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Jan 7, 2005, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackSheep
I don't have Holiday Hare, but all of the places that google up don't really work out. I want to play. It makes me sad. I have gone through three boxes of tissues in an hour.

Does anyone know where I can get a copy?
Also, I don't have JJ2 on my laptop here at school and I don't have the CD anymore, and its not on ebay, will anyone let me borrow\buy\burn a copy of thiers?

I bought Jazz 2 7 years ago and enjoy it still today. As for Jazz 1 I'll buy an old laptop and I'm sure it will run there.

An excerpt from their faq:

Despite the illegal status of abandonware, we believe that we are offering a valuable service to the gaming community: classic game collectors have a chance to retrieve games that have otherwise been lost or rendered defective with the passage of time. As our Disclaimer printed on every page makes clear, we will gladly remove download links to any game that is either 1) still being sold by the publisher, or 2) at the request of the publishers themselves. Encouraging publishers to continue publishing great classics of yore has always been this site's foremost goals, and we will gladly link to the publisher's order or download site without hesitation should they make their products available again, whether commercially or as freeware.

That said, we are continually seeking permission from copyright holders to distribute their games on this site. If you are a copyright holder and would like to grant us permission (or request that your games be taken off-line, as the case may be), please contact us. If you want to voice support for abandonware, check out the following petition sites:
The AbandonWare Petition
the International Campaign of Abandonware Supporters (ICAS)

Aren't you impairing profitability of the games' publishers and retailers by uploading them?

We are not impairing game publishers' profitability, as they have already realized profits from sales to the retailers (similar to the book industry). Admittedly, we are perhaps impairing the profits of retailers who still carry abandonware titles (insofar as anyone who wishes to buy them is content with downloading the file from HOTU). However, while we recognize and applaud the efforts of such retailers, we believe it is impractical to link to sites that sell only a handful of copies, which will sooner or later be irrevocably out of stock since the publishers no longer intends to print more copies. For example, announcing that game X can be bought by calling up a small shop in Belgium is hardly the most effective way to achieve our goal, which is to preserve underrated games for posterity. On the other hand, astute visitors will note that we do link to large on-line retailers that still sell abandonware titles (e.g. Chips & Bits and CD-ROM Access) because they have sufficiently large amounts of copies that demand could be sustained for a while.

As zealous game collectors ourselves, we also believe that it is always best to own the games in their original packaging, not only because it is the only form of legal ownership (and the "bragging rights" that come with owning one of the few remaining copies of out-of-print titles), but also because of the fun "freebies" that add tremendous value to the games and enhance the playing experience. Infocom games, for example, were vastly popular not only because they were excellent, but also because of the creative "freebies" Infocom would include in the box. We believe that very few gaming enthusiasts could resist the temptation to track down the original boxes, had they seen the 3-D comics (complete with 3-D glasses) that came with Leather Goddeses of Phobos, or the unique scratch-n-sniff card (with smells ranging from pizza to supposedly "alien" odor) in the Leather Goddesses of Phobos box that the player would be asked to scratch for appropriate smells at different points in the game. It isn't surprising that Infocom games always sell for a high price in on-line auctions.

Nothing pleases us more (other than finding games on our Want List) than hearing from visitors who found original copies of games they had never heard of through our site. Our Links page contains many links to auction sites, game exchanges, and large on-line vendors of both new and old games. In the future, we plan to add many freebie information to our Special Collections page (e.g. snapshots of "Best Freebie Comics" and "Best Freebie Figurines") to help increase the demand for games in original packaging as more gamers realize how much they are missing out.

Derby: Content removal. You cannot suggest illegally acquiring content to others in any way.

Last edited by Derby; Jan 7, 2005 at 12:18 PM.