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Grytolle

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Jan 21, 2007, 07:52 AM
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Lightbulb Tonight 8D became the second clan ever to beat CC!

Yes, indeed. This night we finished one of the hardest-to-arrange clanwars ever! Some month ago Yasco and I tried arranging it, and we ended up playing the night immediatly after. We agreed on some kind of three-round CTF clanwar on semi, distopia and jungle's edge. Somehow 8D managed to win 5-1 on semi that time - and you might think that was the end of it, but no.

Before we move onto why that wasn't the end of it, let me expose you to my personal comments on the semi-round: First of all, we tried to have to have Saphir host the round, but that was so laggy that we moved to Jerry's (?) server, where we played it. As I remember it the game was very even, but 8D had better timing/luck with both lag and scoring, which made them quickly get a 3-0 or 4-0 lead, then we managed to get back at them, and I could really feel that we would win in the end after the 4-1 score I managed to make. However, there was a nice 3hk and the game was over. Eventhough I think we should have managed to get a few more scores, or even win, I do think 8D no doubt deserved to win this round.

The important lesson to learn from this clanwar is that Grytolle and Yasco (suck) when it comes to arranging clanwars. Apparently noone really knew how the game was to be played. 8D thought the semi round was a round like any other, while CC thought it was a "just in case round" (meaning it would count only if the other rounds resulted in a tie), chatlogs from Grytolle's and Yasco's negotiations couldn't really prove anyone right - and thus the clanwar was put to rest for a while, with (no matter how one looked at the situation) two rounds remaining to play.

So, tonight the time came to play the remaining two rounds. There was problems getting a host, and somehow Squirrel was elected to host round 1 for the day (Jungle's Edge). I won't say much about this, but it was a lagfest for Chiyu, Vegito and Sucer, and it ended 5-1 for 8D (my teammates was too lagged to ever be able to kill when I was ready to score). To our great surprise 8D showed proof of great chivalry by offering to play the round over again on a new host. (I can not enough express my admiration for Sucer, Superjazz and Yasco on this matter.) We tried R3p's server but as we didn't want the same thing to happen again (or even worse 8D losing by lag after such a wonderful act), we decided that the server wasn't good enough after we tested it by playing friendly for three minutes or so. We then tried Sasik's server, and everyone agreed that it was good enough.

We got, ready, started, everything went as it should and CC quickly had 3-0. I had the feeling we were in total control of the game the entire time, and we were close to getting 4-0 serveral times. The game never really turned to 8D's favour but somehow they managed to squeeze in a weird score every now and then without CC really knowing how it went. So, before we knew it the score was 3-3, then finally we managed to score our 4th score and I could feel that victory was near. But not! 8D nicely scored 4-4, and then they got a score that all player admitted was "lol timing/luck", but the game was over. GG 8D had won that round with 5-4.

Next up was Distopia, where Sasik kept hosting. CC ran 8D over 5-0 in no time, to keep a short story short. Afterwards I blurted out: "|THIS CLANWAR WAS THE BEST LOSS OF MY LIFE!".

Counting controversy
There was never really an agreement made on how to count, however 5 players (Vegito, Grytolle, and the 8Ders) agree that this is the right way to summarize the score:
Round I (Jungle's Edge) - CC [4:5] 8D, making the total score 0-1
Round II (Distopia) - CC [5:0] 8D, making the total score 1-1
Tiebreaker (Semi) - CC [1:5] 8D, making the final score totale 1-2

Chiyu, however didn't want to make any compromise on how to count the total score, but sticked with what he thought from the beginning:
Round I (Jungle's Edge) - CC [4:5] 8D
Round II (Distopia) - CC [5:0] 8D, making the total score 9-5
Tiebreaker (Semi) - Not used for counting

As you might be able to see, the total score could also be counted as 10-10, making the game a tie!

In any case, I (and most with me) think it should be counted as a win for 8D, however those aspects should be taken into consideration so you get a fair idea of how close of a clanwar this was (Last encounter 8D lost bigtime, so know that they've indeed improved ).

Lineups
Semi - Sucer, Vivando and Yasco vs. Chiyu, Grytolle and Vegito
Jungle's Edge - Sucer, Vivando and Yasco vs. Chiyu, Grytolle and Vegito
Distopia - Sucer, Vivando and Squirrel vs. Chiyu, Grytolle and Vegito

Lastly
It sucks badly that I don't have any screenshots to show you from the clanwar - but if anyone playing finds any, share them here!

That said remains only to congratulate 8D on a good win, and CC on a good loss (yes, this proves that such a thing does exist)! Personally, I wan't a rematch as soon as possible, but I don't think both my current teammates are up for the task, so it might take a while to have something to challenge 8D with.

Thanks for some of the greatest jj2 games of my life, friends! <3<3<3

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