Of course I remember the JMMB. I joined there within weeks of its creation, and stayed until J2C's fall. After Jazz2City closed my interest waned; I popped in every month or so, until one day, it was simply... gone.

I wasn't there for the closing announcement, but I can assure you, blaming Dethman, Brian, or the administration in general is ludicrous. The JMMB's days were numbered after the the closure of J2C, which also was not Dethman's fault - Wakeman no longer had time to deal with the site, and the replacements, Bluez and some others I don't remember, also could not deal with the site sufficiently. Dethman was, at that point, AWOL, and had been for some time, though he had done brilliant work before and immediately after the JMMB's founding, a true pioneer into the workings of the JCS when much of it remained undiscovered and obscured - he was the first to incorporate MCEs into his pack Queen of Board, for example. (Which I, IIRC, was the first to hack to describe MCEs, in those days much more complicated, with 8 events instead of 3, to the general public. IceMANN then laboriously created his list of all MCEs, discovering some additional neat tricks along the way.) But by the time J2C shut down, Dethman had left the community, and Brian was head administrator of the JMMB anyways. Of the people who have posted in this thread, I can say I remember only two, Brian and Onag; I'm not sure when the remainder joined, but in my stay, at least, things were relatively peaceful - there was only one banning, with scattered "incidents" involving Alienator and Bluez. If the community later degenerated into uncontrolled flamage, I can guarantee you it was entirely the fault of the active members, and not of Dethman, who was busy with real life most of the time anyhow, and certainly didn't sit around scrutinizing the boards, waiting for a chance to shut you down for violating "christian principles." Brian also had no incentive to shut down the board he owned, unless he truly felt that the JMMB had become something worthless.