I went to J2C and JMMB when I got the JJ2 shareware demo. It was scary. Erm... anyway, I went back there for a little while when I finally got the full version. I think I spent a couple of minutes browsing through the forum but then I found J2o. J2o didn't have as much lvls or stuff in general to compete with J2C at that time but it was much more organized and well-structured. I'm not at all surprised that J2C went down and J2o survives to this day. Besides, I can J2o and the JCF is way better than JMMB althouh I do feel sad that I missed all the fun at J2C.