-) stupid ;"(

[sonicnathan 1]

There's a program called Hex editor that's hard to use. If used properly were able to put lots of different things in levels. And spingcord doesn't work for all of you that doesn't know. But it's cool to see. It turns out it was eather a bungy cord of one of those things that grab you like in Sonic and knuckles Mushroom hill zone. sigh. I really wish we had the source code right now.

[Birdie]

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[FreeFull]

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Whats the point of posting a html comment in this thread?

[Violet CLM]

How can you try those if you don't have MLLE? And then, what does Springcord do?
<a href="http://jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=16405">It uses the search tool.</a>

[sonicnathan 1]

If the springcord (somewhat) works in 1.00g I wounder what else works?

[ThunderPX]

If the springcord (somewhat) works in 1.00g I wounder what else works?

:rolleyes:
Okay, settle down. I tried months ago all those events you're talking about in 1.00g... they don't work. No Butterfly, no Tweedle, just Springcord.

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[Jerrythabest]

I hope he forgot to touch an Activate Boss event when testing Tweedle, as that would be my only hope it's possible to play against Tweedle ;p

[sonicnathan 1]

I hope he forgot to touch an Activate Boss event when testing Tweedle, as that would be my only hope it's possible to play against Tweedle ;p

Um in beta there is no activate boss. The bosses activate when you get such and such far in a level.

[n00b]

Couldn't we just ask the programmers if tweedle was programmed or not?

[sonicnathan 1]

Be my guest. I really don;'t want to do it. And while you at it ask why tweedle was cut from the final game and ask if there's a working copy of the MLLE. Also ask if there's anything else that's half programed.

[Jerrythabest]

Um in beta there is no activate boss. The bosses activate when you get such and such far in a level.

Oh yeah. :p

[sonicnathan 1]

Again off the topic. (Very) But how do you take screenshots in Jazz 1?

[Violet CLM]

<a href="http://jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=11746#scr1">FAQ!</a>

[sonicnathan 1]

ok............ Thanks. Now if I only new how to make tilesets......

[Jerrythabest]

Why don't you make a new topic to ask all your questions in? That'd really keep the board clear ;p

[Violet CLM]

<a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/articles/view.php?articleID=5">Tileset basics</a>

[sonicnathan 1]

Why don't you make a new topic to ask all your questions in? That'd really keep the board clear ;p

Mabey I will. Or won't!}>

[Dermo]

I like the way that all of Unknown Rabbit's replies contain links and no actual help. It shows how helpful the search button is.

[Radium]

I like the way that all of Unknown Rabbit's replies contain links and no actual help. It shows how helpful the search button is.

Pretty much everything has already been said or explained at one point, and UR evidently knows where it all is. So, it's only logical that he never needs to say anything.

[n00b]

I like the way that all of Unknown Rabbit's replies contain links and no actual help. It shows how helpful the search button is.

I like the way how an index in the back of a book contains no information. It's so unhelpful! Ugh having to actually click a link(in the case you mentioned)/flip to a certain page(in my example) where the information is in it's full unedited quality instead of some regurgitated dump?

The point of this post is, I'm not getting what you're being sarcastic about. It's like saying "Oh yes, this ice cream is sooo good" in a sarcastic tone when it's the best (-) ice cream you've ever tasted. Just doesn't work, y'see.

Also in pre-counter in case you pull a "It's not really sarcasm, jk u guyz! jk!!" (or "Chiste! Chiste" for those who habla espanol): I'm dreadfully sorry man. The end.

[Violet CLM]

To be fair, I'm not really trying to be an index, so much as to suggest that other people can use the index <i>themselves</i>. Obviously I don't have the links to every single thread or article memorized, but I CAN use search tools and Ctrl+F, and I'm trying to suggest that other people could do this too if they chose to. Other forums I visit are a LOT less permissive of duplicate topics/questions, and it's not really a bad habit to pick up.

[Jerrythabest]

Let's just change your rank to 'Community Human Searchbot' or so ;p and then make a thread "Ask it Unknown Rabbit!" where people can ask you to find something ;p

[Jerrythabest]

Asking this kinda things is like "illegal"... if you want a game, you should *buy* it! :) it's really cheap anyway.

[Dermo]

uh jerry i just said that. There's no need to repeat something I just said.

[Jerrythabest]

Your post looks like TSF is illegal ;)

But oh well, I were just repeating it because he asked to send TSF again...



IMHO this thread doesn't really need to stay open... the Beta versions are explained and now it's turning into a "get me this version!"-thread. The discussion about removed/unfinished events can continue on the Springcord thread. So just put a lock on this ;)

[Smith]

Bla bla bla bla bla
miser

[FreeFull]

Bla bla bla bla bla
miser

What does that what you just said has to do with the thread? How do you contribute? By pretending you aren't breaking the law when you download non-shareware version of jj2?

[Dermo]

He's a noob who just joined this forum. That's what.

[Smith]

I already download free.

[Jerrythabest]

if you want a game, you should *buy* it! :) it's really cheap anyway.miserI already download free.Very weird combination, Smith ;p.

[FreeFull]

Smith, you know downloading it is illegal, right?

[Jerrythabest]

I'm pretty sure he does... nearly everyone downloading stuff knows that.

[Smith]

Well, I found records sit all series Jazz free sobsno ebuild all on my site is free and you said that nenaydu :-) Sory google translate:-)

[Soulweaver]

Sory google translate
I doubt Google Translate has problems with "sorry". If it did, it'd be reported more than fast.

[Jerrythabest]

he just made extremely much typos in his own language

[Dermo]

lol im sure you know somebody who can help you translate. I've never had a problem with Google when I need a website translated except for some minor, but easily understood words with similar meanings to the words it was referring to.