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The whole Dethman thing was played out and explained long ago in a Misc. topic. I'm suprised people still are blaming him.
And while I agree with Onag to a certain extent I still like J2O much much more than J2C. And despite the 'you can't compare them' stuff, it's more of a matter of opinion.
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