Simplifying this to members versus administrators is not an appropriate measure. In fact, it is very low and I do not think it should be tolerated. After all, you far overestimate the amount of members who believe that PATPAY should remain. Many agree that it should be closed, even deleted. Turning this into administrators versus members is completely ridiculous. No one is at war here.

VelK's UT2K3 analogy was, well, a bit flawed, but still a good example. No one did make seven topics at once, but there were about three all asking what came of PATPAY. No one apparently bothered to check if there was already a topic such as this.

PATPAY was just a game. There are many other threads. As opposed to pointing out small deficiencies in analogies in these posts, please concentrate on the "big picture" if you will. We will get no where if we continue to argue these proverbial specks of dust regarding proper treatment of analogies, opinions, and some contradictions that may or may not occur when people are posting a lot and not necessarily concentrating on making sure everything matches. Those are small things, and do not merit discussion.