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FQuist

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Jun 15, 2007, 11:45 AM
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I will hear any complaints posted, but I can only deal with specific ones. I can't react to inspecific accusations like "I believe he takes censorship too far, and does not consider facts and background information before making such moves" without examples. The same counts for broad claims such as "Many site members have stopped posting reviews altogether on account of the excessive rating removals by Cooba". They come without backing up and thus are very hard to validate, especially for anyone not paying attention to the downloads section (ie. I and most of J2O's staff )

There's the broader view of "there's too much censorship" which as a general feeling might be correct. However, it cannot be fixed - if true at all - without specific examples to start off from. I can't set any possible wrongdoings straight without having a starting point. Do also take in mind that much of the downloads' section moderation is based on these rules which are not made by any individual administrator (but for which interpretation by individuals may vary). It is very much possible that problems with site review moderation arise from the rules, not their enforcement.

I would further note that there's been some recent complaints about moderation in the pictures section (and your post may be related to it), specifically regarding some comments comparing cultural habits on a picture of Freelance's and naming a clothing brand on a picture of Tubz's.

I have discussed this in detail with some of the people involved as well as Cooba, and it has been dealt with and will hopefully not happen again. I think there's been some overreaction on both sides of that issue. It's impossible to not make some mistakes in moderation. Mistaking a clothing brand's name for an insult (especially coming from someone who makes offensive statements more often) is not hard to do - I would have done it myself in that situation (so would probably anyone who doesn't know the clothing brand). I would barely think of clothing when reading what seems like a random remark without knowing it. You can't do extensive background checks on everything you edit (we're not the FBI here), and thus things like that happen. That's ok. It should be possible to just calmly bring such a mistake to an admin's attention (that happened, but barely calmly or rationally), and the admin should be able to calmly and correctly deal with that (mistakes have been made in that. they will hopefully not happen again). If this thread is just a response to those recent events, I would say that's quite the overreaction and unwarranted. If it's not, please provide other instances of when things occurred.

It seems Cooba posted a reply with some good remarks about your post, it is unfortunate these got lost. They might bear repeating but it's up to Cooba.

Thank you for caring about keeping the site administration straight and proper. I think it's good to have such conversations in the open and not behind closed doors like usual. It's an issue that was brought up several times the past few days so I guess it's good to deal with it in a central place.

~ Frank
(Head admin, I guess)
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Last edited by FQuist; Jun 15, 2007 at 11:54 AM. Reason: some clarifications/additions regarding Ninja and the clothing brand stuff