Sorry about that. I hope I didn't offend you. I was actually talking about my own Jazz fangame I was making back a few years ago (but ditched shortly).

You are right though, it still takes lots of skill. I tend to think of quality in terms of what would be good enough to sell. That'd be kind of overkill for a fan game. I saw your Razz Arena site and I think you guys are doing a great job.

I'll contact you through PM, so this thread can get back to topic.