agreed. at least jj2 levels are small so if I join a server i can download it quickly. That's what i've liked about epic's online games. you download levels quickly. on UT, i can download one just as fast on the game as off a regular website. Of course with Quake 3, heh, i've never seen it download faster then 16 kb a sec. and mine can do 380 kb a sec. It only lets me download at ISDN X2 speed.