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Originally Posted by Hare
Nah, if you posted a half naked human, you'd get the same response. Furry art is subtly evil.
You see, now that I've got some attention, I can make big bucks off of selling smutt. Its like selling crack to preschoolers.
You see, a person can draw a naked fur, then tell everyone that it is ok because fur covers everything. But people will still be attracted by the human form in a naked state. Lets look at it this way... Say a woman walks by with nothing on but some peices of cloth that cover only her... "3 areas". Now one would look at this woman and say, "That isn't decent", however there is some fur fans I know who think that this type of clothing is all that is needed for decency for a furry character. So furry characters can get away with dressing a lot more in-appropriately without being caught.
Now lets take a look at Toca there, the one I drew for Faw. This type of clothing would horrify a parent if their child wore it, correct? And many times fur characters wear this kind of clothing, obviously designed to potray the body as a sex object. So furry characters are often potrayed as sex objects without our notice in many cases.
Okay, that is one hypothesis.
Second hypothesis: Furry characters are like humans... but cuddly, and often drawn without what a human would consider flaws in their features.
Okay, number one: Potrayal as a sex object
number two: lack of flaws in their appearance, cuddly, and most often potrayed as innocent.
If you don't believe me about them being potrayed as a sex object, just look at Bonnie. As an example I present the scene where she is on her motorcycle and looking over her shoulder. You see under her skirt thing and get a good look at her butt. It is a panty shot, but at the same time Bonnie is so innocent. That is the subtle part. Often characters are potrayed as innocent, and that brings your guard down for the hidden sexual messages of the image.
I'm through with it. I've drawn my female characters with subtle sexual messages for some time, and it is over. And it isn't like I wasn't aware of it. Whenever I drew them, I would always draw the clothing and the form of the body to make it look sexy to some degree, then make the character look innocent. It is a trap underneath it's innocent exterior. We guard ourselves against smut, but this kind of stuff brings down that guard.
I've had it. My art is going to be decent from now on. I'll still be drawing Toca and everyone, but I'm making a change in the presentation.
Oh, and I was joking about selling crack to kids and selling smut... but someone is going to put that quote in their signature anyways... aren't they?
sorry about that little essay.
Cases may vary from artist to artist, or viewer to viewer. So I can't speak for anyone really but myself. I know that I am attracted to bare bellies, and different features, and I often add those to my images. Personally, I'm going to stop drawing from lust. Often other people's art that displays this or that "turns me on"... but I cannot speak for what is going on in that artist.
I'm sorry for assuming Dean knowingly makes his images sexy... Well, it'll be kind of hard to convince me that the butt shot isn't a butt shot, though.
I'm a bit confused about some of this stuff. I'm going to go and talk to someone I can confide in.
I kinda turned this into a theological discussion. (If it isn't now, no doubt it will be when people start replying). I'm sure everyone will be a lot happier when I'm no longer a mental case and going into depressions and posting long posts about my thinking. I know I will be.
Sorry Faw for getting you into all this stuff too.
My book I have on depression talks about a depressoin type, and one of the things in this depression type is that the person is "subtly sexy" or something... It could be that this is potrayed through my art... It also talks about that type of person wanting to be the center of atte.... Shoot... Durnit! ....I'm just going to go and keep reading that book until my aunt comes home so I can have someone to talk about all this with. I'm fitting into the mold of this depression stuff written in that book very well... a little too well... I'll talk some other time.
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